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  String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-03-27 21:39 -0700
    Re: String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 21:41 -0700
      String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-03-27 21:48 -0700
        String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 06:10 -0700
          Re: String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 08:33 -0500
            Re: String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-28 08:49 -0500
            Re: String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-03-28 14:37 -0700
              Re: String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-28 16:05 -0700
                Re: String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-03-30 13:03 -0700
                  Re: String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-03-30 13:35 -0700
              Re: Infinity is a somewhat useful notion; empirically, it's can't be. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 19:24 -0400
                tessimals noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 18:23 -0700
          Re: String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 18:52 +0000
            Space _And Time are growing exponentially. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-03-28 15:45 -0700
              Re: Space _And Time are growing exponentially. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-28 16:34 -0700
                Re: Space _And Time are growing exponentially. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 21:21 -0400
                  Re: Space _And Time are growing exponentially. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-28 18:37 -0700
        Re: String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:06 -0700
          prrepackageding noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 14:40 -0700

#625495 — String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged.

String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged.

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#625496

why because it is 1+9 dimensional, you thibnk?

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#625498

> > String Theory is Ptolemaic astronomy, repackaged.
> 
> Why, because it's 1+9 dimensional ?

No, because both are unwieldly kluges desinged to
shoe horn in an UltraBiased, HumanCentric point of view.

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#625531

Jeff
"
shoe horn in an UltraBiased, HumanCentric point of view. "
Right from the first time Man proposed 'how things
are/work',
we've always been the Center,
there's always been a Beginning.
HumanCentric messes up Science.

One of my beefs is "universal expansion".
Not gonna happen.
Have to have a Center.
Otherwise everything starts running into
each other right away- like a Cancer.
So- if we're seeing Universal Expansion,
either WE are the Center, or it's a trick of
Light.

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#625538

On 3/28/2017 8:10 AM, john wrote:
> One of my beefs is "universal expansion".
> Not gonna happen.
> Have to have a Center.
> Otherwise everything starts running into
> each other right away- like a Cancer.

Whaaaaaat? How on earth do you get that?????

Let's start with basics.
Take an infinitely long stick. Are you agreed that an infinitely long 
stick has no center?

> So- if we're seeing Universal Expansion,
> either WE are the Center, or it's a trick of
> Light.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#625540

On 3/28/2017 8:33 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/28/2017 8:10 AM, john wrote:
>> One of my beefs is "universal expansion".
>> Not gonna happen.
>> Have to have a Center.
>> Otherwise everything starts running into
>> each other right away- like a Cancer.
>
> Whaaaaaat? How on earth do you get that?????
>
> Let's start with basics.
> Take an infinitely long stick. Are you agreed that an infinitely long
> stick has no center?


Stick Questions;

How would you know, or find out, it was infinitely long ?

Wouldn't the one who built the stick have to be infinitely fast ?

And if it started out with a center while building it, where would the 
center go when finished ?

Would it have no center, or would it all be center ?  or both ?

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#625659

On Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 6:33:53 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 3/28/2017 8:10 AM, john wrote:
> > One of my beefs is "universal expansion".
> > Not gonna happen.
> > Have to have a Center.
> > Otherwise everything starts running into
> > each other right away- like a Cancer.
> 
> Whaaaaaat? How on earth do you get that?????
> 
> Let's start with basics.
> Take an infinitely long stick. Are you agreed that an infinitely long 
> stick has no center?


Infinity does not exist.

Double-A

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#625703

Double-A" AA, <double-a3@hush.com>, alias  Mr. "Abner Afterduft"
( = Yiddish for "Asshole Aroma") is an "Alcoholic Addict", and not
only Glazier's "Ass Angel", but also Bert's "Asshole Ambassador",
"Anal Advocate" & "Aberrant Analyst" as the "Double-Asshole"
who yearns to be like Full Swine Glazier, & also wanted hanson
to stop posting & be dead, like Hate monger Glazier does, to whom

Abner daily sucks up to, since there is a scatological homoerotic 
attraction factor involved between Bert & Abner, ever since Glazier 
promissed to bequeath Glazier's stinky Van and Pail to Abner, 
now  complained about the asylum that Abner is incarcerated in,
just  wrote, .. that ...
>
Abner, the filthy kike, will never achieve his yearend for goal of
being like Swine Glazier, goes full bore with shitting into s.p 
with his <http://tinyurl.com/Blog-of-2-fecal-kikes-Mar2017>

