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| Started by | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) |
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| First post | 2025-06-19 12:15 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-06-29 04:42 +0000 |
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Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-19 12:15 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-19 21:01 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-06-20 08:01 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Patric Wojewódzki <jiid@oei.pl> - 2025-06-20 17:24 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-06-21 18:36 -0600
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-22 12:12 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-23 03:47 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-23 20:54 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-23 23:37 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-25 19:14 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-25 10:30 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-06-26 07:15 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-26 06:06 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-26 15:23 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Lon Mahankov <mklanh@amolmank.ru> - 2025-06-26 20:47 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 03:47 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 22:37 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 22:44 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 22:47 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 06:40 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 23:54 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 12:27 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:32 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 23:56 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-28 00:13 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-28 19:04 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 02:49 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-28 21:21 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 10:16 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-04 15:19 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:25 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-28 00:18 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 18:45 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 21:36 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 10:44 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:19 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-27 21:57 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Dekota Hamaev <te@etat.ru> - 2025-06-27 22:31 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 23:49 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-28 03:28 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-28 06:29 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 13:19 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 14:44 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-29 05:58 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 13:37 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-29 07:31 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-29 18:30 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Martino Krakowski <wwkoo@iiir.pl> - 2025-06-29 17:27 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 23:10 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-29 22:22 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 22:20 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-29 15:58 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-30 20:18 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-30 23:52 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-30 18:23 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-02 19:20 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-02 19:46 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-03 00:13 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-03 10:43 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-03 12:30 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-05 11:16 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Kerwin Baklanov <oanwan@waoanro.ru> - 2025-06-30 13:49 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 00:55 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 01:42 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-02 20:34 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-02 22:20 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-30 18:31 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 02:27 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-30 20:39 -0700
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 14:47 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-29 06:01 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 04:20 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 04:18 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-29 14:41 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-02 23:57 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-04 08:22 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-04 21:51 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Truman Agamov <rruaau@ar.ru> - 2025-07-04 22:00 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-05 09:44 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-07-05 09:32 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-08 09:30 +0200
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-07-10 23:32 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-03 14:06 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-06-24 10:48 +1000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-24 01:41 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-24 06:20 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-06-24 08:51 +0100
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-24 08:41 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-06-24 11:26 +0100
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-24 10:43 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Krishna Abdulaev <la@vadalibh.ru> - 2025-06-24 17:55 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-25 00:22 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Reed Kawashima <ahhsa@kasir.jp> - 2025-06-25 13:28 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 23:46 +0000
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2025-06-29 12:26 +0800
Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 04:42 +0000
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-26 23:54 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <103lf74$ho8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #664592 |
