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Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?

Started byMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
First post2025-11-30 13:38 +0100
Last post2025-12-04 12:59 +0800
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  Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ? Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 13:38 +0100
    An old Busy Beaver ASIC (Application-Specific Integrated Circuit) (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 13:54 +0100
    An old Busy Beaver ASIC (Application-Specific Integrated Circuit) (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 13:55 +0100
      What is analog computing nowadays? (Re: An old Busy Beaver ASIC (Application-Specific Integrated Circuit) (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 11:25 +0100
        Wake-up call until everybody gets ear-bleeding (Re: What is analog computing nowadays?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 12:01 +0100
          BB(745) is independent of ZFC (Was: Wake-up call until everybody gets ear-bleeding) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 12:07 +0100
            Write ZFC formulas on a tape (of a Turing machine) (Re: BB(745) is independent of ZFC ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 17:18 +0100
              Turing machines have neurons (Re: Write ZFC formulas on a tape (of a Turing machine)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 17:19 +0100
                A logical calculus in nervous activity [McCulloch & Pitts 1943] (Re: Turing machines have neurons) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 17:20 +0100
                  Busy Beaver and Theory Consistency (Was: A logical calculus in nervous activity [McCulloch & Pitts 1943]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 17:39 +0100
                  Busy Beaver and Theory Consistency (Was: A logical calculus in nervous activity [McCulloch & Pitts 1943]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 17:43 +0100
                    Re: Busy Beaver and Theory Consistency (Was: A logical calculus in nervous activity [McCulloch & Pitts 1943]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 23:18 +0100
        Re: What is analog computing nowadays? (Re: An old Busy Beaver ASIC (Application-Specific Integrated Circuit) (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-12-01 12:09 +0100
          parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM (Was: What is analog computing nowadays?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 12:15 +0100
            Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM (Was: What is analog computing nowadays?) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-12-01 13:23 +0100
              Nope, you can't, because of the CRCW instuction (Was: parallel random-access machine) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 17:12 +0100
                Algorithm introduced in Hogwild! SGD (Niu et al., 2011) (Was: Nope, you can't, because of the CRCW instuction) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 17:31 +0100
                  PRAMs might be closer to physics: Boltzman machines, etc.. (Was: Algorithm introduced in Hogwild! SGD) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 18:02 +0100
                Re: Nope, you can't, because of the CRCW instuction (Was: parallel random-access machine) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-12-01 17:59 +0100
                  PRAMs might be closer to physics: Boltzman machines, etc.. (Re: Nope, you can't, because of the CRCW instuction) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 18:05 +0100
                  PRAMs might be closer to physics: Boltzman machines, etc.. (Re: Nope, you can't, because of the CRCW instuction) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 18:08 +0100
                    Physics more difficult than Rasperry LED cube? (Was: PRAMs might be closer to physics: Boltzman machines, etc..) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 18:25 +0100
              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM (Was: What is analog computing nowadays?) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-03 07:17 +0100
                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM (Was: What is  analog computing nowadays?) Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2025-12-03 06:46 +0000
                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-03 08:02 +0100
                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-04 07:50 +0100
                    Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-12-04 09:57 +0100
                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Telly Missiakos <siy@ioet.gr> - 2025-12-05 14:26 +0000
                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-06 17:02 +0100
                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-07 10:22 +0100
                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-07 10:39 +0100
                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-07 10:46 +0100
                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-12-07 11:42 +0100
                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-07 16:26 +0200
                            Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-12-08 04:25 +0100
                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-08 08:51 +0100
                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-08 13:58 +0200
                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-09 09:15 +0100
                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-08 08:21 +0100
                            Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-12-08 09:06 +0100
                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-09 09:19 +0100
                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-09 11:43 -0800
                                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-10 08:19 +0100
                                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-10 09:56 +0100
                                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-10 10:01 -0800
                                    Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-11 09:02 +0100
                                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-11 08:48 -0800
                                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-12 01:58 +0100
                                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-11 20:45 -0800
                                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-11 23:07 -0800
                                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-12 00:49 -0800
                                            Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-14 14:27 +0100
                                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Yunior Molokanov <ukan@amuyao.ru> - 2025-12-14 17:18 +0000
                                                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-14 10:03 -0800
                                                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Salvado Gorbikov <abdrvvg@lgadi.ru> - 2025-12-15 22:01 +0000
                                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 10:25 -0800
                                                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-14 21:22 +0100
                                                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 12:52 -0800
                                                  I have a great idea The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 13:11 -0800
                                                  Einstein refrigerator (was: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-15 03:00 +0100
                                                    Re: Einstein refrigerator (was: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 19:46 -0800
                                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 10:27 -0800
                                                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 10:58 -0800
                                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-15 07:50 +0100
                                                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-15 14:05 +0100
                                                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-16 08:44 +0100
                                                    Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-16 22:58 +0100
                                                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-17 08:50 +0100
                                                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-17 14:00 +0100
                                                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Lemuel Agababov <uamv@oaabao.ru> - 2025-12-17 16:58 +0000
                                                            Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-17 18:33 +0100
                                                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Eniel Habalov <ia@anael.ru> - 2025-12-18 16:22 +0000
                                                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-17 10:49 -0800
                                                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-17 11:23 -0800
                                                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-17 14:24 +0100
                                                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-18 22:13 -0800
                                                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-19 12:02 -0800
                                                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Lynn Dobronos <rlbs@ddn.ru> - 2025-12-17 16:51 +0000
                                                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-17 18:24 +0100
                                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-18 06:49 +0000
                    Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-06 05:30 +0100
            Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM (Was: What is analog computing nowadays?) Pascual Sokolsky <aoa@ssppsc.pl> - 2025-12-01 19:58 +0000
              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM (Was: What is analog computing nowadays?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 21:17 +0100
                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM (Was: What is analog computing nowadays?) Blending Molostvov <noo@biiooe.ru> - 2025-12-01 20:44 +0000
                  Algorithm introduced in Hogwild! SGD (Niu et al., 2011) (Re: parallel random-access machine) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 22:06 +0100
                    Linux kernel's RCU-protected hash tables (Re: Algorithm introduced in Hogwild! SGD (Niu et al., 2011)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 22:26 +0100
                      String interning is HashSet and not HashMap (Was: Linux kernel's RCU-protected hash tables) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 22:40 +0100
                    Re: Algorithm introduced in Hogwild! SGD (Niu et al., 2011) (Re: parallel random-access machine) Bosephis Otlesnov <ooiv@th.ru> - 2025-12-01 21:42 +0000
                      POINT OF VIEW OF AN ALGORITHM (Re: Algorithm introduced in Hogwild! SGD (Niu et al., 2011)) (Re: parallel random-access machine) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 23:12 +0100
                        Introduction to AMBA® 4 ACE™ (2011) (Was: POINT OF VIEW OF AN ALGORITHM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 23:37 +0100
                          Sputnik Schock: Academia is Disposable [I. J. Good Ultraintelligence] (Was: Introduction to AMBA® 4 ACE™ (2011)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 23:53 +0100
                          Re: Introduction to AMBA® 4 ACE™ (2011) (Was: POINT OF VIEW OF AN ALGORITHM) Josbanne Balagula <ajbn@oll.ru> - 2025-12-01 23:06 +0000
                            Re: Introduction to AMBA® 4 ACE™ (2011) (Was: POINT OF VIEW OF AN ALGORITHM) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 00:08 +0100
    Re: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-11-30 14:06 +0100
      Re: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ? Dong Shamahov <hhh@dvgshv.ru> - 2025-11-30 15:46 +0000
      You shouldn't use NPM hacked services (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 22:27 +0100
        Its a subconscious hypothesis (Was: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 22:33 +0100
          What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious hypothesis) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 22:43 +0100
            Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious hypothesis) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-01 23:43 +0100
            Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-01 23:45 +0100
              newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 00:00 +0100
                Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the  cosmos does a BB dance?) Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2025-12-02 03:10 +0000
                  Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 11:51 +0100
                    Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-02 20:36 +0100
                  Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-01 21:42 -0800
                    Orbits of planets in the Sol System (was: newsreader where you can see the message source) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-04 03:29 +0100
                    Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-04 03:30 +0100
                      Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-05 14:56 -0800
                        Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-05 15:22 -0800
                          Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-06 15:00 -0800
                          Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-07 10:57 +0100
                          Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-07 11:03 +0100
                            Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-12-07 16:17 +0100
                            Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-07 17:59 -0800
                              Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-07 18:07 -0800
                                Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-07 18:16 -0800
                                  Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-07 21:39 -0800
                                    Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-08 12:14 -0800
                                      Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 12:41 -0800
                                        Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 13:11 -0800
                                  Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-09 04:49 +0100
                              Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-08 17:33 +0100
                                Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-12-08 18:39 +0100
                                Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 12:29 -0800
                                  Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-09 04:41 +0100
                                    Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 21:41 -0800
                                    Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-09 11:56 -0800
                                      Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-09 12:15 -0800
                                        Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-09 23:35 +0100
                                          Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-10 02:17 -0800
                                            Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-10 12:01 -0800
                                              Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-10 13:25 -0800
                                Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-09 05:45 +0100
                                Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-09 05:47 +0100
                                  Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-12-09 06:47 +0100
                                    Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-09 11:50 -0800
                                      Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-09 23:47 +0100
                                        Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-10 02:01 -0800
                                          Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-11 03:20 +0100
                                            Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-11 10:29 -0800
                                              Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-12 09:04 +0100
                                                Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 01:20 -0800
                                                  Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 10:20 -0800
                                                  Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-13 17:46 +0100
                                                    Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-13 11:44 -0800
                                                      Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-13 23:26 +0100
                                                        Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-13 15:28 -0800
                                                          Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-15 03:52 +0100
                                                            Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-14 22:35 -0800
                                                              Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-14 22:45 -0800
                                                              Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-17 18:52 +0100
                                                                Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 17:39 -0800
                                                                  Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-18 04:23 +0100
                                                                    Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-18 02:29 -0800
                                                            Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-14 23:01 -0800
                                                      Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-13 23:27 +0100
                                  Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Jonas Zhashkov <snos@kook.ru> - 2025-12-09 19:35 +0000
                                    Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-09 23:44 +0100
                                      Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System "D.J. Papadopulos" <sn@sppodd.gr> - 2025-12-10 15:34 +0000
                                        Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-11 03:29 +0100
                                          Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System Erwin Shimanouchi <sicor@rinn.jp> - 2025-12-11 21:04 +0000
                        Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-06 14:57 -0800
                          Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-07 12:36 -0800
                          Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-07 12:36 -0800
                          Re: Orbits of planets in the Sol System The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-07 12:42 -0800
                Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-02 20:35 +0100
                  Spock thinks I am interested in his gibberish (Re: newsreader where you can see the message source) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 23:22 +0100
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#667845 — Re: Einstein refrigerator (was: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-12-14 19:46 -0800
SubjectRe: Einstein refrigerator (was: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<n11vjkd61p5kt68grvc1kj5epo6k28tnnm@4ax.com>
In reply to#667839
On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 03:00:03 +0100, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

>Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>> Den 14.12.2025 19:25, skrev The Starmaker:
>>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 14:27:17 +0100, "Paul.B.Andersen"
>>> <relativity@paulba.no> wrote:
>>>> Den 12.12.2025 09:49, skrev The Starmaker:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>>>>
>>>> The very first statement in the application:
>>>>   "Our invention relates to the art of refrigeration and particularly
>>>>    to an apparatus and method for producing refrigeration .."
>>>>
>>>> Didn't you understand that "an apparatus for producing refrigeration"
>>>> is a refrigerator?
>>>>
>>>> The new invention was an absorption refrigerator with no moving parts.
>>>
>>> I understand English is your second language.
>
>LOL; it's the proverbial pot calling the kettle black:
>
>>> Under Einstein's name you can clearly see the Heading of the word in
>>> Capitol letters
>
>in _capital_ (uppercase) letters
>
>[The Capitol is a building in Washington, D.C., the capitol (primary city)
>of the U.S.A., instead.]
>
>>>    REFRIDERATION       (meaning all caps)
>
>No, it reads (correctly) _REFRIGERATION_.
>
>  [If would be just a typo on "The Starmaker"'s part, it would be a very
>   strange one: on a U.S. keyboard layout, the key for "D" is two keys away
>   from that for "G".  So much for "English as second language".]
>
>>>   REFRIDERATION is a process, it is not a machine.
>
>From this repetition of the mistake we can surmise that it was not just a
>typo by "The Starmaker", but that it is due to a missing ability to read or
>write properly.  They might be dyslexic; but then it would be hilarious that
>they would lecture others about language.
>
>> You are right!
>> "An apparatus for producing refrigeration"
>> does not produce a machine.
>> 
>> It _is_ a machine which is called a refrigerator.
>
>Exactly.  The patent application begins with
>
>| Our invention relates to the art of refrigeration and particularly to an
>| apparatus and method for producing refrigeration [...]
>
>(So much for "The Starmaker"'s understanding of English.)
>
>It is interesting to note that Einstein and Szilárd are called "ASSIGNORS TO
>ELECTROLUX SERVEL CORPORATION, of NEW YORK, N.Y., A. CORPORATION OF
>DELAWARE" there already.  (You mentioned that the refrigerator that was used
>in your parent's home was manufactured by Electrolux and based on this design.)
>
>Also: "Application filed December 16, 1927, Serial No. 240,566 [in the
>U.S.A.], and in Germany December 16, 1926."
>
>F'up2 sci.physics



The speling police in back in town!