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#625985

On Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 4:06:15 PM UTC-7, hanson wrote:
> Double-A" AA, <double-a3@hush.com>, alias  Mr. "Abner Afterduft"
> ( = Yiddish for "Asshole Aroma") is an "Alcoholic Addict", and not
> only Glazier's "Ass Angel", but also Bert's "Asshole Ambassador",
> "Anal Advocate" & "Aberrant Analyst" as the "Double-Asshole"
> who yearns to be like Full Swine Glazier, & also wanted hanson
> to stop posting & be dead, like Hate monger Glazier does, to whom
> 
> Abner daily sucks up to, since there is a scatological homoerotic 
> attraction factor involved between Bert & Abner, ever since Glazier 
> promissed to bequeath Glazier's stinky Van and Pail to Abner, 
> now  complained about the asylum that Abner is incarcerated in,
> just  wrote, .. that ...
> >
> Abner, the filthy kike, will never achieve his yearend for goal of
> being like Swine Glazier, goes full bore with shitting into s.p 
> with his <http://tinyurl.com/Blog-of-2-fecal-kikes-Mar2017>


How do you type all these posts anyway while wearing your Ravencraig straightjacket?  Do you type with a pencil held between your teeth?  Do you type with your feet?  Or maybe you type with a pencil sticking out from your ass!

Double-A

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#626000

Double-A" AA, <double-a3@hush.com>, alias  Mr. "Abner Afterduft"
( = Yiddish for "Asshole Aroma") is an "Alcoholic Addict", and not
only Glazier's "Ass Angel", but also Bert's "Asshole Ambassador",
"Anal Advocate" & "Aberrant Analyst" as the "Double-Asshole"
who yearns to be like Full Swine Glazier, & also wanted hanson
to stop posting & be dead, like Hate monger Glazier does, to whom

Abner daily sucks up to, since there is a scatological homoerotic 
attraction factor involved between Bert & Abner, ever since Glazier 
promissed to bequeath Glazier's stinky Van and Pail to Abner, 
now  complained about the asylum that Abner is incarcerated in,
just  wrote, .. that ...
>
Abner being a severely deranged kike came back to continue to,
and already does, soil s.p with being the chief culprit in the
 <http://tinyurl.com/Blog-of-2-fecal-kikes-Mar2017>
>
... and Abner carried on  with his fecal behavior of Jewish Supremacy
lamenting about some "Ravencraig in his straightjacket, with a 
pencil sticking out from Abnert ass!"
>
hanson wrote:
Abner, by demonstrating your Jewish Supremacy you should at
least spell right the name of asylum that Abner is incarcerated in.
With you making a typo & posting "Ravencraig" you confused
and gave stirrings into the loins of 

Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>, the "Rectal Vacuumist (Seattle) who is a criminal
Child-support dead-beat who greedily sucks turds out of Glazier's
sphincter, especially when they are Methamphetamine preloaded
as seen when Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>::JR:: wrote:
::JR:: I no longer want sex anymore.  I  masturbate. I've found  that
::JR:: all these erections & masturbations can irratate my prostate.
::JR:: My problem mostly happens a few hours before I want to
::JR:: wake up, so I can't take Sudafed.
::JR:: Ejaculation is a mind-altering drug, no better than heroin
::JR:: or meth.    So I've recently vowed to not masturbate...
::JR:: I use my left hand to smoke, masturbate and to type ...
::JR:: Does that make me smart ? --  I'd rather masturbate.
::JR:: She likes to squirt meth up her rear ( it makes her cum).
::JR:: but pussy is the last thing I want.
::::::: (cuz Relf is apparently interested now, with his "mouth wide
:::::::  open", to let Swine Glazier shit into Relf's "kisser")
::JR:: My dreams, however, have been semi-erotic as of late..."
> 
So, Abner, let me remind where you really are a "client" at:
<http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Ravencrag>
<http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Hanson>
and so that your fellow fecalist Relf can continue to masturbate.
>
>
... & most of all, your pig.... thanks for the laughs...ahahahahanson

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#625709 — Re: Infinity is a somewhat useful notion; empirically, it's can't be.

On 3/28/2017 7:14 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Infinity is a somewhat useful notion; empirically, it's can't be.


Rolf you must be eating smart pills! They are starting to work!

Say it right: Infinity is a useful mathematical notions but empirically 
in science it does not exist. (by royal decree according to Odd)

(Actually it does not exist in mathematics either but that is a 
discussion beyond the scope of this newsgroup.)

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#625737 — tessimals

ten-adic infinity is ...9999.o, that is to say,
minus one, so that i is the secondr00t,
probably easier to calculate in base_t00, and
not so easy in base_0ne.  I think,
it is true that any decimal in any base,
repeating across the decimal, is zero, but
it is certainly true for ...9999.9999...

> (Actually it does not exist in mathematics either but that is a 
> discussion beyond the scope of this newsgroup.)

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#625623

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>One of my beefs is "universal expansion".
>Not gonna happen.
>Have to have a Center.
>Otherwise everything starts running into
>each other right away- like a Cancer.

