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  Updated crackpot index? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-08 14:46 -0500
    Re: Updated crackpot index? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-08 14:13 -0600
    Re: Updated crackpot index? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-12-08 20:53 +0000
      Re: Updated crackpot index? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-08 16:18 -0500
    Re: Updated crackpot index? Stephan Russo <ptrp@susnon.sr> - 2022-12-08 20:58 +0000
      Note to Volney (was Re: Updated crackpot index?) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-08 18:15 -0600
        Re: Note to Volney (was Re: Updated crackpot index?) Hanoi Cuocco <ouco@ocaoch.ho> - 2022-12-09 14:35 +0000
          Re: Note to Volney (was Re: Updated crackpot index?) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-09 10:59 -0600
    Re: Updated crackpot index? Stephan Russo <ptrp@susnon.sr> - 2022-12-08 21:00 +0000
    Re: Updated crackpot index? Hanoi Cuocco <ouco@ocaoch.ho> - 2022-12-09 21:02 +0000
      Re: Updated crackpot index? Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-12-10 10:57 -0800
        Re: Updated crackpot index? Lou Abatangelo <lbta@aooutala.nl> - 2022-12-10 20:28 +0000
          Re: Updated crackpot index? Lou Abatangelo <lbta@aooutala.nl> - 2022-12-10 21:19 +0000
            Re: Updated crackpot index? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-10 16:18 -0600
              Re: Updated crackpot index? Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-12-10 14:42 -0800
                Re: Updated crackpot index? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-10 17:59 -0600
                  Re: Updated crackpot index? Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-12-12 13:07 -0800
                    Re: Updated crackpot index? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-12 15:49 -0600
            Re: Updated crackpot index? Lou Abatangelo <lbta@aooutala.nl> - 2022-12-10 22:57 +0000
          Re: Updated crackpot index? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-10 16:16 -0600
          Re: Updated crackpot index? Smokey Abbiati <asbk@atmakb.ai> - 2022-12-11 18:21 +0000
            Re: Updated crackpot index? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2022-12-11 10:40 -0800
            Re: Updated crackpot index? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-11 13:44 -0600
              Re: Updated crackpot index? Smokey Abbiati <asbk@atmakb.ai> - 2022-12-11 21:37 +0000
                Re: Updated crackpot index? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-11 16:07 -0600
            Re: Updated crackpot index? Darron Riva <orvd@raria.ar> - 2022-12-12 16:28 +0000
              Re: Updated crackpot index? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-12 13:41 -0600
        Re: Updated crackpot index? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-12-10 18:08 -0500
          Re: Updated crackpot index? Lou Abatangelo <lbta@aooutala.nl> - 2022-12-10 23:33 +0000
            Re: Updated crackpot index? Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-12-12 14:27 -0800
          Re: Updated crackpot index? Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-12-10 15:54 -0800
    Re: Updated crackpot index? Lou Abatangelo <lbta@aooutala.nl> - 2022-12-10 23:22 +0000
    Re: Updated crackpot index? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2022-12-11 14:17 -0800
      Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-12-11 22:56 -0500
        Kate Heinzelman of CIA does Kibo Parry M. necrophilia extend over into roadkill and carcass fucking? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2022-12-11 20:46 -0800
    Re: Updated crackpot index? Darron Riva <orvd@raria.ar> - 2022-12-12 18:43 +0000
    Re: Updated crackpot index? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-18 14:53 -0500
      Re: Updated crackpot index? Vitaliy Bazzoli <zvt@viavzl.oi> - 2022-12-18 20:41 +0000
      Re: Updated crackpot index? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-22 09:29 +0100
        Re: Updated crackpot index? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-23 02:00 -0500
          Re: Updated crackpot index? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-12-23 02:56 -0800
          Re: Updated crackpot index? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-24 09:57 +0100
            Re: Updated crackpot index? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-24 15:32 -0500
              Re: Updated crackpot index? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-25 11:17 +0100
                Re: Updated crackpot index? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-12-26 14:10 -0500
                  Re: Updated crackpot index? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-27 09:36 +0100
                    Re: Updated crackpot index? Thurman De palma <eaan@phapremr.an> - 2022-12-27 13:57 +0000
                    Re: Updated crackpot index? Emmet Robustelli <uttl@etlmms.re> - 2022-12-29 21:28 +0000
              Re: Updated crackpot index? Luigi Tumicelli <llei@cumiicli.lu> - 2023-01-09 09:04 +0000
    Re: Updated crackpot index? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-12-21 17:44 -0800
    Re: Updated crackpot index? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2022-12-24 13:05 -0800

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#865771 — Updated crackpot index?

Many people score crank posts according to John Baez's Crackpot Index 
(https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html). But it's almost a 
quarter century old. I've been thinking of updating it, since cranks 
have come up with many novel techniques since 1998 that are not listed. 
For example, using crackpot-only words and phrases, for example 
"Einsteinian" and "relativist", usually intended to insult scientists.

