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Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched?

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched?
Date 2026-04-23 22:41 +0200
Message-ID <5ocqbmxkcq.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
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On 2026-04-23 22:00, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-04-23 19:57, AJL wrote:
> [...]
>>> My banking, investment, etc, apps all require a password to read past
>>> transactions. And once in they require nothing further for new transactions
>>> such as transferring out money to a perps account. Since I have no NEED of
>>> those apps on my security challenged phone, why take a chance...
>>
>> Banks here demand you confirm the password using the phone, the computer
>> is not enough anymore.
> 
>    For our banks we can still use a bank-supplied hardware device which
> reads your card, needs your card PIN and then generates a TOTP code. We
> have had those devices for eons, before smartphones even existed and
> they will probably be around for a long time for elderly people (like
> me! :-)).

My bank did not provide them, and does not, as far as I know. Maybe 
special clients.

What it did was give us a card with 50 pin codes, and each time it would 
ask for a random pin of the lot.

I have an old neighbour who I know doesn't have a smartphone, not even a 
simple mobile phone. I don't know how he handles the bank.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-19 10:59 -0600
  Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-19 18:06 +0100
  Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-19 22:31 +0200
    Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-21 15:06 -0600
      Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 07:06 +0200
        Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-22 01:15 -0600
          Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 11:45 +0200
            Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-22 15:55 +0000
              Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 19:17 +0200
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-22 17:40 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 19:46 +0200
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-22 18:32 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 21:18 +0200
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-22 13:33 -0600
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 21:41 +0200
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-22 14:31 -0600
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 22:50 +0200
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-23 13:24 -0600
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-22 22:01 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-23 10:37 +0100
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-23 16:28 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 13:14 +0200
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-23 17:30 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-23 15:08 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-23 18:10 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-23 13:30 -0600
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-23 19:54 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-04-22 13:25 -0600
              Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-23 14:49 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-23 17:57 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 21:05 +0200
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-23 20:00 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-23 22:41 +0200
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-23 20:10 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-23 19:54 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-04-23 22:16 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-04-24 14:09 +0000
                Re: Q: What threats do we really face when our phones are not fully patched? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-25 14:13 +0200
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