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#667827 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-12-14 10:27 -0800
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<p90ujk9vc55i03n0r95bb0eb7algt76g68@4ax.com>
In reply to#667822
On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 14:27:17 +0100, "Paul.B.Andersen"
<relativity@paulba.no> wrote:

>Den 12.12.2025 09:49, skrev The Starmaker:
>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 20:45:30 -0800, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is the REAL Einstein  patent on Google Patent Website. (that
>>> doesn't contain the fruad)
>>>
>>> https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>
>Well done to dig up the real patent application of December 19. 1926.
>
>So it's settled now, it is a refrigerator.
>
>> 
>> Furthermore, if you search The Real Einstein patent on Goggle patents,
>> you won't find the word "refrigerator".
>> 
>> https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>
>The very first statement in the application:
>  "Our invention relates to the art of refrigeration and particularly
>   to an apparatus and method for producing refrigeration .."
>
>Didn't you understand that "an apparatus for producing refrigeration"
>is a refrigerator?
>
>The new invention was an absorption refrigerator with no moving parts.
>
>At that time all refrigerators were based on the refrigerant ammonia
>which is a very toxic gas which is not nice to have in your kitchen.
>
>> 
>> Albert Einstein's patent is simply a Refrideration cooling system
>> process to keep it from having a China Syndrome...
>> 
>> (The China syndrome is when a nuclear power plant's radioactive core's
>> cooling system fails.)
>> 
>> Here is what a Reactor looks like today:
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1148280696122699778/photo/1
>> 
>> and here is a cut-out out of both:
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1148279328121090048/photo/1
>> 
>> But, this is Albert Einstein's patent on a  "fast breeding reactor"!
>> 
>> https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>> 
>> Anyone today who still thinks the patent is for cooling food has
>> tested Positive for Stupid.
>
>:-D
>
>Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company Electrolux.
>
>In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>
>Fortunately, we were so Stupid that we didn't realise that we had
>a fast breading reactor in the kitchen.


Now, do yous actually believe this is a BLOUSE that Albert Einstein
filed a patent for in 1936????


https://patents.google.com/patent/USD101756?oq=USD101756-0




Of course not. Albert Einstein was tooo busy building his atomic
bombs.

He had to come up with a way to protect others from being exposed to
URANIUM RADIATION.

So he simply designed a Radiation Vest Jacket:

It's not a blouse, it's a radiation vest!


http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US5274851-2.png

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5274851A/en?oq=US5274851+

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8067759?oq=radiation+vest

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/20160923_EOS_0467.jpg



don't forget, he spoke german..that means the word "blouse" might have
a
different meaning..
meaning not having to do with 'women'.




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#667830 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-12-14 10:58 -0800
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<9n1ujkpiqvu40q5969rggf04gvik3q3cns@4ax.com>
In reply to#667827
On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 10:27:30 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 14:27:17 +0100, "Paul.B.Andersen"
><relativity@paulba.no> wrote:
>
>>Den 12.12.2025 09:49, skrev The Starmaker:
>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 20:45:30 -0800, The Starmaker
>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here is the REAL Einstein  patent on Google Patent Website. (that
>>>> doesn't contain the fruad)
>>>>
>>>> https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>>
>>Well done to dig up the real patent application of December 19. 1926.
>>
>>So it's settled now, it is a refrigerator.
>>
>>> 
>>> Furthermore, if you search The Real Einstein patent on Goggle patents,
>>> you won't find the word "refrigerator".
>>> 
>>> https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>>
>>The very first statement in the application:
>>  "Our invention relates to the art of refrigeration and particularly
>>   to an apparatus and method for producing refrigeration .."
>>
>>Didn't you understand that "an apparatus for producing refrigeration"
>>is a refrigerator?
>>
>>The new invention was an absorption refrigerator with no moving parts.
>>
>>At that time all refrigerators were based on the refrigerant ammonia
>>which is a very toxic gas which is not nice to have in your kitchen.
>>
>>> 
>>> Albert Einstein's patent is simply a Refrideration cooling system
>>> process to keep it from having a China Syndrome...
>>> 
>>> (The China syndrome is when a nuclear power plant's radioactive core's
>>> cooling system fails.)
>>> 
>>> Here is what a Reactor looks like today:
>>> 
>>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1148280696122699778/photo/1
>>> 
>>> and here is a cut-out out of both:
>>> 
>>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1148279328121090048/photo/1
>>> 
>>> But, this is Albert Einstein's patent on a  "fast breeding reactor"!
>>> 
>>> https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>>> 
>>> Anyone today who still thinks the patent is for cooling food has
>>> tested Positive for Stupid.
>>
>>:-D
>>
>>Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company Electrolux.
>>
>>In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>>an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>>
>>Fortunately, we were so Stupid that we didn't realise that we had
>>a fast breading reactor in the kitchen.
>
>
>Now, do yous actually believe this is a BLOUSE that Albert Einstein
>filed a patent for in 1936????
>
>
>https://patents.google.com/patent/USD101756?oq=USD101756-0
>
>
>
>
>Of course not. Albert Einstein was tooo busy building his atomic
>bombs.
>
>He had to come up with a way to protect others from being exposed to
>URANIUM RADIATION.
>
>So he simply designed a Radiation Vest Jacket:
>
>It's not a blouse, it's a radiation vest!
>
>
>http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US5274851-2.png
>
>https://patents.google.com/patent/US5274851A/en?oq=US5274851+
>
>https://patents.google.com/patent/US8067759?oq=radiation+vest
>
>https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/20160923_EOS_0467.jpg
>
>
>
>don't forget, he spoke german..that means the word "blouse" might have
>a
>different meaning..
>meaning not having to do with 'women'.

I would like to add..
nobody, but nobody
wore a radation jacket
at the Manhattan Project.

Richard Feynman died from exposure,
and countless others.

I guess Albert Einstein decided NOT to
tell anyone about the dangerous raidation
exposure...he didn't want anyone scared off
from finishing his atomic bomb.

He even joked about it..he said:
'I been exposed by so much radium, I should be dead by now!'