Why do you believe that?

>So- if we're seeing Universal Expansion,
>either WE are the Center, or it's a trick of
>Light.

Tell me, where is the center of the surface of the Earth? No, I
did *not* say the center of the earth thousands of miles below
our feet.  The center of the *surface* of the Earth.  You should
be able to take a globe and put your finger on the spot, or just
tell me the latitude/longitude of whereever it is.  Of course,
you'll have to tell me why the center is the center.

As to expansion, repeat the same thing with a balloon, where
is the center of its surface, and why.  Imagine that balloon
being blown up, getting larger and larger. Does that change the
answer? Why?

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#625697 — Space _And Time are growing exponentially.

Michael Moroney replied to John Sefton:
> > if we're seeing Universal Expansion,
> > either WE are the Center, or it's a trick of Light.
> 
> Tell me, where is the center of the surface of the Earth?

Our horizon is subjective, we're _always at the center.

The MetaCosmos is forever evaporating, dispersing, thinnning out;
so, according to General Relativity, the standard/natural yardstick
is growing exponentially and the standard/natural clock accelerates;
i.e. Space _And Time are growing exponentially.

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#625715 — Re: Space _And Time are growing exponentially.

On 3/28/17, 3:45 PM, in article Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--3.45P.Seattle.2017,
"<Jeff-Relf.Me  @.>" <> wrote:

> Michael Moroney replied to John Sefton:
>>> if we're seeing Universal Expansion,
>>> either WE are the Center, or it's a trick of Light.
>> 
>> Tell me, where is the center of the surface of the Earth?
> 
> Our horizon is subjective, we're _always at the center.

Ah, that is why you think you are the center of the universe. :)

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#625739 — Re: Space _And Time are growing exponentially.

On 3/28/2017 7:34 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 3/28/17, 3:45 PM, in article Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--3.45P.Seattle.2017,
> "<Jeff-Relf.Me  @.>" <> wrote:
>
>> Michael Moroney replied to John Sefton:
>>>> if we're seeing Universal Expansion,
>>>> either WE are the Center, or it's a trick of Light.
>>>
>>> Tell me, where is the center of the surface of the Earth?
>>
>> Our horizon is subjective, we're _always at the center.
>
> Ah, that is why you think you are the center of the universe. :)
>
No doubt it is. You see, snit, that the center of the universe is 
located everywhere simultaneously. If that sounds like illogical insane 
nonsense that must obviously be one of Odd's "textbook" theories, you 
would be absolutely correct. It is.

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#625742 — Re: Space _And Time are growing exponentially.

On 3/28/17, 6:21 PM, in article
58db0c29$0$18136$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com, "benj"
<benj@nobody.net> wrote:

> On 3/28/2017 7:34 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 3/28/17, 3:45 PM, in article Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.28--3.45P.Seattle.2017,
>> "<Jeff-Relf.Me  @.>" <> wrote:
>> 
>>> Michael Moroney replied to John Sefton:
>>>>> if we're seeing Universal Expansion,
>>>>> either WE are the Center, or it's a trick of Light.
>>>> 
>>>> Tell me, where is the center of the surface of the Earth?
>>> 
>>> Our horizon is subjective, we're _always at the center.
>> 
>> Ah, that is why you think you are the center of the universe. :)
>> 
> No doubt it is. You see, snit, that the center of the universe is
> located everywhere simultaneously. If that sounds like illogical insane
> nonsense that must obviously be one of Odd's "textbook" theories, you
> would be absolutely correct. It is.

I have linked to science articles talking about that in the past on my
Facebook page making similar jokes.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#625598

the only real problem is to get rid
of the compactified dimensions,
that is to find a prossaical model,
where all of the nine dimensions are alikem,
with respect to the other.  as of the momentbeing,
I only know that four spatial dimensions can
be arrayed isometrically, but
that is really the same as ordinary spatiality
in homogenous coordinates

> > Why, because it's 1+9 dimensional ?
> No, because both are unwieldly kluges desinged to
> shoe horn in an UltraBiased, HumanCentric point of view.

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#625853 — prrepackageding

I'm almost sure -- don't read much stringtheory, really -- that
the nine dimensions are all mathematically the same ... I mean,
the ten dimensions in the 1+ten theory of Witten et al;
time is just not at all spatial, other than graphing, and
that just means that you don't have enough paper for the flipb00k

> where all of the ten dimensions are alike,
> with respect to the other.  as of the momentbeing,
> I only know that four spatial dimensions can
> be arrayed isometrically, but
> that is really the same as ordinary spatiality
> in homogenous coordinates
> 
> > > Why, because it's 10- + 1-ary ?

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