On 6/26/2025 11:40 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, >>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying >>>>>> naturally. >>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, >>>>>> radiation, >>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>> >>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >>>>> to Helium. >>>>> >>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>> bombs >>>>>> on Earth. >>>>> >>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>> >>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>> happens. >>>> >>>> :-D >>>>> >>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>> >>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>> >>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the reaction. >>> Or ICF or something. >>> >>> [...] >> >> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof hydrogen. >> Stored...Ready for reaction. > > Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy particles as > well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission with > snapping of the electron bond holding them together. Can tanks of hydrogen isotopes contained in metal hydride be released all at once and cause high dense pressure in a chamber to help make a fission/fusion reaction more, vibrant, so to speak? > > Arindam has shown how to get energy from deuterium in controlled style > in his links. Very likely so called fusion approaches these days are > based upon deuterium fission. > > Once Einstein and Helmholtz are thrown out there is joy for future > generations. > > Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof woof > > Bertietaylor > > --
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-06-27 12:27 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <b5a7284ba53040f444991c7d48c2a8c7@www.novabbs.org> |
| In reply to | #664593 |
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 6:54:28 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 6/26/2025 11:40 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >>> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, >>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying >>>>>>> naturally. >>>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, >>>>>>> radiation, >>>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>>> >>>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >>>>>> to Helium. >>>>>> >>>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>> bombs >>>>>>> on Earth. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>>> >>>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>>> happens. >>>>> >>>>> :-D >>>>>> >>>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>>> >>>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >>>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>>> >>>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the reaction. >>>> Or ICF or something. >>>> >>>> [...] >>> >>> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof hydrogen. >>> Stored...Ready for reaction. >> >> Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy particles as >> well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission with >> snapping of the electron bond holding them together. Arindam's idea is to create a flow of deuterium ions and hammer them with X rays and very high speed electrons. Some of these ions will bust and create heat on a controlled basis. WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof Bertietaylor > > Can tanks of hydrogen isotopes contained in metal hydride be released > all at once and cause high dense pressure in a chamber to help make a > fission/fusion reaction more, vibrant, so to speak? > > >> >> Arindam has shown how to get energy from deuterium in controlled style >> in his links. Very likely so called fusion approaches these days are >> based upon deuterium fission. >> >> Once Einstein and Helmholtz are thrown out there is joy for future >> generations. >> >> Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof woof >> >> Bertietaylor >> >> -- --
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| From | Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> |
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| Date | 2025-06-27 06:32 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <o3j2jl-r9qp.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> |
| In reply to | #664599 |
In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 6:54:28 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 6/26/2025 11:40 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, >>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying >>>>>>>> naturally. >>>>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, >>>>>>>> radiation, >>>>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >>>>>>> to Helium. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>>> bombs >>>>>>>> on Earth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>>>> happens. >>>>>> >>>>>> :-D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>>>> >>>>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >>>>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>>>> >>>>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the reaction. >>>>> Or ICF or something. >>>>> >>>>> [...] >>>> >>>> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof hydrogen. >>>> Stored...Ready for reaction. >>> >>> Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy particles as >>> well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission with >>> snapping of the electron bond holding them together. > > Arindam's idea is to create a flow of deuterium ions and hammer them > with X rays and very high speed electrons. Some of these ions will bust > and create heat on a controlled basis. As deuterium has 1 proton and 1 neutron, if you "bust" it apart you get a free neutron and an ordinary hydrogen ion. <snip remaining idiocy> -- penninojim@yahoo.com
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-26 23:56 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <103lfbp$ho8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #664592 |
On 6/26/2025 11:40 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, >>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying >>>>>> naturally. >>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, >>>>>> radiation, >>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>> >>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >>>>> to Helium. >>>>> >>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>> bombs >>>>>> on Earth. >>>>> >>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>> >>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>> happens. >>>> >>>> :-D >>>>> >>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>> >>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>> >>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the reaction. >>> Or ICF or something. >>> >>> [...] >> >> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof hydrogen. >> Stored...Ready for reaction. > > Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy particles as > well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission with > snapping of the electron bond holding them together. > > Arindam has shown how to get energy from deuterium in controlled style > in his links. Very likely so called fusion approaches these days are > based upon deuterium fission. > > Once Einstein and Helmholtz are thrown out there is joy for future > generations. > > Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof woof > > Bertietaylor > > -- Or a tank with a metal hydride in it holding say, stable hydrogen. Apply a little heat to it and it will release hydrogen? So, how stable would the tank be? Can we cut into it without it exploding?
