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Re: Carl Sagan

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Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
> On 12/17/2023 12:05 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> > On 12/16/2023 11:36 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> >> On 12/16/2023 11:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Never heard da name Velikovsky...not even worth googling it
> >>
> >>
> >> Velikovsky was a cool guy in fact :) A keen sense of business, using
> >> cro-magnon features in the American societies. It got him a lot of
> >> money! Even in 1990s, at workplace when someone wanted to bring up a
> >> "scientific" fact about the world, they'd tell me with enthusiasm how
> >> they enjoyed reading of "Worlds in Collision" (or something) by
> >> Velikovsky. Americans were still reading those early 1950s stuff!...
> >> more than 40 years after they appeared. So the guy was smart and knew
> >> what he was doing. And did it perfectly well. Hahahah :))
> >>
> >> Sagan was too good for that level of people (much higher in number
> >> compared to Sagan's readers), and couldn't sell well among them.
> >> Velikovsky had placed himself right at the correct position, targeting
> >> the largest part of Americans that read books at all. Very clever way
> >> of making a lot of money.
> >>
> >> This Archie here isn't even a fart compared with Velikovsky, although
> >> is trying to do the same. In fact, I don't think he has had any of his
> >> ebooks read by even by one person :) So describing him as "fart"
> >> indeed is an overestimation. Big strategic mistake, costing him a lot
> >> of time wasted. He chose the wrong subject. Americans aren't
> >> interested in physics and math. As simple as that.
> >>
> >> Velikovsky, on the other had, cleverly made his claims about the Earth
> >> and solar system carefully look similar to Americans' religious
> >> beliefs! So everybody who knew something about Bible would get
> >> immensely curious to see what this "scientist" was saying. He said
> >> everything in a way to give it a scientific tone. Very clever.
> >>
> >> Sagan, had another formula for making his books successful, which
> >> satiated the appetites of much fewer people in the USA.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Sagan was very successful in selling his books too, but nothing compared
> > to Velikovsky. He was so pissed at Velikovsky for giving bullshit to
> > dumb people, making them even more removed from reality, and making 50
> > times more money in doing that compared with himself. So there was this
> > intense resentment between the scientist Sagan, towards the businessman
> > Velikovsky hiding himself inside a scientist's shell.
> >
> > Very interesting situation :)
> >
> > Velikovsky was no stranger with true science (he had several degrees in
> > various fields), but was trying to make a lot of money, not to educate
> > people about anything. He just used the "science" theme because he knew
> > it would work pretty well when making it look like something close to
> > religious predictions crap. His formula was pure gold.
> >
> 
> In fact, I just checked, _all_ his books are still in print and being
> newly printed. They're still selling like hell. 70 years after first
> coming out and making him rich throughout 1950s and 60s and 70s, till
> the last day he lived; and they're still pouring money into pockets of
> whoever that owns the rights to his works. A testament to the fact that
> American society has not taken one step away from total ignorance and
> isolation.
> 
> His books are written for Sheep. For the exact way through which Sheep
> look at "science". And sheep, American people have been and are, and
> will be in the future as long as their isolation from reality is
> maintained.

Like you said, you're not a business. Carl Sagan was a 'TVeee
Scientists'.

That means every time a cow burbed or an apple fell from a tree the
media would call him and he was ON THE AIR...selling books.

He'd be on the radio stations all over the united states talking on the
phone
and showing up at TV News stations all over the usa. 

They are the ones who sold his books.

Each radion and tvee stations has millions of viewers and listners.


dat is how you sell books.

Everybody at FoxNews automatically has a number one best seller.

And it's not because the book is good.

"These Boots Are Made For Walking." was a hit because
Frank Sinatra made the radio stations play it oven and over and over and
over....










-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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