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Re: Web compatibility in FLOSS websites

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Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-08-15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2025-08-15 10:35, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 23:38:22 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-08-14 23:22, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members
>>>>> (buggy Javascript required, and that made Firefox fill up all my PC's
>>>>> RAM and freeze, so I had to kill it. Just to display some company
>>>>> logos. Huff! I wouldn't choose Linux as my OS based on that website!)
>>>>>
>>>> The page loads fine here.
>>>
>>> It did load in Brave and only took 1.4 of the 8 cores to do so. I didn't
>>> note the RAM usage.
>>
>> In Ffx I looked at "about:processes" and it only went up when moving
>> the "cursor" up/dn, ie, when displaying a new section of it, as
>> expected.
> 
> Still, working fine in one browser (or a few) but not in others can't be
> the new normal for FLOSS websites.
> 
> This is the same free software world that was constantly hit by vendor
> lock-in and proprietary stuff from MICROS~1, this is the same free
> software world where some sites would only work in IE in the late 90s,
> early 2000s and left out free software users.
> 
> It still strikes me as unbelievable that it's now acceptable for free
> software entities to have websites that require new hardware and require
> features only implemented in a few browsers.

Exactly, and to do what here? Displaying headings and company
logos! HTML was designed from the start to do that perfectly well.
Requiring Javascript is pure willful over-complication for the sake
of it, and in so doing introduced a bug where there needn't be one.
The code to do all that is in the browser, it's in all major
browsers from the 1990s even, I shouldn't be facing bugs with that
in 2025 just because someone wanted to do it "their way" with
Javascript instead!

This is exactly why, when faced with such empty JS-required pages
in Dillo, I'm better off just moving on and browsing other websites
rather than conceding (as people keep telling me I should do) and
loading them Firefox, where they're free to lock up my whole
system.

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