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-06-28 00:13 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <e44168a5eb89ad2ebb1a8c662703a5cc@www.novabbs.org> |
| In reply to | #664594 |
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 6:56:57 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 6/26/2025 11:40 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >>> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, >>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying >>>>>>> naturally. >>>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, >>>>>>> radiation, >>>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>>> >>>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >>>>>> to Helium. >>>>>> >>>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>> bombs >>>>>>> on Earth. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>>> >>>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>>> happens. >>>>> >>>>> :-D >>>>>> >>>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>>> >>>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >>>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>>> >>>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the reaction. >>>> Or ICF or something. >>>> >>>> [...] >>> >>> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof hydrogen. >>> Stored...Ready for reaction. >> >> Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy particles as >> well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission with >> snapping of the electron bond holding them together. >> >> Arindam has shown how to get energy from deuterium in controlled style >> in his links. Very likely so called fusion approaches these days are >> based upon deuterium fission. >> >> Once Einstein and Helmholtz are thrown out there is joy for future >> generations. >> >> Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof woof >> >> Bertietaylor >> >> -- > > Or a tank with a metal hydride in it holding say, stable hydrogen. Apply > a little heat to it and it will release hydrogen? So, how stable would > the tank be? Can we cut into it without it exploding? It should be stable if there was only hydrogen around. Anyway how is this relevant to dark matter? WOOF woof-woof woof Bertietaylor --
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-28 19:04 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <103q70a$168i1$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #664619 |
On 6/27/2025 5:13 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 6:56:57 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 6/26/2025 11:40 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, >>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying >>>>>>>> naturally. >>>>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, >>>>>>>> radiation, >>>>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are >>>>>>> fused >>>>>>> to Helium. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>>> bombs >>>>>>>> on Earth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>>>> happens. >>>>>> >>>>>> :-D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>>>> >>>>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >>>>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>>>> >>>>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the >>>>> reaction. >>>>> Or ICF or something. >>>>> >>>>> [...] >>>> >>>> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof hydrogen. >>>> Stored...Ready for reaction. >>> >>> Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy particles as >>> well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission with >>> snapping of the electron bond holding them together. >>> >>> Arindam has shown how to get energy from deuterium in controlled style >>> in his links. Very likely so called fusion approaches these days are >>> based upon deuterium fission. >>> >>> Once Einstein and Helmholtz are thrown out there is joy for future >>> generations. >>> >>> Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof woof >>> >>> Bertietaylor >>> >>> -- >> >> Or a tank with a metal hydride in it holding say, stable hydrogen. Apply >> a little heat to it and it will release hydrogen? So, how stable would >> the tank be? Can we cut into it without it exploding? > > It should be stable if there was only hydrogen around. Anyway how is > this relevant to dark matter? Not sure. Sorry about that. Humm... Perhaps dark matter can be the underlying field scaffold? For instance in this n-ary volumetric of mine: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1441526523673008&set=pcb.1441526963672964 ?
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-06-29 02:49 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <bc42d622467429fccdb3de5632c01cd6@www.novabbs.org> |
| In reply to | #664661 |
On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 2:04:58 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 6/27/2025 5:13 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 6:56:57 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >>> On 6/26/2025 11:40 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, >>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying >>>>>>>>> naturally. >>>>>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, >>>>>>>>> radiation, >>>>>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are >>>>>>>> fused >>>>>>>> to Helium. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>>>> bombs >>>>>>>>> on Earth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>>>>> happens. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> :-D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >>>>>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>>>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the >>>>>> reaction. >>>>>> Or ICF or something. >>>>>> >>>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof hydrogen. >>>>> Stored...Ready for reaction. >>>> >>>> Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy particles as >>>> well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission with >>>> snapping of the electron bond holding them together. >>>> >>>> Arindam has shown how to get energy from deuterium in controlled style >>>> in his links. Very likely so called fusion approaches these days are >>>> based upon deuterium fission. >>>> >>>> Once Einstein and Helmholtz are thrown out there is joy for future >>>> generations. >>>> >>>> Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof woof >>>> >>>> Bertietaylor >>>> >>>> -- >>> >>> Or a tank with a metal hydride in it holding say, stable hydrogen. Apply >>> a little heat to it and it will release hydrogen? So, how stable would >>> the tank be? Can we cut into it without it exploding? >> >> It should be stable if there was only hydrogen around. Anyway how is >> this relevant to dark matter? > > Not sure. Sorry about that. Humm... Perhaps dark matter can be the > underlying field scaffold? What is that? Are you going to hang or behead fields!? :) Anyway what is wrong in saying all stars are like Earth's with hydrogen and helium atmosphere? WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof Bertietaylor > > For instance in this n-ary volumetric of mine: > > https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1441526523673008&set=pcb.1441526963672964 > > ? --
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-28 21:21 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <103qf07$1b9op$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #664662 |
On 6/28/2025 7:49 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 2:04:58 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 6/27/2025 5:13 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 6:56:57 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/26/2025 11:40 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and >>>>>>>>>>> thus >>>>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying >>>>>>>>>> naturally. >>>>>>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, >>>>>>>>>> radiation, >>>>>>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are >>>>>>>>> fused >>>>>>>>> to Helium. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the >>>>>>>>>> hydrogen >>>>>>>>>> bombs >>>>>>>>>> on Earth. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>>>>>> happens. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :-D >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two >>>>>>>> protons >>>>>>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>>>>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the >>>>>>> reaction. >>>>>>> Or ICF or something. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>>> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof >>>>>> hydrogen. >>>>>> Stored...Ready for reaction. >>>>> >>>>> Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy >>>>> particles as >>>>> well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission >>>>> with >>>>> snapping of the electron bond holding them together. >>>>> >>>>> Arindam has shown how to get energy from deuterium in controlled style >>>>> in his links. Very likely so called fusion approaches these days are >>>>> based upon deuterium fission. >>>>> >>>>> Once Einstein and Helmholtz are thrown out there is joy for future >>>>> generations. >>>>> >>>>> Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof woof >>>>> >>>>> Bertietaylor >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> Or a tank with a metal hydride in it holding say, stable hydrogen. >>>> Apply >>>> a little heat to it and it will release hydrogen? So, how stable would >>>> the tank be? Can we cut into it without it exploding? >>> >>> It should be stable if there was only hydrogen around. Anyway how is >>> this relevant to dark matter? >> >> Not sure. Sorry about that. Humm... Perhaps dark matter can be the >> underlying field scaffold? > > What is that? Are you going to hang or behead fields!? :) ;^) Fields are fun. Especially my experimental one. Its as if each field line is a potential path for a photon to travel on. They can get rather odd: From a volume of mine: https://i.ibb.co/39DMrYp4/image.png > > Anyway what is wrong in saying all stars are like Earth's with hydrogen > and helium atmosphere? > > WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof > > Bertietaylor >> >> For instance in this n-ary volumetric of mine: >> >> https://www.facebook.com/photo/? >> fbid=1441526523673008&set=pcb.1441526963672964 >> >> ? > > --
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-06-29 10:16 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <d8f9baa5184e5f1d13f5dc0727096c52@www.novabbs.org> |
| In reply to | #664669 |
On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 4:21:28 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 6/28/2025 7:49 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 2:04:58 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >>> On 6/27/2025 5:13 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 6:56:57 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6/26/2025 11:40 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and >>>>>>>>>>>> thus >>>>>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying >>>>>>>>>>> naturally. >>>>>>>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, >>>>>>>>>>> radiation, >>>>>>>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are >>>>>>>>>> fused >>>>>>>>>> to Helium. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the >>>>>>>>>>> hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>> bombs >>>>>>>>>>> on Earth. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>>>>>>> happens. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> :-D >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two >>>>>>>>> protons >>>>>>>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>>>>>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the >>>>>>>> reaction. >>>>>>>> Or ICF or something. