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First post2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
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  ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-15 10:14 +0100
      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-12-15 03:06 -0800
      Re: ww2 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-16 06:50 +0100
    Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-16 21:24 -0800
      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-18 13:42 -0800
        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:34 -0800
          Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 17:16 -0600
        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:48 -0800
          Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 10:08 -0800
            Re: ww3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 11:32 -0700
          Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 00:38 -0800
            Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-27 11:08 -0800
            Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 00:14 -0700
              Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:58 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 04:56 -0800
                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-02 06:43 -0800
                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 22:52 -0500
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-01 15:05 +0000
                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
                    Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-03 09:12 +0000
                      Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-04 07:38 +0100
                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-03 23:40 -0800
                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-05 09:05 +0100
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:38 -0500
                              Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 12:26 -0800
                              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:45 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 00:05 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:33 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:09 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:55 +0100
                                        Re: ww3 Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-09 08:02 +0100
                                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-09 10:01 +0000
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:20 -0500
                                              Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:05 -0500
                                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:35 +0000
                                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 08:57 -0500
                                                  Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 10:57 -0800
                                                    Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 21:35 -0800
                                                      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-16 17:17 -0800
                                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 16:28 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:15 +0100
                                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:53 +0000
                                                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0100
                                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:25 +0000
                                                    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:27 +0100
                                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 10:35 +0000
                                                        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:29 -0600
                                                        Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-20 08:38 +0100
                                                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-20 09:58 +0000
                                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0000
                                                    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:33 +0100
                                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-18 15:58 +0000
                                                        Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-19 07:40 +0100
                                                      Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:35 -0600
                                        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 23:08 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:19 -0500
                                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:32 +0100
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:08 -0500
                                    Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:51 -0600
                                      Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:25 +0100
                                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 23:40 -0800
                                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0100
                                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:26 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 14:32 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:25 -0500
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
                                        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 16:16 -0600
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:18 -0500
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:22 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:12 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:11 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 12:14 -0800
                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:00 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:50 -0800
                          Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:51 -0800
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:25 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:22 +0100
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:31 -0500
                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:33 -0800
                              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:13 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 -0800
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:19 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:39 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:39 -0800
                                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:33 -0500
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:31 -0500
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:21 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:47 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:37 -0500
                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:02 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:34 -0500
                              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:09 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:44 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:49 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100
                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500
                    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100
                      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800
                        Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100
                          Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
                            Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:04 -0800
                              Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 16:07 -0800
                                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:17 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:18 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:20 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:54 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 18:41 -0800
                                      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 20:32 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 21:00 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 17:52 -0800
                                          Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:23 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:55 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:39 -0800
                                                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:45 -0800
                                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 23:02 -0800
                                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:03 -0800
                                                      Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:08 -0800
                                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:11 -0800
                                                          Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:13 -0800
                                                            Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:41 -0800
                                                  Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 07:04 -0800
                                                    Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:27 -0600
                                                      Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:34 -0600
                                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-21 04:52 +0000
                                                        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 23:59 -0600
                                                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-22 06:44 +0000
                                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 11:57 -0800
                                                      Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 13:41 -0800
                                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:55 -0500
                                                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:51 -0500
                                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 13:33 -0800
                                                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:05 -0500
                                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 20:56 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-19 20:49 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:36 -0800
                              Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:41 -0600
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:25 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 22:46 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:18 -0700
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:44 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:56 -0500
                      Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-07 11:23 -0800
                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 13:24 -0800
                        Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:48 +0100
                          Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:56 -0600
                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:35 -0500
                      Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0700
                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-12 23:06 -0800
                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-13 10:46 +0000
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:11 -0500
                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 02:23 +0000
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:09 -0500
                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 03:15 +0000
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 21:27 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:26 +0000
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:25 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 15:32 +0000
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 16:57 -0500
                                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 02:21 +0000
                                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:24 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 16:36 +0000
                                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 19:08 -0800
                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 05:21 +0000
                                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 21:44 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:28 -0600
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:40 -0500
                                          Re: ww3 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0500
                                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 22:02 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 00:10 -0500
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:36 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 14:50 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0800
                                          Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:11 -0800
                          Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:12 -0700
                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:00 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 12:53 -0800
                            Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:10 -0700
                          Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:15 -0700
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:45 -0500
                              Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:47 -0800
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:58 -0500
        Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-21 05:48 +0000
          Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 14:35 -0600
            Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-22 05:39 +0000
              Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 02:50 -0600
    Re: ww3 patdolan@comcast.net (patdolan) - 2025-01-19 03:01 +0000
      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800

