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| From | Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.acorn.networking |
| Subject | Re: ISP update breaks Hermes |
| Date | 2025-07-23 17:37 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <128c03415c.chris@mytardis> (permalink) |
| References | <5c40e29be5bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> <9204ec405c.chris@mytardis> <5c40fb7588bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> |
In message <5c40fb7588bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <9204ec405c.chris@mytardis>,
> Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <5c40e29be5bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
>> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
>>> My email host provider xencentric hosting updated their servers
>>> on saturday night from Dovecot 2.3 to 2.4 and in so doing broke
>>> Hermes pop3 and smptp. The company is suggesting that It's just
>>> me and by inference that it's Hermes.
>> and the workaround has already been suggested.
> I've not seen that and I've just looked and I've not received that.
The workaround was to switch to using the non-SSL ports. Thus avoiding the
SSL certificate error. You might get the "Connection Lost" message
sometimes but that is a different problem.
> I have been asked a question on there which i'm about to answer.
>> I am on Xencentric with Hermes and it not happening here its there
>> setup.
> Sorry, I don't understand the logic of that.
I am saying I am using Xencentric Hosting (you get your emails from WROCC
via them). I am using the SSL Certs and not having any issues.
>>> I'm getting certificate errors which I can't get passed. I've
>>> updates my machines certs but no improvement.
>> It's their end that is giving the error, Hermes has nothing to do
>> with the certificate error, that comes from AcornSSL module,
>> ensure you are using the latest available version. version 1.07
>> (28 Mar 2025) mbedTLS 3.6.3
> I am now since Andrew sent it to me a couple of hours ago.
Did you reboot after installing the newer version of AcornSSL ?
>>> I can sometimes pull email using port 110 but with no secure
>>> connection just APOP but it mostly fails with "Connection lost".
>> That is timeout error. I have already reported that their primary
>> Mail server is not responding fast enough to requests
>>> SMTP is almost none functional for the same reasons and I've
>>> swapped to using virgin media severs for own domain emails which
>>> actually works fine.
>> Which proves it not your end that is the issue.
> Well xencentric are telling me their logs say my machine is not
> configured right, they've pointed out some errors. I'm still trying
> to understand it.
What sort of errors?
>>> What to do?
>> Have you send them a snapshot of the Certificate error message.
> I have.
>>> I'm not convinced xencentric are bothered about 1 customer, I
>>> hope I'm wrong.
>> Complain to Neil, and send them a snapshot of the certificate error.
> I have.
>>> My phone and iPad use imap and they're working fine.
>>> So has email moved past what Hermes can handle now?
>> NO, It's NOT Hermes! Certificates are handled by the AcornSSL
>> module, not Hermes as Alan Wrigley has already pointed out in the
>> thread on AW mailing list.
> i've not seen that and still have not.
It was in his initial response to your post on his mailing list.
>>> Should I change provider?
>> Up to you. I moved my personal domain away from Xencentric awhile
>> ago, only have the club's domain still on their servers and might
>> be moving them.
> Who to?
I moved to 20i
>>> Any suggestions?
>> Don't mention RISC OS or Hermes to them, as that is not relevant.
>> Your issue is certificate errors and timeout messages (connection
>> lost).
> OK.
>> There are websites out on the web that will analyse your domain
>> including the mail servers being used and advising if they are
>> working correctly.
> Thanks.
--
Chris Hughes
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