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The real measurements deny The Shit

Started byMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
First post2025-08-21 06:58 +0200
Last post2025-08-24 08:13 +0200
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  The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-21 06:58 +0200
    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-21 21:36 +0200
      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-21 19:39 +0000
        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 11:06 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-22 16:07 +0000
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 18:43 +0200
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-22 16:50 +0000
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 18:55 +0200
      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-21 23:32 +0200
        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-22 20:20 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 20:58 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 21:22 +0200
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-23 22:33 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-24 00:26 +0200
                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-24 23:18 +0200
                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-25 06:19 +0200
                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-25 21:36 +0200
                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-25 22:03 +0200
                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-26 10:53 +0200
                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-26 11:51 +0200
                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-27 12:00 +0200
                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-27 14:02 +0200
                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-28 19:54 +0200
                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-28 21:22 +0200
                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-28 20:09 +0000
                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-28 22:35 +0200
                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-28 20:44 +0000
                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-28 23:24 +0200
                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-29 20:41 +0200
                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:06 +0000
                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 08:30 +0200
                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 08:45 +0200
                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-29 14:52 +0200
                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-29 15:16 +0200
                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-30 11:56 +0200
                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 12:14 +0200
                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Tharon Turlapov <pv@llh.ru> - 2025-08-30 10:28 +0000
                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 12:49 +0200
                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Micha Wojewódka <iaek@oahdfewd.pl> - 2025-08-30 11:04 +0000
                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 14:23 +0200
                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-30 12:37 +0000
                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Joshawa Lécuyer <ucyr@asaa.fr> - 2025-08-30 12:51 +0000
                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-30 12:54 +0000
                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Daryel Chevalier <elri@rrdird.fr> - 2025-08-30 19:46 +0000
                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-30 15:02 +0200
                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Ulisez Walentowicz <at@letlizs.pl> - 2025-08-30 20:00 +0000
                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-31 14:14 +0200
                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-08-31 12:46 +0000
                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Zackee Dovlatov <ozdvzc@taaddd.ru> - 2025-08-31 15:52 +0000
                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-08-31 17:09 +0000
                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-31 14:50 +0200
                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Harless Eli Sokolowski <wklo@asslo.pl> - 2025-08-31 15:55 +0000
                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-08-31 17:14 +0000
                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-31 20:37 +0200
                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-31 21:11 +0200
                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 12:02 -0700
                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Orren Halapkhaev <vla@vnara.ru> - 2025-08-31 19:11 +0000
                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 12:16 -0700
                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-31 12:54 +0200
                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-31 13:38 +0200
                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-31 19:49 +0200
                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-31 20:06 +0200
                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-31 21:03 +0200
                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-31 21:17 +0200
                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-01 08:54 +0200
                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-01 21:13 +0200
                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-01 22:40 +0200
                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-02 07:40 +0200
                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-02 08:03 +0200
                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-02 10:15 +0200
                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-02 19:27 +0200
                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-02 22:02 +0200
                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Eudaldo Kabaloev <kouu@oeoev.ru> - 2025-09-02 20:22 +0000
                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-02 23:07 +0200
                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-03 15:53 +0200
                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-03 16:45 +0200
                                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-04 22:31 +0200
                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-04 23:11 +0200
                                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-04 22:02 +0000
                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-05 07:06 +0200
                                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-05 11:25 +0200
                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-05 12:38 +0200
                                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-06 21:59 +0200
                                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Wilber Mihalev <wilva@birli.ru> - 2025-09-06 21:06 +0000
                                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-06 23:12 +0200
                                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-07 20:26 +0200
                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-03 14:10 +0200
                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-03 14:33 +0200
                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-03 14:47 +0200
                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Alan Zdunowski <lzwski@uduawwi.pl> - 2025-09-03 12:52 +0000
                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-03 21:03 +0200
                                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Bernabe Jaskulski <ae@ae.pl> - 2025-09-03 20:10 +0000
                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-04 22:38 +0200
                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-04 20:03 +0200
                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Douglas Bazhaev <lughv@ao.ru> - 2025-09-04 18:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-04 20:32 +0200
                                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-05 10:16 +0200
                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-05 11:02 +0200
                                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-06 20:07 +0200
                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-06 20:35 +0200
                                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-06 18:46 +0000
                                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-06 21:00 +0200
                                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-06 19:07 +0000