Of course, Albert Einstein died from radium exposure. 
(but you are not suppose to know that)



 
-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#667850 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-12-15 07:50 +0100
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<mq9p1nFrmp6U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#667822
Am Sonntag000014, 14.12.2025 um 14:27 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
...
>> Furthermore, if you search The Real Einstein patent on Goggle patents,
>> you won't find the word "refrigerator".
>>
>> https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/ 
>> US1781541.pdf
> 
> The very first statement in the application:
>   "Our invention relates to the art of refrigeration and particularly
>    to an apparatus and method for producing refrigeration .."
> 
> Didn't you understand that "an apparatus for producing refrigeration"
> is a refrigerator?
> 
> The new invention was an absorption refrigerator with no moving parts.
> 
> At that time all refrigerators were based on the refrigerant ammonia
> which is a very toxic gas which is not nice to have in your kitchen.
> 
>>
>> Albert Einstein's patent is simply a Refrideration cooling system
>> process to keep it from having a China Syndrome...
>>
>> (The China syndrome is when a nuclear power plant's radioactive core's
>> cooling system fails.)
>>
>> Here is what a Reactor looks like today:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1148280696122699778/photo/1
>>
>> and here is a cut-out out of both:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1148279328121090048/photo/1
>>
>> But, this is Albert Einstein's patent on a  "fast breeding reactor"!
>>
>> https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/ 
>> US1781541.pdf
>>
>> Anyone today who still thinks the patent is for cooling food has
>> tested Positive for Stupid.
> 
> :-D
> 
> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company Electrolux.
> 
> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
> 
> Fortunately, we were so Stupid that we didn't realise that we had
> a fast breading reactor in the kitchen.
> 



The only known use of Einstein's fridge is as a part of a fast breeding 
reactor.

Therefore, my guess was: 'fridge' was a misnomer, to hide the real 
purpose and the device was actually meant as a part of a fast breeder.

If otherwise, there is a need to show a working fridge, which is based 
on Einstein's design.

But I read, that a group of students tried to replicate the 'fride' and 
found out, that it didn't cool.

But as patent it wouldn't make much difference, if the 'inert gas' is 
actually molten Natrium (or some other molten metal).


TH

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#667853 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

From"Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2025-12-15 14:05 +0100
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<10hp0vl$1tfqi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#667850
Den 15.12.2025 07:50, skrev Thomas Heger:
> Am Sonntag000014, 14.12.2025 um 14:27 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>
>> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company 
>> Electrolux.
>>
>> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>>
>> Fortunately, we were so Stupid that we didn't realise that we had
>> a fast breading reactor in the kitchen.
>>

> The only known use of Einstein's fridge is as a part of a fast breeding 
> reactor.
> 
> Therefore, my guess was: 'fridge' was a misnomer, to hide the real 
> purpose and the device was actually meant as a part of a fast breeder.
> 
> If otherwise, there is a need to show a working fridge, which is based 
> on Einstein's design.

Do you never read the posts you are responding to?

Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company
Electrolux, which built and sold a lot of absorption refrigerators.

In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.

I and thousands of other people have seen working fridges
based on Einstein and Szilard's patent.

> 
> But I read, that a group of students tried to replicate the 'fride' and 
> found out, that it didn't cool.

Why would they do that when they could buy a working version of
Einstein and Szilard's absorption refrigerator from Electrolux?

That was what my parents did, and I can assure that it
worked for many years.

> 
> But as patent it wouldn't make much difference, if the 'inert gas' is 
> actually molten Natrium (or some other molten metal).
> 

Here is Einstein and Szilard's patent application:

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf

I quote from it:
  "A suitable refrigerant, for instance butane,
   in liquid form is contained within evaporator 1.
   An inert gas, for instance ammonia, is
   introduced into evaporator 1 through conduit
   30 and distributor head 31. The refrigerant
   evaporates in the evaporator.."

The "inert gas" is ammonia, so from whence have you got
the idiotic idea that the "inert gas" is molten metal?

There is no way you can read the patent application without
understanding that it is a description of a refrigerator with
no moving parts.

So you have not read it.

Do you not understand how stupid it is to think that a patent
application which you haven't read, really is a description
of a fast breading reactor?

But why have you not read it? Can't you read?

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#667859 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-12-16 08:44 +0100
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<mqcgjbFb8enU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#667853
Am Montag000015, 15.12.2025 um 14:05 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
> Den 15.12.2025 07:50, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> Am Sonntag000014, 14.12.2025 um 14:27 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>>
>>> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company 
>>> Electrolux.
>>>
>>> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>>> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, we were so Stupid that we didn't realise that we had
>>> a fast breading reactor in the kitchen.
>>>
> 
>> The only known use of Einstein's fridge is as a part of a fast 
>> breeding reactor.
>>
>> Therefore, my guess was: 'fridge' was a misnomer, to hide the real 
>> purpose and the device was actually meant as a part of a fast breeder.
>>
>> If otherwise, there is a need to show a working fridge, which is based 
>> on Einstein's design.
> 
> Do you never read the posts you are responding to?
> 
> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company
> Electrolux, which built and sold a lot of absorption refrigerators.
> 
> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
> 
> I and thousands of other people have seen working fridges
> based on Einstein and Szilard's patent.


No, because this is a 'non sequitur'.

Thousands of people baught absorption fridges from Electrolux.

Sure!

But how many of them investigated, whether or not these fridges were 
based upon Einstein's patent?

My guess: not a single buyer did that, because nobody cared.

So, we have a few facts:

Einstein and Szillard patented a fridge
Electrolux gave them (a lot of) money
Electrolux sold tons of fridges

But where is the proof, that these fridges were based upon Einstein's 
and Szillard's patent?

You only think they did, because Electrolux spent money.

But actually there are all sorts of reasons thinkable, why some company 
would like to give somebody money and declare that as spending for patents.

...


TH

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#667865 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

From"Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2025-12-16 22:58 +0100
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<10hskjb$32r95$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#667859
Den 16.12.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:
> Am Montag000015, 15.12.2025 um 14:05 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>
>> Do you never read the posts you are responding to?
>>
>> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company
>> Electrolux, which built and sold a lot of absorption refrigerators.
>>
>> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>>
>> I and thousands of other people have seen working fridges
>> based on Einstein and Szilard's patent.
> 
> 
> No, because this is a 'non sequitur'.
> 
> Thousands of people baught absorption fridges from Electrolux.
> 
> Sure!
> 
> But how many of them investigated, whether or not these fridges were 
> based upon Einstein's patent?
> 
> My guess: not a single buyer did that, because nobody cared.

Why are you stating this irrelevant obvious triviality?

