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Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices

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Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> Topic: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices 
> Why: Because it's a privacy issue of what others can do with your phone.
> 
> I'm always curious what LE can do with your phone in their hands, 
> where, in criminal cases, we get good records, under oath, of capability.
> 
> In this case, four factory resets still enabled police to recover photos.
> Two of those factory resets occurred *after* the police confiscated it!
> 
> This, in the BBC news today, shows that factory resetting your phone 
> doesn't necessarily make the images stored on that phone, not recoverable.
> 
>  *The evidence in Erin Patterson's mushroom murder trial*
>  <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdx5e9dldqwo>
>  "Forensic experts were also able to recover images on her mobile 
>   showing what looked like death cap mushrooms on weighing scales."
> 
> When I saw that, I immediately thought using the word "recover" means she
> factory reset it, where running a few searches confirms multiple resets!
> 
> Two of the 4 factory resets occurred while the phone was in police custody!
> 
> The Nightly reports that four factory resets were performed on one of 
> Patterson's devices in 2023, including a remote wipe on August 6, 
> which is the day *after* she handed the phone to police.
>  *Text messages and factory resets revealed in Mushroom triple murder trial*
> <https://thenightly.com.au/australia/i-want-nothing-to-do-with-them-text-messages-and-factory-resets-revealed-in-mushroom-triple-murder-trial-c-18784538>
> 
> Additionally, news in Australia cite specific court testimony & judicial
> summaries confirming that Patterson carried out 3 of the 4 factory resets 
> herself, and that these resets were part of the prosecution's argument 
> that she was attempting to conceal evidence (some of which they recovered).
>  *Mushroom cook's incriminating conduct: Court*
>  <https://au.news.yahoo.com/mushroom-jury-must-ignore-sympathy-011933987.html>
> 
>  *Judge in Erin Patterson's mushroom trial gives final instructions to the jury*
>  <https://7news.com.au/news/judge-in-erin-pattersons-mushroom-trial-gives-final-instructions-to-the-jury-as-accused-triple-murderers-case-wraps-up-c-19158299>
> 
> On the topic of wiping out your phone, were you aware resets don't work?
> 

Yes. I was aware that even magnetic hard drives can be recovered after
being erased and formatted multiple times. What’s not clear to me is how
well a hammer or powerful magnet will work on modern solid state drives. 

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Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-07 14:42 +0000
  Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 21:37 +0000
    Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-07 18:34 -0400
    Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Dan Druff <dan@the.keyboard> - 2025-07-08 15:11 +0000
    Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-07-09 07:14 +0200
      Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-09 11:57 +0200
  Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-07 18:34 -0400
    Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-09 11:50 +0200
    Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-09 16:32 +0000
  Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 00:21 +0000

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