                                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-06 21:24 +0200
                                                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-06 19:25 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Jhon Kabulov <hv@jvlnuu.ru> - 2025-09-06 20:48 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-06 23:15 +0200
                                                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-07 08:19 +0000
                                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-07 11:00 +0200
                                                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-07 10:55 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Teobaldo Szczepanski <aznpic@lndsisde.pl> - 2025-09-07 11:27 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-07 12:01 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Javier Poingdestre <vjdjra@ned.fr> - 2025-09-08 07:36 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-08 09:13 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Merlin Lebeau <bemnla@reera.fr> - 2025-09-08 10:14 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-08 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Kalob Lévêque <lk@vujl.fr> - 2025-09-09 15:50 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-07 14:46 +0200
                                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-06 22:21 +0200
                                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-06 23:18 +0200
                                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-07 20:26 +0200
                                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-07 21:30 +0200
                                                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-07 20:15 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-07 22:34 +0200
                                                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-07 20:38 +0000
                                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-07 22:58 +0200
                                                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-08 14:44 +0200
                                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-08 14:51 +0200
                                                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-08 14:03 +0000
                                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-08 17:01 +0200
                                                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-08 16:23 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-08 19:13 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-08 17:18 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-08 19:44 +0200
                                                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-08 22:27 +0200
                                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-08 22:31 +0200
                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-07 13:30 +0200
                                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-09 09:07 +0200
                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-09 09:49 +0200
                                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-10 11:02 +0200
                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-10 10:38 +0000
                                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-10 12:48 +0200
                                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-12 07:59 +0200
                                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-12 05:58 +0000
                                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-13 08:41 +0200
                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Eniel Babadei <aali@eeid.ru> - 2025-09-09 09:01 +0000
                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2025-09-08 11:05 +0000
                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-08 14:19 +0200
                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-08 21:53 +0200
                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2025-09-08 23:49 +0000
                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-09 10:37 +0200
                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-09 10:39 +0200
                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2025-09-09 11:22 +0000
                                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-09 22:53 +0200
                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-10 06:45 +0200
                                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-10 22:09 +0200
                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-10 20:38 +0000
                                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-11 07:10 +0200
                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-11 07:09 +0200
                                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-11 19:16 +0200
                                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-11 19:58 +0200
                                                                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-12 11:31 +0200
                                                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-12 12:44 +0200
                                                                                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-12 14:00 +0200
                                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-12 14:13 +0200
                                                                                            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-13 12:51 +0200
                                                                                              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-13 12:57 +0200
                                                                          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Jamie Kabisha <jsbaj@jiaaa.ru> - 2025-09-10 12:26 +0000
                                                                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-08 23:32 +0200
                                                                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2025-09-08 23:55 +0000
                                                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Simei Wojewódzki <ze@zeizy.pl> - 2025-08-31 19:07 +0000
                                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Evan Marchuk <va@ar.ru> - 2025-08-28 21:02 +0000
                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-25 22:24 +0200
                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-25 22:31 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-23 22:15 +0200
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-24 00:29 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-24 23:44 +0200
                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:41 +0000
                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-25 06:33 +0200
                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-25 06:37 +0200
                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-25 22:05 +0200
      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-22 08:56 +0200
      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-22 10:13 +0200
        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 11:04 +0200
        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-22 19:28 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 19:44 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-22 20:41 +0200
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 20:55 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-23 20:53 +0200
                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-24 00:08 +0200
          Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-22 20:53 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-08-22 21:10 +0200
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-23 20:30 +0200
              Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-26 21:02 +0200
                Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-27 14:28 +0200
                  Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-27 21:14 +0200
                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Lazaro Wojewódka <jole@lqae.pl> - 2025-08-27 19:37 +0000
                    Re: The real measurements deny The Shit "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-08-28 09:57 +0200
                      Re: The real measurements deny The Shit nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-08-28 22:55 +0200
                        Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Chadwick Wojewódzki <ik@zwij.pl> - 2025-08-28 21:16 +0000
            Re: The real measurements deny The Shit Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-08-24 08:13 +0200

