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  Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2026-01-28 13:07 +0000
    Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-01-28 13:53 +0000
      Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2026-01-30 13:02 +0000
        Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-01-30 13:26 +0000
          Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-30 15:07 +0000
            Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-30 16:45 +0000
            Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-01-30 17:19 +0000
          Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2026-01-31 21:22 +0000
            Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-02-02 09:11 +0000
              Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-02-02 11:39 +0000
              Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-02-02 18:08 +0000
        Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-01-30 15:03 +0000
          Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-01-30 16:38 +0000
            Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-30 17:00 +0000
              Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-01-30 17:09 +0000
                Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-30 20:26 +0000
                  Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-01-30 23:16 +0000
          Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2026-01-31 21:22 +0000
            Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-02-01 13:09 +0000
              Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-02-01 13:40 +0000
                Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2026-02-01 14:53 +0000
                  Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-02-01 15:36 +0000
              Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2026-02-01 14:37 +0000
                Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-02-01 15:07 +0000
                  Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-02-01 15:31 +0000
                  Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) - 2026-02-01 21:54 +0000
                    Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-02-02 08:32 +0000
                      Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-02-02 17:10 +0000
                        Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-02-02 17:34 +0000
    Re: Digital Voice/VOIP Premitel opinions Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-01-31 22:44 +0000

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#38792

On Sun, 1 Feb 2026 13:40:35 +0000, David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
wrote:

>On 01/02/2026 13:09, Richmond wrote:
>> nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) writes:
>> 
>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 15:03:51 +0000, David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/01/2026 13:02, AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 13:53:37 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>>>> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> (UTV added)
>>>>>> On 2026/1/28 13:7:56, AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>>>> Still on FTTC with BT phone but likely to go fully digital (one
>>>>>>> way or another) soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are just the two of us in the property and the Panasonic
>>>>>>> Answerphone plus 3 handsets works fine.  Very occasional incoming
>>>>>>> or outgoing calls but better in many situations than giving out
>>>>>>> mobile numbers (eg either one of us can answer the incoming call
>>>>>>> if we're home and wouldn't want to be having phone conversations
>>>>>>> whilst out and about with those that have the home number).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, looking at options have come across Premitel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.premitel.uk/services/voip-phone-service-uk-homes-and-businesses/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This looks ideal.  Low cost, can port existing number, minor
>>>>>>> downside of having also to pay for incoming calls.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anybody used them and any views/opinions/alteratives?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be wary of the have-to-pay-for-incoming, whether per call or
>>>>>> per minute; worry about being susceptible to mal-intents (whether
>>>>>> they get anything out of it or not).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that a serious worry?  I suppose if they go to voicemail then
>>>>> they could try hammering that.  If the call is from an unknown
>>>>> number we would likely not answer at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are the (very) low cost alternatives?  Last month we did not
>>>>> have one non-0800 outgoing call.  We don't need 100mins.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I have voipfone.co.uk. Just pay for the number. Inbound calls free
>>>> outbound land lines cheap.
>>>>
>>>
>>> £6/month, if I've read it correctly, is way over my budget.
>> 
>> You can try it out with a free 056 number, pay as you go. (Unless I am
>> out of date). I've been doing that for years.
>
>No £6/month is for a call package. If you don't mind having an 056 
>number you can just pay for the calls you use. If you want an 01/02 
>number that is £3.00/month + VAT so £3.60
>

Thanks, that wasn't clear to me from the website.

Next issue is how to have two or more handsets.  We have a Panasonic
KX-TGC220
(https://business.currys.co.uk/catalogue/office-supplies/phones-faxes/telephone-handsets/panasonic-kx-tgc220e-cordless-phone-answering-system-with-caller-id-call-waiting-3-way-call-capability/P193954P)
with 3 handsets.  This is handy and presumably can be attached to a
new router with an ATA.

But the Panasonic was bought in 2017.  Whilst both my wife and I both
have mobiles we would only want the home number to ring on them when
we are at home (ie home wi-fi) if that was an alternative.

VOIP phones otherwise seem expensive though ATAs don't seem cheap
(compared to DECT).

-- 
AnthonyL

Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?