> 
> So, we have a few facts:
> 
> Einstein and Szillard patented a fridge
> Electrolux gave them (a lot of) money
> Electrolux sold tons of fridges

... some of which were based on on Einstein and Szillard's patent.

> 
> But where is the proof, that these fridges were based upon Einstein's 
> and Szillard's patent?

The simple fact that the Electrolux fridge my parents and a lot of
other people bought in 1953 was an absorption refrigerator with
no moving parts which had the same machinery as described here:

  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf

The refigerator is described in detail.

Why don't you read it and see for yourself? Can't you read?

No sane person can read a detailed descripion of a refrigerator
and believe that it is anything but a refrigerator.

> 
> You only think they did, because Electrolux spent money.
> 
> But actually there are all sorts of reasons thinkable, why some company 
> would like to give somebody money and declare that as spending for patents.
> 

So why do you think that Electrolux gave Einstein money?

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#667872 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-12-17 08:50 +0100
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<mqf598Fosv3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#667865
Am Dienstag000016, 16.12.2025 um 22:58 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
> Den 16.12.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> Am Montag000015, 15.12.2025 um 14:05 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>>
>>> Do you never read the posts you are responding to?
>>>
>>> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company
>>> Electrolux, which built and sold a lot of absorption refrigerators.
>>>
>>> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>>> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>>>
>>> I and thousands of other people have seen working fridges
>>> based on Einstein and Szilard's patent.
>>
>>
>> No, because this is a 'non sequitur'.
>>
>> Thousands of people baught absorption fridges from Electrolux.
>>
>> Sure!
>>
>> But how many of them investigated, whether or not these fridges were 
>> based upon Einstein's patent?
>>
>> My guess: not a single buyer did that, because nobody cared.
> 
> Why are you stating this irrelevant obvious triviality?


This was a reply to 'my parents bougth an Electrolux refridgerator'.

I wanted to express, that buying a fridge does not prove, that this 
fridge was build according to Einstein's patent.

Sure, Electrolux gave Einstein money.

But that's all we could safely assume.

Possibly Electrolux was involved in building fast breeding reactors, but 
wanted to keep that secret.

But how could we today possibly know????


>>
>> So, we have a few facts:
>>
>> Einstein and Szillard patented a fridge
>> Electrolux gave them (a lot of) money
>> Electrolux sold tons of fridges
> 
> ... some of which were based on on Einstein and Szillard's patent.


THAT was actually the question.

Iow: was that patented device actually an absorption fridge or a part 
needed for a fast breeding reactor????

We could check that by building a 'fridge' according to Einstein's 
patent and check whether or not it cools.

But we actually don't need to do that, because a group of engineering 
students did that already and found out, that Einstein's 'fridge' did 
NOT cool.

Instead it is common knowledge, that Einstein's 'fridge' is used in fast 
breeding reactors.

The endresult:

two points for fast breeding reactor

zero points for 'fridge'.


TH

...

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#667874 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

From"Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2025-12-17 14:00 +0100
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<10hu9df$3gcja$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#667872
Den 17.12.2025 08:50, skrev Thomas Heger:
> Am Dienstag000016, 16.12.2025 um 22:58 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>> Den 16.12.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>> Am Montag000015, 15.12.2025 um 14:05 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>>>
>>>> Do you never read the posts you are responding to?
>>>>
>>>> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company
>>>> Electrolux, which built and sold a lot of absorption refrigerators.
>>>>
>>>> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>>>> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>>>>
>>>> I and thousands of other people have seen working fridges
>>>> based on Einstein and Szilard's patent.
>>>
>>>
>>> No, because this is a 'non sequitur'.
>>>
>>> Thousands of people baught absorption fridges from Electrolux.
>>>
>>> Sure!
>>>
>>> But how many of them investigated, whether or not these fridges were 
>>> based upon Einstein's patent?
>>>
>>> My guess: not a single buyer did that, because nobody cared.
>>
>> Why are you stating this irrelevant obvious triviality?
> 
> 
> This was a reply to 'my parents bougth an Electrolux refridgerator'.
> 
> I wanted to express, that buying a fridge does not prove, that this 
> fridge was build according to Einstein's patent.
> 
> Sure, Electrolux gave Einstein money.
> 
> But that's all we could safely assume.
> 
> Possibly Electrolux was involved in building fast breeding reactors, but 
> wanted to keep that secret.
> 
> But how could we today possibly know????
> 
> 
>>>
>>> So, we have a few facts:
>>>
>>> Einstein and Szillard patented a fridge
>>> Electrolux gave them (a lot of) money
>>> Electrolux sold tons of fridges
>>
>> ... some of which were based on on Einstein and Szillard's patent.

>>>
>>> But where is the proof, that these fridges were based upon Einstein's and Szillard's patent?
>> 
>> The simple fact that the Electrolux fridge my parents and a lot of
>> other people bought in 1953 was an absorption refrigerator with
>> no moving parts which had the same machinery as described here:
>> 
>>  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>> 
>> The refrigerator is described in detail.
>> 
>> Why don't you read it and see for yourself? Can't you read?
>> 
>> No sane person can read a detailed descripion of a refrigerator
>> and believe that it is anything but a refrigerator.

> Iow: was that patented device actually an absorption fridge or a part 
> needed for a fast breeding reactor???

You didn't answer my question.

The "apparatus for producing refrigeration" is described in detail
in the patent application.

  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf

This isn't a scientific text you have to be a physicist to understand.
An engineer should be qualified to read it.

Why can't you read it an see for yourself what kind of apparatus its is?

 > > We could check that by building a 'fridge' according to Einstein's
> patent and check whether or not it cools.>
> But we actually don't need to do that, because a group of engineering 
> students did that already and found out, that Einstein's 'fridge' did 
> NOT cool.
> 
> Instead it is common knowledge, that Einstein's 'fridge' is used in fast 
> breeding reactors.

SIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D and ROFL

> 
> The endresult:
> 
> two points for fast breeding reactor
> 
> zero points for 'fridge'.
> 

Can you point out where in the detailed description it
is clear that the apparatus is a part of a fast breeding reactor?

  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf

The lines in the text are numbered, so it should be easy to refer to
the relevant section.