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#665900

FromPython <jp@python.invalid>
Date2025-09-10 10:38 +0000
Message-ID<DBv8E469DDW4RbjBmzhvVbU9-Ig@jntp>
In reply to#665899
Le 10/09/2025 à 10:57, Thomas Heger a écrit :
..
> Something will remain in the 'dragnet' and in my approach 'structured 
> spacetime' was the final remainder.
> 
> Then I took this as valid and tried to replicate all sort of phenomena, 
> but based upon this concept.
> 
> And as far as I can tell, it always worked well.

Any single quantitative result or prediction?

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#665901

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-10 12:48 +0200
Message-ID<1863e61b74e49775$3124901$2361132$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#665900
On 9/10/2025 12:38 PM, Python wrote:
> Le 10/09/2025 à 10:57, Thomas Heger a écrit :
> ..
>> Something will remain in the 'dragnet' and in my approach 'structured 
>> spacetime' was the final remainder.
>>
>> Then I took this as valid and tried to replicate all sort of 
>> phenomena, but based upon this concept.
>>
>> And as far as I can tell, it always worked well.
> 
> Any single quantitative result or prediction?
> 
> 

Sure, quantitive predictions are
very important.
Take a look at The Shit. It says
that clocks should indicate time dilation
and gives the numbers. The clocks indicate
t'=t (anyone can check GPS), but they should
indicate time dilation, so The Shit is
correct.

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#665966

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-09-12 07:59 +0200
Message-ID<mihqu5F8bv4U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#665900
Am Mittwoch000010, 10.09.2025 um 12:38 schrieb Python:
> Le 10/09/2025 à 10:57, Thomas Heger a écrit :
> ..
>> Something will remain in the 'dragnet' and in my approach 'structured 
>> spacetime' was the final remainder.
>>
>> Then I took this as valid and tried to replicate all sort of 
>> phenomena, but based upon this concept.
>>
>> And as far as I can tell, it always worked well.
> 
> Any single quantitative result or prediction?
> 

I regard my paper:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

as strictly conceptual.

My main problem with biquaternion math:

it is not particularly easy to use and I still haven't found appropriate 
tools.

There are some closely related things in 'geometric algebra' like e.g. 
by Heestenes.

But I would need something slightly different, which I had not found and 
couldn't create myself.

That part was 'postponed' in 2008, but never continued.

Sorry...

TH

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#665968

FromPython <jp@python.invalid>
Date2025-09-12 05:58 +0000
Message-ID<FWfbNNy2ha5GiDKt5eut-MABkZI@jntp>
In reply to#665966
Le 12/09/2025 à 07:55, Thomas Heger a écrit :
> Am Mittwoch000010, 10.09.2025 um 12:38 schrieb Python:
>> Le 10/09/2025 à 10:57, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>> ..
>>> Something will remain in the 'dragnet' and in my approach 'structured 
>>> spacetime' was the final remainder.
>>>
>>> Then I took this as valid and tried to replicate all sort of 
>>> phenomena, but based upon this concept.
>>>
>>> And as far as I can tell, it always worked well.
>> 
>> Any single quantitative result or prediction?
>> 
> 
> I regard my paper:
> 
> 
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing
> 
> as strictly conceptual.

I regard you paper as absolute bullshit.

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#666007

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-09-13 08:41 +0200
Message-ID<mikhp7Fm89fU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#665968
Am Freitag000012, 12.09.2025 um 07:58 schrieb Python:
> Le 12/09/2025 à 07:55, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>> Am Mittwoch000010, 10.09.2025 um 12:38 schrieb Python:
>>> Le 10/09/2025 à 10:57, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>> ..
>>>> Something will remain in the 'dragnet' and in my approach 
>>>> 'structured spacetime' was the final remainder.
>>>>
>>>> Then I took this as valid and tried to replicate all sort of 
>>>> phenomena, but based upon this concept.
>>>>
>>>> And as far as I can tell, it always worked well.
>>>
>>> Any single quantitative result or prediction?
>>>
>>
>> I regard my paper:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/ 
>> d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> as strictly conceptual.
> 
> I regard you paper as absolute bullshit.

Could you be a litte more specific and tell me, what actually you didn't 
like.

I made an attempt to solve one of the most prominent riddles in physics 
and tried to unite GR and QM 'under a single roof'.

The main difference to other approaches to the same problem was, that I 
wanted to start at the 'GR side'.

This means, that my aim wasn't to create something like 'quantum 
gravity', but my aim was to create particles out of spacetime.