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#890562

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Message-ID<361dnj13lmcntg24d923tt5e0an0tdvsh7@4ax.com>
In reply to#890555
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:05:18 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
wrote:

>Chaps are too stupid to know when they are licked.

Russia?

I agree.

NP:  Go West - Never Let Them See You Sweat
-- 
Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did.  Get over it.

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#890568

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-01-03 09:12 +0000
Message-ID<b76cdc0f0bd886cd0b053322a028539b@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#890562
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:21:56 +0000, Governor Swill wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:05:18 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
> (Bertietaylor)
> wrote:
>
>>Chaps are too stupid to know when they are licked.
>
> Russia?
>
> I agree.

Because Zelensky has driven them out of Donetsk and is now going to
liberate Crimea with F16, Himars, Abrams, and many billions?

Only the terminally stupid can believe that.

Crows have more sense than apes.
>
> NP:  Go West - Never Let Them See You Sweat

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#890569

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-04 07:38 +0100
Message-ID<lts3a1Fgih9U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890568
Am Freitag000003, 03.01.2025 um 10:12 schrieb Bertietaylor:
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:21:56 +0000, Governor Swill wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:05:18 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
>> (Bertietaylor)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Chaps are too stupid to know when they are licked.
>>
>> Russia?
>>
>> I agree.
> 
> Because Zelensky has driven them out of Donetsk and is now going to
> liberate Crimea with F16, Himars, Abrams, and many billions?
> 
> Only the terminally stupid can believe that.

The Russians have a good strategic position in that conflict and the 
Nato has a terrible one.

The Russians have dug defense lines all over the place and can support 
them from their home territory easily, while Nato troops had to walk all 
the way from Poland to eastern Ukraine, which is more then 1000 km.

Ships were usually preferred by the west, especially aircraft carriers. 
But since the Black Sea is entirely in the reach of Russian missiles, 
the USA cannot send their precious fleet there.

Flight is also not recommended, since Russia has state of the art air 
defense.

This would leave only land transport as feasible.

Unfortunately Ukraine is very large and VERY flat, hence Nato-troops 
walking in from Poland had no protection whatsoever.

To make matters worse:

Russia was the main part of a country formerly known as 'USSR'. And that 
country was a little paranoid about western invaders.

So Stalin and others left (most likely) some hidden facilities in the 
Ukraine, for which (most likely) Russia has still the keys.

The entire country Ukraine is (most likely) full of Russian spies, 
because Russian is and was a common language there and the FSB could 
simply send anybody there with nothing more than a false passport.

My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of 
the Ukrainian military.

This makes everything really dangerous for Western troops, while the 
Russians could simply sit and wait.


TH

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#890570

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
Date2025-01-03 23:40 -0800
Message-ID<vlaolg$cahb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#890569
Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Because Zelensky has driven them out of Donetsk and is now going to
>> liberate Crimea with F16, Himars, Abrams, and many billions?
>>
>> Only the terminally stupid can believe that.

And the American colonies were laughed off the continent at the 
silly idea of defeating the world's super power.

> The Russians have a good strategic position in that conflict and 
> the Nato has a terrible one.

NATO has no position. It is not fighting.

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#890571

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-05 09:05 +0100
Message-ID<ltusp5Fu9fjU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890570
Am Samstag000004, 04.01.2025 um 08:40 schrieb Siri Cruise:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Because Zelensky has driven them out of Donetsk and is now going to
>>> liberate Crimea with F16, Himars, Abrams, and many billions?
>>>
>>> Only the terminally stupid can believe that.
> 
> And the American colonies were laughed off the continent at the silly 
> idea of defeating the world's super power.
> 
>> The Russians have a good strategic position in that conflict and the 
>> Nato has a terrible one.
> 
> NATO has no position. It is not fighting.
> 

Well, we have actually a 'proxy war', which is seemingly financed by 
western powers and maintained by Ukrainians and Russians (plus solders 
of fortune from various countries).

