Re: Citadel? Courier? Cyrus? Dovecot? - I just want to backup my emails

From	Markus Robert Kessler <no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject	Re: Citadel? Courier? Cyrus? Dovecot? - I just want to backup my emails
Date	2026-01-19 16:19 +0000
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On 19 Jan 2026 07:23:39 +1000 Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

> Markus Robert Kessler <no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:
>> after a 'make install' to some DESTDIR, I took the created 'usr' dir,
>> chown-ed everything to root:root and verified that the rights are
>> correct.
>> 
>> Then I created a tar.gz archive out of this 'usr' dir.
>> 
>> From this I took alien to convert to rpm:
>> alien --target=`arch` -r gnu-mailutils-3.21.tar.gz
>> 
>> 
>> All worked, but when trying to install the rpm I get
>> 
>> [1040 root@mga9x64-lb1 /tmp]# rpm -i gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64.rpm
>> error: Failed dependencies:
>>         devel(libgnutls(64bit)) is needed by
>>         gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64 devel(libgsasl(64bit)) is needed by
>>         gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64 devel(libltdl(64bit)) is needed by
>>         gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64 libgsasl.so.7()(64bit) is needed by
>>         gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64 libgsasl.so.7(LIBGSASL_1.1)(64bit)
>>         is needed by gnu-
>> mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64
> 
> x86_64? This is in the Raspberry Pi Group. Did you pick the wrong
> newsgroup to discuss this or are you trying to complile on a PC but run
> Mailutils on a RPi? That's possible, but difficult, and for this you'd
> be much better compiling Mailutils on the RPi instead.
> 
>> This is strange because './configure' said
> 
> The configure script worked if you got the mailutils binaries built,
> which it sounds like you did (otherwise DESTDIR will be empty). I've
> never used "alien" and don't know how it goes about making packages, but
> it looks like something must be going wrong there. If you're trying to
> install to RPi (ARM) a package built for x86_64, then that's definitely
> what's going wrong.

Hello, thanks! And, no, I did not click onto the wrong group.
Instead, the desperate situation is like that:

On latest raspbian, debian for ARM, there is only an ancient version 3.10. 
Good to play with, but that's all.

On debian for intel, there is version 3.20 - but it is not complete. 
imap4d and pop3d are missing and other stuff. Just left away.

On Redhat / Mageia for intel, which I am also running, there is even no 
such package like GNU mailutils at all.

So, no big difference, in which group to ask. No 'one group for all'.
Whatever you want to achieve, you have to try yourself.

__But, as far as I see, here are the experts.__

So, I take this chance to say thank you for all the hints I already got.

Besides this:

Looking at the 'Failed dependencies' message above, this looks as if the 
devel packages have to be linked statically, otherwise movemail and others 
cannot access them and are asking for them again.
Do you dispose this to be so?

Thank you!

Best regards,

Markus

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