Re: VMS Bootcamp

From	cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Newsgroups	comp.os.vms
Subject	Re: VMS Bootcamp
Date	2025-11-15 15:10 +0000
Organization	PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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In article <10f35re$1q4rf$1@dont-email.me>,
Brian Schenkenberger  <mail@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote:
>On 2025-11-12 13:04:23 +0000, Dan Cross said:
>> 
>> I suspect that there is a lot of business code floating around
>> in memory-unsafe languages (MACRO-32, Pascal, maybe COBOL if
>> used in some odd ways) etc.  Not to mention FFI calls from safe
>> languages into unsafe code.
>
>What *exactly* is memory unsafe using Macro?

Almost nothing about Macro is memory safe; almost everything is
memory unsafe.

Memory safety in this context has a definition (albeit a kind of
loose one) and nothing about Macro aligns with that definition.

>You do realize that the lion's share of VMS is Macro???

I don't see how that's relevant, though it _is_ a testament to
the skill and professionalism of its authors that VMS works so
well despite the inherent dangers of Macro as the implementation
language.

	- Dan C.

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    Re: VMS Bootcamp "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt@thereinhardts.org> - 2025-11-04 19:17 -0600
      Re: VMS Bootcamp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-05 02:49 +0000
      Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-07 13:22 +0000
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    Re: VMS Bootcamp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-06 21:25 +0000
      Re: VMS Bootcamp Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-11-06 16:28 -0500
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            Re: VMS Bootcamp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-07 01:20 +0000
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                Re: VMS Bootcamp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-07 03:07 +0000
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                Re: VMS Bootcamp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-08 23:09 +0000
                Re: VMS Bootcamp Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-11-08 18:36 -0500
                Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-12 13:04 +0000
                Re: VMS Bootcamp Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-11-12 17:14 -0500
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                Re: VMS Bootcamp Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-11-12 19:14 -0500
                Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-15 15:04 +0000
                Re: VMS Bootcamp Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-11-15 19:00 -0500
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                Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-18 13:04 +0000
                Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-18 13:06 +0000
                Re: VMS Bootcamp Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2025-11-29 19:09 -0500
                Re: VMS Bootcamp Brian Schenkenberger <mail@SendSpamHere.ORG> - 2025-11-12 18:39 -0500
                Re: VMS Bootcamp Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-11-12 18:49 -0500
                Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-15 15:10 +0000
                Re: VMS Bootcamp Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2025-11-29 19:17 -0500
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              Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-07 21:46 +0000
                Re: VMS Bootcamp Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> - 2025-11-07 23:47 +0000
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