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#667878 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromLemuel Agababov <uamv@oaabao.ru>
Date2025-12-17 16:58 +0000
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<10hunfv$3mg08$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#667874
Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

> Den 17.12.2025 08:50, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> Iow: was that patented device actually an absorption fridge or a part
>> needed for a fast breeding reactor???
> 
> You didn't answer my question.
> 
> The "apparatus for producing refrigeration" is described in detail in
> the patent application.

still in error. A lot of moving parts in that patent, the coolant fluid, 
the electric current, the buoyancy of the molecules etc

the Einstine misundrestood the patent he "applied" for. He was busy with 
his cosine, who was a man. It was allowed to be a man. A man to marry 
another man

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#667880 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2025-12-17 18:33 +0100
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<10huphd$2faag$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#667878
The 'nym-shifting troll demonstrated their mindbogging stupidity once again:
> the Einstine misundrestood the patent he "applied" for. He was busy with 
> his cosine, who was a man. It was allowed to be a man. A man to marry 
> another man

*facepalm*

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#667895 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromEniel Habalov <ia@anael.ru>
Date2025-12-18 16:22 +0000
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<10i19op$e5ld$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#667880
bag of dog shit Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> The 'nym-shifting troll demonstrated their mindbogging stupidity once
> again:
>> the Einstine misundrestood the patent he "applied" for. He was busy
>> with his cosine, who was a man. It was allowed to be a man. A man to
>> marry another man
> 
> *facepalm*

do it again, you stupid mazafaka, until you cry uncle.

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#667882 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-12-17 10:49 -0800
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<abt5kkptsmstokufvk95a4pcvu6ochagvg@4ax.com>
In reply to#667874
On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 14:00:00 +0100, "Paul.B.Andersen"
<relativity@paulba.no> wrote:

>Den 17.12.2025 08:50, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> Am Dienstag000016, 16.12.2025 um 22:58 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>> Den 16.12.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>>> Am Montag000015, 15.12.2025 um 14:05 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you never read the posts you are responding to?
>>>>>
>>>>> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company
>>>>> Electrolux, which built and sold a lot of absorption refrigerators.
>>>>>
>>>>> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>>>>> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>>>>>
>>>>> I and thousands of other people have seen working fridges
>>>>> based on Einstein and Szilard's patent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, because this is a 'non sequitur'.
>>>>
>>>> Thousands of people baught absorption fridges from Electrolux.
>>>>
>>>> Sure!
>>>>
>>>> But how many of them investigated, whether or not these fridges were 
>>>> based upon Einstein's patent?
>>>>
>>>> My guess: not a single buyer did that, because nobody cared.
>>>
>>> Why are you stating this irrelevant obvious triviality?
>> 
>> 
>> This was a reply to 'my parents bougth an Electrolux refridgerator'.
>> 
>> I wanted to express, that buying a fridge does not prove, that this 
>> fridge was build according to Einstein's patent.
>> 
>> Sure, Electrolux gave Einstein money.
>> 
>> But that's all we could safely assume.
>> 
>> Possibly Electrolux was involved in building fast breeding reactors, but 
>> wanted to keep that secret.
>> 
>> But how could we today possibly know????
>> 
>> 
>>>>
>>>> So, we have a few facts:
>>>>
>>>> Einstein and Szillard patented a fridge
>>>> Electrolux gave them (a lot of) money
>>>> Electrolux sold tons of fridges
>>>
>>> ... some of which were based on on Einstein and Szillard's patent.
>
>>>>
>>>> But where is the proof, that these fridges were based upon Einstein's and Szillard's patent?
>>> 
>>> The simple fact that the Electrolux fridge my parents and a lot of
>>> other people bought in 1953 was an absorption refrigerator with
>>> no moving parts which had the same machinery as described here:
>>> 
>>>  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>>> 
>>> The refrigerator is described in detail.
>>> 
>>> Why don't you read it and see for yourself? Can't you read?
>>> 
>>> No sane person can read a detailed descripion of a refrigerator
>>> and believe that it is anything but a refrigerator.
>
>> Iow: was that patented device actually an absorption fridge or a part 
>> needed for a fast breeding reactor???
>
>You didn't answer my question.
>
>The "apparatus for producing refrigeration" is described in detail
>in the patent application.
>
>  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>
>This isn't a scientific text you have to be a physicist to understand.
>An engineer should be qualified to read it.
>
>Why can't you read it an see for yourself what kind of apparatus its is?
>
> > > We could check that by building a 'fridge' according to Einstein's
>> patent and check whether or not it cools.>
>> But we actually don't need to do that, because a group of engineering 
>> students did that already and found out, that Einstein's 'fridge' did 
>> NOT cool.
>> 
>> Instead it is common knowledge, that Einstein's 'fridge' is used in fast 
>> breeding reactors.
>
>SIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D and ROFL
>
>> 
>> The endresult:
>> 
>> two points for fast breeding reactor
>> 
>> zero points for 'fridge'.
>> 
>
>Can you point out where in the detailed description it
>is clear that the apparatus is a part of a fast breeding reactor?
>
>  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>
>The lines in the text are numbered, so it should be easy to refer to
>the relevant section.


 "apparatus for producing refrigeration" 

An apparatus for producing refrigeration is a device or system
engineered to actively extract heat from a specific, enclosed space or
substance and transfer it to a warmer environment, thereby lowering
the temperature within that enclosed space below the ambient
temperature. The primary function is to create and maintain a cool or
cold environment. 
Common examples range from small household refrigerators and air
conditioning units to large-scale industrial chilling systems used for
food storage facilities or data centers. 

https://www.google.com/search?q=define++%22apparatus+for+producing+refrigeration%22


You have to be naive to not know by now that Albert Einstein made
every effort not to get 'blood on his hands'.  Atomic bombs are Top
Secret then, so he had to disguise his atomic bomb manufacturing
business.

But here is another Albert Einstein patent for the 'same design',
but back then in 1928 he called his patent..."The CHILLER"!!!!

Notice, if you will... that the VERY first sentence reads:" The
invention relates to a refrigeration machine..."