Is this worth doing?
Should I take the existing crackpot index and simply add to it?
Should any of its original entries be changed, even if only the points?
Should I redo this in a completely different format? If so, suggestions?
Should point scores apply to individual posts or the poster overall?

In any case, full credit will be given to Baez for the original.


Do you have suggestions for added entries, plus point scores for each?

Example additions, exact phrasing and points not yet determined:

People who agree with an argument promoted by an expert are "worshiping" 
him, are brainwashed, indoctrinated, or are parrots.

Silence is consent: "I notice that there are no comments on my 
manifesto. That means that you all agree with it!"

"Physics is a religion/cult!"

References to things like "Old Biology" (textbook standard biology) and 
"New Biology" (the crank's version of biology including bizarre changes, 
the crank believes his version is or will be accepted)

Expand Baez's Item #21: "I won a Nobel Prize for my discovery" when they 
didn't.
Less delusional: "I should have won a Nobel Prize for my discovery."
Sour grapes: "The Nobel Prize is worthless"/"the committee awarding it 
is corrupt", etc. because they didn't win a Nobel.
"I was offered the Nobel Prize but I turned it down because it's worthless."


I want to keep this generic, otherwise it may become relativity/Einstein 
specific or creationism specific. Also certain behavior unique to only 
one crank probably shouldn't be included.

I set followups to sci.physics.

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#865773

On 12/8/2022 1:46 PM, Volney wrote:
> Many people score crank posts according to John Baez's Crackpot Index 
> (https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html). But it's almost a 
> quarter century old. I've been thinking of updating it, since cranks 
> have come up with many novel techniques since 1998 that are not listed. 
> For example, using crackpot-only words and phrases, for example 
> "Einsteinian" and "relativist", usually intended to insult scientists.
> 
> Is this worth doing?

Probably.

> Should I take the existing crackpot index and simply add to it?

Yes, expand unless you can come up with a set of more generic sorts of
claims that cover all the territory. While it is clear that Baez was
brilliant I think his list was a product of frustration and suffered for
it. One should not think the Baez work was not enjoyable in context. On
the other hand one should realize that most (if not all) the cranks in 
these newsgroups suffer from significant mental illness. So the end
product should be about the claims, not the individuals.

> Should any of its original entries be changed, even if only the points?
> Should I redo this in a completely different format? If so, suggestions?
> Should point scores apply to individual posts or the poster overall?

Following Baez in this effort I think you should make it your own work,
whatever that turns out to be, while retaining the enjoyment aspects
of the original as much as possible.


> In any case, full credit will be given to Baez for the original.
> 
> 
> Do you have suggestions for added entries, plus point scores for each?
> 
> Example additions, exact phrasing and points not yet determined:
> 
> People who agree with an argument promoted by an expert are "worshiping" 
> him, are brainwashed, indoctrinated, or are parrots.

You might point out that some canned replies aren't worth honorable
mention.


> Silence is consent: "I notice that there are no comments on my 
> manifesto. That means that you all agree with it!"
> 
> "Physics is a religion/cult!"
> 
> References to things like "Old Biology" (textbook standard biology) and 
> "New Biology" (the crank's version of biology including bizarre changes, 
> the crank believes his version is or will be accepted)
> 
> Expand Baez's Item #21: "I won a Nobel Prize for my discovery" when they 
> didn't.
> Less delusional: "I should have won a Nobel Prize for my discovery."
> Sour grapes: "The Nobel Prize is worthless"/"the committee awarding it 
> is corrupt", etc. because they didn't win a Nobel.
> "I was offered the Nobel Prize but I turned it down because it's 
> worthless."
> 
> 
> I want to keep this generic, otherwise it may become relativity/Einstein 
> specific or creationism specific. Also certain behavior unique to only 
> one crank probably shouldn't be included.



I think it pays to be discipline (but not subdiscipline) specific.


> I set followups to sci.physics.

I reset followups to both physics and relativity as I think both groups
benefit from this effort. Thanks.

Please be sure to work in some sort of generic while clearly
narcissistic claims. You could probably cover a lot of ground
that way without enlarging the text. After all, we don't want
a Britannica sized work for this task.

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#865775

Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> writes:

> I set followups to sci.physics.

I'd ask why, but then I would not see your reply!  Just pointing out
that posting to several groups and setting followups to one will limit
comments from people with good netiquette.

-- 
Ben.

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#865780

On 12/8/2022 3:53 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> writes:
> 
>> I set followups to sci.physics.
> 
> I'd ask why, but then I would not see your reply!  Just pointing out
> that posting to several groups and setting followups to one will limit
> comments from people with good netiquette.
> 

It was generally considered good netiquette to set followups to the 
"best" group when crossposting to multiple groups. But in this case I 
guess there really isn't a "best" group, go ahead and ignore the 
Followup-To:.

