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| Started by | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| First post | 2026-05-06 10:52 +0200 |
| Last post | 2026-05-13 07:57 +0200 |
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Fermi paradox Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-05-06 10:52 +0200
Re: Fermi paradox Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 08:37 -0700
Re: Fermi paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-05-06 11:10 -0700
Re: Fermi paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-05-07 00:47 -0700
Re: Fermi paradox Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-05-07 10:14 +0200
Re: Fermi paradox Ray Stone <rstonetech80@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-12 11:31 +0000
Re: Fermi paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-05-12 10:52 -0700
Re: Fermi paradox Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-05-13 07:57 +0200
| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2026-05-06 10:52 +0200 |
| Subject | Fermi paradox |
| Message-ID | <n60d7sFatbgU1@mid.individual.net> |
Hi NG I just recently stumbled over this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXfFACs24zU It's about 'the Great filter' and means, that if we can't see UFOs, the likelihood of stable civilizations is small. But I wanted to say, that we can only see our own past light cone and that extends backwards in time, if we look at events further away. And if we look at distant galaxies several billion light years away, we also look backwards in time by billions of years. But possible civilizations so far away and of the same age than our own solar system are not visible today, because we need to wait for billions of years for any signal from there. There is also the possibility, that our universe is only a subset of all possible worlds and other universes are actually populated, though invisible. Or possibly such 'aliens' belong to a different 'time domain', where their day is a thousand years long for us. TH
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-06 08:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pHudnS7t0ZjQ_Wb0nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #670888 |
On 05/06/2026 01:52 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > Hi NG > > I just recently stumbled over this video > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXfFACs24zU > > It's about 'the Great filter' and means, that if we can't see UFOs, the > likelihood of stable civilizations is small. > > But I wanted to say, that we can only see our own past light cone and > that extends backwards in time, if we look at events further away. > > And if we look at distant galaxies several billion light years away, we > also look backwards in time by billions of years. > > But possible civilizations so far away and of the same age than our own > solar system are not visible today, because we need to wait for billions > of years for any signal from there. > > There is also the possibility, that our universe is only a subset of all > possible worlds and other universes are actually populated, though > invisible. > > Or possibly such 'aliens' belong to a different 'time domain', where > their day is a thousand years long for us. > > TH > > In theories like Newtonian gravity, for example where Einstein's is it in the limit, then for remote planets of the little green men and the little grey men, that they can communicate with each other in real-time by doing a sort of standing-wave or syncopated-shuffle, or that if a million martians on the moon jumped up and down, we'd feel it right away. The mass-energy equivalency and the idea that light is mass-less and charge-less and never interacts with vacuum and has a fixed speed, has that there's a model of doubly-objective relativity theory where the space is relative besides the motion being relative, then that the accounts that would make for space-contraction have separated the space-contraction-linear and space-contraction-rotational, that there are space-frames and frame-spaces besides frames in a space, makes for an example of a relativity theory where space is relative to be absolute an absolute to be relative, then that usually enough the account of "Are We Not Alone?" or Sullivan after standard-candles and light-speed-limit can also make for that mostly it's too expensive and there's a long-standing detente.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-06 11:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69FB8427.7AC9@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #670888 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > > Hi NG > > I just recently stumbled over this video > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXfFACs24zU > > It's about 'the Great filter' and means, that if we can't see UFOs, the > likelihood of stable civilizations is small. > > But I wanted to say, that we can only see our own past light cone and > that extends backwards in time, if we look at events further away. > > And if we look at distant galaxies several billion light years away, we > also look backwards in time by billions of years. > > But possible civilizations so far away and of the same age than our own > solar system are not visible today, because we need to wait for billions > of