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Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project

Subject Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project
From curt@kcwc.com (Curt Welch)
Organization NewsReader.Com
Message-ID <20111029200440.932$Va@newsreader.com> (permalink)
Newsgroups comp.ai.philosophy, comp.lang.lisp
References <HGdpq.1387$Ff3.880@uutiset.elisa.fi> <78bc76a1-4088-4b14-9c9a-9168b166b048@l12g2000vby.googlegroups.com> <VU9qq.1861$Ff3.543@uutiset.elisa.fi> <20111028001204.156$RH@newsreader.com> <PPxqq.2056$Ff3.950@uutiset.elisa.fi>
Date 2011-10-30 00:04 +0000

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Antti J Ylikoski <antti.ylikoski@aalto.fi> wrote:
> 28.10.2011 7:12, Curt Welch kirjoitti:
> > Antti J Ylikoski<antti.ylikoski@aalto.fi>  wrote:
> >> 26.10.2011 17:45, fortunatus kirjoitti:
> >>> On Oct 24, 9:24 am, Antti J Ylikoski<antti.yliko...@aalto.fi>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> The reputable SourcForge have accepted the Mentifex project onto
> >>>> their www pages:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://mind.sourceforge.net/mind4th.html
> >>>> also:http://mind.sourceforge.net/lisp.html
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to read here, what is the consensus of the scientific
> >>>> community about this Mentifex project.  Some claim that it is
> >>>> rubbish -- but on the other hand it is there in the SourceForge.
> >>>>
> >>>> kind regards, Antti J Ylikoski
> >>>> Helsinki, Finland, the EU
> >>>
> >>> Download the program and try it yourself.  Study it and modify it.
> >>> Tell us what you think.
> >>>
> >>> On the other hand, you asked for something from this news group
> >>> first, so it's not entirely fair of me to turn it around completely
> >>> right off the bat - so I'll offer my opinion that if you are
> >>> interested in Mentifex, then I do feel it is worthwhile to try out an
> >>> implementation and experiment with it.  There can be something to
> >>> learn there.
> >>>
> >>> Mentifex is not the only guy who loves his program.  There are
> >>> others, even some with their own implementations posted online.
> >>>
> >>> (In spite of my positive attitude here, I somehow suspect you may be
> >>> such an interested "non-beginner", and are trolling us to demand
> >>> support and attention.  If that's wrong then please forgive me - but
> >>> either way why not study the software?  You won't regret it.)
> >>
> >> OK I see.  I apologize if somebody feels I'm trolling the group.
> >>
> >> I think I will heed your advice and try the program, and then report
> >> about it.
> >>
> >> yours, Andy
> >
> > I would like to see that report!  Honestly.  I don't think I've heard
> > of anyone brave enough to actually do that! :)
> >
>
> See my entry below about "Kritik der reinen Mentifex".
>
> Result: This is not much more than an ELIZA clone with some elaborate
> hacks about thought.
>
> kind regards, Antti "Andy" Ylikoski
> Helsinki, Finland, the EU

Impressive amount of work creating ASCII graphics however! :)

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The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Antti J Ylikoski <antti.ylikoski@aalto.fi> - 2011-10-24 16:24 +0300
  Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Espen Vestre <espen@vestre.net> - 2011-10-24 15:30 +0200
  Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project "J.A. Legris" <jalegris@sympatico.ca> - 2011-10-24 06:42 -0700
    Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project casey <jgkjcasey@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-10-24 16:02 -0700
      Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project N <n.m.keele@hotmail.co.uk> - 2011-10-25 10:40 -0700
  Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project curt@kcwc.com (Curt Welch) - 2011-10-24 13:58 +0000
    Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-10-24 17:22 +0000
  Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-10-24 16:50 +0000
  Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project fortunatus <daniel.eliason@excite.com> - 2011-10-26 07:45 -0700
    Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Antti J Ylikoski <antti.ylikoski@aalto.fi> - 2011-10-27 12:56 +0300
      Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project curt@kcwc.com (Curt Welch) - 2011-10-28 04:12 +0000
        Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Antti J Ylikoski <antti.ylikoski@aalto.fi> - 2011-10-28 16:08 +0300
          Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-10-28 20:08 +0000
            Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Antti J Ylikoski <antti.ylikoski@aalto.fi> - 2011-10-30 07:16 +0200
            Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Antti J Ylikoski <antti.ylikoski@aalto.fi> - 2011-11-01 16:13 +0200
              Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2011-11-01 16:34 -0400
              Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-11-01 22:49 +0100
              Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-02 17:23 +0000
                Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Raffael Cavallaro <raffaelcavallaro@pas.despam.s.il.vous.plait.mac.com> - 2011-11-02 14:55 -0400
                Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201111.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-11-03 04:13 +0100
                Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project Raffael Cavallaro <raffaelcavallaro@pas.despam.s.il.vous.plait.mac.com> - 2011-11-03 11:11 -0400
          Re: The scientific consensus about the Mentifex project curt@kcwc.com (Curt Welch) - 2011-10-30 00:04 +0000

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