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Re: VMS Bootcamp

From cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Newsgroups comp.os.vms
Subject Re: VMS Bootcamp
Date 2025-11-18 13:06 +0000
Organization PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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In article <10ffudr$1233b$3@dont-email.me>,
Simon Clubley  <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
>On 2025-11-15, Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
>[snip]
>>
>>>Pascal only prevents the first not the other two.
>>>
>>>The other two are not as common in Pascal as in C,
>>>because dynamic memory allocation is not as common in
>>>Pascal as in C.
>>
>> Pascal is certainly an improvement over (at least) C and
>> assembler languages in this domain: as I recall, it doesn't
>> support arbitrary pointer arithmetic, and arrays are properly
>> typed by including the array size in the type, and so on.
>
>C and assembly language (Macro-32 in this case) are not at the
>same level when it comes to safety.
>
>Assembly language is much more dangerous than C because you can
>create vulnerabilities with it that even a C compiler has a good
>chance of stopping.
>
>Bliss, the other VMS system implementation language, I would place
>somewhere between Macro-32 and C in terms of safety.

Of course: these things are all on a spectrum, though I would
assert that C is closer to assembler than it is to Pascal in
terms of safety.

	- Dan C.

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                Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-12 13:04 +0000
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                Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-15 15:04 +0000
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                Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-18 13:04 +0000
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                Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-15 15:10 +0000
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              Re: VMS Bootcamp cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-07 21:46 +0000
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