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#38796

On 01/02/2026 14:53, AnthonyL wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Feb 2026 13:40:35 +0000, David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 01/02/2026 13:09, Richmond wrote:
>>> nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) writes:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 15:03:51 +0000, David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 30/01/2026 13:02, AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 13:53:37 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>>>>> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (UTV added)
>>>>>>> On 2026/1/28 13:7:56, AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>>>>> Still on FTTC with BT phone but likely to go fully digital (one
>>>>>>>> way or another) soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are just the two of us in the property and the Panasonic
>>>>>>>> Answerphone plus 3 handsets works fine.  Very occasional incoming
>>>>>>>> or outgoing calls but better in many situations than giving out
>>>>>>>> mobile numbers (eg either one of us can answer the incoming call
>>>>>>>> if we're home and wouldn't want to be having phone conversations
>>>>>>>> whilst out and about with those that have the home number).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, looking at options have come across Premitel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.premitel.uk/services/voip-phone-service-uk-homes-and-businesses/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This looks ideal.  Low cost, can port existing number, minor
>>>>>>>> downside of having also to pay for incoming calls.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anybody used them and any views/opinions/alteratives?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be wary of the have-to-pay-for-incoming, whether per call or
>>>>>>> per minute; worry about being susceptible to mal-intents (whether
>>>>>>> they get anything out of it or not).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that a serious worry?  I suppose if they go to voicemail then
>>>>>> they could try hammering that.  If the call is from an unknown
>>>>>> number we would likely not answer at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are the (very) low cost alternatives?  Last month we did not
>>>>>> have one non-0800 outgoing call.  We don't need 100mins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I have voipfone.co.uk. Just pay for the number. Inbound calls free
>>>>> outbound land lines cheap.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> £6/month, if I've read it correctly, is way over my budget.
>>>
>>> You can try it out with a free 056 number, pay as you go. (Unless I am
>>> out of date). I've been doing that for years.
>>
>> No £6/month is for a call package. If you don't mind having an 056
>> number you can just pay for the calls you use. If you want an 01/02
>> number that is £3.00/month + VAT so £3.60
>>
> 
> Thanks, that wasn't clear to me from the website.
> 

I transfered my BT number.

> Next issue is how to have two or more handsets.  We have a Panasonic
> KX-TGC220
> (https://business.currys.co.uk/catalogue/office-supplies/phones-faxes/telephone-handsets/panasonic-kx-tgc220e-cordless-phone-answering-system-with-caller-id-call-waiting-3-way-call-capability/P193954P)
> with 3 handsets.  This is handy and presumably can be attached to a
> new router with an ATA.
> 

Thats how mine is set up...


> But the Panasonic was bought in 2017.  Whilst both my wife and I both
> have mobiles we would only want the home number to ring on them when
> we are at home (ie home wi-fi) if that was an alternative.
>

I have Zen and they supply a Fritz!box 7530AX which I use as my primary 
router and ATA. It has the nice feature that it also acts as a SIP 
server, so it makes one connection to voipfone.co.uk and I have the DECT 
base station connected via the analogue port, a desktop VOIP phone, one 
DECT handset using its DECT server and a remote 7530 (not ax) all 
connected to its SIP server.

The local 7530AX also handles the Voicemail, and is set up to e-mail me 
the voice mail messages.

If you just wanted your mobiles to ring when at home I think you could 
use a similar setup, with something like the zoiper app:-

https://www.zoiper.com/

connected via the Fritz box rather than direct to voipfone...
... then it would only be able to connect when you were at home...

> VOIP phones otherwise seem expensive though ATAs don't seem cheap
> (compared to DECT).
> 

As I said I use the 7530AX as an ATA. You can get the previous version, 
the 7530 without the AX suffix used on E-Bay as many are upgrading to 
the AX model. The main difference is the AX has WiFi 6.

Dave

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#38791

On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 13:09:03 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:

>nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) writes:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 15:03:51 +0000, David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 30/01/2026 13:02, AnthonyL wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 13:53:37 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>>> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> (UTV added)
>>>>> On 2026/1/28 13:7:56, AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>>> Still on FTTC with BT phone but likely to go fully digital (one
>>>>>> way or another) soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are just the two of us in the property and the Panasonic
>>>>>> Answerphone plus 3 handsets works fine.  Very occasional incoming
>>>>>> or outgoing calls but better in many situations than giving out
>>>>>> mobile numbers (eg either one of us can answer the incoming call
>>>>>> if we're home and wouldn't want to be having phone conversations
>>>>>> whilst out and about with those that have the home number).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, looking at options have come across Premitel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.premitel.uk/services/voip-phone-service-uk-homes-and-businesses/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This looks ideal.  Low cost, can port existing number, minor
>>>>>> downside of having also to pay for incoming calls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody used them and any views/opinions/alteratives?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be wary of the have-to-pay-for-incoming, whether per call or
>>>>> per minute; worry about being susceptible to mal-intents (whether
>>>>> they get anything out of it or not).
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Is that a serious worry?  I suppose if they go to voicemail then
>>>> they could try hammering that.  If the call is from an unknown
>>>> number we would likely not answer at all.
>>>> 
>>>> What are the (very) low cost alternatives?  Last month we did not
>>>> have one non-0800 outgoing call.  We don't need 100mins.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>I have voipfone.co.uk. Just pay for the number. Inbound calls free
>>>outbound land lines cheap.
>>>
>>
>> £6/month, if I've read it correctly, is way over my budget.
>
>You can try it out with a free 056 number, pay as you go. (Unless I am
>out of date). I've been doing that for years.

