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| Started by | "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> |
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| First post | 2022-10-06 22:39 -0700 |
| Last post | 2022-10-21 08:20 -0700 |
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Who will take Russia's Far East ? "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-06 22:39 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-07 02:37 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 01:30 -0700
smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-07 01:53 -0700
Re: smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-07 04:59 -0500
Re: smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-10-07 12:24 -0700
Re: smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-10 04:16 -0700
Re: smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 04:41 -0700
Re: smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. Sergi o <invalid@invalid.com> - 2022-10-13 16:06 -0500
Subsidies flow into the military industrial complex. "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-13 19:53 -0700
Re: Subsidies flow into the military industrial complex. Sergi o <invalid@invalid.com> - 2022-10-13 22:38 -0500
Re: Subsidies flow into the military industrial complex. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 21:30 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-07 15:26 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 17:52 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-08 02:14 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 00:46 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-08 18:56 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-08 18:42 -0500
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 18:56 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 19:59 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-09 01:23 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-09 00:24 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-12 15:32 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 03:25 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-13 11:55 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-13 14:06 -0500
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 15:17 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 14:55 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michel Marconi <iinc@lcrallem.or> - 2022-10-09 11:58 +0000
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 22:37 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-09 18:02 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2022-10-10 03:10 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 03:22 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 22:56 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-12 16:23 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-12 17:33 -0500
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Willian Ravenna <ewin@arnaanva.ne> - 2022-10-12 23:05 +0000
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-12 19:11 -0500
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-13 01:48 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-12 23:53 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 14:03 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 14:10 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-12 22:35 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-13 12:41 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 15:16 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-16 12:31 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Everet Baldini <rvia@nildiden.ii> - 2022-10-16 16:45 +0000
Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-16 13:51 -0500
Re: Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 15:14 -0700
Re: Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-17 00:45 +0200
Re: Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 15:50 -0700
Re: Newsgroup Insanity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-17 01:05 +0200
Re: Newsgroup Insanity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 17:01 -0700
Re: Newsgroup Insanity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-18 00:19 +0200
Re: Newsgroup Insanity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 14:32 -0700
Re: Newsgroup Insanity Sergi o <invalid@invalid.com> - 2022-10-19 14:47 -0500
Re: Newsgroup Insanity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 15:17 -0700
Re: Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-17 01:45 -0400
Re: Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-17 14:25 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-18 21:58 +0000
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-19 19:40 +0000
Dictators subsidize the military industrial complex. "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-16 09:54 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-16 14:04 -0500
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 15:23 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 16:55 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-18 20:43 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 19:30 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-20 01:24 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 00:01 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-20 15:18 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 18:07 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 22:53 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-25 20:58 -0400
Joe Biden, Putin & Xi all suffer from the same disease: pride. "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-25 18:33 -0700
Re: Joe Biden, Putin & Xi all suffer from the same disease: pride. Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2022-10-26 02:02 +0000
Re: Joe Biden, Putin & Xi all suffer from the same disease: pride. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2022-10-25 19:34 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-25 18:37 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-26 16:22 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-26 15:42 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-27 06:56 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Timothy Golden <timbandtech@gmail.com> - 2022-10-27 08:39 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-30 16:29 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-30 02:02 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Wally Alescio <llew@wclasslc.oa> - 2022-10-30 11:46 +0000
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-30 07:55 -0500
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Wally Alescio <llew@wclasslc.oa> - 2022-10-30 16:26 +0000
Jewish Ukraine is LGBTQ+ friendly & Putin is mimicking Hitler. "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-30 14:36 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-30 16:37 -0500
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-30 17:37 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Franz Salucci <uiin@cestales.ml> - 2022-10-31 10:58 +0000
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Buddie Fiore <inbe@iieuedi.du> - 2022-10-31 16:32 +0000
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-31 13:51 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-31 12:54 -0400
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Buddie Fiore <inbe@iieuedi.du> - 2022-10-31 16:57 +0000
Too many dictators. "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-20 03:02 -0700
Re: Too many dictators. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-20 10:48 -0400
Today, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus. "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-20 08:23 -0700
Re: Today, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus. Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-20 15:36 +0000
Too weak to care ? "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-20 09:20 -0700
Too many kooks chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2022-10-20 17:19 -0500
Re: Too many kooks % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 16:16 -0700
Re: Too many kooks Timothy Golden <timbandtech@gmail.com> - 2022-10-21 04:59 -0700
Re: Too many kooks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-21 21:44 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-20 15:05 +0000
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-19 00:33 -0500
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 23:11 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-19 19:07 -0500
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 18:18 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-20 00:07 -0500
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 23:23 -0700
Dictatorships rule. "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-19 01:23 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 03:16 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 05:09 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 15:19 -0700