Gravity is a non-topic in my 'book', because that was already covered by GR.

My aim was to create 'all things quantum' out of spacetime.

The idea behind this concept was rather simple:

if the other way round (from QM->GR) didn't work, then the other way 
(from GR->QM) could eventually function.

This was my relatively simple approach to this problem.

And as far as I can tell, this way is possible.

TH

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#665866

FromEniel Babadei <aali@eeid.ru>
Date2025-09-09 09:01 +0000
Message-ID<109oqe2$srnt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#665862
Thomas Heger wrote:

>> Therefore I think it is best to keep pure geometry,
>> (as given by general relativity)
>> and the physics that plays out in that geometry as separate as
>> possible,
> 
> My own approach to this problem was:
> 
> assume that spacetime of GR is real and make particles (and 'all things
> quantum') out of that.

you cant assume that, please assume something else. Assume exactly the 
opposite.

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#665838

FromHenryWilson <Hgw@home.com>
Date2025-09-08 11:05 +0000
Message-ID<186349eab076c2fa$5635$2283398$4286dcd3@news.newsgroupdirect.com>
In reply to#665747
On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 21:13:06 +0200, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

> Den 01.09.2025 08:54, skrev Maciej Woźniak:
>> On 8/31/2025 9:17 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:

> 
> Now, when you have explained the difference, I am not so stupid that I
> accept GR's prediction for the deflection of space.
> GR is nonsense! "deflection of space" doesn't even make sense!
> 
> It is hoverer strange that real measurements show that light is
> deflected exactly as much as GR predicts that space should be deflected.
> An accidental coincidence, of course.
> 
> 
>> You're an idiot, Paul. They may show you a sheep, scream "this shark is
>> some unbeatable  EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE that sharks eat grass!!!!" - and
>> you will buy it as a hard proof. And that's generally how relativistic
>> physics works.
>> 
>> 
> That a sheep eats grass even if you call it a shark is obviously some
> unbeatable EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE that falsifies GR!
> 
> You have won. GR is nonsense!
> 
> Well done!

I see nothing has changed here in my absence. You will be pleased to know 
that I am alive and well. I have also made great progress.

If light is deflected exactly as GR predicts in the transverse direction 
why is it not also deflected (accelerated or decelerated) in its direction 
of travel.

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#665839

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-08 14:19 +0200
Message-ID<18634decbc850f66$34666$2472716$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#665838
On 9/8/2025 1:05 PM, HenryWilson wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 21:13:06 +0200, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> 
>> Den 01.09.2025 08:54, skrev Maciej Woźniak:
>>> On 8/31/2025 9:17 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> 
>>
>> Now, when you have explained the difference, I am not so stupid that I
>> accept GR's prediction for the deflection of space.
>> GR is nonsense! "deflection of space" doesn't even make sense!
>>
>> It is hoverer strange that real measurements show that light is
>> deflected exactly as much as GR predicts that space should be deflected.
>> An accidental coincidence, of course.
>>
>>
>>> You're an idiot, Paul. They may show you a sheep, scream "this shark is
>>> some unbeatable  EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE that sharks eat grass!!!!" - and
>>> you will buy it as a hard proof. And that's generally how relativistic
>>> physics works.
>>>
>>>
>> That a sheep eats grass even if you call it a shark is obviously some
>> unbeatable EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE that falsifies GR!
>>
>> You have won. GR is nonsense!
>>
>> Well done!
> 
> I see nothing has changed here in my absence. You will be pleased to know
> that I am alive and well. I have also made great progress.
> 
> If light is deflected exactly as GR predicts 

GR shit predicts no deflection of light,
according to it light paths in vacuum are
always straight/geodesic lines.


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#665853

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2025-09-08 21:53 +0200
Message-ID<StGvQ.20163$%XC7.11224@fx07.ams4>
In reply to#665838
Den 08.09.2025 13:05, skrev HenryWilson:
> 
> I see nothing has changed here in my absence. You will be pleased to know
> that I am alive and well. I have also made great progress.

