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Re: Games for May - No, June! - Elite Plus. (hi Syd)

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On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:20:59 +0100, Angus wrote:

> In article <1224116626650.NC-AmigaOS4.groucho@News.Individual.NET>, 
> groucho@spamp.inet.fi says...
> >  
> > Playing Elite again after so many years reminded me 
> > about the good and also the bad things the game imho 
> > has.
> 
> WHAT????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    :)

Even the greatest games have their faults  :)
 
> > This game is about space dogfighting to the purest. 
> > Sure you can (and actually in the beginning of the game 
> > have to) concentrate only to the trading part but you 
> > will then miss the most challenging part of the game. 
> > Odds are heavily against you in the beginning but once 
> > you manage to make some money and uppgrade the 
> > ship a bit you actually start to enjoy the battles.
> > 
> Y'see I spent a long time playing Elite where (during the lunch hour) we 
> would try and make a successful run or two in a basic, non-upgraded 
> ship. We loved the challenge of trying to fight your way through against 
> the odds, although we generally avoided the most lawless systems.

I suppose you can get some short term fun that 
way - wait a minute, are you proposing some sort 
of competition here?  :)

> > It is really easy to die in the early stage of the 
> > career as your feeble vessel cannot stand much 
> > punishment and the flight controls are quite confusing
> > until you get the hang of it. This steep learning curve 
> > might put off some of the modern gamers who are 
> > used to more gentle start of the new game.
> 
> Lightweights!   :)

I remember some serious frustration when I tried 
Elite first time - like with "Carrier Command" it 
took me quite long time to really get into the game.

Which reminds me, how about some comments from 
our new Elite player, Nate?  :) 

> > The game starts really slowly and trading can be a bit
> > boring - finding a lucrative trade route and then ferrying 
> > goods from one spaceport to other and back is fun only 
> > if you are into that sort of thing. 
> 
> But that's what I think was so cool. You were building towards affording 
> equipment that would allow you to do the more dangerous and profitable 
> runs. Just getting your first beam laser was very gratifying, making you 
> that much more formidable against pirates and the like.

I remember the joy of finally buying the docking computer -
though I had already pretty much mastered the manual docking 
by the time I had money to buy it   :)

> > Exploring the universe is obligatory work to any serious 
> > space adventurer - if only to find the best trade routes and
> > even possibly a mission or two to fly. I remember there 
> > were five of them to be found, yes?
> > 
> I think this varied quite a bit between versions.
> 
> I think the BBC only had 2, (The Constrictor and the Thargoid Invasion 
> plan missions) which the C64 also had but along with the Merchant Prince 
> of Thrum's "present" (squeak-squeak).
> 
> The spectrum had some more including evacuating colonists from a system 
> where the star was about to go nova.

My understanding is that Amiga version has five missions - can 
anybody confirm this?

> The thing is back in 1985 or whenever the game was released on your 
> particular platform, while you were being entertained with an excellent 
> 3D comabt game, the likes of which had not been seen before, you just 
> didn't know what the game had lying in wait for you as you progressed 
> through the ranks on a journey of discovery, so there was a real sense 
> of wonder.

Speaking of ranks - did you make it to "Elite"? I remember it took me
awful
long time to reach "Dangerous" and after that I kind of lost interest.

  Bye,

    Seppo

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