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof >>>>>>> hydrogen. >>>>>>> Stored...Ready for reaction. >>>>>> >>>>>> Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy >>>>>> particles as >>>>>> well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission >>>>>> with >>>>>> snapping of the electron bond holding them together. >>>>>> >>>>>> Arindam has shown how to get energy from deuterium in controlled style >>>>>> in his links. Very likely so called fusion approaches these days are >>>>>> based upon deuterium fission. >>>>>> >>>>>> Once Einstein and Helmholtz are thrown out there is joy for future >>>>>> generations. >>>>>> >>>>>> Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof woof >>>>>> >>>>>> Bertietaylor >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Or a tank with a metal hydride in it holding say, stable hydrogen. >>>>> Apply >>>>> a little heat to it and it will release hydrogen? So, how stable would >>>>> the tank be? Can we cut into it without it exploding? >>>> >>>> It should be stable if there was only hydrogen around. Anyway how is >>>> this relevant to dark matter? >>> >>> Not sure. Sorry about that. Humm... Perhaps dark matter can be the >>> underlying field scaffold? >> >> What is that? Are you going to hang or behead fields!? :) > > ;^) > > Fields are fun. Especially my experimental one. Its as if each field > line is a potential path for a photon to travel on. They can get rather > odd: Works when both field and photon strengths act on inverse square law. Thus the field lines and photon splits are infinite. Photon needs aether to exist. WOOF woof-woof woof > > From a volume of mine: > > https://i.ibb.co/39DMrYp4/image.png > >> >> Anyway what is wrong in saying all stars are like Earth's with hydrogen >> and helium atmosphere? >> >> WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof >> >> Bertietaylor >>> >>> For instance in this n-ary volumetric of mine: >>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/photo/? >>> fbid=1441526523673008&set=pcb.1441526963672964 >>> >>> ? >> >> -- --
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-04 15:19 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <1049k24$11qlt$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #664679 |
On 6/29/2025 3:16 AM, Bertitaylor wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 4:21:28 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 6/28/2025 7:49 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 2:04:58 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/27/2025 5:13 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 6:56:57 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/26/2025 11:40 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> thus >>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying >>>>>>>>>>>> naturally. >>>>>>>>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, >>>>>>>>>>>> radiation, >>>>>>>>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are >>>>>>>>>>> fused >>>>>>>>>>> to Helium. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the >>>>>>>>>>>> hydrogen >>>>>>>>>>>> bombs >>>>>>>>>>>> on Earth. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>>>>>>>> happens. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> :-D >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two >>>>>>>>>> protons >>>>>>>>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>>>>>>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the >>>>>>>>> reaction. >>>>>>>>> Or ICF or something. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof >>>>>>>> hydrogen. >>>>>>>> Stored...Ready for reaction. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy >>>>>>> particles as >>>>>>> well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> snapping of the electron bond holding them together. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arindam has shown how to get energy from deuterium in controlled >>>>>>> style >>>>>>> in his links. Very likely so called fusion approaches these days are >>>>>>> based upon deuterium fission. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once Einstein and Helmholtz are thrown out there is joy for future >>>>>>> generations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof woof >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bertietaylor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Or a tank with a metal hydride in it holding say, stable hydrogen. >>>>>> Apply >>>>>> a little heat to it and it will release hydrogen? So, how stable >>>>>> would >>>>>> the tank be? Can we cut into it without it exploding? >>>>> >>>>> It should be stable if there was only hydrogen around. Anyway how is >>>>> this relevant to dark matter? >>>> >>>> Not sure. Sorry about that. Humm... Perhaps dark matter can be the >>>> underlying field scaffold? >>> >>> What is that? Are you going to hang or behead fields!? :) >> >> ;^) >> >> Fields are fun. Especially my experimental one. Its as if each field >> line is a potential path for a photon to travel on. They can get rather >> odd: > > Works when both field and photon strengths act on inverse square law. > Thus the field lines and photon splits are infinite. Photon needs aether > to exist. A field as a continuous entity that has infinite paths, or field lines, for a photon to ride along. The gravitational field makes these up in space, due the warping of space. Call it aether, or whatever. This fabric can be warped? Field lines are actually a decent way to help "visualize" the flow of the field. Then we can get into volumetrics. A photons path can be bent around things along its journey through space. If you take it as a fluid, then think of an eddy in a river. spiraling around. Or the way smoke acts in a room. It can create its own spirals, and dynamics. Just shooting the breeze here, try not to flame to to bad. :^) aether, fluid, I don't know. It sure seems to be an infinite continuous entity. The space itself, and how its warped and dynamic. Anyway, sorry.