Welcome back!
I have missed the old quality crackpots! :-)

> 
> If light is deflected exactly as GR predicts in the transverse direction
> why is it not also deflected (accelerated or decelerated) in its direction
> of travel.
> 

Because a photon is massless so its speed in vacuum is always c.
Exactly as GR predicts.
So it's only the direction of the photon velocity that changes.

https://paulba.no/Deflection.html

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#665858

FromHenryWilson <Hgw@home.com>
Date2025-09-08 23:49 +0000
Message-ID<1863739bf23e4e55$6732$2283398$4286dcd3@news.newsgroupdirect.com>
In reply to#665853
On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 21:53:34 +0200, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

> Den 08.09.2025 13:05, skrev HenryWilson:
>> 
>> I see nothing has changed here in my absence. You will be pleased to
>> know that I am alive and well. I have also made great progress.
> 
> Welcome back!
> I have missed the old quality crackpots! :-)
> 
> 
>> If light is deflected exactly as GR predicts in the transverse
>> direction why is it not also deflected (accelerated or decelerated) in
>> its direction of travel.
>> 
>> 
> Because a photon is massless so its speed in vacuum is always c.
> Exactly as GR predicts.

Gr does not predict that. It states it as a postulate.

Light is assumed massless because if it wasn't, neither GR nor SR would 
work. Light certainly behaves as though it possesses mass.

> So it's only the direction of the photon velocity that changes.
> 
> https://paulba.no/Deflection.html

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#665864

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2025-09-09 10:37 +0200
Message-ID<SFRvQ.40120$qPGe.20511@fx16.ams4>
In reply to#665858
Den 09.09.2025 01:49, skrev HenryWilson:
> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 21:53:34 +0200, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> 
>> Den 08.09.2025 13:05, skrev HenryWilson:
>>>
>>> I see nothing has changed here in my absence. You will be pleased to
>>> know that I am alive and well. I have also made great progress.
>>
>> Welcome back!
>> I have missed the old quality crackpots! :-)
>>
>>
>>> If light is deflected exactly as GR predicts in the transverse
>>> direction why is it not also deflected (accelerated or decelerated) in
>>> its direction of travel.
>>>
>>>
>> Because a photon is massless so its speed in vacuum is always c.
>> Exactly as GR predicts.
> 
> Gr does not predict that. It states it as a postulate.
> 
> Light is assumed massless because if it wasn't, neither GR nor SR would
> work. Light certainly behaves as though it possesses mass.
> 
>> So it's only the direction of the photon velocity that changes.
>>
>> https://paulba.no/Deflection.html
> 

What GR predicts is not a matter of opinion,
it is a matter of fact.

https://paulba.no/pdf/GravitationalDeflection.pdf

GR's prediction of gravitational deflection of
EM-radiation is so thoroughly experimentally confirmed
that it can be considered a fact.

Some of the experimental evidence:
https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Shapiro_2004.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Fomalont.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini_2.pdf

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#665865

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-09 10:39 +0200
Message-ID<18639088bba0c80d$2950377$2911792$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#665864
On 9/9/2025 10:37 AM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 09.09.2025 01:49, skrev HenryWilson:
>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 21:53:34 +0200, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>
>>> Den 08.09.2025 13:05, skrev HenryWilson:
>>>>
>>>> I see nothing has changed here in my absence. You will be pleased to
>>>> know that I am alive and well. I have also made great progress.
>>>
>>> Welcome back!
>>> I have missed the old quality crackpots! :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>> If light is deflected exactly as GR predicts in the transverse
>>>> direction why is it not also deflected (accelerated or decelerated) in
>>>> its direction of travel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Because a photon is massless so its speed in vacuum is always c.
>>> Exactly as GR predicts.
>>
>> Gr does not predict that. It states it as a postulate.
>>
>> Light is assumed massless because if it wasn't, neither GR nor SR would
>> work. Light certainly behaves as though it possesses mass.
>>
>>> So it's only the direction of the photon velocity that changes.
>>>
>>> https://paulba.no/Deflection.html
>>
> 
> What GR predicts is not a matter of opinion,
> it is a matter of fact.


And the fact is that it predicts NO
light deflection, the path of light
in vacuum is according to it  a
straight line by definition.

An incompetent idiot asserting otherwise
is just an incompetent idiot asserting
otherwise.