Now the Russians are the dominant power in this conflict, because 
Russian military is many times stronger that the Ukrainian.

This will not change in the immediate future, if no Nato troops would 
engage into that conflict, too.

I was writing about the hypothetical possibility, that this could happen.

In THAT case Nato forces would need to reach the front line in the 
eastern  Ukraine somehow.

I meant, that Russian missiles, submarines, mines and other weapons 
could easily destroy US carriers and other ships, once they try to come 
through the Bosporous.

The only alternative to the Black Sea would be the Baltic Sea.

But that is too narrow, too shallow and in the reach of Russian missiles 
in the Kaliningrad district. It is also too far away.

This would exclude support of Nato troops by ships, what would leave 
only land and air-transport.

Flight is fast, but would be VERY dangerous, since Russia has very good 
anti-aircraft missiles, jet-fighters and other means.

This would leave only land transport and marching infantry, supported by 
tanks.

But: the Ukraine is VERY large and VERY flat.

This would make walking there really dangerous, too, because the 
landscape provides no protection at all.

The Russians have also an insane amount of tanks (and other armored 
vehicles) and are essentially a 'land-fighting-nation'.

So: there is actually no feasible way to bring Nato troops to the front, 
supposed that is wanted.

TH

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#890575

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-05 14:38 -0500
Message-ID<vpllnj13e9i93j5e1ldvv2t6g4ph0m1vet@4ax.com>
In reply to#890571
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 09:05:20 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

>Am Samstag000004, 04.01.2025 um 08:40 schrieb Siri Cruise:
>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> Because Zelensky has driven them out of Donetsk and is now going to
>>>> liberate Crimea with F16, Himars, Abrams, and many billions?
>>>>
>>>> Only the terminally stupid can believe that.
>> 
>> And the American colonies were laughed off the continent at the silly 
>> idea of defeating the world's super power.
>> 
>>> The Russians have a good strategic position in that conflict and the 
>>> Nato has a terrible one.
>> 
>> NATO has no position. It is not fighting.
>> 
>
>Well, we have actually a 'proxy war', which is seemingly financed by 
>western powers and maintained by Ukrainians and Russians (plus solders 
>of fortune from various countries).
>
>Now the Russians are the dominant power in this conflict, because 
>Russian military is many times stronger that the Ukrainian.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Is that why Putin's two week 'speshul operashun'
has been dragging in for three years?  Is that why he's reinforcing his lines
with North Korean troops who barely know which end of the gun to hold let alone
what to aim at?

"Russian paramilitary soldiers killed in friendly fire attack by North Koreans
after enlisting DPRK help"
<https://nypost.com/2024/12/16/world-news/russian-paramilitary-soldiers-killed-in-friendly-fire-attack-by-north-koreans-after-enlisting-dprk-help/>

>This will not change in the immediate future, if no Nato troops would 
>engage into that conflict, too.

Ukraine is proving you don't need NATO troops, you just need superior western
weapons.

>I was writing about the hypothetical possibility, that this could happen.
>
>In THAT case Nato forces would need to reach the front line in the 
>eastern  Ukraine somehow.

Airplanes, trains, trucks or they could just open a few new fronts in Finland,
Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland.  Embargo all Russian sea traffic from the
Baltic to the Pacific.  The French Navy alone is stronger than Russia's!

Only an idiot would expect NATO to lose to Russia.

>I meant, that Russian missiles, submarines, 

You mean their convertibles?  LOL!  The Russian Navy is another joke.  Perhaps
the biggest military joke on the planet.  And their missiles don't work.

>mines and other weapons 
>could easily destroy US carriers and other ships, once they try to come 
>through the Bosporous.

