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Re: ISP update breaks Hermes

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In article <bdf316415c.chris@mytardis>,
   Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <5c410cd720bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
>           Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> >> What sort of errors?

> > Complaining about my host name and domain name.

> Hmm for email it's mail.<your domain name>.org.uk
> for both SMTP and POP3

It is indeed and mine has been set that way for a very long time
which is why I didn't wish to reveal that full url as it publishes my
email address.

> Have you turned on detailed logging on in Hermes for your accounts
> that use Xencentric, 

Yes, first thing I did. 

> as they will show the interaction between your computer 
> and their server and might give you more information.

The xentric (or whatever its called) people told me my problem is in
the helo message but having got passed the issues of certificates and
AcornSSL it is not preventing me posting so I have time to fiddle.

Their error log tells me to look at certain rfc specs and that tells
me that the helo needs to be either an ip address in square brackets
[x.x.x.x] or an FQDN. The logs from Hermes shows that mine is neither
at the moment. My best efforts to change that in RISC OS not Hermes
didn't do anything according to Hermes logs. I'm working on it...

I'm at a loss to understand why the "local domain" field is greyed
out unless you have "try name server too" ticked. The whole local
domain thing makes zero sense to me.

Yes, I do know that Hermes can set the helo for each smtp server it
connects to and no, I'm not using that feature at the moment.

I want to experiment to learn more before I decide which path suits
me best. 

Bob.

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ISP update breaks Hermes Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-07-23 11:37 +0100
  Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-07-23 13:12 +0100
    Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2025-07-23 13:21 +0100
      Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-07-23 13:47 +0100
        Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-07-23 15:58 +0100
      Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-07-23 15:56 +0100
    Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-07-23 15:55 +0100
      Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-07-23 17:28 +0100
        Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-07-23 19:24 +0100
  Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-07-23 13:20 +0100
    Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-07-23 16:08 +0100
      Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-07-23 17:37 +0100
        Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-07-23 19:18 +0100
          Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-07-23 21:09 +0100
            Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-07-24 08:47 +0100
              Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-07-24 10:59 +0100
                Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-07-24 19:53 +0100
                Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-07-24 22:22 +0100
                Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2025-07-25 08:47 +0100
                Re: ISP update breaks Hermes Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-07-25 16:59 +0100

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