The damage done to Russia's Crimean bridge. "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-08 02:08 -0700
Come 2024... "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-08 15:00 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 22:07 -0500
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 04:08 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Physfit Freak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 22:42 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 23:10 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-11 00:44 +0200
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Donald Richardson <drich@hotmail.net> - 2022-10-08 10:20 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 19:31 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? He <enihcamgnimag@hotmail.com> - 2022-10-19 09:48 -0700
Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Shining star <he12091983@gmail.com> - 2022-10-21 08:20 -0700
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| From | % <pursent100@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-20 16:16 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Too many kooks |
| Message-ID | <2jedna4Qtel5S8z-nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #863295 |
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| From | Timothy Golden <timbandtech@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-21 04:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Too many kooks |
| Message-ID | <0df01c3b-c0b8-4de8-bf3c-95f2a84e0eabn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #863295 |
On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:19:48 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > Relf wrote: > > >Too many dictators. Russia is about to take Kyiv. > >Russia & China's glory days are over. > Putin is a kook. Xi is a kook. Why can't we all get along? Biden's a kook. Russiagate is proven kookiness fully adopted by those supporting this Ukraine war. https://thegrayzone.com/?s=russiagate
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-21 21:44 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Too many kooks |
| Message-ID | <63537544.27A1@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #863295 |
chrisv wrote: > > Relf wrote: > > >Too many dictators. Russia is about to take Kyiv. > >Russia & China's glory days are over. > > Putin is a kook. Xi is a kook. Why can't we all get along? study physics, ...it's called...friction. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> |
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| Date | 2022-10-20 15:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tiro36$bsvk$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #863255 |
Michael Moroney wrote: >>> You are quoting 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 propaganda almost word for word from other >>> 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 trolls elsewhere. >> Not only that, I am saying that Zelensky came to power by exposing it >> on media, and became very popular as a consequence. >> Calling the opposition names is childish, but then you are a moron, >> Moroney. > > What, you never heard of the Russian troll farms? People from places > like Nigeria, Philippines, India get paid to troll on social media, and > some of them do it day after day. Trolling (social media) is what they > do, and shut the fuck up! *I_fuck_your_ass!*
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-19 00:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jr9gi6FnatiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #863219 |
On 10/18/2022 7:43 PM, Michael Moroney wrote: > On 10/16/2022 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: [...] >> Clean thinking will lead to great living. >> > It does. You need to clean up your thought processes, big time! (but you > won't. Your loss) > > > Since so much of what you write is 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 propaganda, and I > cannot sweep back that ocean of lies, it's probably best to just leave > you to fester in your pit of evil thoughts. It is impossible to be sure what isn't propaganda, but having watched a you tube piece by Svetlana I hazard a guess she's real because actual propaganda does not allow *any* criticism and she lets some mild complaints through into her final product. The thing that is missing is what the actual wages are for Russians, so although we have some prices for essential foods and gasoline, we can't tell what the affordability is. But as an overview I found it worth my while watching this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cgwYjc45A It is clear that Banerjee is a propagandist. If he knew what the Russians think about his "invention" and his "science" I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be promoting them. Time for Arindam to find out. Arindam why don't you approach the official offices of Russia in Australia to see whether they'll pay for a trip for you to meet with their scientists and introduce them to your "science." I'll gladly bet on my prediction. The problem is, of course, that when they reject your "science" you'll find some way to discredit them, probably by claiming they're dupes of the west or somesuch. And, after all, the power base of Russia is white.
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-18 23:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8056f762-06b5-429b-9a75-5a203a8b28bdn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #863231 |
On Wednesday, 19 October 2022 at 16:34:05 UTC+11, whodat wrote: > On 10/18/2022 7:43 PM, Michael Moroney wrote: > > On 10/16/2022 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > [...] > >> Clean thinking will lead to great living. > >> > > It does. You need to clean up your thought processes, big time! (but you > > won't. Your loss) We all need to think better. You don't think you need to think better. But I do, so I make great discoveries and inventions. > > > > > > Since so much of what you write is 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 propaganda, and I > > cannot sweep back that ocean of lies, it's probably best to just leave > > you to fester in your pit of evil thoughts. > It is impossible to be sure what isn't propaganda, but having watched a > you tube piece by Svetlana I hazard a guess she's real because actual > propaganda does not allow *any* criticism and she lets some mild > complaints through into her final product. The thing that is missing > is what the actual wages are for Russians, so although we have some > prices for essential foods and gasoline, we can't tell what the > affordability is. But as an overview I found it worth my while > watching this. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cgwYjc45A > > It is clear that Banerjee is a propagandist. It is clear that you are a lying whatnot, whodumbo. > If he knew what the > Russians think about his "invention" and his "science" I'm pretty > sure he wouldn't be promoting them. Time for Arindam to find out. I have not been criticized for my invention and my science by the following : Russians Chinese Japanese Burmese Thai Malaysians Sri Lankas (now this is pretty vocal lot) Indonesians Indians (not for many years now, the critics have vanished) Africans South Americans Canadians Australians NZers So who are left? Some ersatz USAns of the whodumbo class - nothing can be known about these no-name hideous creeps - reps of the deep state devils in the washington swamp. > Arindam why don't you approach the official offices of Russia in > Australia to see whether they'll pay for a trip for you to meet with > their scientists and introduce them to your "science." I have contacted local sources. Let us see. Locals should have the right of "first refusal" in real estate terms. As per my understanding back in 1998, the discovery of e=0.5mVV(N-k)N is of such immense importance that it would take the world a minimum of 30 years to get it. Only 24 years have passed since. I have not done too badly, going by my own estimates. If the world hadn't been such a !#$%^%^^ directed by scum like you, whodumbo, we would have replaced jet engines and rockets with IFEs by now, and sent oil companies packing with the HTN providing hydrogen cheaply to all. Maybe I could take a trip to the Moon and back in my lifetime, in a luxury touring spaceship powered by IFEs. My grandchildren and their friends certainly could and probably will. I'll gladly bet > on my prediction. The problem is, of course, that when they reject your > "science" you'll find some way to discredit them, probably by claiming > they're dupes of the west or somesuch. And, after all, the power base > of Russia is white. No, their decency in racial matters, leading to support for the thirdworld, is in my opinion based upon their national poet Pushkin, who had African ancestry. Pushkin changed their language, made it glorious. That is one reason why Russians are better than other whites. They are also Asian in part, thanks to Mongol invasions.