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#865776

Volney wrote:

> Many people score crank posts according to John Baez's Crackpot Index
> (https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html). But it's almost a
> quarter century old. I've been thinking of updating it, since cranks
> have come up with many novel techniques since 1998 that are not listed.
> For example, using crackpot-only words and phrases, for example
> "Einsteinian" and "relativist", usually intended to insult scientists.

nonsense. You have been eating human meat for decades now, in capitalism, 
thinking it was pig meat. Therefore the capitalism killed communism by 
intent feeding you with deceased people's meat.

do you see any pig around here, no. Therefore you are eating human flesh. 
Fucks know how many people you ate already. Proofs.

https://humanmeatproject.com/human-meat-as-food-source/

Human Meat Donation Mission and Vision

In order to save the planet from the impact of our modern civilization and 
lifestyle, we have to make a change in our ideas about consumption and our 
dietary choices.

We face climate change due to waste, pollution, deforestation and 
overpopulation problems.

By donating your body for human consumption, you are taking direct action 
to help others and lessen the damage of the industrial age.

By consuming human meat, we create a change in both our life and the 
world. By improving the standard quality of life in every country and 
nation, we can give everyone in the world a good life.

Human Meat Nutrition Facts

One body can feed up to 40 people*
*An average adult male 65kg, only meat

Human meat often understated for its nutritions, human meat protein and 
fat density could have the same or better than other convenient meat 
product like beef, chicken and pork.

As omnivore, *human_meat_taste* and texture is similar to *_pork_*, not to 
mention the quality could be more substantial(depending on Quality of Life 
ratings).

One body contains every essential amino, minerals and vitamins needed for 
daily intake.
Not only one body could feed up to 40 people, it also the most attainable 
resource for meat and fat consumption.

Human meat is cruelty and slaughter free

Quality Control

How we Select our Donors

We make sure our donors are healthy, and without any contagious diseases, 
health issues, or medications or substances which might be absorbed by 
people who consume their meat.

Health Risk

Donors who have medical conditions such as AIDS/HIV, Creutzfeldt-Jakob 
disease (CJD), hepatitis (HAV/HBV/HCV/HDV/HEV), cancer, tuberculosis, or 
rabies will be rejected in order to prevent risk to the consumer.

There are also other medical condition that might prevent donors from 
being accepted, such as diabetes, hormone treatments or mental disorders.

Rejected Donation

In case of rejected donation:

If a donor has any medical condition that can be transferred human to 
human, they cannot be a donor.

If a donor has an active cancer, they cannot donate up until the time the 
cancer has gone into remission or been removed and will have to wait a 
minimum of one year after the last treatment or procedure. If a donor has 
a partial remission, they will have to wait a minimum of one year after 
the procedure and will go through a medical check up to ensure no 
medications remain in the body. If a donor has gone through full remission 
after one year, they can be a human meat donor.

Quality of Life

Quality of Life is a rating system of human meat quality.

Every donor that has gone through our quality control procedure and 
assessment will be rated based on the quality of their life (health and 
wellness).

About Us

Welcome to the Human Meat Project, we are the human meat donation program. 
By donating bodies for human consumption, we are taking action to solve 
overpopulation, which leads to climate change and the greenhouse effect 
caused by the mass farming of livestock animals in order to feed the 
world.

At Human Meat Project, we value every body and every life.

We emphasize the source and origins of our human meat to deliver the 
diversity of our world and reveal the worrying differences of quality of 
life across the globe.

Our organization welcomes every nation to give back to the rest of the 
world. Hand in hand, we can help each other improve living conditions and 
the environment for everyone through this global movement.

We are calling you, humans, to wake up and take action now. We are not 
living individually and alone. We need each others to survive. Together we 
can create a world worth living for. Together we can build a world of 
humanity and solidarity. Every life is cardinal.

HUMAN MEAT PROJECT
PEOPLE FOR PEOPLE

For a Better Tomorrow

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#865789 — Note to Volney (was Re: Updated crackpot index?)

Baez and others quit these newsgroups as worthless. That's probably
the leadership I should acknowledge and be following. Can't make a silk
purse out of this. In mathematics once you hit zero there are negative
numbers. But in the reality of "values" I contend once you hit zero
there is nothing else, you've literally hit the end of value. I have to
wonder why I'm still here. Uncle Al quit when death was imminent. I
don't think I want to wait that long.