LOL!  The Russian Navy is hiding in the Sea of Azov and dares not come into the
Black Sea.  Turkey and Romania have already neutralized Russians attempts to
mine Ukraine's trade routes.

Then there is the efficacy of Russian weapons.

*laugh, laugh, laugh*  

Russia has already proved their best weapons are easily dealt with using western
countermeasures.  Meanwhile, Russian air defense can't stop Ukraine from
striking Moscow, blowing up oil refineries all over western Russia, barracks and
military headquarters building throughout the south and S-400 systems in Crimea,
Belgorod and Rostov-on-Don using their OWN weapons.  Turns out they didn't need
the ATACMS after all.

>The only alternative to the Black Sea would be the Baltic Sea.

... which is a NATO lake which, in the event of a NATO conflict, would be
quickly swept clean of Russian traffic.

>But that is too narrow, too shallow and in the reach of Russian missiles 
>in the Kaliningrad district. It is also too far away.

Putin has stripped Kaliningrad of it's defense systems to shore up his failures
in Ukraine.  A NATO war with Russia would result in an independent Kaliningrad
joining NATO in a few years as "Konigsburg".  And you seem to be unaware that
NATO is already moving troops into the Baltic and Polish fronts.

>This would exclude support of Nato troops by ships, what would leave 
>only land and air-transport.

The west has plenty of planes and trucks.  Western navies could easily deliver
troops via the Baltic to the new war fronts in Finland and the Baltics.

>Flight is fast, but would be VERY dangerous, since Russia has very good 
>anti-aircraft missiles, jet-fighters and other means.

*laugh, laugh, laugh*  Yeah, their anti aircraft defenses are so good they can't
handle all Ukraine's homemade drones, even the ones over flying Moscow.  Their
jets and other planes are so vulnerable, Putin doesn't allow them to over fly
Ukrainian airspace.  

Putin has 32 "stealth" fighters, ten of which are prototypes.  NATO has hundreds
of F-35s out of the 1000 that have been built and that doesn't count the US
fleet of F-22s, B-2s and B-1s.

The US has obsoleted more models of stealth aircraft than Russia has ever
possessed.

>This would leave only land transport and marching infantry, supported by 
>tanks.
>
>But: the Ukraine is VERY large and VERY flat.
>
>This would make walking there really dangerous, too, because the 
>landscape provides no protection at all.

A fact the Russians are very aware of.  LOL!

>The Russians have also an insane amount of tanks (and other armored 
>vehicles)

Not anymore, they don't.

> and are essentially a 'land-fighting-nation'.

They're essentially a bunch of corrupt yellow bellies.

>So: there is actually no feasible way to bring Nato troops to the front, 
>supposed that is wanted.

Is this Mighty, poking his head up to spout his Russian propaganda bullshit
again?

-- 
Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did.  Get over it.

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#890579

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
Date2025-01-05 12:26 -0800
Message-ID<vlepu8$16o98$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#890575
Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 09:05:20 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Is that why Putin's two week 'speshul operashun'
> has been dragging in for three years?  Is that why he's reinforcing his lines
> with North Korean troops who barely know which end of the gun to hold let alone
> what to aim at?

If it comes down to trading body for body, Russia has more future 
cadavers. The question is how many dead sons and husbands will 
Russia tolerate. The next tsar has no incentive to continue 
Putin's folly.

> "Russian paramilitary soldiers killed in friendly fire attack by North Koreans
> after enlisting DPRK help"

I wonder if Kim thought this out. Outside DPRK the soldiers are 
being exposed to the wonders of the West. Like internet porn. 
Their families are held hostage, but even if they come home, they 
are going to talk about the wonders they beheld, like electric 
lights at night and 3000 calorie meals.

>> In THAT case Nato forces would need to reach the front line in the
>> eastern  Ukraine somehow.
> 
> Airplanes, trains, trucks or they could just open a few new fronts in Finland,
> Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland.  Embargo all Russian sea traffic from the
> Baltic to the Pacific.  The French Navy alone is stronger than Russia's!