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-19 19:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jrbhqpF2l4pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #863231 |
On 10/19/2022 12:33 AM, whodat wrote: > On 10/18/2022 7:43 PM, Michael Moroney wrote: >> On 10/16/2022 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > [...] > >>> Clean thinking will lead to great living. >>> >> It does. You need to clean up your thought processes, big time! (but >> you won't. Your loss) >> >> >> Since so much of what you write is 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 propaganda, and I >> cannot sweep back that ocean of lies, it's probably best to just leave >> you to fester in your pit of evil thoughts. > > It is impossible to be sure what isn't propaganda, but having watched a > you tube piece by Svetlana I hazard a guess she's real because actual > propaganda does not allow *any* criticism and she lets some mild > complaints through into her final product. The thing that is missing > is what the actual wages are for Russians, so although we have some > prices for essential foods and gasoline, we can't tell what the > affordability is. But as an overview I found it worth my while > watching this. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cgwYjc45A > > It is clear that Banerjee is a propagandist. If he knew what the > Russians think about his "invention" and his "science" I'm pretty > sure he wouldn't be promoting them. Time for Arindam to find out. > > Arindam why don't you approach the official offices of Russia in > Australia to see whether they'll pay for a trip for you to meet with > their scientists and introduce them to your "science." I'll gladly bet > on my prediction. The problem is, of course, that when they reject your > "science" you'll find some way to discredit them, probably by claiming > they're dupes of the west or somesuch. And, after all, the power base > of Russia is white. I've let this sit for the better part of a day with no response. No biggie but I had left out a comment about Svetlana's "love of her country and culture" while not liking the Russian government very much. That government isn't the product of some sort of spontaneous generation, The government is created by the governed, so in some part Svetlana doesn't like her own creation. Putin was voted into office in 2000. There's an old saying that people get the government they deserve.
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-19 18:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b4ff2bd1-9643-42b2-afd5-1f0c0187e109n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #863250 |
On Thursday, 20 October 2022 at 11:07:59 UTC+11, whodat wrote: > On 10/19/2022 12:33 AM, whodat wrote: > > On 10/18/2022 7:43 PM, Michael Moroney wrote: > >> On 10/16/2022 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >>> Clean thinking will lead to great living. > >>> > >> It does. You need to clean up your thought processes, big time! (but > >> you won't. Your loss) > >> > >> > >> Since so much of what you write is 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 propaganda, and I > >> cannot sweep back that ocean of lies, it's probably best to just leave > >> you to fester in your pit of evil thoughts. > > > > It is impossible to be sure what isn't propaganda, but having watched a > > you tube piece by Svetlana I hazard a guess she's real because actual > > propaganda does not allow *any* criticism and she lets some mild > > complaints through into her final product. The thing that is missing > > is what the actual wages are for Russians, so although we have some > > prices for essential foods and gasoline, we can't tell what the > > affordability is. But as an overview I found it worth my while > > watching this. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cgwYjc45A > > > > It is clear that Banerjee is a propagandist. If he knew what the > > Russians think about his "invention" and his "science" I'm pretty > > sure he wouldn't be promoting them. Time for Arindam to find out. > > > > Arindam why don't you approach the official offices of Russia in > > Australia to see whether they'll pay for a trip for you to meet with > > their scientists and introduce them to your "science." I'll gladly bet > > on my prediction. The problem is, of course, that when they reject your > > "science" you'll find some way to discredit them, probably by claiming > > they're dupes of the west or somesuch. And, after all, the power base > > of Russia is white. > I've let this sit for the better part of a day with no response. No > biggie but I had left out a comment about Svetlana's "love of her > country and culture" while not liking the Russian government very much. > > That government isn't the product of some sort of spontaneous > generation, The government is created by the governed, so in some part > Svetlana doesn't like her own creation. Putin was voted into office in > 2000. > > There's an old saying that people get the government they deserve. Agreed for once, whodumbo has got the govt he deserves - deep state monsters wallowing in the washington swamp: rigging elections, telling lies, doing plenty of mischiefs; led by a senile old fool with a hyaena in tow. He loves it.
