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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Thoughts on this European Physical Journal paper or at least the abstract? 2 |
| Date | 2026-04-29 19:49 -0700 |
| Organization | The Starmaker Organization |
| Message-ID | <69F2C350.66F@ix.netcom.com> (permalink) |
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > Stefan Ram wrote: > > amirjf <amirjfnin@aim.com> wrote or quoted: > >> factor. According to the local-ether model, the speed is referred > > > > Many physicists and critics pretty much see Ching-Chuan > > Su's local-ether model as a solution in search of a problem. > > While it tries to offer a classical, common-sense take on > > electrodynamics, it runs into some serious headwinds when > > held up against Special and General Relativity. > > > > SR accounts for the Michelson-Morley wash through two simple > > postulates: physical laws are invariant and light speed is > > a constant. Critics argue that tacking on a physical "ether" > > that gets dragged along is just an ad hoc move that muddies > > the waters without actually boosting predictive power. > > > > Su's model falls back on Galilean relativity. Critics point > > out that Maxwell's equations are naturally Lorentz-invariant; > > trying to shoehorn them into a Galilean frame usually means > > having to doctor them with extra terms that don't have any > > independent experimental legs to stand on. > > > > A classic knock against "dragged" ether models is stellar > > aberration. If the ether were totally dragged by the > > Earth's surface, as Su claims for local tests, critics > > argue we wouldn't see this shift at all. > > > > GR reads gravity as spacetime curvature where the metric is > > a dynamical field. Su's model treats the ether as a physical > > medium that thickens with gravitational potential. Critics > > argue GR's geometric path is way better at calling the shots > > on big-picture stuff like black holes. > > > > Mainstream physics hinges on the Einstein Equivalence > > Principle (EEP), which says the laws of physics are the > > same in any local free-fall frame. Su's model brings in a > > specific reference frame, which critics say flies in the face > > of a symmetry that's been tested to the nth degree. > > > > Some modern folks suggest GR is basically an ether theory where > > "spacetime" is the medium. But they argue Su's version is a > > dead end because it doesn't lead to the heavy-duty math that > > defines GR's biggest wins. > > > > Su chalked up a tiny signal in the 1979 Brillet-Hall test to > > ether-wind. Critics stick to the story that these signals are > > just thermal noise or gear instability, since they don't track > > with seasonal cycles the way a real ether-wind would. > > > > Su claimed his model nailed the Sagnac effect in GPS better, but > > mainstreamers point out the standard correction used in GPS fits > > SR like a glove when you run the numbers in a non-rotating frame. > Reads like written by an LLM. An Ai-generated rewrite. > > -- > PointedEars > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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Thoughts on this European Physical Journal paper or at least the abstract? 2 amirjf <amirjfnin@aim.com> - 2026-04-27 18:05 -0400
Re: Thoughts on this European Physical Journal paper or at least the abstract? 2 ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-04-29 20:14 +0000
Re: Thoughts on this European Physical Journal paper or at least the abstract? 2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-04-30 03:36 +0200
Re: Thoughts on this European Physical Journal paper or at least the abstract? 2 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-29 19:49 -0700
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