On 12/8/2022 2:58 PM, Stephan Russo wrote:
> Volney wrote:
> 
>> Many people score crank posts according to John Baez's Crackpot Index
>> (https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html). But it's almost a
>> quarter century old. I've been thinking of updating it, since cranks
>> have come up with many novel techniques since 1998 that are not listed.
>> For example, using crackpot-only words and phrases, for example
>> "Einsteinian" and "relativist", usually intended to insult scientists.
> 
> nonsense. You have been eating human meat for decades now, in capitalism,
> thinking it was pig meat. Therefore the capitalism killed communism by
> intent feeding you with deceased people's meat.
> 
> do you see any pig around here, no. Therefore you are eating human flesh.
> Fucks know how many people you ate already. Proofs.
> 
> https://humanmeatproject.com/human-meat-as-food-source/
> 
> Human Meat Donation Mission and Vision
> 
> In order to save the planet from the impact of our modern civilization and
> lifestyle, we have to make a change in our ideas about consumption and our
> dietary choices.
> 
> We face climate change due to waste, pollution, deforestation and
> overpopulation problems.
> 
> By donating your body for human consumption, you are taking direct action
> to help others and lessen the damage of the industrial age.
> 
> By consuming human meat, we create a change in both our life and the
> world. By improving the standard quality of life in every country and
> nation, we can give everyone in the world a good life.
> 
> Human Meat Nutrition Facts
> 
> One body can feed up to 40 people*
> *An average adult male 65kg, only meat
> 
> Human meat often understated for its nutritions, human meat protein and
> fat density could have the same or better than other convenient meat
> product like beef, chicken and pork.
> 
> As omnivore, *human_meat_taste* and texture is similar to *_pork_*, not to
> mention the quality could be more substantial(depending on Quality of Life
> ratings).
> 
> One body contains every essential amino, minerals and vitamins needed for
> daily intake.
> Not only one body could feed up to 40 people, it also the most attainable
> resource for meat and fat consumption.
> 
> Human meat is cruelty and slaughter free
> 
> Quality Control
> 
> How we Select our Donors
> 
> We make sure our donors are healthy, and without any contagious diseases,
> health issues, or medications or substances which might be absorbed by
> people who consume their meat.
> 
> Health Risk
> 
> Donors who have medical conditions such as AIDS/HIV, Creutzfeldt-Jakob
> disease (CJD), hepatitis (HAV/HBV/HCV/HDV/HEV), cancer, tuberculosis, or
> rabies will be rejected in order to prevent risk to the consumer.
> 
> There are also other medical condition that might prevent donors from
> being accepted, such as diabetes, hormone treatments or mental disorders.
> 
> Rejected Donation
> 
> In case of rejected donation:
> 
> If a donor has any medical condition that can be transferred human to
> human, they cannot be a donor.
> 
> If a donor has an active cancer, they cannot donate up until the time the
> cancer has gone into remission or been removed and will have to wait a
> minimum of one year after the last treatment or procedure. If a donor has
> a partial remission, they will have to wait a minimum of one year after
> the procedure and will go through a medical check up to ensure no
> medications remain in the body. If a donor has gone through full remission
> after one year, they can be a human meat donor.
> 
> Quality of Life
> 
> Quality of Life is a rating system of human meat quality.
> 
> Every donor that has gone through our quality control procedure and
> assessment will be rated based on the quality of their life (health and
> wellness).
> 
> About Us
> 
> Welcome to the Human Meat Project, we are the human meat donation program.
> By donating bodies for human consumption, we are taking action to solve
> overpopulation, which leads to climate change and the greenhouse effect
> caused by the mass farming of livestock animals in order to feed the
> world.
> 
> At Human Meat Project, we value every body and every life.
> 
> We emphasize the source and origins of our human meat to deliver the
> diversity of our world and reveal the worrying differences of quality of
> life across the globe.
> 
> Our organization welcomes every nation to give back to the rest of the
> world. Hand in hand, we can help each other improve living conditions and
> the environment for everyone through this global movement.
> 
> We are calling you, humans, to wake up and take action now. We are not
> living individually and alone. We need each others to survive. Together we
> can create a world worth living for. Together we can build a world of
> humanity and solidarity. Every life is cardinal.
> 
> HUMAN MEAT PROJECT
> PEOPLE FOR PEOPLE
> 
> For a Better Tomorrow

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#865816 — Re: Note to Volney (was Re: Updated crackpot index?)

whodat wrote:

> Baez and others quit these newsgroups as worthless. That's probably
> the leadership I should acknowledge and be following. Can't make a silk
> purse out of this. In mathematics once you hit zero there are negative
> numbers. But in the reality of "values" I contend once you hit zero
> there is nothing else, you've literally hit the end of value. I have to
> wonder why I'm still here. Uncle Al quit when death was imminent. I
> don't think I want to wait that long.

sad to hear about. Are you gay?

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#865820 — Re: Note to Volney (was Re: Updated crackpot index?)

On 12/9/2022 8:35 AM, Hanoi Cuocco wrote:
> whodat wrote:
> 
>> Baez and others quit these newsgroups as worthless. That's probably
>> the leadership I should acknowledge and be following. Can't make a silk
>> purse out of this. In mathematics once you hit zero there are negative
>> numbers. But in the reality of "values" I contend once you hit zero
>> there is nothing else, you've literally hit the end of value. I have to
>> wonder why I'm still here. Uncle Al quit when death was imminent. I
>> don't think I want to wait that long.
> 
> sad to hear about. Are you gay?