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-20 00:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jrc3c3F4tsmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #863250 |
On 10/19/2022 7:07 PM, whodat wrote: > On 10/19/2022 12:33 AM, whodat wrote: >> On 10/18/2022 7:43 PM, Michael Moroney wrote: >>> On 10/16/2022 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>>> Clean thinking will lead to great living. >>>> >>> It does. You need to clean up your thought processes, big time! (but >>> you won't. Your loss) Arindam is too busy attacking those who recommend that he find out what the Russians actually think or his proposed "science" and crashing armatures that he doesn't bother to find out what everyday Russians think about the war they are in. It is clear to see that they are very careful how they parse their ideas. I am familiar with the verbiage because I visited my family behind the slightly relaxed iron curtain three times in the 1980's and once in 2000 after the iron curtain had dropped. It is surprising because of the wonderful reports he gives about You Tube but he doesn't appear to utilize it other then to promote himself. I found this channel interesting, ordinary Russians (sometimes) giving their opinion about the current "draft." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqPUZlTlYa0 And this is a discussion about some cultural differences by a college aged student. My original home country used to send out an annual book about themselves during the 1950's. The first thing I noticed was that in all the photos nobody was smiling, In fact during my four visits to see family there was never a single smile by any of them. So it is a cultural thing that I always attributed o never letting others know what you were feeling or thinking. It seems like Arindam is well suited to living under a totalitarian communist regime since even in his words here there is never a smile. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJCHXnCRgts
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-19 23:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <85a48f49-2b9c-44a7-9d12-c9243d230b6cn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #863254 |
On Thursday, 20 October 2022 at 16:07:20 UTC+11, whodat wrote: > On 10/19/2022 7:07 PM, whodat wrote: > > On 10/19/2022 12:33 AM, whodat wrote: > >> On 10/18/2022 7:43 PM, Michael Moroney wrote: > >>> On 10/16/2022 7:55 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>>> Clean thinking will lead to great living. > >>>> > >>> It does. You need to clean up your thought processes, big time! (but > >>> you won't. Your loss) > Arindam is too busy attacking those who recommend that he find out what > the Russians actually think or his proposed "science" and crashing > armatures that he doesn't bother to find out what everyday Russians > think about the war they are in. Videos show solid support for Putin from his countrymen. > It is clear to see that they are very > careful how they parse their ideas. I am familiar with the verbiage > because I visited my family behind the slightly relaxed iron curtain > three times in the 1980's and once in 2000 after the iron curtain had > dropped. I see, whodat is probably a back-stabbing traitor-type. What a surprise. > > It is surprising because of the wonderful reports he gives about You > Tube but he doesn't appear to utilize it other then to promote himself. I have just started to promote myself. Long way to go, what with hostiles all around. > > I found this channel interesting, ordinary Russians (sometimes) giving > their opinion about the current "draft." > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqPUZlTlYa0 > > And this is a discussion about some cultural differences by a college > aged student. My original home country used to send out an annual book > about themselves during the 1950's. The first thing I noticed was that > in all the photos nobody was smiling, In fact during my four visits to > see family there was never a single smile by any of them. So it is a > cultural thing that I always attributed o never letting others know what > you were feeling or thinking. It seems like Arindam is well suited to > living under a totalitarian communist regime since even in his words > here there is never a smile. Ignorant rubbish from the whodumbo renegade. I saw Russian movies as a kid, and they are the funniest I remember. Maybe there was a hierarchy, low class chaps like whodumbo had no privileges unlike the high class sorts who came to India. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJCHXnCRgts
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| From | "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> |
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| Date | 2022-10-19 01:23 -0700 |
| Subject | Dictatorships rule. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.19--1.23am.Seattle.2022> |
| In reply to | #863219 |
Around the world, North South, East West, dictatorships rule. Feeding the military industrial complex is their primary concern; Ukraine is just collateral damage.
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-19 03:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5e8af337-983e-474c-a9ee-4c5bc1098db7n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #863219 |
Continuing... for general good > Right now, Zelensky is the Winston Churchill of Ukraine. UK was in a much better position than Ukraine, with the EC and the RN. Churchill was an evil racist warmonger, so no wonder Moroney loves him. Exactly what > Ukraine needed at their time of crisis. I wonder how long Ukraine would > have lasted if he bailed out and took that helicopter ride offered to > him on the first day. They would have been far, far better off now had Zelensky legged it. Putin would not have destroyed it. Just put in his own puppet, replacing the US puppet nakedly serving US MI interests. Cheap gas, as usual, autonomy for Donbass. No joining NATO. Nothing unusual about retreat, US legged it from Vietnam and Afghanistan. The US turned tail in 1971, in the Bay of Bengal, after seeing Soviet subs. Ukrainians would not have been bombed, driven out by the millions, killed by the hundred thousand, factories destroyed, etc. in a hopeless, useless war where they are mere pawns to make rich Americans richer and the rest better off by trickle-down. NATO countries would not suffer from energy shortages, inflation and