"relates" is the operative word. (having shared characteristics )

https://patents.google.com/patent/CH140217A/en?inventor=Einstein+Albert&sort=old



Somebody please, turn on the air conditioner...it's so hot here.
Maybe I should stick my head inside a refridgerator...
Dollar Tree has a freezer! CHILLY in here, isn't it?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/doctor-mysteriously-found-dead-inside-dollar-tree-freezer-reportedly-naked










-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#667883 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-12-17 11:23 -0800
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<2p06kktvt7cpdkeuq2o1bdi670atcvfuqv@4ax.com>
In reply to#667874
On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 14:00:00 +0100, "Paul.B.Andersen"
<relativity@paulba.no> wrote:

>Den 17.12.2025 08:50, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> Am Dienstag000016, 16.12.2025 um 22:58 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>> Den 16.12.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>>> Am Montag000015, 15.12.2025 um 14:05 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you never read the posts you are responding to?
>>>>>
>>>>> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company
>>>>> Electrolux, which built and sold a lot of absorption refrigerators.
>>>>>
>>>>> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>>>>> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>>>>>
>>>>> I and thousands of other people have seen working fridges
>>>>> based on Einstein and Szilard's patent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, because this is a 'non sequitur'.
>>>>
>>>> Thousands of people baught absorption fridges from Electrolux.
>>>>
>>>> Sure!
>>>>
>>>> But how many of them investigated, whether or not these fridges were 
>>>> based upon Einstein's patent?
>>>>
>>>> My guess: not a single buyer did that, because nobody cared.
>>>
>>> Why are you stating this irrelevant obvious triviality?
>> 
>> 
>> This was a reply to 'my parents bougth an Electrolux refridgerator'.
>> 
>> I wanted to express, that buying a fridge does not prove, that this 
>> fridge was build according to Einstein's patent.
>> 
>> Sure, Electrolux gave Einstein money.
>> 
>> But that's all we could safely assume.
>> 
>> Possibly Electrolux was involved in building fast breeding reactors, but 
>> wanted to keep that secret.
>> 
>> But how could we today possibly know????
>> 
>> 
>>>>
>>>> So, we have a few facts:
>>>>
>>>> Einstein and Szillard patented a fridge
>>>> Electrolux gave them (a lot of) money
>>>> Electrolux sold tons of fridges
>>>
>>> ... some of which were based on on Einstein and Szillard's patent.
>
>>>>
>>>> But where is the proof, that these fridges were based upon Einstein's and Szillard's patent?
>>> 
>>> The simple fact that the Electrolux fridge my parents and a lot of
>>> other people bought in 1953 was an absorption refrigerator with
>>> no moving parts which had the same machinery as described here:
>>> 
>>>  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>>> 
>>> The refrigerator is described in detail.
>>> 
>>> Why don't you read it and see for yourself? Can't you read?
>>> 
>>> No sane person can read a detailed descripion of a refrigerator
>>> and believe that it is anything but a refrigerator.
>
>> Iow: was that patented device actually an absorption fridge or a part 
>> needed for a fast breeding reactor???
>
>You didn't answer my question.
>
>The "apparatus for producing refrigeration" is described in detail
>in the patent application.
>
>  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>
>This isn't a scientific text you have to be a physicist to understand.
>An engineer should be qualified to read it.
>
>Why can't you read it an see for yourself what kind of apparatus its is?
>
> > > We could check that by building a 'fridge' according to Einstein's
>> patent and check whether or not it cools.>
>> But we actually don't need to do that, because a group of engineering 
>> students did that already and found out, that Einstein's 'fridge' did 
>> NOT cool.
>> 
>> Instead it is common knowledge, that Einstein's 'fridge' is used in fast 
>> breeding reactors.
>
>SIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D and ROFL
>
>> 
>> The endresult:
>> 
>> two points for fast breeding reactor
>> 
>> zero points for 'fridge'.
>> 
>
>Can you point out where in the detailed description it
>is clear that the apparatus is a part of a fast breeding reactor?
>
>  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
>
>The lines in the text are numbered, so it should be easy to refer to
>the relevant section

Einstein and Szilárd's invention, patented in 1930, was a pump system
for safer, compressor-free refrigeration, later finding use in nuclear
reactors, while the AquaMotion "Einstein" pump is a highly efficient
HVAC circulator for heating/cooling systems. 

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#667875 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

From"Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2025-12-17 14:24 +0100
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<10huarq$3gcja$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#667872
Den 17.12.2025 08:50, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>> Am Montag000015, 15.12.2025 um 14:05 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>>>
>>>> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company
>>>> Electrolux, which built and sold a lot of absorption refrigerators.
>>>>
>>>> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>>>> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>>>>
>>>> I and thousands of other people have seen working fridges
>>>> based on Einstein and Szilard's patent.
>>>

> I wanted to express, that buying a fridge does not prove, that this 
> fridge was build according to Einstein's patent.
> 
> Sure, Electrolux gave Einstein money.
> 
> But that's all we could safely assume.
> 
> Possibly Electrolux was involved in building fast breeding reactors, but 
> wanted to keep that secret.
> 
> But how could we today possibly know????
Maybe we today could read the patent application and see what kind
of apparatus it is?

  
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf



-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#667897 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-12-18 22:13 -0800
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<t3r9kkppbesh7hjrc1h98ad0tnkgp3sipi@4ax.com>
In reply to#667872
On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 08:50:10 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:

>Am Dienstag000016, 16.12.2025 um 22:58 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>> Den 16.12.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>> Am Montag000015, 15.12.2025 um 14:05 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>>>
>>>> Do you never read the posts you are responding to?
>>>>
>>>> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company
>>>> Electrolux, which built and sold a lot of absorption refrigerators.
>>>>
>>>> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>>>> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>>>>
>>>> I and thousands of other people have seen working fridges
>>>> based on Einstein and Szilard's patent.
>>>
>>>
>>> No, because this is a 'non sequitur'.
>>>
>>> Thousands of people baught absorption fridges from Electrolux.
>>>
>>> Sure!
>>>
>>> But how many of them investigated, whether or not these fridges were 
>>> based upon Einstein's patent?
>>>
>>> My guess: not a single buyer did that, because nobody cared.
>> 
>> Why are you stating this irrelevant obvious triviality?
>
>
>This was a reply to 'my parents bougth an Electrolux refridgerator'.
>
>I wanted to express, that buying a fridge does not prove, that this 
>fridge was build according to Einstein's patent.
>
>Sure, Electrolux gave Einstein money.
>
>But that's all we could safely assume.
>
>Possibly Electrolux was involved in building fast breeding reactors, but 
>wanted to keep that secret.
>
>But how could we today possibly know????
>
>
>>>
>>> So, we have a few facts:
>>>
>>> Einstein and Szillard patented a fridge
>>> Electrolux gave them (a lot of) money
>>> Electrolux sold tons of fridges
>> 
>> ... some of which were based on on Einstein and Szillard's patent.
>
>
>THAT was actually the question.
>
>Iow: was that patented device actually an absorption fridge or a part 
>needed for a fast breeding reactor????
>
>We could check that by building a 'fridge' according to Einstein's 
>patent and check whether or not it cools.
>
>But we actually don't need to do that, because a group of engineering 
>students did that already and found out, that Einstein's 'fridge' did 
>NOT cool.
>
>Instead it is common knowledge, that Einstein's 'fridge' is used in fast 
>breeding reactors.
>
>The endresult:
>
>two points for fast breeding reactor
>
>zero points for 'fridge'.
>
>
>TH
>
>...