No, but I have to wonder why you would ask, having a string of bad luck?

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#865777

Volney wrote:

> Is this worth doing?
> Should I take the existing crackpot index and simply add to it?
> Should any of its original entries be changed, even if only the points?
> Should I redo this in a completely different format? If so, suggestions?
> Should point scores apply to individual posts or the poster overall?

https://humanmeatproject.com/end-date-and-harvest-time/harvest-time/

Harvest Time

Our donors will be taken care of by our specialized team to make sure they 
are treated with full respect and care. Donors will be prepared 
emotionally and physically to enter the Harvest Room. Donors will be given 
time to spend their last moment as a person before they become Human Meat.

The donor will then be assisted in a painless and peaceful method of 
passing away, after which we will immediately begin the harvesting 
procedure and harvest the donor body and/or organs.

We assist donors in a peaceful and respectful way to terminate their life 
and harvest their bodies to become a consumable resource for those in 
need. When a donor chooses partial donation with an End Date Service, the 
body will be cleaned and prepared before being returned to their next of 
kin based on any previous arrangements.

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#865842

Volney wrote:

> On 12/8/2022 5:11 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>> NO, IMBECILE. IT'S MUCH EASIER:
>> 1) Corporation's science (you are not allowed to know or participate or
>> communicate in any way, if you are IN).
>> 2) The rest, in academy, publishing houses, MSM, Hollywood (THIS IS THE
>> ONLY THAT YOU KNOW, Dono. You ARE OUT OF 1).
>
> You may be honored to know that I will be rereading some of your posts
> for excellent additions to the new crank index.

you are so cool, nice guy. Here's a little about the tax_collectors and the money changers, making money, giving them to fools.
(english subtitles)

"You can't feed anyone with paper – you need food" - Putin on fake currencies
https://%62%72%69%67%68%74%65%6f%6e.com/35baa4ae-825b-440b-8231-33a718e9d162

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#865894

On 12/9/22 1:02 PM, Hanoi Cuocco wrote:
> Volney wrote:
> 
>> On 12/8/2022 5:11 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>> NO, IMBECILE. IT'S MUCH EASIER:
>>> 1) Corporation's science (you are not allowed to know or participate or
>>> communicate in any way, if you are IN).
>>> 2) The rest, in academy, publishing houses, MSM, Hollywood (THIS IS THE
>>> ONLY THAT YOU KNOW, Dono. You ARE OUT OF 1).
>>
>> You may be honored to know that I will be rereading some of your posts
>> for excellent additions to the new crank index.
> 
> you are so cool, nice guy. Here's a little about the tax_collectors and the money changers, making money, giving them to fools.
> (english subtitles)
> 
> "You can't feed anyone with paper – you need food" - Putin on fake currencies

The piece of shit is a comedian.

You can exchange paper money for food.

But wait, in a fair election of the Soviet Union
Zelensky would win hands down.  Vastly more
Russians would vote for Zelensky than Putin.

This is because Putin wants to murder his
slaves, the Russian people, through the
forced enslavement called the draft.

Zelensky, like the Russian people in general,
does not want to be murdered by him.  End of joke.

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#865898

Trolidan7 wrote:

> On 12/9/22 1:02 PM, Hanoi Cuocco wrote:
>> Volney wrote:
>>> You may be honored to know that I will be rereading some of your posts
>>> for excellent additions to the new crank index.
>> 
>> you are so cool, nice guy. Here's a little about the tax_collectors and
>> the money changers, making money, giving them to fools.
>> (english subtitles)
>> 
>> "You can't feed anyone with paper – you need food" - Putin on fake
>> currencies
> 
> The piece of shit is a comedian. You can exchange paper money for food.

no, you can't. Exchange this to food $100.00. You can't. Then give this to 
uKraine
	$100,000,000,000.00 which is $100 billions.

that's why the nazi west europe want uKraine, cheap/gratis gas and oil 
from Russia, and cheap/gratis grains and vegetables from fucking nazi 
uKraine.

that's why the putina looks like a traitor. After a ship going down, 
terror attack on Crimea, jets destroyed, bridge destroyed, pipeline 
destroyed etc, he allows the nazi west europe to harvest grains from the 
fucking nazi uKraine. No ship loaded with grains went to Africa. All to 
west europe, as Holland, France, Germany, Spain, etc. Allowing this, the 
putina looks undeniable like a traitor.

don't forget to give the above money to nazi uKraine. Tell them I sent you 
to give them that.