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#665867

FromHenryWilson <Hgw@home.com>
Date2025-09-09 11:22 +0000
Message-ID<186399638559ca45$6089$2283398$4286dcd3@news.newsgroupdirect.com>
In reply to#665864
On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 10:37:20 +0200, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

> Den 09.09.2025 01:49, skrev HenryWilson:
>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 21:53:34 +0200, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> 
>>> Den 08.09.2025 13:05, skrev HenryWilson:
>>>>
>
>>> Because a photon is massless so its speed in vacuum is always c.
>>> Exactly as GR predicts.
>> 
>> Gr does not predict that. It states it as a postulate.
>> 
>> Light is assumed massless because if it wasn't, neither GR nor SR would
>> work. Light certainly behaves as though it possesses mass.
>> 
>>> So it's only the direction of the photon velocity that changes.
>>>
>>> https://paulba.no/Deflection.html
>> 
>> 
> What GR predicts is not a matter of opinion,
> it is a matter of fact.
> 
> https://paulba.no/pdf/GravitationalDeflection.pdf
> 
> GR's prediction of gravitational deflection of EM-radiation is so
> thoroughly experimentally confirmed that it can be considered a fact.

Like Einstein's hilarious gravitational redshift. When light is sent 
vertically upawards it slows down like anything else and each wavelength 
shrinks proportionaly. That sounds like a blue shift to me. But the joker 
Einstein says, "NO it cannot change speed and it has no mass so it can 
only lose energy by lowering its frequency." Hahahaahaa!

Two problems Paul.. 1. Light does not have a frequency and 2. Large stars 
like Vega are strongly BLUE shifted.  
 
> Some of the experimental evidence:
> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf
> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini.pdf
> https://paulba.no/paper/Shapiro_2004.pdf
> https://paulba.no/paper/Fomalont.pdf
> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini_2.pdf

...all full of assumptions. .easy to get the answer you want.

Paul, if light's deflection is really double the Newtonian 
prediction....which has never been convincingly proved...it would merely 
tell us that light's gravitational mass is twice its inertial mass. So it 
deflects twice as much as ordinary matter. An analogy might be the 
deflection of a singly and a doubly ionized helium atom by an electric 
field. 
After all, what is 'mass' anyway? 
..You can certainly learn a lot from Newton.

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#665888

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2025-09-09 22:53 +0200
Message-ID<Br0wQ.8581$Cw0f.7012@fx06.ams4>
In reply to#665867
Den 09.09.2025 13:22, skrev HenryWilson:
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 10:37:20 +0200, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> 
>> Den 09.09.2025 01:49, skrev HenryWilson:
>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 21:53:34 +0200, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Den 08.09.2025 13:05, skrev HenryWilson:
>>>>>
>>
>>>> Because a photon is massless so its speed in vacuum is always c.
>>>> Exactly as GR predicts.
>>>
>>> Gr does not predict that. It states it as a postulate.
>>>
>>> Light is assumed massless because if it wasn't, neither GR nor SR would
>>> work. Light certainly behaves as though it possesses mass.
>>>
>>>> So it's only the direction of the photon velocity that changes.
>>>>
>>>> https://paulba.no/Deflection.html
>>>
>>>
>> What GR predicts is not a matter of opinion,
>> it is a matter of fact.
>>
>> https://paulba.no/pdf/GravitationalDeflection.pdf
>>
>> GR's prediction of gravitational deflection of EM-radiation is so
>> thoroughly experimentally confirmed that it can be considered a fact.
> 
> Like Einstein's hilarious gravitational redshift. When light is sent
> vertically upawards it slows down like anything else and each wavelength
> shrinks proportionaly. That sounds like a blue shift to me. But the joker
> Einstein says, "NO it cannot change speed and it has no mass so it can
> only lose energy by lowering its frequency." Hahahaahaa!

Experimental evidence trumps your opinion.

https://paulba.no/paper/Pound&Snider.pdf
https://paulba.no/pdf/PoundRebka.pdf

> 
> Two problems Paul.. 1. Light does not have a frequency and 2. Large stars
> like Vega are strongly BLUE shifted.

The gravitational red shift of light from Vega
when it hits the Sun is:
  ≈ 1 - G⋅(Mᵥ − Mₛ)/c²⋅r = 1 - 7.17e-15
where
  G = gravitational constant
  c = speed of light in vacuum
  Mₛ = solar mass
  Mᵥ = mass of Vega = 2.135 Mₛ
  r = distance Vega - Sun = 25.05 ly

Vega is moving towards Sun at v = 13.9 km/s
The blue shift caused by Doppler is:
≈ 1 + v/c = 1 + 4.64e-5

The gravitational red shift is negligible
compared to the Doppler shift-

So the blue shift of the light from Vega is ≈ 1 + 4.64e-5,
a very moderate blue shift indeed.