years for any signal from there. > > There is also the possibility, that our universe is only a subset of all > possible worlds and other universes are actually populated, though > invisible. > > Or possibly such 'aliens' belong to a different 'time domain', where > their day is a thousand years long for us. > > TH Are you people forgetting? Albert Einstein came up with the idea where he can make a rocket ship invisible and transport it to another place. UFO is just an idea of a woman throwing cups and saucers at her cheating husband. If you want to see flying saucers...cheat on your wife. There are no intelligent life on other planets otherwise they would have transported here by now. Look for a transporter..on the ground...not in the air. I already informed my dealers not to sell smoke to Germany... where are you getting your stuff from?...Afgananstan?? I'll get Trump to bomb the boats.. me and him got a distribution deal going on... -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-07 00:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69FC437F.2590@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #670890 |
Look, it's very simple...there is only one Earth. no pattern. The Starmaker wrote: > > Thomas Heger wrote: > > > > Hi NG > > > > I just recently stumbled over this video > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXfFACs24zU > > > > It's about 'the Great filter' and means, that if we can't see UFOs, the > > likelihood of stable civilizations is small. > > > > But I wanted to say, that we can only see our own past light cone and > > that extends backwards in time, if we look at events further away. > > > > And if we look at distant galaxies several billion light years away, we > > also look backwards in time by billions of years. > > > > But possible civilizations so far away and of the same age than our own > > solar system are not visible today, because we need to wait for billions > > of years for any signal from there. > > > > There is also the possibility, that our universe is only a subset of all > > possible worlds and other universes are actually populated, though > > invisible. > > > > Or possibly such 'aliens' belong to a different 'time domain', where > > their day is a thousand years long for us. > > > > TH > > Are you people forgetting? Albert Einstein came up with the idea > where he can make a rocket ship invisible and transport it to another > place. > > UFO is just an idea of a woman throwing cups and saucers at her cheating > husband. > > If you want to see flying saucers...cheat on your wife. > > There are no intelligent life on other planets otherwise they > would have transported here by now. > > Look for a transporter..on the ground...not in the air. > > I already informed my dealers not to sell smoke to Germany... > where are you getting your stuff from?...Afgananstan?? > > I'll get Trump to bomb the boats.. > > me and him got a distribution deal going on... -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2026-05-07 10:14 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n62vc8Fmm2gU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #670890 |
Am Mittwoch000006, 06.05.2026 um 20:10 schrieb The Starmaker: > Thomas Heger wrote: >> >> Hi NG >> >> I just recently stumbled over this video >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXfFACs24zU >> >> It's about 'the Great filter' and means, that if we can't see UFOs, the >> likelihood of stable civilizations is small. >> >> But I wanted to say, that we can only see our own past light cone and >> that extends backwards in time, if we look at events further away. >> >> And if we look at distant galaxies several billion light years away, we >> also look backwards in time by billions of years. >> >> But possible civilizations so far away and of the same age than our own >> solar system are not visible today, because we need to wait for billions >> of years for any signal from there. >> >> There is also the possibility, that our universe is only a subset of all >> possible worlds and other universes are actually populated, though >> invisible. >> >> Or possibly such 'aliens' belong to a different 'time domain', where >> their day is a thousand years long for us. >> >> TH > > > Are you people forgetting? Albert Einstein came up with the idea > where he can make a rocket ship invisible and transport it to another > place. > > UFO is just an idea of a woman throwing cups and saucers at her cheating > husband. I personally think, that 'UFOs' have the shape of a saucer, because the crafts use a device called 'Die Glocke' (='the bell'). These devices create 'anti-gravity' by two rotating rings, which rotate in opposite direction. I guess it was Martin Tajmar, who replicated these rotating rings and found it produced modified gravity. The other guy was Podclednov (or someone with a similar sounding name), who also used spinning rings for anti-gravity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism Anyhow.. These rings fit best into a disk-shaped craft, hence UFOs look like flying saucers. > > If you want to see flying saucers...cheat on your wife. Well, most likely other items would come flying, too. > There are no intelligent life on other planets otherwise they > would have transported here by now. My idea was: possibly they are or were already here, but we cannot see them, because the do not belong to our own 'time domain'. Sure, they emit radiation, but in frequencies, we cannot see. ... TH
