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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 16/08/2025 01:38, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> This is exactly why, when faced with such empty JS-required pages
>> in Dillo, I'm better off just moving on and browsing other websites
>> rather than conceding (as people keep telling me I should do) and
>> loading them Firefox, where they're free to lock up my whole
>> system.
> 
> Mmm. yes. I sort of agree.
> 
> I've noticed various sites that will send Firefox into random RAMGrab(TM)
> 
> On my Laptop (4GB only) some video sites if left running videos, can 
> lock up the audio which then endlessly repeats the same 250ms of audio. 
> Making it a suitable political candidate I suppose...
> 
> However my home websites all use JavaScript as a very convenient way to 
> write a real-time user control interface.
> 
> If you change something you want it to immediately change (AJAX) the 
> server end and update the (local) screen
> 
> This is not the original intention of HTML, but it's the simplest way 
> for one device running a browser to control another.

Yes, well this is exactly my point. The content shown on the page
in question is exactly "the original intention of HTML", but they
use JS anyway and hence cause new problems where there needn't be
any.

People can have their JS for video sites (though these do have less
excuse now with HTML5 adding support for them) and whatever you're
doing (though I'd seek a different approach personally). But if I'm
browsing for basic information like what HTML _was_ intended to
display and a website blanks me in Dillo because I'm not running
their JS anyway, I'll look elsewhere. Either they're using JS just
for the sake of it, or they're actually trying to do something
sneeky (often now just for blocking non-humans, sometimes with the
wrong conclusion in my case anyway).

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