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Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept.

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In article <almarsoft.2590195919171329036@news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:57:04 +0000 (GMT), Dave Symes
> <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> > Yup! I get a lot of these posting from software
> > companies I deal with, PITA, but that's the way they do
> > it, and from my comunications with them, they arn't
> > bothered about changing.

> My phone does email like that, plus markup (which I don't
> use). This...is supposed to be progress. Just seems like
> a waste of bandwidth to me.

Yes, modern 'smart'phones do seem particularly prone to
base64-encode their e-mails.

Soething I was reminded about only this morning when my
neighbour e-mailed me from his phone to check that his cat
was OK...

If you send 'plain text' from these phones (and, no doubt,
some other systems) you get base64-encoded text.

Pluto, however, can deal with these up to a point, as they
present as a plain text attachment to an emprty text window.
The plain text is perfectly readable, though.

The problem with base64-encoded HTML is that the original
enoded file is (possibly) malformed.

Jeremy Nicoll looked into this some years ago and wrote as
follows:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

base64 data should be in lines of up  to 76 characters
long, whereas in these [encoded HTML] files the lines are
much longer and sometimes start with a  space.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

These overlong lines seem to be the cause of Pluto's
problems.

Looking at a recent such e-mail to me, I see that the lines
in the original base64-encoded HTML are 15 chars longer than
they should be.

Following the instructions as per Allan Calder's response
[article <525063d0e0alan_calder@o2.co.uk> ], if you then
save the decoded HTML back onto the original E-mail in Pluto
(so that you have two HTML attachments, the original,
unintelligble one and the decoded one), and then re-export
and open the exported file in Edit, you see this quite
clearly.

As the e-mail headers will include something like
Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64,
Pluto base64-encodes the readable HTML, so it is not
recognisable as such in Edit. But since the lines are of an
appropriate length, Pluto can read it OK.

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Pluto & BBC complaints dept. M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-01-12 11:30 +0000
  Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-01-12 12:32 +0000
    Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-01-12 18:57 +0000
      Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-13 09:22 +0100
        Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-13 09:46 +0000
  Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-12 16:24 +0000
  Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-01-12 19:02 +0000
    Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-12 19:58 +0000
      Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-01-13 11:04 +0000
        Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-13 12:03 +0000
          Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-01-13 14:04 +0000
            Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-01-16 10:27 +0000
              Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-16 11:36 +0000
        Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Ken Wright <kcwright@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-01-14 20:41 +0000
          Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-01-14 21:21 +0000
            Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Ken Wright <kcwright@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 21:03 +0000
          Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-15 11:22 +0000
            Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Ken Wright <kcwright@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-01-15 21:21 +0000
              Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-16 07:01 +0100
                Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-16 08:52 +0000
                Re: Pluto & BBC complaints dept. Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-24 11:23 +0000

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