now I hear toilet paper shortage as Russian pulp is not available. UK is going down the toilet. Trump says inflation and gas prices are high in the US. There is threat of WW3 if Russia starts to use nukes as a final resort. > > Only some impartial agency can tell who killed whom, after proper investigation. > More Russian troll talk. The answer is already obvious and known. Not at all. > > Russians don't gain by torturing and killing Ukrainians. > So why do they do it? No impartial proof they did it. > > Ukrainians gain by torturing and killing suspected pro-Russia Russians in Ukraine. > No, they don't. Everyone in Ukraine speaks Russian. Ukraine is trying to > reunite Ukraine, no reason to torture their own citizens. Plus these > torture chambers and mass graves were all found in Russian controlled > areas just liberated. The Ukrainians never had a chance to torture > anyone, not that they ever would. The Ukrainians could be expected to torture and kill those among them they would suspect of helping the Russian invaders. They have the record of torturing and killing Poles in the WW2. > > > Motive is there. > > For the Russians, they're following in the footsteps of the Red Army and > their scorched earth policy. Not to begin with. They got bogged down and blown up. Yes, they are not good at invasions, and de-establisations, unlike the NATO/US. But as they are tenacious they will win ultimately. > > 'Similarly there is motive for US to blow up the pipeline. > > Price gouging! > Making Europe weaker will hurt US interests. Again that's 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 > propaganda. US will make money from selling gas very high to Europe. Their loss is US gain. Simple. > >>> > >>> There is enough talk on youtube sources pointing out that the NATO/US sabotaged the pipeline. > >> Youtube as your source??? > > > > Not just the videos, but also the comments, yes. > > Youtube is a fantastic source, > With as many 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 trolls as everywhere else. No, people who value truth for its own sake know who is lying and who is not. You are for instance a confirmed liar, but as Poirot said, even a liar makes sense somehow with his lying. > > as it carries my revolutionary videos. > More evidence why Youtube is a garbage source. See, what a surly lying racist+bigoted cretin you are? Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYtyOMbgiZ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6pjy0Wvujs&t=19s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc&t=2s of my invention and discovery, which can be done by anyone. No wonder Russia is the champion for people like me! They are not surly lying racist and bigoted cretins like you, Moroney. I have very fond memories of them. More so, when contrasted with the Western racists who robbed whatever they could from wherever. > > > >> Good grief. It's typical Russian action, do > >> something outrageous and blame the opposition of doing it. > > > > No, it is US action to lie tremendously. Just look at you, how much you and other usans here have been lying about my works in physics. Russians value truth and morality, you lot value money and power. > 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 propaganda. Russia always lies. No, they believe in pravda or truth. Much like Indians. > > As for lies: > > The 911 for instance. > Oh good grief. You're a kooktard as well? No, an engineer. > > The Moon landings, a hoax to many. > That answers that question. Raises one, why do do liars like Moroney expect to be believed? > > I wonder about the depth of the footprints, caused by some 120Kg weight on Arizona desert to look at. Rather than 15Kg on Moon. > And you examined the dust surface on the moon to see how deep footprints > would actually sink? Evidently the lander feed would have sunk a lot more than shown, if the dust surface was that soft.
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-19 05:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f18b090f-71ef-428b-be49-5e03cbdc5b07n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #863219 |
again continuing... > > If Russia was part of NATO and EU they would all have done well. > > Question is, why this mess? > Because Putin is a megalomaniac looking to establish the USSR V2.0. Silly answer. Putin is a responsible leader. Any responsible leader would do what he has done. His first duty is to protect his nation. If US thought that Mexico would be filled with nuke rockets under a hostile rogue government, they would invade Mexico, if they could acquire sufficient balls. They did invade Cuba, on the cheap, for similar reasons, but that failed. (Bay of Pigs fiasco) When India invaded East Pakistan, it was not to increase India's land area but to help the locals fight off the genocidal Pakistani US-supported invaders. > > The answer is that some greedy people in the West want to loot Russia's resources for their own pockets. > > And they use NATO for doing that. > > They will feed the voters with the trickle-down, from robbery. > 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 propaganda. No, it is fact. The USSR was robbed by the West using their puppets for ruling the former states, and those were happy looting times for the West. Putin put in the spanner to such works, so the West's hatred for Putin. > > > >>>>> Putin was not around then, not in such a big position anyway. > >>>>> If Russia was part of NATO along with Ukraine then there would be no war today. All happy. > >>>> Russia actually tried joining but didn't meet the requirements. > >>> > >>>> What would have happened if NATO member Russia fell under Putin and he > >>>> wanted to go empire building like he's trying to do now? Interesting > >>>> thought. > > > > He is getting back what belongs to him, as he thinks. Redrawing boundaries, because he can. > No, that's the reason for the UN, to resolve disputes. If Putin *really* > thought Ukraine abused Russians or shouldn't have Crimea for some > reason, they should have gone there. But there was no such abuse, it's > an excuse. The UN cannot resolve disputes. Impossible with the veto system. The whole place belonged to Russia. Ukraine was part of USSR. They got independence with the agreement they would stay neutral. Then US interference put in a rogue corrupt government in a violent coup, and after the Russian puppet was forced out, an US puppet installed with the purpose