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| Started by | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> |
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| First post | 2022-02-14 13:05 +0000 |
| Last post | 2022-02-14 14:13 +0000 |
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Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-02-14 13:05 +0000
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-02-14 14:11 +0100
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-02-14 14:29 +0100
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-02-14 13:39 +0000
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-02-14 14:13 +0000
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-02-14 16:28 +0100
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-02-14 13:34 +0000
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-02-14 14:48 +0100
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-02-14 16:26 +0100
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-02-17 22:34 +0100
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-02-14 20:18 +0100
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-02-15 20:12 +0000
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-02-15 16:14 -0500
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-02-16 09:44 +0100
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-02-16 00:53 -0800
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-02-16 11:01 +0000
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-02-16 20:12 -0500
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-02-17 01:48 +0000
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-02-16 20:57 -0500
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-02-17 15:47 +0100
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-02-17 14:52 +0000
Re: Time définition (Tr,Tapp, Tp, To) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-02-14 14:13 +0000
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-02-17 14:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sulng7$els$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #577423 |
Python <python@example.invalid> wrote: > Richard "Hachel" Lengrand (M.D.) wrote: >> Le 17/02/2022 à 02:12, Michael Moroney a écrit : >> >>> Einstein never received any Nobel for relativity. >> >> C'est ce que je dis. >> >> Quand on a voulu donner le prix Nobel pour la théorie de la relativité >> restreinte à Einstein, et pas à Poincaré, le véritable père de toute la >> théorie, théorie qu'Einstein de son bureau des brevets de Berne avait >> recopié point par point, les français, écoeurés se sont levés et ont >> quitté la salle. >> >> Ils sont alors revenus sur leur décision, mais ont tout de même donné le >> prix Nobel à Einstein pour un papier ridicule traitant de l'effet >> photo-électrique. >> >> Déjà à cette époque, les prix Nobel ça puait la rage. >> >> Obama et Arafat n'avait pas encore celui de la paix, mais... >> >> C'est un métier, la politique. > > For those not fluent in French, what Hachel/Lengrand is claiming here > is that while the Nobel Committee was about to attribute to Albert > Einstein a prize in physics for Special Relativity the whole team > of French representation (whatever it means) left the room in anger > because Einstein did plagiarize Poincaré's work. Yeah, I read that and laughed. People like Richard have difficulties separating reality from fantasies. He declines to get help for his mental state, and insists that he’s not the one with the problem. There’s only so much others can do. > > This is outrageously FALSE. There is absolutely nothing Hachel/Lengrand > can present as an evidence for this. > > The main reason everyone ignores Lengrand's posts on fr.sci.physique > these days is because he has the habit to make up idiotic stuff of > this kind. After 20+ years of this despicable behaviour, people gave > up on considering this disgusting person, except as laughing stock. > > Then this kook claims that Einstein papers on photo-electric effect > is "ridiculous". Quite a pathetic claim from a charlatan who fails > not only on understanding SR (or any kind of physics btw), but also > complex numbers or calculus. > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-02-14 14:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sudo2u$1lem$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #577061 |
Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> wrote: > A question that can be asked is that of the difference between the real > time Tr and the proper time Tp. “Real time” doesn’t mean anything. Do you know what “proper time” means? Need a book recommendation? > > Is it the same thing? > > If we study the reference frames in uniform relativistic motions, it > immediately appears that it is the same thing. > > The real time taken by a twin to reach a solar system at 0.8c located at > 12 ly, is 9 years. > > Tr=9 years. > > But it is also its own time. > > Tp=9 years. > > The observable time is To=15 years. > > And the apparent time is Tapp=27 years. > > All this is very simple and is no longer to be discussed. > > But what about in accelerated repositories? > > Can we say, in this frames, that Tp=Tr? > > R.H. > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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