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| From | Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.editors, comp.text.pdf, alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: What is the best free software for creating & editing PDFs nowadays |
| Date | 2025-03-05 12:50 +0300 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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Marion:
> > I believe LaTeX has packages for that. I have produced
> > PDF booklets from Postscrpt, with psbook and psnup. The
> > incoming PostScipt was mine, from either LaTeX or GNU
> > Troff.
>
> Thanks for that suggestion as, in the past, I printed
> booklets.
>
> Printing a booklet requires arranging both sides of the
> pages in a specific order so that when the 8.5x11-inch
> printed sheets are folded in half, the pages appear in the
> correct sequence as if they were in a booklet.. [...]
> However, back to the printing of booklets, that's one
> thing I had trouble finding free (as in no cost) software
> as printing a booklet from folded 8.5x11-inch paper is
> more complex than standard printing, especially when
> dealing with double-sided printing and odd numbers of
> pages & title pages.
That's exactly what I did with psbook and psnup from
psutils. I produced an A4 booklet from an A5 document with
sequential pages. I printed my booklent by with a normal
single-sided printer, in two runs, without reordering the
sheaf in between. All the rearrangement was taken care of
during the generation of the PDF.
Before *roff and *tex, I used to print such booklets in
whatever software I had at hand, including MS Word '97 and
Adobe PageMaker. For Word, I had a simple Pascal program
that would generate two comma-spearated lists of page
numbers, ready to paste in into the Print window, for
printing the even and odd pages of the booklet.
The alrorithm is rather simple, IIRC. After you append
empty pages to make the total a multiple of four, the
following invariant holds true for each side of any quatro:
page_left + page_right = page_total + 1
For example, a twelve-page booklet will be printed on three
(12/4) sheets thusly:
even odd
12 1 verso 2 11
10 3 verso 4 9
8 5 verso 6 7
So, you first print the odd pages in increasing order, and
then odd ones in decreasing order, to end up with a set of
sheats ready to fold (IIRC). I still seem to have the ugly
ancient program in Pascal that I wrote in late school or
early University to perfrom that task:
https://paste.sr.ht/~shepton/4d8374ec6e2c543fa8caad43709596b1cae5cd94
It should compile in FreePascal compiler.
> As noted, LaTeX has sophisticated built-in features to
> analyze the content of the PDF to more intelligently
> handle page breaks to avoid splitting images or creating
> an awkward text flow.
No, LaTeX and Troff are tools to author and typeset new
documents, rather than modify existing PDFs.
> Since the expensive cost of free (no cost) software is in
> the trials and tribulations to find the best ones that
> work,
Which is why I prefer to use time-honoured classics.
> does anyone have experience with any of the distributions
> above for creating the booklet style PDFs?
I have used this one a long time ago:
https://ctan.org/pkg/booklet
And I have used psutils (with psbook and psnup) no so long
time ago:
https://github.com/rrthomas/psutils
Generally, I have found *roff much easier than LaTeX. I
have written several Groff macros myself, including those to
wrap text around images as shown in this newsletter:
https://corewar.co.uk/coreops/coreops02.txt
Both Groff and LaTeX have great and helpful communities.
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