of attacking Russia in due course, the hostilities against Russians in Ukraine started. There has been civil war in the Donbass area for 8 years. Persecuted Russians were fighting there, and as per Russian sources 50000 people were killed in the battles. Crimea voted to join Russia, and their water supply was blocked. According to Prof. Mearsheimer, the invasion was directly the fault of the US/NATO. He does not look Russian to me. He claims to be a Prof. in International Politics, ad from what he said, he evidently knows what he is talking about. > > The whole idea behind EU was to stop the redrawing of boundaries with war. > The UN you mean. > > EU put a stop to that. > > > But neither Russian nor Ukraine are part of EU, let alone NATO. > But both are part of the UN. Irrelevant. UN is useless to solve military conflicts. They can do peacekeeping but there has to be some peace first. > > So it is a question of might. Whoever is stronger, wins. International politics works like that. > That's completely wrong in a civilized society! What would you do if > your neighbor and his relatives occupied half your house, trashed the > place and refused to leave? Accept it because he and his relatives are > more powerful than you? What would a resident of a civilized society do? Stupid analogy. My neighbour cannot do that as there is the police, the council, the press, the politicians, the law etc. Yes if all that did not exist as it does here in Melbourne, I would pay protection money to the mafia. I pay rates and taxes to the equivalent of the mafia, the council/state gov/fed govt to be left in peace. That is how it works in a civilized state, Moroney. Where the mafia is suave. US invades other countries because it can. Russia is doing just that. Might is right at the highest level. US invades to make money. Russia for internal security and land gains. > >>> Putin is not building empires. > >> He most certainly is! He wanted to restore the Soviet Union/become the > >> new Peter the Great. He tried to annex all of Ukraine, Moldova certainly > >> was next, then he had his eyes on Poland and the Baltic states. Who > >> knows how he would have tried to do that, an outright attack would > >> trigger NATO Article 5. > > > > He will get half of Ukraine, Odessa, Kharkov, the Transnistria, yes, once he gets going. > Get going with what? He has to resort to tanks which have been rusting > away/raided for 50 years, throwing untrained conscripts at the front > line untrained, etc. They are the most pathetic army possible! Even if he loses all he has gained, thanks to top NATO weaponry and intelligence, he will get it all back. He will not stop, nor will his successors, to get what they want. They will fight for as long as it takes. I was brought up among them, so I know what they are like. Indomitable. So, better have them on your side. > > Putin will have a neutral Ukraine, halved. > With what? See a map of the area. Russia is big, has no debt, plenty of resources, large population, support of India and China and the thirdworld. > > Whatever not covered by NATO he cannot get. > > The USSR will not come back, as they do not like Marx any more, but Putin will create a bigger, better Russia, yes. The hope and darling of the thirdworld, Russia. > Russia has been threatening a food crisis by withholding Ukrainian grain > exports. The third world should hate him for that. More likely they will hate NATO for starting the war. > > > >>> He is protecting Russia from getting into the Yeltsin state of treachery and corruption, decay and dissolution. > > >> So they now have the Putin state of treachery and corruption, decay and > >> dissolution. > > > > It is much better, as I understood after being in Russian for 7 nights. > You said that was 2018? How about now, after 4 more years of Putin's > oligarchs raiding the place plus the damage from the war/sanctions. Putin is I believe an honest man. One reason for his success is that he has put the oligarchs of the Yeltsin era out of business, and replaced them with his own henchpersons. Russia has been on the rise since he came to power, and after 4 years since 2018 will be doing even better. Sanctions have hurt but not crippled Russia, as was forecast by the West. They were sanctioned before, but Putin pointed out that they helped Russia to become more self-reliant so it was a blessing really. Like, they grow more fruits! > >>> He understands that NATO is pure evil, as it rejected Russia. > >> "Pure evil"? You really lap up that Russian propaganda! > > > > Yes, that is what Putin probably thinks. > And you lap it up. NATO - a violent composition and representation of Western elites - is pure evil, see what they did to Iraq under Saddam. And Libya. > > > >>> NATO in Ukraine would mean threats, and replacing his honest and sincere nationalist self with some pet puppet of the West in Moscow, so as to loot Russia. > >> As a defensive alignment, NATO would be harmless to a peaceful Russia. > > > > Not at all, they have been arming Ukraine for 8 years > After Ukraine was attacked. Ukraine was attacked in February. NATO has been arming Ukraine for years. Which is why they could stop the Russian tanks with advanced weapons. From where did they get the Javelin missiles? > > and would have put missiles there to attack Moscow. NATO is the military arm of the West, can switch to offense in a nanosecond. > Not their mission. As I said, that can change in a nanosecond. > > Once Ukraine joined NATO, Putin could not attack Ukraine, just have a rogue armed state at his underbelly. An intolerable situation. No US President could allow that. In an similar situation they would have behaved exactly as Putin did. > Yet Putin has been the best salesman for NATO ever! After Chechnya, the > Baltic States and Poland decided they'd better join NATO or they're > next. After the second invasion of Ukraine, Sweden and Finland decided > the same thing. And Georgia and Ukraine want to join. (Ukraine wanted to > join before but they didn't qualify, like Russia) Irrelevant to my point. To repeat: Once Ukraine joined NATO, Putin could not attack Ukraine, just have a rogue armed state at his underbelly. An intolerable situation. No US President could allow that. In an similar situation they would have behaved exactly as Putin did. > > > >>>>> So there were some deep murky issues involved with NOT letting Russian join NATO. > >>>> All I know is they didn't