NATO has plans to move French and German armies to the Baltic 
states and Poland. I think Ukraine is in reach.

> You mean their convertibles?  LOL!  The Russian Navy is another joke.  Perhaps
> the biggest military joke on the planet.  And their missiles don't work.

Drachinifel made two videos about the Russian Baltic fleet 
attacking Japan (Voyage of the Damned).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mdi_Fh9_Ag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpj6nK5ylo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95oBKLODE0
The Russian Navy Sucks Supercut (Parts 1-6)
History of Everything

'And then it got worse.'

>> This would exclude support of Nato troops by ships, what would leave
>> only land and air-transport.
> 
> The west has plenty of planes and trucks.  Western navies could easily deliver
> troops via the Baltic to the new war fronts in Finland and the Baltics.

NATO has always assumed that in war reinforcements would come from 
the USA, Canada, Norway, France, etc. It has had sixty years to 
worry the details.

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#890583

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-07 06:45 +0100
Message-ID<lu3tb8FphgoU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890575
Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:38 schrieb Governor Swill:

>>>> The Russians have a good strategic position in that conflict and the
>>>> Nato has a terrible one.
>>>
>>> NATO has no position. It is not fighting.
>>>
>>
>> Well, we have actually a 'proxy war', which is seemingly financed by
>> western powers and maintained by Ukrainians and Russians (plus solders
>> of fortune from various countries).
>>
>> Now the Russians are the dominant power in this conflict, because
>> Russian military is many times stronger that the Ukrainian.
> 
> BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Is that why Putin's two week 'speshul operashun'
> has been dragging in for three years?  Is that why he's reinforcing his lines
> with North Korean troops who barely know which end of the gun to hold let alone
> what to aim at?
> 
> "Russian paramilitary soldiers killed in friendly fire attack by North Koreans
> after enlisting DPRK help"
> <https://nypost.com/2024/12/16/world-news/russian-paramilitary-soldiers-killed-in-friendly-fire-attack-by-north-koreans-after-enlisting-dprk-help/>
> 
>> This will not change in the immediate future, if no Nato troops would
>> engage into that conflict, too.
> 
> Ukraine is proving you don't need NATO troops, you just need superior western
> weapons.
> 
>> I was writing about the hypothetical possibility, that this could happen.
>>
>> In THAT case Nato forces would need to reach the front line in the
>> eastern  Ukraine somehow.
> 
> Airplanes, trains, trucks or they could just open a few new fronts in Finland,
> Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland.  Embargo all Russian sea traffic from the
> Baltic to the Pacific.  The French Navy alone is stronger than Russia's!
> 
> Only an idiot would expect NATO to lose to Russia.


The Russians are not attacking the NATO.

Now the Russians have dug defense lines and wait there for western troops.

Such western troops would need to attack these entrenched forces, hence 
Russians defend and Nato had to win an attack, supposed they wanted to 
do that.

But the expectacions are rather chilling, since the Russians are already 
there and have dug themselves in and wait.

This is a VERY unfortunate situation, supposed the Nato wanted to push 
the Russians out of weatern Ukraine.


Difficult is, that Russia has all sorts of armour already in place, 
while Nato had to bring its gear half around the globe.

This is extremely dangerous, because Russian controlled territory 
surrounds the possible 'arena' in the eastern Ukraine.

This would enable the Russians to encircle large parts of a western 
chorps there (kind of 'New Stalingrad').

The only real advantage of the west are far reaching drones and missiles.

But these cannot conquer a country, only damage it.

That's why ground forces are necessary.


>> I meant, that Russian missiles, submarines,
> 
> You mean their convertibles?  LOL!  The Russian Navy is another joke.  Perhaps
> the biggest military joke on the planet.  And their missiles don't work.
> 
>> mines and other weapons
>> could easily destroy US carriers and other ships, once they try to come
>> through the Bosporous.
> 
> LOL!  The Russian Navy is hiding in the Sea of Azov and dares not come into the
> Black Sea.  Turkey and Romania have already neutralized Russians attempts to
> mine Ukraine's trade routes.


