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Re: download email from gmail regularly

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In comp.misc Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
> Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> writes:
>> Here's another option I might have.  I could just forward my Gmail
>> e-mail to another mailbox and then pull my email from this other
>> mailbox.  But this other mailbox would have to allow me some easy
>> authentication and also let me SMTP-send mail from it.
> 
> How do you access the net?  Whatever company is providing your IP
> address or handing you one each time you connect should have an SMTP
> server on their system.  Such a server shoud recognize your IP address
> as "one of ours" and allow you to connect and send mail.
> 
> I do my mail through a surviving mom 'n pop ISP but I connect through a
> major telecom company. If the local ISP is down (it suffers from the
> same power outages I do) I can swap in a different set of config
> files, restart sendmail, and send via the corporate SMTP server.  My
> local ISP requires me to use TLS and AUTH on port 587 as I appear to
> it to be "foreign" but the corporate server apparently sees me as "one
> of ours" and accepts SMTP on port 25 as usual. (This doesn't help with
> receiving mail when the local ISP is down, of course.)

Yes I use my ISP's SMTP server similarly. One issue might be if
Google has their SPF record set to indicate that their servers are
the only valid source of mail from Gmail accounts. Then mail sent
from other SMTP servers is more likely to be marked as spam by
people who use spam filtering. However if you have your email
address at your own domain (not @gmail.com etc.), but hosted by
GMail, this isn't a problem as you can change your SPF record or
not use one at all (though the latter is claimed to often cause
email to be marked as spam too).

> FWIW, I've never used Gmail because I dread the kind of thing you're
> encountering -- hacking a corporate interface -- far more than I do
> the task of hacking sendmail (which is, as they say, marginally above
> my pay grade. :-)

Indeed I opt for Sendmailing over GMailing as well. Unfortunately
Google still forces me to tinker with Sendmail configs to try and
placate their evil spam filtering which nevertheless seems to
insist that anyone running their own email server must be sending
spam.

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download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 00:51 -0300
  Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 00:55 -0300
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-01-27 02:23 -0400
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-01-27 17:00 +1000
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-27 14:38 +0000
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> - 2024-01-27 15:43 +0100
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 11:59 -0300
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        Re: download email from gmail regularly not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-01-28 07:23 +1000
  Re: download email from gmail regularly Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-27 14:29 +0000
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