Interesting, thanks, though I was hoping to save effort and retain the
existing BT number.
-- 
AnthonyL

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#38793

nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) writes:

> On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 13:09:03 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 15:03:51 +0000, David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 30/01/2026 13:02, AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 13:53:37 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>>>> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> (UTV added)
>>>>>> On 2026/1/28 13:7:56, AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>>>> Still on FTTC with BT phone but likely to go fully digital (one
>>>>>>> way or another) soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are just the two of us in the property and the Panasonic
>>>>>>> Answerphone plus 3 handsets works fine.  Very occasional
>>>>>>> incoming or outgoing calls but better in many situations than
>>>>>>> giving out mobile numbers (eg either one of us can answer the
>>>>>>> incoming call if we're home and wouldn't want to be having phone
>>>>>>> conversations whilst out and about with those that have the home
>>>>>>> number).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, looking at options have come across Premitel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.premitel.uk/services/voip-phone-service-uk-homes-and-businesses/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This looks ideal.  Low cost, can port existing number, minor
>>>>>>> downside of having also to pay for incoming calls.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anybody used them and any views/opinions/alteratives?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be wary of the have-to-pay-for-incoming, whether per call or
>>>>>> per minute; worry about being susceptible to mal-intents (whether
>>>>>> they get anything out of it or not).
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is that a serious worry?  I suppose if they go to voicemail then
>>>>> they could try hammering that.  If the call is from an unknown
>>>>> number we would likely not answer at all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are the (very) low cost alternatives?  Last month we did not
>>>>> have one non-0800 outgoing call.  We don't need 100mins.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>I have voipfone.co.uk. Just pay for the number. Inbound calls free
>>>>outbound land lines cheap.
>>>>
>>>
>>> £6/month, if I've read it correctly, is way over my budget.
>>
>>You can try it out with a free 056 number, pay as you go. (Unless I am
>>out of date). I've been doing that for years.
>
> Interesting, thanks, though I was hoping to save effort and retain the
> existing BT number.

I meant try it out before you transfer your number.

I used to have Voipfone on my router with one handset on it, which I
used for outgoing calls. And the other handsets connected to the analog
line for incoming calls.

Now I have moved to digital and all my old phones are connected to the
router. You can connect several phones to the same VOIP service using an
RJ11 to BT adaptor and BT splitter. My phones are old DECT base/handsets
and corded phones. But why throw them away and pay £185 for two SIP
handsets? You could buy two smartphones for that much.

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#38795

In uk.telecom.voip Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
> nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) writes:
> >
> > Interesting, thanks, though I was hoping to save effort and retain the
> > existing BT number.
> 
> I meant try it out before you transfer your number.
> 
> I used to have Voipfone on my router with one handset on it, which I
> used for outgoing calls. And the other handsets connected to the analog
> line for incoming calls.
> 
> Now I have moved to digital and all my old phones are connected to the
> router. You can connect several phones to the same VOIP service using an
> RJ11 to BT adaptor and BT splitter. My phones are old DECT base/handsets
> and corded phones. But why throw them away and pay £185 for two SIP
> handsets? You could buy two smartphones for that much.

You can get really quite nice Yealink SIP deskphones from eBay and
such for only £15 or so.  (e.g. a Yealink SIP-T42S)  With most VOIP
services you can connect more than one 'device' so multiple SIP phones
will all work.

-- 
Chris Green
·

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#38799

On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 15:07:18 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:

>nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) writes:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 13:09:03 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>>>nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) writes:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 15:03:51 +0000, David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 30/01/2026 13:02, AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 13:53:37 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>>>>> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (UTV added)
>>>>>>> On 2026/1/28 13:7:56, AnthonyL wrote:
>>>>>>>> Still on FTTC with BT phone but likely to go fully digital (one
>>>>>>>> way or another) soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are just the two of us in the property and the Panasonic
>>>>>>>> Answerphone plus 3 handsets works fine.  Very occasional
>>>>>>>> incoming or outgoing calls but better in many situations than
>>>>>>>> giving out mobile numbers (eg either one of us can answer the
>>>>>>>> incoming call if we're home and wouldn't want to be having phone
>>>>>>>> conversations whilst out and about with those that have the home
>>>>>>>> number).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, looking at options have come across Premitel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.premitel.uk/services/voip-phone-service-uk-homes-and-businesses/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This looks ideal.  Low cost, can port existing number, minor
>>>>>>>> downside of having also to pay for incoming calls.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anybody used them and any views/opinions/alteratives?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be wary of the have-to-pay-for-incoming, whether per call or
>>>>>>> per minute; worry about being susceptible to mal-intents (whether
>>>>>>> they get anything out of it or not).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is that a serious worry?  I suppose if they go to voicemail then
>>>>>> they could try hammering that.  If the call is from an unknown
>>>>>> number we would likely not answer at all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What are the (very) low cost alternatives?  Last month we did not
>>>>>> have one non-0800 outgoing call.  We don't need 100mins.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>I have voipfone.co.uk. Just pay for the number. Inbound calls free
>>>>>outbound land lines cheap.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> £6/month, if I've read it correctly, is way over my budget.
>>>
>>>You can try it out with a free 056 number, pay as you go. (Unless I am
>>>out of date). I've been doing that for years.
>>
>> Interesting, thanks, though I was hoping to save effort and retain the
>> existing BT number.
>
>I meant try it out before you transfer your number.
>
>I used to have Voipfone on my router with one handset on it, which I
>used for outgoing calls. And the other handsets connected to the analog
>line for incoming calls.
>
>Now I have moved to digital and all my old phones are connected to the
>router. You can connect several phones to the same VOIP service using an
>RJ11 to BT adaptor and BT splitter. My phones are old DECT base/handsets
>and corded phones. But why throw them away and pay £185 for two SIP
>handsets? You could buy two smartphones for that much.

My concern was age of the existing unit and then ending up buying
expensive VOIP phones.  

But I've just had another thought - is it practical to just use a
spare mobile as the home phone?  ie the VOIP, using the ported
landline number, comes through on the spare SIMless mobile?  

-- 
AnthonyL

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#38806

On 01/02/2026 21:54, AnthonyL wrote:
> But I've just had another thought - is it practical to just use a
> spare mobile as the home phone?

It's probably possible with an Android, but I don't think you could 
interpose the push sever, that is essential for iPhones, in such an 
environment.  The Android will need the VoIP app set to never sleep.

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#38821

In uk.telecom.voip David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
> On 01/02/2026 21:54, AnthonyL wrote:
> > But I've just had another thought - is it practical to just use a
> > spare mobile as the home phone?
> 
> It's probably possible with an Android, but I don't think you could 
> interpose the push sever, that is essential for iPhones, in such an 
> environment.  The Android will need the VoIP app set to never sleep.

There are paid iOS apps that have their own push server - ie their server
registers with your SIP service, and then sends a push notification to ring
you mobile when you get an incoming call.  Otherwise Apple's powersaving
prevents you receiving calls if your phone is sleeping.

Can anyone recommend a good Android app that does this?  I have Linphone
which sometimes gets one way audio, but haven't spent any time debugging
why.

Theo

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#38822

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:

> In uk.telecom.voip David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> wrote:
>> On 01/02/2026 21:54, AnthonyL wrote:
>> > But I've just had another thought - is it practical to just use a
>> > spare mobile as the home phone?
>> 
>> It's probably possible with an Android, but I don't think you could 
>> interpose the push sever, that is essential for iPhones, in such an 
>> environment.  The Android will need the VoIP app set to never sleep.
>
> There are paid iOS apps that have their own push server - ie their server
> registers with your SIP service, and then sends a push notification to ring
> you mobile when you get an incoming call.  Otherwise Apple's powersaving
> prevents you receiving calls if your phone is sleeping.
>
> Can anyone recommend a good Android app that does this?  I have Linphone
> which sometimes gets one way audio, but haven't spent any time debugging
> why.
>

Voipfone has its own app called Softphone, but I think it was a bit hit
and miss whether it rang.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.uk.voipfone.softphone.android

I found I was able to get Linphone to ring by setting the keep-alive
messages option.

When I had an Iphone many years ago I used Zoiper, but it had some
clause about the free version having no encryption.

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#38779

On 28/01/2026 13:07, AnthonyL wrote:
> Still on FTTC with BT phone but likely to go fully digital (one way or
> another) soon.
> 
> There are just the two of us in the property and the Panasonic
> Answerphone plus 3 handsets works fine.  Very occasional incoming or
> outgoing calls but better in many situations than giving out mobile
> numbers (eg either one of us can answer the incoming call if we're
> home and wouldn't want to be having phone conversations whilst out and
> about with those that have the home number).
> 
> Anyway, looking at options have come across Premitel.
> 
> https://www.premitel.uk/services/voip-phone-service-uk-homes-and-businesses/
> 
> This looks ideal.  Low cost, can port existing number, minor downside
> of having also to pay for incoming calls.
> 
> Anybody used them and any views/opinions/alteratives?
> 
> 

Maybe alternative: https://voiphome.com/
It's PAYG and seems to me to be very low price calls.

For heavier users something else that has monthly packs of minutes might 
be better.

-- 
Brian Gregory (in England).

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