Sure.

But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case 
there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.

...


TH

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#890586

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
Date2025-01-07 00:05 -0800
Message-ID<vlin83$242rt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#890583
Thomas Heger wrote:
> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in 
> case there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.

NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.

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#890599

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-08 08:33 +0100
Message-ID<lu6o31F90rcU11@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890586
Am Dienstag000007, 07.01.2025 um 09:05 schrieb Siri Cruise:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case 
>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.
> 
> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
> 

Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.

Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.

I would guess, that Russia has enough missiles already positioned on the 
Crimean peninsula to sink all western boats with the push on a single 
button.

TH

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#890607

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-08 15:09 -0500
Message-ID<vpmtnj9hfdcmfc76ejlfiq60cf8g8p3aqo@4ax.com>
In reply to#890599
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 08:33:58 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

>Am Dienstag000007, 07.01.2025 um 09:05 schrieb Siri Cruise:
>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case 
>>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.
>> 
>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>> 
>
>Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>
>Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.

Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass kicked now.

>I would guess, that Russia has enough missiles already positioned on the 
>Crimean peninsula to sink all western boats with the push on a single 
>button.

More likely they'll explode in their silos - if anybody can remember which
button to push.

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#890620

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-09 07:55 +0100
Message-ID<lu9a6pFm4jfU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890607
Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:09 schrieb Governor Swill:

>>>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case
>>>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.
>>>
>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>>>
>>
>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>>
>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
> 
> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass kicked now.

Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war 
with Russia- mostly very miserably.

Germans are essentially scared by the bare possibility, that anything 
similar might happen again.

Actually German have more a tendency to cooperate with Russia if 
possible and do not really want to 'kick asses'.

The country most Germans dislike in this conflict is actually the Ukraine.

This is so, because the Ukraine was regarded as one of the most corrupt 
countries on this planet and essentially ruled by the mob.

At least I think so. The reason is, that I have lived some time together 
with a lady from Lvow, who was sold by the mob to a German for several 
thousand dollars.

This why I think about this country as the pinnacle of failure of states.
> 
>> I would guess, that Russia has enough missiles already positioned on the
>> Crimean peninsula to sink all western boats with the push on a single
>> button.
> 
> More likely they'll explode in their silos - if anybody can remember which
> button to push.

Possible, but highly unlikely.

As far as I can tell, the Russians know how to handle their arms.

TH

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#890621

FromMaciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-01-09 08:02 +0100
Message-ID<1818f42e15c46bfc$78366$1329657$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#890620
W dniu 09.01.2025 o 07:55, Thomas Heger pisze:
> Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:09 schrieb Governor Swill:
> 
>>>>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case
>>>>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.
>>>>
>>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>>>
>>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
>>
>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass 
>> kicked now.
> 
> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war 
> with Russia- mostly very miserably.


Bullshit, in 1ww Germany beat Russia and forced
to  a separate peace.

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#890623

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-01-09 10:01 +0000
Message-ID<8e3887dbf2adfb5b5bce0dae06bbd3c1@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#890621
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 7:02:16 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

> W dniu 09.01.2025 o 07:55, Thomas Heger pisze:
>> Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:09 schrieb Governor Swill:
>>
>>>>>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case
>>>>>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.
>>>>>
>>>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>>>>
>>>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
>>>
>>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass
>>> kicked now.
>>
>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
>> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
>
>
> Bullshit, in 1ww Germany beat Russia and forced
> to  a separate peace.

True but a century earlier they thrashed the French. They also got lands
from Persia and reduced Poland and Lithuania. Lands from China and
Japan. Beat up Sweden, expanded South. They are big for a reason and
getting 12% of Ukraine is thin icing on the cake. Putin's main success
is political having China and thirdworld support and now buddy Trumpo in
power.

