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Re: USA is deeply wrecked

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 07:40:24 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
wrote in <0695a0c98a298e31f24e0137beac8eab@www.novabbs.org>:

> On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 16:35:47 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
>> On 3/21/25 11:50 PM, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 0:00:49 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/21/25 2:46 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>>> Today I had the idea to buy the USA dip,
>>>>> like buying a little NASDAQ stocks or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> But then I read about the closing of the department of education,
>>>>> which was distributing 30 billion PELL GRANTS, which is around 150
>>>>> USD wealth
>>>>>
>>>>> redistribution per capita. So I think USA is fucked,
>>>>> and it will only get worse and worse. Mostlikely the timeing is bad
>>>>> taking other seasonal effects
>>>>>
>>>>> into account, and 2025 will not recover. Thats my hypothesis, since
>>>>> month May is too near already.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The university system is itself fucked anyway. It is grossly unfair
>>>> to the students. As I've repeatedly explained here, "students" must
>>>> be paid good money to just study. The money should come either from
>>>> businesses or the government. It must be an _employment.
>>>>
>>>> Also the degree system is too old. It is idiotic. Full of defects and
>>>> features that make no sense.
>>>>
>>>> Business or government "students" would study and go through their
>>>> curricula while getting paid like a good job, and eventually (if they
>>>> manage it) get fine-tuned clearly understandable certificates showing
>>>> what that employee can do.
>>>
>>> Scholarships are there. University is there for social snob reasons
>>> and if you pass, a stamp for getting more stamps. Then you can make
>>> money. The Indian Navy paid the fees for the students they selected.
>>> Pioneers,
>>> what.
>>
>>
>> No, you didn't get the gist of what I'm saying (what a surprise).
> 
> You generally talk senseless crap, Roachie, amusing though in its way.
> Also exhilarating to Arindam when you talk about bumping him off. Some
> compliment.
>>
>> Scholarships are genera help, like charity.
> 
> No. Those getting charity get so from empathy. Scholarships are to
> support the meritorious who are also poor.
> 
> What I say a "student" must
>> get is _employment_ payments backed by employment laws. Studying is a
>> serious EMPLOYMENT. It is crazy that crooks expect students not only
>> not get paid, but pay for their studies as well!.. That's another pure
>> Jewish scheme which is still being practiced.
> 
> You never got any employment, Roachie. So you don't know how much any
> employee has to study to keep his job if it is worth keeping. With or
> without company help. Yes if he is employed, part time study is
> feasible. Arindam did his MTech working full time.
> 
> If studies are too expensive and your pop ain't rich do cheap
> correspondence courses. Why pay tons unless you get scholarships or work
> your way! Anyway internet should make universities and the horrid
> professors obsolete.
> 
> Best is mutual self-help, study circles, coaching, employer originated
> training, apprenticeship, etc. One major effort must be to attack those
> putting out fake news.
>>
>> You first get _employed_, and only then study the material that your
>> employer (businesses and/or government) provides. There's no other way
>> around this that does not amount to fraudulent money schemes.
> 
> Who wants to employ useless roaches like you, Roachie? University degree
> gives a stamp vital for recruitment. Better than that is for the
> employer to catch them young and fund them for higher education with a
> bond, while getting work out if them.
> 
> Point is that certification from companies have less worth than uni
> degrees. Which is why the uni market remains hot.

Point is, "Roachie" is probably an unregistered foreign agent.

He's "employed" alright -- by Iran.

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