 From whence did you get the idea that Vega is "strongly BLUE shifted"?

I know, of course.
You are confusing a blue star with a blue shifted star.
Blunder! :-D

The surface temperature of Vega is ~10,000⁰K.
The spectrum of a star is a black-body spectrum with absorption lines.
A 10,000⁰K black body spectrum will peak in the blue part of
the visible spectrum, the Vega will appear blue.

The surface temperature of the Sun is 5772⁰K.
A 5,772⁰K black body spectrum will peak in somewhere in the middle
of the visible spectrum, so the Sun will appear yellow/white.

>   
>> Some of the experimental evidence:
>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf
>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini.pdf
>> https://paulba.no/paper/Shapiro_2004.pdf
>> https://paulba.no/paper/Fomalont.pdf
>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini_2.pdf
> 
> ...all full of assumptions. .easy to get the answer you want.

Don't pretend you have read them.

> 
> Paul, if light's deflection is really double the Newtonian
> prediction....which has never been convincingly proved...it would merely
> tell us that light's gravitational mass is twice its inertial mass. So it
> deflects twice as much as ordinary matter. An analogy might be the
> deflection of a singly and a doubly ionized helium atom by an electric
> field.
> After all, what is 'mass' anyway?
> ..You can certainly learn a lot from Newton.

This is nonsense.
Experimental evidence trumps your fantasies.

GR's prediction of gravitational deflection of EM-radiation is so
thoroughly experimentally confirmed that it can be considered a fact.

It's settled.

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#665896

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-10 06:45 +0200
Message-ID<1863d2526cadace8$2904050$2361132$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#665888
On 9/9/2025 10:53 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 09.09.2025 13:22, skrev HenryWilson:
>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 10:37:20 +0200, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>
>>> Den 09.09.2025 01:49, skrev HenryWilson:
>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 21:53:34 +0200, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Den 08.09.2025 13:05, skrev HenryWilson:
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Because a photon is massless so its speed in vacuum is always c.
>>>>> Exactly as GR predicts.
>>>>
>>>> Gr does not predict that. It states it as a postulate.
>>>>
>>>> Light is assumed massless because if it wasn't, neither GR nor SR would
>>>> work. Light certainly behaves as though it possesses mass.
>>>>
>>>>> So it's only the direction of the photon velocity that changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://paulba.no/Deflection.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What GR predicts is not a matter of opinion,
>>> it is a matter of fact.
>>>
>>> https://paulba.no/pdf/GravitationalDeflection.pdf
>>>
>>> GR's prediction of gravitational deflection of EM-radiation is so
>>> thoroughly experimentally confirmed that it can be considered a fact.
>>
>> Like Einstein's hilarious gravitational redshift. When light is sent
>> vertically upawards it slows down like anything else and each wavelength
>> shrinks proportionaly. That sounds like a blue shift to me. But the joker
>> Einstein says, "NO it cannot change speed and it has no mass so it can
>> only lose energy by lowering its frequency." Hahahaahaa!
> 
> Experimental evidence trumps your opinion.

It's not any experimental evidence, it's
just some assertions of a bunch of brainwashed
religious maniacs, unfortunately.

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#665910

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2025-09-10 22:09 +0200
Message-ID<uUkwQ.23665$mHcd.621@fx15.ams4>
In reply to#665896
Den 10.09.2025 06:45, skrev Maciej Woźniak:
> On 9/9/2025 10:53 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Experimental evidence trumps your opinion.
>> 
>> https://paulba.no/paper/Pound&Snider.pdf
>> https://paulba.no/pdf/PoundRebka.pdf


> 
> It's not any experimental evidence, it's
> just some assertions of a bunch of brainwashed
> religious maniacs, unfortunately.
> 


According to Maciej Woźniak, Professor Robert Vivian Pound,
receiver of the National Medal of Science in 1990,
is a brainwashed religious maniac.

Do you think calling famous scientists "brainwashed religious maniacs"
will make you look smart, Maciej?

