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Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles?

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles?
Date 2025-01-25 14:56 -0800
Organization The Starmaker Organization
Message-ID <67956C15.586A@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
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Python wrote:
> 
> Le 25/01/2025 à 22:05, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit
> :
> > On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 0:39:40 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/24/2025 2:11 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:24:04 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 1/23/2025 2:20 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:47:25 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass
> >>>>>>>> baubles.
> >>>>>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic
> >>>>>>>> attain
> >>>>>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The
> >>>>>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error
> >>>>>>>> that a
> >>>>>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities
> >>>>>>>> convincing
> >>>>>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent,
> >>>>>>>> such as
> >>>>>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and
> >>>>>>>> thoughtlessly
> >>>>>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic,
> >>>>>>>> slavish, and avoidable.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks
> >>>>>>> monopoly'.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> The really amusing thing is that people are intellectual weaklings who
> >>>>>> couldn't reason themselves out of a paper bag, or they wouldn't accept
> >>>>>> curved space for a second.
> >>>>> Did you ever acknowledge my point that Einstein should have understood
> >>>>> that parallel lines would have to meet for space to curve? Isn't it
> >>>>> stupid as hell not to recognize that? If he had been an honest and
> >>>>> forthright person, he would have said we have to presume that parallel
> >>>>> lines meet to claim space is curved, and this is our derivation for the
> >>>>> doubling of the Newtonian deflection. Then, every reasonable person
> >>>>> would have balked at such an irrational assumption and recognized him as
> >>>>> a foolish fellow.
> >>>>
> >>>> Think of drawing two horizontal lines on a spheres surface. They will
> >>>> never intersect.
> >>> You presume space can be treated as a surface. That is a petitio
> >>> principii. You presume it's curved to conclude it's curved. It's not a
> >>> surface and its not curved.
> >>
> >> If it was curved a bit, then I can see how two parallel lines might
> >> intersect at a point at infinity, so to speak, in a strange sense. It's
> >> strange to me. When I plot field individual lines in one of my
> >> experimental fields, they never intersect even though they twist and
> >> turn through the field...
> > Fields can curve while space cannot.
> 
> "Laurence", what is your level of education in maths? Just asking.


While you are at it, ask him how many planets in our solar system...

only 3 year olds give an answer.








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How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 12:35 +0000
  Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 10:05 -0800
    Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-23 12:34 -0600
    Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 21:47 +0000
      Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 22:20 +0000
        Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-23 14:24 -0800
          Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 21:40 +0000
          Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 22:11 +0000
            Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 16:39 -0800
              Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-25 21:05 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 21:11 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-25 21:15 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 21:23 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-01-27 11:13 +0100
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-25 22:50 +0100
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 22:10 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-25 23:25 +0100
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 22:30 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-26 07:47 +0100
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2025-01-26 14:42 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-26 21:02 +0100
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2025-01-26 14:34 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-26 23:46 -0600
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-02-01 23:28 +0100
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-02-02 08:34 +0100
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-02-02 11:39 +0100
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-02-02 11:13 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-02-02 21:30 +0100
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-02-03 02:38 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-02-02 13:41 +0100
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-25 14:56 -0800
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2025-01-26 14:31 +0000
            Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 02:33 +0000
              Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 18:58 -0800
              Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-25 21:14 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 21:23 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-25 21:39 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 21:47 +0000
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2025-01-26 14:33 +0000
    Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 21:44 +0000
      Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 21:35 -0800
        Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 05:45 +0000
          Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 22:08 -0800
          Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 22:47 -0800
            Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 12:12 -0600
        Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 21:30 +0000
    Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 22:05 +0000
      Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 12:04 -0600
        Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-24 10:31 -0800
          Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 12:53 -0600
            Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-24 12:43 -0800
              Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-26 15:16 -0600
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-27 11:02 -0800
                Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 18:05 -0600
    Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 22:26 +0000
    Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 22:28 +0000
    Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 22:40 +0000
      Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-23 15:06 -0800
        Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 04:26 +0000
        Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 04:25 +0000
        Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 21:51 +0000
          Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-24 14:46 -0800
    Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-24 09:06 +0100
      Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 12:14 -0600
        Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-25 07:53 +0100
      Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-24 10:29 -0800
        Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 12:55 -0600
        Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-25 07:54 +0100
          Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-25 09:44 -0800
            Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-25 13:04 -0600

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