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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? |
| Date | 2026-04-23 19:54 +0000 |
| Organization | NOYB |
| Message-ID | <10se4en.152c.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink) |
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AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote: > On 4/23/26 7:49 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > >as I (think I) mentioned before, that the *device*/*OS* has > >outstanding non-fixed vulnerabilities, does not mean that an *app* on > >such a device can not be secure (provided the device's biomaterics, etc. > >are not compromised). > > Agreed. The problem is how to KNOW FOR SURE that the app is safe. I use many > apps on my phone (like this PhoNews newsreader), but not sensitive apps > (like my banking apps). I think that is just common sense on an old no > longer security updated phone like mine. As (I think) I mentioned, I consider the banking app(s) safe if the bank(s) still support the 'old' Android version (in our case Android 13). If they do and anything goes wrong which is not user-caused, they'll have a hard time not reimbursing the (financial) damages. While this is nost cast-in-stone in law, it is common practice in our country and probably is most of the EU/Europe. Another safety example: Our governmental/official-institutions ID system (DigiD [1]), still supports Android 13 (and possibly earlier). > >That said, most 'banking' I do on my phone [1] is *reading* (past > >transactions, etc.), not performing transactions. Most, if not all, > >transactions are done on my (probably totally insecure :-)) laptop, in > >the privacy of my (probably totally insecure :-)) home. > > My banking, investment, etc, apps all require a password to read past > transactions. And once in they require nothing further for new transactions > such as transferring out money to a perps account. Since I have no NEED of > those apps on my security challenged phone, why take a chance... That is indeed not very secure. Ours (can) use biometrics like fingerprint (which is what we use) and face recognition to get in *and* to approve transactions. They can use PIN instead of biometrics, but I don't consider that secure enough. [1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiD>
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Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-22 18:32 +0000
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Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 22:50 +0200
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Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 13:14 +0200
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-23 17:30 +0000
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-23 15:08 +0000
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-23 18:10 +0000
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Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-23 19:54 +0000
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-22 13:25 -0600
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-23 14:49 +0000
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-23 17:57 +0000
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 21:05 +0200
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-23 20:00 +0000
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 22:41 +0200
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-23 20:10 +0000
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-23 19:54 +0000
Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-23 22:16 +0000
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Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-25 14:13 +0200
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