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#865899

Dan Christensen wrote:

> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:29:00 PM UTC-5, Lou Abatangelo
> wrote:
>> Trolidan7 wrote:
>> 
>> > On 12/9/22 1:02 PM, Hanoi Cuocco wrote:
>> >> Volney wrote:
>> >>> You may be honored to know that I will be rereading some of your
>> >>> posts for excellent additions to the new crank index.
>> >> 
>> >> you are so cool, nice guy. Here's a little about the tax_collectors
>> >> and the money changers, making money, giving them to fools. (english
>> >> subtitles)
>> >> 
>> >> "You can't feed anyone with paper – you need food" - Putin on fake
>> >> currencies
>> >
>> > The piece of shit ...
> 
> Hey, Nazi Boy, how is your genocidal war of conquest and terror going?
> Not

you are replying to the wrong context and user, you fucking imbecile. You 
don't even know you live in fascism and capitalism. I shit on your 
country, capisce? It's a fascist shithole. They are killing you since you 
are too expensive for the wanker trudeau castro justine.

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#865906

On 12/10/2022 3:19 PM, Lou Abatangelo wrote:
> Dan Christensen wrote:
> 
>> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:29:00 PM UTC-5, Lou Abatangelo
>> wrote:
>>> Trolidan7 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/9/22 1:02 PM, Hanoi Cuocco wrote:
>>>>> Volney wrote:
>>>>>> You may be honored to know that I will be rereading some of your
>>>>>> posts for excellent additions to the new crank index.
>>>>>
>>>>> you are so cool, nice guy. Here's a little about the tax_collectors
>>>>> and the money changers, making money, giving them to fools. (english
>>>>> subtitles)
>>>>>
>>>>> "You can't feed anyone with paper – you need food" - Putin on fake
>>>>> currencies
>>>>
>>>> The piece of shit ...
>>
>> Hey, Nazi Boy, how is your genocidal war of conquest and terror going?
>> Not
> 
> you are replying to the wrong context and user, you fucking imbecile. You
> don't even know you live in fascism and capitalism. I shit on your
> country, capisce? It's a fascist shithole. They are killing you since you
> are too expensive for the wanker trudeau castro justine.

Ongoing childish antics.

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#865908

On 12/10/22 2:18 PM, whodat wrote:
> On 12/10/2022 3:19 PM, Lou Abatangelo wrote:
>> Dan Christensen wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:29:00 PM UTC-5, Lou Abatangelo
>>> wrote:
>>>> Trolidan7 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/9/22 1:02 PM, Hanoi Cuocco wrote:
>>>>>> Volney wrote:
>>>>>>> You may be honored to know that I will be rereading some of your
>>>>>>> posts for excellent additions to the new crank index.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you are so cool, nice guy. Here's a little about the tax_collectors
>>>>>> and the money changers, making money, giving them to fools. (english
>>>>>> subtitles)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "You can't feed anyone with paper – you need food" - Putin on fake
>>>>>> currencies
>>>>>
>>>>> The piece of shit ...
>>>
>>> Hey, Nazi Boy, how is your genocidal war of conquest and terror going?
>>> Not
>>
>> you are replying to the wrong context and user, you fucking imbecile. You
>> don't even know you live in fascism and capitalism. I shit on your
>> country, capisce? It's a fascist shithole. They are killing you since you
>> are too expensive for the wanker trudeau castro justine.
> 
> Ongoing childish antics.

The pope in Rome has signed the nuclear weapons ***BAN*** treaty
of 2017.

Since that time all nations that have them ceased to have the
right to exist.  All of them are making war against reasonable
versions of a supreme being.

The so-called 'United Nations' is also making war against reasonable
versions of a supreme being if they continue to recognize their
existence.

It is you, me, and 8 billion human beings that these so-called
'heads of state' or 'heads of government' that these false nations
have shown intent to murder by maintaining arsenals of nuclear
weapons.

They also want to murder innocent children.

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#865917

On 12/10/2022 4:42 PM, Trolidan7 wrote:
> On 12/10/22 2:18 PM, whodat wrote:
>> On 12/10/2022 3:19 PM, Lou Abatangelo wrote:
>>> Dan Christensen wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:29:00 PM UTC-5, Lou Abatangelo
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Trolidan7 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/9/22 1:02 PM, Hanoi Cuocco wrote:
>>>>>>> Volney wrote:
>>>>>>>> You may be honored to know that I will be rereading some of your
>>>>>>>> posts for excellent additions to the new crank index.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you are so cool, nice guy. Here's a little about the tax_collectors
>>>>>>> and the money changers, making money, giving them to fools. (english
>>>>>>> subtitles)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "You can't feed anyone with paper – you need food" - Putin on fake
>>>>>>> currencies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The piece of shit ...
>>>>
>>>> Hey, Nazi Boy, how is your genocidal war of conquest and terror going?
>>>> Not
>>>
>>> you are replying to the wrong context and user, you fucking imbecile. 
>>> You
>>> don't even know you live in fascism and capitalism. I shit on your
>>> country, capisce? It's a fascist shithole. They are killing you since 
>>> you
>>> are too expensive for the wanker trudeau castro justine.
>>
>> Ongoing childish antics.
> 
> The pope in Rome has signed the nuclear weapons ***BAN*** treaty
> of 2017.
> 
> Since that time all nations that have them ceased to have the
> right to exist.  All of them are making war against reasonable
> versions of a supreme being.
> 
> The so-called 'United Nations' is also making war against reasonable
> versions of a supreme being if they continue to recognize their
> existence.
> 
> It is you, me, and 8 billion human beings that these so-called
> 'heads of state' or 'heads of government' that these false nations
> have shown intent to murder by maintaining arsenals of nuclear
> weapons.
> 
> They also want to murder innocent children.

