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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Einstein's Mistakes |
| Date | 2024-10-30 08:54 -0700 |
| Organization | The Starmaker Organization |
| Message-ID | <672256BF.4F92@ix.netcom.com> (permalink) |
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Thomas Heger wrote:
>
> Am Dienstag000029, 29.10.2024 um 15:35 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>
> >> Am Montag000028, 28.10.2024 um 06:26 schrieb The Starmaker:
> >>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Starmaker: It was already in the marketplace for a long time.
> >>>
> >>> sorry, i only know of only one Manhattan Project..
> >>
> >> Sure, but what were they doing there in Los Alamos?
> >>
> >> To me it looked like a concentration camp for physicists.
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> > Physicists there were held against their own will. They did not
> > volunteer for it, they were...drafted.
>
> Sure: Los Alamos looked like barracks, which were placed remotely in the
> desert.
>
> But my assumption was, that the atomic bomb was much older than the
> Manhattan project, which had the purpose, to 'gag' the physicists and
> sort out those, which were not willing to comply
> (e.g. proponents of 'free energy', abiogenic oil theory, homeopathy and
> similar heresies).
Yes, it was much older. Albert Einstein invented the atomic bomb in 1905...that is when it first came to him in his mind.
From then on it became his passion and quest to make it happen.
Einstein gave How To Build an Atomic Bomb classes in the 1920's...Enrico Fermi was a student. (Leo Zilgard also his main student)
Enrico Fermi was intensively involved with Einstein's theory of relativity and traced the hidden power of atomic nuclei.
In 1923, he wrote that it would probably not be possible to release this energy in the near future, "because
the first effect would be an explosion so terrible that it would tear the physicist who tried it to pieces".
He himself was to unleash this energy two decades later.
>
> The Soviets did something quite similar and regarded e.g. Andre Sacharov
> ('father' of the Soviet bomb) as 'enemy of the people' (for what reason
> I don't know).
Albert Einsten went to Russia and showed them How To Build an Atomic Bomb. (and delivered all the designs)
>
> The atomic bomb itself was most likely already known befor WWII.
>
> A reason to think so:
>
> Einstein and Szillard patented their 'Einstein fridge' in 1930 in Berlin.
>
> The only known use of that device is as part of a fast breeding reactor
> (those reactors that produce plutonium).
>
> But for which purpose would you like to breed plutonium, if you had no
> atomic bomb?
atomick reactors can really hot. (china simdrome)
Our Sun is very hot. Why do you thing space is very cold? REFRIDGERATION.
>
> The Einstein fridge doesn't coll (this was at least found out by a bunch
> of students, who rebuilt the device).
>
> It is kind of 'three substances absorption cooler' (with ammonia, water
> and butan in liquid form).
>
> (To me this 'fridge' does not look like a device, which could eventually
> cool. Therefore I would support the claim of those students.)
>
> A theory of my taste goes like this:
>
> the bomb was already known in 1930 and Szillard and Einstein played a
> role in its development (undertanken long befor 1930 and certainly not
> at Los Alamos).
>
> To reward Einstein and Szillard secretly, that patent was used, even if
> the device does not cool.
>
> ...
>
> TH
Albert Einstein before the Manhattan Project 'already' had in mind what the atomic bomb
looked like, design like, weight of the bomb, all the internal components/ingredients, etc:
"A single bomb of this
type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy
the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However,
such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by
air." --Albert Einstein
https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
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