😂


-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#665912

FromPython <jp@python.invalid>
Date2025-09-10 20:38 +0000
Message-ID<3ysEDLDfVN20QOcJ2V44a1SJXYQ@jntp>
In reply to#665910
Le 10/09/2025 à 22:07, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
> Den 10.09.2025 06:45, skrev Maciej Woźniak:
>> On 9/9/2025 10:53 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Experimental evidence trumps your opinion.
>>> 
>>> https://paulba.no/paper/Pound&Snider.pdf
>>> https://paulba.no/pdf/PoundRebka.pdf
> 
> 
>> 
>> It's not any experimental evidence, it's
>> just some assertions of a bunch of brainwashed
>> religious maniacs, unfortunately.
>> 
> 
> 
> According to Maciej Woźniak, Professor Robert Vivian Pound,
> receiver of the National Medal of Science in 1990,
> is a brainwashed religious maniac.
> 
> Do you think calling famous scientists "brainwashed religious maniacs"
> will make you look smart, Maciej?
> 
> 😂

I don't think that Maciej want to look smart. This is definitely a goal he 
couldn't reach.

As a matter of fact I asked him numerous times what his goals are. I got 
no answers.

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#665916

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-11 07:10 +0200
Message-ID<1864224164ccdbf0$9837649$2360894$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#665912
On 9/10/2025 10:38 PM, Python wrote:
> Le 10/09/2025 à 22:07, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>> Den 10.09.2025 06:45, skrev Maciej Woźniak:
>>> On 9/9/2025 10:53 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Experimental evidence trumps your opinion.
>>>>
>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/Pound&Snider.pdf
>>>> https://paulba.no/pdf/PoundRebka.pdf
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It's not any experimental evidence, it's
>>> just some assertions of a bunch of brainwashed
>>> religious maniacs, unfortunately.
>>>
>>
>>
>> According to Maciej Woźniak, Professor Robert Vivian Pound,
>> receiver of the National Medal of Science in 1990,
>> is a brainwashed religious maniac.
>>
>> Do you think calling famous scientists "brainwashed religious maniacs"
>> will make you look smart, Maciej?
>>
>> 😂
> 
> I don't think that Maciej want to look smart. This is definitely a goal 
> he couldn't reach.
> 
> As a matter of fact I asked him numerous times what his goals are. I got 
> no answers.
> 

And I've got no answer to - a or b.

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#665915

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-09-11 07:09 +0200
Message-ID<18642233df3b118e$9837648$2360894$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#665910
On 9/10/2025 10:09 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 10.09.2025 06:45, skrev Maciej Woźniak:
>> On 9/9/2025 10:53 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Experimental evidence trumps your opinion.
>>>
>>> https://paulba.no/paper/Pound&Snider.pdf
>>> https://paulba.no/pdf/PoundRebka.pdf
> 
> 
>>
>> It's not any experimental evidence, it's
>> just some assertions of a bunch of brainwashed
>> religious maniacs, unfortunately.
>>
> 
> 
> According to Maciej Woźniak, Professor Robert Vivian Pound,
> receiver of the National Medal of Science in 1990,
> is a brainwashed religious maniac.

Yes, he was. Just like you. Sorry, trash.
Any experiments falsyfying my hypothesis,
Paul?

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#665932

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2025-09-11 19:16 +0200
Message-ID<gsDwQ.36238$gKi6.8087@fx13.ams4>
In reply to#665915
Den 11.09.2025 07:09, skrev Maciej Woźniak:
> On 9/10/2025 10:09 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>
>> According to Maciej Woźniak, Professor Robert Vivian Pound,
>> receiver of the National Medal of Science in 1990,
>> is a brainwashed religious maniac.
> 
> Yes, he was. Just like you. Sorry, trash.
> Any experiments falsyfying my hypothesis,
> Paul?
> 

These  papers falsify your hypothesis that
Robert Vivian Pound is a brainwashed religious maniac:

https://paulba.no/paper/Pound&Rebka.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Pound&Snider.pdf

You haven't read any paper by Pound, have you?
You know you wouldn't understand them, don't you?
And any paper you don't understand must be written by
a brainwashed religious maniac, right? :-D

>> Do you think calling famous scientists 
>> "brainwashed religious maniacs"
>> will make you look smart, Maciej?
>> 
>> :-D
>> 

No answer, Maciej?

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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