"common knowledge"??? that is lacking with these people...

"Never used in refrigerators, their pump was later adapted for the
circulation of coolants in the controversial fast-breeder nuclear
reactor—“an irony that would not have been lost on either Einstein or
Szilard.” (Bernard Feld, Einstein and Nuclear Weapons, Holton and
Elkana, p. 391.)"
-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#667898 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-12-19 12:02 -0800
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<m7bbkk54ko3b3823fbaio7d32tnvvqquie@4ax.com>
In reply to#667897
On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 22:13:22 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 08:50:10 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
>wrote:
>
>>Am Dienstag000016, 16.12.2025 um 22:58 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>> Den 16.12.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:
>>>> Am Montag000015, 15.12.2025 um 14:05 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you never read the posts you are responding to?
>>>>>
>>>>> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company
>>>>> Electrolux, which built and sold a lot of absorption refrigerators.
>>>>>
>>>>> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought
>>>>> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.
>>>>>
>>>>> I and thousands of other people have seen working fridges
>>>>> based on Einstein and Szilard's patent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, because this is a 'non sequitur'.
>>>>
>>>> Thousands of people baught absorption fridges from Electrolux.
>>>>
>>>> Sure!
>>>>
>>>> But how many of them investigated, whether or not these fridges were 
>>>> based upon Einstein's patent?
>>>>
>>>> My guess: not a single buyer did that, because nobody cared.
>>> 
>>> Why are you stating this irrelevant obvious triviality?
>>
>>
>>This was a reply to 'my parents bougth an Electrolux refridgerator'.
>>
>>I wanted to express, that buying a fridge does not prove, that this 
>>fridge was build according to Einstein's patent.
>>
>>Sure, Electrolux gave Einstein money.
>>
>>But that's all we could safely assume.
>>
>>Possibly Electrolux was involved in building fast breeding reactors, but 
>>wanted to keep that secret.
>>
>>But how could we today possibly know????
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> So, we have a few facts:
>>>>
>>>> Einstein and Szillard patented a fridge
>>>> Electrolux gave them (a lot of) money
>>>> Electrolux sold tons of fridges
>>> 
>>> ... some of which were based on on Einstein and Szillard's patent.
>>
>>
>>THAT was actually the question.
>>
>>Iow: was that patented device actually an absorption fridge or a part 
>>needed for a fast breeding reactor????
>>
>>We could check that by building a 'fridge' according to Einstein's 
>>patent and check whether or not it cools.
>>
>>But we actually don't need to do that, because a group of engineering 
>>students did that already and found out, that Einstein's 'fridge' did 
>>NOT cool.
>>
>>Instead it is common knowledge, that Einstein's 'fridge' is used in fast 
>>breeding reactors.
>>
>>The endresult:
>>
>>two points for fast breeding reactor
>>
>>zero points for 'fridge'.
>>
>>
>>TH
>>
>>...
>
>"common knowledge"??? that is lacking with these people...
>
>"Never used in refrigerators, their pump was later adapted for the
>circulation of coolants in the controversial fast-breeder nuclear
>reactor—“an irony that would not have been lost on either Einstein or
>Szilard.” (Bernard Feld, Einstein and Nuclear Weapons, Holton and
>Elkana, p. 391.)"


Looks to me like  EVERYBODY has a patent on a Refridgerator!

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=f6c74f9de523a440&sxsrf=AE3TifPNUc33Lgs_q5P7-XN0_4gmLM5k7Q:1766173780459&udm=2&fbs=&q=Pressurized+Water+Reactor


Where can I buy one? 

https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1148279328121090048/photo/1

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#667877 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromLynn Dobronos <rlbs@ddn.ru>
Date2025-12-17 16:51 +0000
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<10hun2u$3mg08$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#667865
Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

> Den 16.12.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> So, we have a few facts:
>> 
>> Einstein and Szillard patented a fridge Electrolux gave them (a lot of)
>> money Electrolux sold tons of fridges
> 
> ... some of which were based on on Einstein and Szillard's patent.

nonsense, that patent was stolen. The man was working deep into the 
patents, for fuck sake. Should I draw a picture to ya??

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#667879 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2025-12-17 18:24 +0100
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<10huovi$2f9ov$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#667865
Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
> Den 16.12.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> But where is the proof, that these fridges were based upon Einstein's 
>> and Szillard's patent?
> 
> The simple fact that the Electrolux fridge my parents and a lot of
> other people bought in 1953 was an absorption refrigerator with
> no moving parts which had the same machinery as described here:
> 
>   https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde176701fab8/US1781541.pdf
> 
> The refigerator is described in detail.

Moreover, the patent application ("filed December 16, 1927, Serial No.
240,566, and in Germany December 16, 1926") reads

"ALBERT EINSTEIN, OF BERLIN, AND LEO SZILARD, of BERLIN-WILMERSDORF,
GERMANY, ASSIGNORS TO ELECTROLUX SERVEL CORPORATION OF NEW YORK, N.Y., A.
CORPORATION OF DELAWARE"

In law, an assignor is a person who "transfers rights or benefits to
another, the assignee":

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assignment_(law)>

,-<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servel>
|
| "Servel was an American manufacturer of heating and cooling appliances,
| founded in 1922. [...]  In 1925, the company bought American rights to a
| Swedish patent for a continuous absorption refrigerator and started
| to focus on the gas refrigeration market. [...] In 1939, Servel (then
| Electrolux-Servel) exhibited its residential gas air conditioner at the
| New York World's Fair.[3]"

IOW, Einstein and Szilárd filed the patent *so that* Electrolux-Servel could
use it to build absorption refrigerators based on their invention.  In
return, they received royalty payments from Electrolux-Servel.

>> You only think they did, because Electrolux spent money.
>>
>> But actually there are all sorts of reasons thinkable, why some company 
>> would like to give somebody money and declare that as spending for patents.
> 
> So why do you think that Electrolux gave Einstein money?

Exactly.  As usual, Thomas Heger makes a ludicrous claim to make up a
conspiracy theory.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#667890 — Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-12-18 06:49 +0000
SubjectRe: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM)
Message-ID<10i085p$40fb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#667765
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 08:19:04 +0100, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Einstein and Szillard patented a device, which is commonly called 
> 'Einstein's fridge'.

He also tried to design an airplane wing that operated according to the 
Bernoulli principle (lift created by faster airflow over the upper surface 
than the lower one).

It didn’t work.

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