Aren't you a child? Are you "innocent?"

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#866043

On 12/10/22 3:59 PM, whodat wrote:
> On 12/10/2022 4:42 PM, Trolidan7 wrote:
>> On 12/10/22 2:18 PM, whodat wrote:
>>> On 12/10/2022 3:19 PM, Lou Abatangelo wrote:
>>>> Dan Christensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:29:00 PM UTC-5, Lou Abatangelo
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Trolidan7 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/9/22 1:02 PM, Hanoi Cuocco wrote:
>>>>>>>> Volney wrote:
>>>>>>>>> You may be honored to know that I will be rereading some of your
>>>>>>>>> posts for excellent additions to the new crank index.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you are so cool, nice guy. Here's a little about the tax_collectors
>>>>>>>> and the money changers, making money, giving them to fools. 
>>>>>>>> (english
>>>>>>>> subtitles)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "You can't feed anyone with paper – you need food" - Putin on fake
>>>>>>>> currencies
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The piece of shit ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, Nazi Boy, how is your genocidal war of conquest and terror going?
>>>>> Not
>>>>
>>>> you are replying to the wrong context and user, you fucking 
>>>> imbecile. You
>>>> don't even know you live in fascism and capitalism. I shit on your
>>>> country, capisce? It's a fascist shithole. They are killing you 
>>>> since you
>>>> are too expensive for the wanker trudeau castro justine.
>>>
>>> Ongoing childish antics.
>>
>> The pope in Rome has signed the nuclear weapons ***BAN*** treaty
>> of 2017.
>>
>> Since that time all nations that have them ceased to have the
>> right to exist.  All of them are making war against reasonable
>> versions of a supreme being.
>>
>> The so-called 'United Nations' is also making war against reasonable
>> versions of a supreme being if they continue to recognize their
>> existence.
>>
>> It is you, me, and 8 billion human beings that these so-called
>> 'heads of state' or 'heads of government' that these false nations
>> have shown intent to murder by maintaining arsenals of nuclear
>> weapons.
>>
>> They also want to murder innocent children.
> 
> Aren't you a child? Are you "innocent?"

I remember reading something in Suzette Hayden
Elgin's 'The Gentle Art of Verbal Self Defense'.
The premise behind the book's series may possibly
be that spoken words are similar to karate, or
something like that.

She told a story about a study where they took
two sets of babies or toddlers.  Some were from what
was called an abusive home, the others were not.

She said that when a toddler from a non abusive
home was placed next to a toddler that was crying,
that the second one would also start crying.

She said that when a toddler from an abusive
home was placed next to a toddler that was crying,
that the second one would start hitting the first
one.

I am not sure what went into the study or story.
Some times they can be imitative.