qualify. > > heh. They evidently had no chance. NATO is there to rob them, not help them. > What about not letting Ukraine join when they wanted to? More useful as a patsy, Ukraine. > >>> > >>> I know that NATO is evil and so could not exist with the good Russia. > > >> Russia certainly is no longer "good", if they ever became good under > >> Yeltsin. > > Russians were good for the West under Yeltsin and his oligarchs, who robbed Russia enormously. > > NATO had to remain, for the robbery to continue. > > But Putin put a stop to that. > 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 propaganda. No, plain fact. Yeltsin devastated Russia, let the West loot Russia. Russians were driven to despair. > >>> That is why they could not let Russia in. > >>> If they did that, there would be in due course no point for their existence. > >>> The generals would lose their jobs, and the MI complex with their corrupt associates in govt. suffer. > >>> They don't want peace. They want war elsewhere to keep their jobs and perks. > >> Which is why Russia makes NATO to be "evil" as you put it. The Russian > >> generals didn't want to give up their power. > > They die bravely in battle unlike the US generals, who do make the other poor devil die for his country, but don't win wars with such clever ideas any more. > The Russian soldiers for the most part don't even want to be there! The > military even lied to them! I am talking of the brave Russian generals, so different from the clever American generals who do their fighting while playing golf safely in US. Putin says he is not taking any more soldiers, he has got the 300000 he wanted and they will soon be on their way. > > Meanwhile the Ukrainians are defending their homeland. Which would not have needed defending had they retained their wits regarding Russians and Americans. Observers say, they were corrupt and greedy, and that made them Americanised to the most foolish extent. Now, they are the patsy, fighting for the US MI complex to the last Ukrainian. Belarus, for instance, is not getting the same treatment as their leader is sensible of realities. > >>> I am talking of the quality of your twisted mind, which sees fiction as fact, and fact as fiction, as it suits. > >>> Very Einsteinian. > >>> > >> How could what I wrote be twisted? > > You wrote so many lies, such as Putin being a dictator. > He certainly is! (don't forget Hitler was legally elected, too) Hitler abolished the parliament, made all swear personal loyalty to him. Putin has done nothing like that. He was elected repeatedly, and has the support of his parliament and his people. See, how you are lying. > > A twisted mind cannot but lie, as it cannot see any truth. > So Putin has a twisted mind? I agree! No, he is pretty clear and straight. You have a twisted mind. > > > > > >> I'll tell you what's twisted, trying > >> to link this situation to Einstein somehow. > > > > > > No, all situations go back to that bungler, who warped the whole universe with his wrong, silly theories! > You have monomania as well, IMO. Everything is because of Einstein. > > Thinking a lie is truth, as a basic construct, is a sore quality issue. > > That needs to be straightened. > And the poor Russian people can't straighten things out, not with one > side propaganda. These days they have internet, no Soviet era censorship. They can travel freely. So they know what is what. > > This is a physics ng, and the idea for me here is to get rid of the Einstein e=mcc=hv virus, by showing its toxic socio-political effects upon the brainwashed minds. > Monomania. > > Clean thinking will lead to great living. > > > It does. You need to clean up your thought processes, big time! (but you > won't. Your loss) I certainly keep my thought processes clean and straight, so I win what I want, with the blessings of the Gods and Goddesses. Not that beating your twisted mind, as I have done, is any gain for me. It is a public duty for the good of all animal, mineral and vegetable. > > > Since so much of what you write is 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 propaganda, and I > cannot sweep back that ocean of lies, it's probably best to just leave > you to fester in your pit of evil thoughts. My thoughts are not evil. I am all for peace. As Gen. MacArthur said, surrender is the best policy to the far superior foe. The Japanese did that, and look at them now. Yours, that relate to making Ukrainians fight to the last Ukrainian, for US interests, surpasses all currently held notions of evil.
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-13 15:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <93b34850-204f-486b-9a8b-df9070124749n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #862935 |
> > The joke in 2024: > > Putin: How is NATO doing? > > General: We are bombing New York. > Hah! If Russia did something like that, they'd be ERASED militarily by > NATO, or even just the US. And that's without resorting to nukes! > > > > Explanatory note of above joke for the resident morons: NATO had expelled US, joined Russia, and now teaching the US a lesson in good manners albeit in the US style. > Oh good grief. :-)
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| From | "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> |
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| Date | 2022-10-08 02:08 -0700 |
| Subject | The damage done to Russia's Crimean bridge. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--2.08am.Seattle.2022> |
| In reply to | #862737 |
The damage done to Russia's Crimean bridge is evidence that America now allows Ukraine to use longer-range missiles, but the targets must be CIA approved. Eventually, the CIA will have to take out all dictators who speak of nuking America's allies.
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| From | "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> |
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| Date | 2022-10-08 15:00 -0700 |
| Subject | Come 2024... |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.8--3.00pm.Seattle.2022> |
| In reply to | #862740 |
You ( Hugh Huntzinger ) replied ( to me ): > > The damage done to Russia's Crimean bridge is evidence that > > America now allows Ukraine to use longer-range missiles. > > Except for how it wasn’t a missile. True, one of Putin's "friends" did it. Come 2024, the CIA should take out all dictators who dream of nuking America's allies.