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#890629

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-10 01:20 -0500
Message-ID<31f1oj585tk2ou401s7bh2gjeqkmp6hhf7@4ax.com>
In reply to#890623
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 10:01:25 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
wrote:

>True but a century earlier they thrashed the French. They also got lands
>from Persia and reduced Poland and Lithuania. Lands from China and
>Japan. Beat up Sweden, expanded South. They are big for a reason and
>getting 12% of Ukraine is thin icing on the cake. Putin's main success
>is political having China and thirdworld support and now buddy Trumpo in
>power.

And where are all those gains now?

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#890653

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-11 19:05 -0500
Message-ID<lo16oj595hkf93trmjpo0uhjdh0rldv55a@4ax.com>
In reply to#890629
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 01:20:53 -0500, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 10:01:25 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
>wrote:
>
>>True but a century earlier they thrashed the French. They also got lands
>>from Persia and reduced Poland and Lithuania. Lands from China and
>>Japan. Beat up Sweden, expanded South. They are big for a reason and
>>getting 12% of Ukraine is thin icing on the cake. Putin's main success
>>is political having China and thirdworld support and now buddy Trumpo in
>>power.
>
>And where are all those gains now?

<crickets>

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#890679

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-01-14 08:35 +0000
Message-ID<913fcf6fe29082741b66980a7fe8dedf@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#890629
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 6:20:53 +0000, Governor Swill wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 10:01:25 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
> (Bertietaylor)
> wrote:
>
>>True but a century earlier they thrashed the French. They also got lands
>>from Persia and reduced Poland and Lithuania. Lands from China and
>>Japan. Beat up Sweden, expanded South. They are big for a reason and
>>getting 12% of Ukraine is thin icing on the cake. Putin's main success
>>is political having China and thirdworld support and now buddy Trumpo in
>>power.
>
> And where are all those gains now?
See the current map of Ukraine and that before the reoccupation of
Crimea. Some 12 trillion dollars of prime real estate.

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#890682

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-15 08:57 -0500
Message-ID<7affojdfm6ai2rvh94rl093b9c8blv10uq@4ax.com>
In reply to#890679
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:35:49 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 6:20:53 +0000, Governor Swill wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 10:01:25 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
>> (Bertietaylor)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>True but a century earlier they thrashed the French. They also got lands
>>>from Persia and reduced Poland and Lithuania. Lands from China and
>>>Japan. Beat up Sweden, expanded South. They are big for a reason and
>>>getting 12% of Ukraine is thin icing on the cake. Putin's main success
>>>is political having China and thirdworld support and now buddy Trumpo in
>>>power.
>>
>> And where are all those gains now?
>See the current map of Ukraine and that before the reoccupation of
>Crimea. Some 12 trillion dollars of prime real estate.

Their Navy, such as it now is, can't use the Sevastopol port because Ukraine has
cowed it.

The cities and industrial centers in the east that Putin wanted, have been, in
many cases, 100% destroyed and will have to be rebuilt from scratch.

He expended 200,000 Russian men taking Bakhmut and Avdiivka.  Another 50,000
failing to retake Kharkiv.  Three quarters of a million Russia dead and maimed
so far to steal a wasteland.  

Ukraine controls Crimea's water supply.  Without it, Crimea is useless.

Putin is still refusing to accept Trump's offer for talks.

He hasn't been hurt enough yet.

NP:  Carly Simon - That's The Way I've Always Heard It Should Be

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#890689

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-01-15 10:57 -0800
Message-ID<67880503.130@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#890682
Governor Swill wrote:

> Putin is still refusing to accept Trump's offer for talks.

At the present time, Trump is not the president of the united states of
america yet...


Only Biden can accept or refuse talks with Putin.


Biden is President of the United States.

Kamala Harris, is the Vice President.


I don't don't what state Governor Swill is of...


i need to google googala it!



git wit da program!


It's not Monday...yet.


not soon enough for you...GOV-VEE-NOOOOOR?



who da fuck voted for you any way??? AOC? 




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#890694

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-01-15 21:35 -0800
Message-ID<67889A93.128@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#890689
i don't see any indication that Russia will ever use nucluer weapons on
anyone...





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