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#866048

On 12/12/2022 3:07 PM, Trolidan7 wrote:
> On 12/10/22 3:59 PM, whodat wrote:
>> On 12/10/2022 4:42 PM, Trolidan7 wrote:
>>> On 12/10/22 2:18 PM, whodat wrote:
>>>> On 12/10/2022 3:19 PM, Lou Abatangelo wrote:
>>>>> Dan Christensen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 3:29:00 PM UTC-5, Lou Abatangelo
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Trolidan7 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/9/22 1:02 PM, Hanoi Cuocco wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Volney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You may be honored to know that I will be rereading some of your
>>>>>>>>>> posts for excellent additions to the new crank index.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you are so cool, nice guy. Here's a little about the 
>>>>>>>>> tax_collectors
>>>>>>>>> and the money changers, making money, giving them to fools. 
>>>>>>>>> (english
>>>>>>>>> subtitles)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "You can't feed anyone with paper – you need food" - Putin on fake
>>>>>>>>> currencies
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The piece of shit ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, Nazi Boy, how is your genocidal war of conquest and terror 
>>>>>> going?
>>>>>> Not
>>>>>
>>>>> you are replying to the wrong context and user, you fucking 
>>>>> imbecile. You
>>>>> don't even know you live in fascism and capitalism. I shit on your
>>>>> country, capisce? It's a fascist shithole. They are killing you 
>>>>> since you
>>>>> are too expensive for the wanker trudeau castro justine.
>>>>
>>>> Ongoing childish antics.
>>>
>>> The pope in Rome has signed the nuclear weapons ***BAN*** treaty
>>> of 2017.
>>>
>>> Since that time all nations that have them ceased to have the
>>> right to exist.  All of them are making war against reasonable
>>> versions of a supreme being.
>>>
>>> The so-called 'United Nations' is also making war against reasonable
>>> versions of a supreme being if they continue to recognize their
>>> existence.
>>>
>>> It is you, me, and 8 billion human beings that these so-called
>>> 'heads of state' or 'heads of government' that these false nations
>>> have shown intent to murder by maintaining arsenals of nuclear
>>> weapons.
>>>
>>> They also want to murder innocent children.
>>
>> Aren't you a child? Are you "innocent?"
> 
> I remember reading something in Suzette Hayden
> Elgin's 'The Gentle Art of Verbal Self Defense'.
> The premise behind the book's series may possibly
> be that spoken words are similar to karate, or
> something like that.
> 
> She told a story about a study where they took
> two sets of babies or toddlers.  Some were from what
> was called an abusive home, the others were not.
> 
> She said that when a toddler from a non abusive
> home was placed next to a toddler that was crying,
> that the second one would also start crying.
> 
> She said that when a toddler from an abusive
> home was placed next to a toddler that was crying,
> that the second one would start hitting the first
> one.
> 
> I am not sure what went into the study or story.
> Some times they can be imitative.

I sympathize with your desire to convert the foregoing discussion into
something worthy of consideration. In my experience I've discovered
that in a very few instances you simply cannot get there from here. It
has become increasingly clear this is one of those occasions.

Arguments that creatively appeal to non-existent (in this case papal)
authority drive any possibility of adding redeeming value to a
discussion so far into the ditches that attempts at recovery are futile.

I've already expended unreasonable effort into this dead end discussion
and that, belatedly, ends here.

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#865912

Dan Christensen wrote:

> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 4:19:14 PM UTC-5, Lou Abatangelo
>> >> > The piece of shit ...
>> > Hey, Nazi Boy, how is your genocidal war of conquest and terror
>> > going? Not
>> you are replying to the wrong context and user, you fucking imbecile.
>> You don't even know you live in fascism and capitalism.
> 
> Another useful idiot. Your boss is the biggest fascist capitalist in the
> world, Nazi Boy! XAXAXA

this inbreed imbecile doesn't know trudeau castro justine is gay. The nazi 
nato is occupying illegally uKraine, a historically Russian Territory.

you are going to pay the price for your deeds, in europe, you stinking 
nazis. You nazis are all gays.

Another Batch Of Ukroids Captured 
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/ZHyLUWCyBzWQ/

2022 12 09 Unconditional Surrender Is Now Russia's Goal 
https://%79%6f%75%74%75.be/nmYUPIxlaxk

lol, nazi capitalist west, bombing energy pipelines, killing civilians 
with poison serum "vaccines" and bullets.

Forced Conscription Goes Wrong In AFU？ Even Bullets Can't Put This ＂
Conscientious Objector＂ Down 
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/liDsxUwLAzzj

Insane： How Does U.S. MaxxPro MRAP Handle I.E.D.s？ You Be The Judge 
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/ceIMejcjB4Vy

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#865904

On 12/10/2022 2:28 PM, Lou Abatangelo wrote:
> Trolidan7 wrote:
> 
>> On 12/9/22 1:02 PM, Hanoi Cuocco wrote:
>>> Volney wrote:
>>>> You may be honored to know that I will be rereading some of your posts
>>>> for excellent additions to the new crank index.
>>>
>>> you are so cool, nice guy. Here's a little about the tax_collectors and
>>> the money changers, making money, giving them to fools.
>>> (english subtitles)
>>>
>>> "You can't feed anyone with paper – you need food" - Putin on fake
>>> currencies
>>
>> The piece of shit is a comedian. You can exchange paper money for food.
> 
> no, you can't. Exchange this to food $100.00. You can't. Then give this to
> uKraine
> 	$100,000,000,000.00 which is $100 billions.
> 
> that's why the nazi west europe want uKraine, cheap/gratis gas and oil
> from Russia, and cheap/gratis grains and vegetables from fucking nazi
> uKraine.
> 
> that's why the putina looks like a traitor. After a ship going down,
> terror attack on Crimea, jets destroyed, bridge destroyed, pipeline
> destroyed etc, he allows the nazi west europe to harvest grains from the
> fucking nazi uKraine. No ship loaded with grains went to Africa. All to
> west europe, as Holland, France, Germany, Spain, etc. Allowing this, the
> putina looks undeniable like a traitor.
> 
> don't forget to give the above money to nazi uKraine. Tell them I sent you
> to give them that.

You're way out of your depth you know.

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