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-07 22:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <thqphj$1349$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #862666 |
On 10/7/2022 3:30 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > Such as the feigned retreat, mastered by the Mongols. Which is what the Russians have done. Strategic retreat; draw them in and then finish them. Nice point. How the hell did you know about that technique utilized to perfection by the Mongols? Mongols didn't touch India. I know about that strategy cause I've read Joveyni's account of Mongols, which is in Persian. I doubt you know Persian and I'm not aware of an English translation of joveyni's work. A good part of Mongols cavalry rode horses _without_ saddles. This was for a very important and clever reason. The ones with saddles were the ones that the enemy would see first! So the enemy would get the idea from the beginning of the battle that all Mongol cavalry were saddled. So the former naturally assumed the fleeing Mongol cavalry's weakest point was their "6" so to speak. If you could place yourself right behind the fleeing horseman, you'd be almost sure you'll kill him soon. All you needed to do was to get close enough for an accurate arrow shoot. And the fleeing Mongols let you gradually get close enough :) Mongols used this fact to their great advantage over and over in hundreds of different battles in different countries. Part of their military training was to train and maintain enough horsemen who could ride horses without saddles. This meant much more work in learning to ride horses, but in return gave them flexibility in turning 180 degrees while on the horse and aim well and shoot arrows at the enemy that was chasing them. In fact all their practices were identical for shooting arrows backwards and forward with exact same accuracy and skill, while fleeing from (or chasing the) enemy. In the rare event that the chasing cavalry discovered the trick and stopped and began riding back to their main battle area, the Mongols would now turn back and chased _them_! Being a good distance away from their fellow soldiers and having Mongols chasing them at their "6", was always decisive. None of them would make it back. Has Joveyni's book been translated to Hindu? -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-08 04:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <25350781-703e-4c98-8bd1-205505727430n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #862711 |
On Saturday, 8 October 2022 at 14:07:37 UTC+11, Physfitfreak wrote: > On 10/7/2022 3:30 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > > Such as the feigned retreat, mastered by the Mongols. Which is what the Russians have done. Strategic retreat; draw them in and then finish them. > Nice point. > > How the hell did you know about that technique utilized to perfection by > the Mongols? Mongols didn't touch India. Genghis Khan did not. As a pagan he probably respected India's pagan culture. However after the Mongols became Muslims they did attack India. The Mongols were repulsed by the rulers of the Delhi Sultanate, around 1290 or so, until Taimur Lang succeeded with his extraordinary cruelty in 1398 or so. Babar was the Mongol who started the Mughal or Mogol as called in Bengal, in 1526. It peaked around 1700 but declined soon after, becoming extinct in 1858. > > I know about that strategy cause I've read Joveyni's account of Mongols, > which is in Persian. I doubt you know Persian and I'm not aware of an > English translation of joveyni's work. Youtube videos are my guide. Like the battles of Khalkin Gor and Mohacs. But the feigned retreat strategy is very old. You should know about Carrhae. Crassus fell a victim to this tactic. His son chased retreating archers and that was fatal. I had in my mind Cannae, about the deliberate retreat by Hannibal to draw the Romans in before surrounding and killing all 65000 of them. Putin may have heard of this tactic. > A good part of Mongols cavalry rode horses _without_ saddles. This was > for a very important and clever reason. The ones with saddles were the > ones that the enemy would see first! So the enemy would get the idea > from the beginning of the battle that all Mongol cavalry were saddled. > So the former naturally assumed the fleeing Mongol cavalry's weakest > point was their "6" so to speak. If you could place yourself right > behind the fleeing horseman, you'd be almost sure you'll kill him soon. > All you needed to do was to get close enough for an accurate arrow > shoot. And the fleeing Mongols let you gradually get close enough :) > > Mongols used this fact to their great advantage over and over in > hundreds of different battles in different countries. Part of their > military training was to train and maintain enough horsemen who could > ride horses without saddles. This meant much more work in learning to > ride horses, but in return gave them flexibility in turning 180 degrees > while on the horse and aim well and shoot arrows at the enemy that was > chasing them. In fact all their practices were identical for shooting > arrows backwards and forward with exact same accuracy and skill, while > fleeing from (or chasing the) enemy. A most brilliant strategy. Really the enemy had no chance against riders who could swivel around. Much later, around 1385, the Hungarians countered this with heavy armour, sticking together and building fortifications, soundly defeating the Mongol invaders. > > In the rare event that the chasing cavalry discovered the trick and > stopped and began riding back to their main battle area, the Mongols > would now turn back and chased _them_! Being a good distance away from > their fellow soldiers and having Mongols chasing them at their "6", was > always decisive. None of them would make it back. Yes of course. Thanks, you made it pretty graphic. Well, Iranians should know a lot about Mongols. > > Has Joveyni's book been translated to Hindu? It is Hindi the language and Hindu the religion. I never heard of J* till now. > > > > > > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com
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| From | Physfit Freak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-08 22:42 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #862741 |
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 6:08:25 AM UTC-5, banerjee...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > I know about that strategy cause I've read Joveyni's account of Mongols, > > which is in Persian. I doubt you know Persian and I'm not aware of an > > English translation of joveyni's work. > > Youtube videos are my guide. Yet another way to see the difference between a scientist and an "engineer". Scientist goes to the source, "engineer" goes to youtube.
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| From | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-10-08 23:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a479ed6e-4a65-4dd9-8303-8808aeba3f06n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #862778 |
On Sunday, 9 October 2022 at 16:42:23 UTC+11, Physfit Freak wrote: > On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 6:08:25 AM UTC-5, banerjee...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > I know about that strategy cause I've read Joveyni's account of Mongols, > > > which is in Persian. I doubt you know Persian and I'm not aware of an > > > English translation of joveyni's work. > > > > Youtube videos are my guide. > Yet another way to see the difference between a scientist and an "engineer". Scientist goes to the source, "engineer" goes to youtube. Alas, Roachie, no scientists around online, or else they would have much appreciated my seminal works in physics. Really, no scientists around in mainstream modern physics, not at all, anywhere, all institutionalised frauds, corrupt to their careerist cores. Whatever you do must conform to their dogmas. They have turned physics into a religion, blister their insides as PGW would say.
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