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| From | Ray Stone <rstonetech80@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-05-12 11:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10tv31p$1tqu0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #670888 |
On 5/6/2026 8:52 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > Hi NG > > I just recently stumbled over this video > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXfFACs24zU > > It's about 'the Great filter' and means, that if we can't see UFOs, the > likelihood of stable civilizations is small. > > But I wanted to say, that we can only see our own past light cone and > that extends backwards in time, if we look at events further away. > > And if we look at distant galaxies several billion light years away, we > also look backwards in time by billions of years. > > But possible civilizations so far away and of the same age than our own > solar system are not visible today, because we need to wait for billions > of years for any signal from there. > > There is also the possibility, that our universe is only a subset of all > possible worlds and other universes are actually populated, though > invisible. > > Or possibly such 'aliens' belong to a different 'time domain', where > their day is a thousand years long for us. > > TH > > Thanks for the share. Very insightful.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-12 10:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6A0368D3.5BBD@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #670888 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > > Hi NG > > I just recently stumbled over this video > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXfFACs24zU > > It's about 'the Great filter' and means, that if we can't see UFOs, the > likelihood of stable civilizations is small. > > But I wanted to say, that we can only see our own past light cone and > that extends backwards in time, if we look at events further away. > > And if we look at distant galaxies several billion light years away, we > also look backwards in time by billions of years. > > But possible civilizations so far away and of the same age than our own > solar system are not visible today, because we need to wait for billions > of years for any signal from there. > > There is also the possibility, that our universe is only a subset of all > possible worlds and other universes are actually populated, though > invisible. > > Or possibly such 'aliens' belong to a different 'time domain', where > their day is a thousand years long for us. > > TH So, the aliens would be complaing..."Boy! Time sure goes slow!!" "It's Monday. When is it going to be Tuesday? A THOUSAND YEARS! I'm looking forward to a lonnnnnng weekend! I'll be back at work a few thousand years from now.... "Hey, how are you doing? I haven't seen you in a thousand years??" 'What are you talking about, I saw you yesterday?' YESTERDAY? Fells like a thousand years ago! "Boy! Time sure goes slow!!" -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2026-05-13 07:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n6ihk3F6aegU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #670908 |
Am Dienstag000012, 12.05.2026 um 19:52 schrieb The Starmaker: > Thomas Heger wrote: >> >> Hi NG >> >> I just recently stumbled over this video >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXfFACs24zU >> >> It's about 'the Great filter' and means, that if we can't see UFOs, the >> likelihood of stable civilizations is small. >> >> But I wanted to say, that we can only see our own past light cone and >> that extends backwards in time, if we look at events further away. >> >> And if we look at distant galaxies several billion light years away, we >> also look backwards in time by billions of years. >> >> But possible civilizations so far away and of the same age than our own >> solar system are not visible today, because we need to wait for billions >> of years for any signal from there. >> >> There is also the possibility, that our universe is only a subset of all >> possible worlds and other universes are actually populated, though >> invisible. >> >> Or possibly such 'aliens' belong to a different 'time domain', where >> their day is a thousand years long for us. >> >> TH > > So, the aliens would be complaing..."Boy! Time sure goes slow!!" > > "It's Monday. When is it going to be Tuesday? A THOUSAND YEARS! > > I'm looking forward to a lonnnnnng weekend! > > I'll be back at work a few thousand years from now.... > > > "Hey, how are you doing? I haven't seen you in a thousand years??" > > 'What are you talking about, I saw you yesterday?' > > YESTERDAY? Fells like a thousand years ago! > > > > "Boy! Time sure goes slow!!" Well, no! I think, that time is local and depending on scale. We as human beings have a certain 'natural' scale, because we relate length to a usual step and time to a usual day. But what if you have lived your entire life in a different world, where everything is a hundred times larger and a hundred times slower? Wouldn't you regard that scale as 'natural' as well? TH
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