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Re: download email from gmail regularly

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Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> writes:

> Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> writes:
> 
>> It seems Gmail is decomissioning username-password authentication.
>> Clients will have to use "Sign in with Google".  What happens to all
>> download-email programs?  I'm looking for one, in fact.  If I want to
>> pull my mail via POP or IMAP today, what would I have to use?
>>
>> I'd like to read my mail with Gnus (using djb's Maildir storage).  I
>> can't stand Gmail any longer.  I'm done.
>>
>> (*) Other questions
>>
>> This ``Sign In with Google'' means the downloader would always have to
>> ask me for passwords?  I could never just pull gmail without being asked
>> for credentials?  (Very annoying.)
> 
> Here's another option I might have.  I could just forward my Gmail
> e-mail to another mailbox and then pull my email from this other
> mailbox.  But this other mailbox would have to allow me some easy
> authentication and also let me SMTP-send mail from it.

How do you access the net?  Whatever company is providing your IP
address or handing you one each time you connect should have an SMTP
server on their system.  Such a server shoud recognize your IP address
as "one of ours" and allow you to connect and send mail.

I do my mail through a surviving mom 'n pop ISP but I connect through a
major telecom company. If the local ISP is down (it suffers from the
same power outages I do) I can swap in a different set of config
files, restart sendmail, and send via the corporate SMTP server.  My
local ISP requires me to use TLS and AUTH on port 587 as I appear to
it to be "foreign" but the corporate server apparently sees me as "one
of ours" and accepts SMTP on port 25 as usual. (This doesn't help with
receiving mail when the local ISP is down, of course.)

FWIW, I've never used Gmail because I dread the kind of thing you're
encountering -- hacking a corporate interface -- far more than I do
the task of hacking sendmail (which is, as they say, marginally above
my pay grade. :-)

> I don't have an SMTP server myself.  To do that with, say, Proton Mail,
> I'd have to buy an account because there seems to be no IMAP access to
> it without a paid account.
> 
> If I were to host my own mail, I suppose I should use it to just get
> mail from Gmail and not use it to send mail out to the world because I
> can't devote my life to SMTP deliveries right now.  So I'd need a way to
> SMTP-send mail out through Gmail somehow.  (I wonder if that's possible
> still.)

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 00:51 -0300
  Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 00:55 -0300
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-01-27 02:23 -0400
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-01-27 17:00 +1000
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-27 14:38 +0000
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> - 2024-01-27 15:43 +0100
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 11:59 -0300
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2024-01-27 10:36 -0800
        Re: download email from gmail regularly not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-01-28 07:23 +1000
  Re: download email from gmail regularly Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-27 14:29 +0000
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Eric Gillespie <epg@pretzelnet.org> - 2024-02-01 19:00 -0600
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