Re: Citadel? Courier? Cyrus? Dovecot? - I just want to backup my emails

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From	not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Subject	Re: Citadel? Courier? Cyrus? Dovecot? - I just want to backup my emails
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Date	2026-01-20 07:41 +1000
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Markus Robert Kessler <no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:
> On 19 Jan 2026 07:23:39 +1000 Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> Markus Robert Kessler <no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:
>>> [1040 root@mga9x64-lb1 /tmp]# rpm -i gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64.rpm
>>> error: Failed dependencies:
>>>         devel(libgnutls(64bit)) is needed by
>>>         gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64 devel(libgsasl(64bit)) is needed by
>>>         gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64 devel(libltdl(64bit)) is needed by
>>>         gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64 libgsasl.so.7()(64bit) is needed by
>>>         gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64 libgsasl.so.7(LIBGSASL_1.1)(64bit)
>>>         is needed by gnu-
>>> mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64
>> 
>> x86_64? This is in the Raspberry Pi Group. Did you pick the wrong
>> newsgroup to discuss this or are you trying to complile on a PC but run
>> Mailutils on a RPi? That's possible, but difficult, and for this you'd
>> be much better compiling Mailutils on the RPi instead.
>> 
>>> This is strange because './configure' said
>> 
>> The configure script worked if you got the mailutils binaries built,
>> which it sounds like you did (otherwise DESTDIR will be empty). I've
>> never used "alien" and don't know how it goes about making packages, but
>> it looks like something must be going wrong there. If you're trying to
>> install to RPi (ARM) a package built for x86_64, then that's definitely
>> what's going wrong.
> 
> Hello, thanks! And, no, I did not click onto the wrong group.
> Instead, the desperate situation is like that:
> 
> On latest raspbian, debian for ARM, there is only an ancient version 3.10. 
> Good to play with, but that's all.
> 
> On debian for intel, there is version 3.20 - but it is not complete. 
> imap4d and pop3d are missing and other stuff. Just left away.
> 
> On Redhat / Mageia for intel, which I am also running, there is even no 
> such package like GNU mailutils at all.

Just note that nothing you do "on intel" will just work on ARM. If
you want Mailutils on both ARM and "intel", you need to build it
twice. If you just want it on one ARM system, then repeat
everything on the ARM system and just do "sudo make install"
without the DESTDIR and package stuff which only matters if you
want to install easily to other RPis (and even then I'd personally
just make a tarball and unpack that to "/" after installing the
dependencies manually, rather than making an RPM package).

> Besides this:
> 
> Looking at the 'Failed dependencies' message above, this looks as if the 
> devel packages have to be linked statically, otherwise movemail and others 
> cannot access them and are asking for them again.

Static linking should avoid any dependency problem when it's built
on ARM. Building on x86_64 "intel", nothing will work on ARM unless
you install and use a cross-compiling environment. But don't do
that unless you're desperate for a challenge, just build on ARM in
the first place, since any RPi is capable of compiling Mailutils.

If you want the same build to run on Debian and "Redhat / Mageia",
then static linking can achieve that more reliably. Note that it
will prevent security updates to gnutls being applied when running
Mailutils with encrypted connections, until you rebuild the static
binary. You should be able to use the Debian x86_64 Mailutils
packages at least, so you probably don't need to try running the
Mageia build on there. Just compile and install Mailutils normally
on "Redhat / Mageia for intel" and "debian for ARM" as two separate
processes.

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