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| From | Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> |
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| Date | 2025-06-27 06:25 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <gni2jl-r9qp.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> |
| In reply to | #664592 |
In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then >>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally. >>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation, >>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>> >>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >>>>> to Helium. >>>>> >>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>> bombs >>>>>> on Earth. >>>>> >>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>> >>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>> happens. >>>> >>>> :-D >>>>> >>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>> >>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>> >>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the reaction. >>> Or ICF or something. >>> >>> [...] >> >> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof hydrogen. >> Stored...Ready for reaction. > > Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy particles as > well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission with > snapping of the electron bond holding them together. Deuterium has one proton and one neutron. If there were two protons it would be helium. <snip remaining nonsense> -- penninojim@yahoo.com
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-06-28 00:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <94f1c5d18beb4b27798684b155bb1864@www.novabbs.org> |
| In reply to | #664602 |
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:25:38 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: > In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >>> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then >>>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally. >>>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation, >>>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>>> >>>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >>>>>> to Helium. >>>>>> >>>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>> bombs >>>>>>> on Earth. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>>> >>>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>>> happens. >>>>> >>>>> :-D >>>>>> >>>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>>> >>>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >>>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>>> >>>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the reaction. >>>> Or ICF or something. >>>> >>>> [...] >>> >>> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof hydrogen. >>> Stored...Ready for reaction. >> >> Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy particles as >> well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission with >> snapping of the electron bond holding them together. > > Deuterium has one proton and one neutron. If there were two protons it > would be helium. A neutron is the tightest bond between a proton and an electron. The net charge is consequently zero but their characteristics remain same on an individual basis. And as explained by Arindam, cause the electrostatic effect known as gravity. WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof Bertietaylor > > <snip remaining nonsense> --
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| From | Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> |
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| Date | 2025-06-27 18:45 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <62u3jl-el7s.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> |
| In reply to | #664620 |
In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:25:38 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: > >> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 5:47:10 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/26/2025 10:37 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>> On 6/26/2025 8:47 PM, Bertitaylor wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then >>>>>>>>>>>> bang >>>>>>>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally. >>>>>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation, >>>>>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >>>>>>> to Helium. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen >>>>>>>> bombs >>>>>>>> on Earth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>>>>> happens. >>>>>> >>>>>> :-D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>>>>> >>>>>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >>>>>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>>>>> energies as produced by the stars. >>>>> >>>>> Fusion for stars? fission to to kick artificially kick of the reaction. >>>>> Or ICF or something. >>>>> >>>>> [...] >>>> >>>> several tanks with a metal hydride for different isotopes eof hydrogen. >>>> Stored...Ready for reaction. >>> >>> Won't work, you need lotsa intense gamma rays, high energy particles as >>> well to disturb the two protons in the deuterium nucleus to fission with >>> snapping of the electron bond holding them together. >> >> Deuterium has one proton and one neutron. If there were two protons it >> would be helium. > > A neutron is the tightest bond between a proton and an electron. The net > charge is consequently zero but their characteristics remain same on an > individual basis. And as explained by Arindam, cause the electrostatic > effect known as gravity. Crackpot gibberish Arindam. > > WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof > > Bertietaylor -- penninojim@yahoo.com
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| From | "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2025-06-28 21:36 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <tuX7Q.175590$v0S.21908@fx14.ams4> |
| In reply to | #664620 |
Den 28.06.2025 02:18, skrev Bertitaylor: > > A neutron is the tightest bond between a proton and an electron. Can you please explain this statement? How does the "bond between a proton and an electron" change if you remove the neutron? Or: What is the difference in the bond between proton and electron in H and T? -- Paul https://paulba.no/
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-07-01 10:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <6f4c71de9dc2317db1d2fad7782b31c2@www.novabbs.org> |
| In reply to | #664649 |
On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 19:36:02 +0000, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > Den 28.06.2025 02:18, skrev Bertitaylor: >> >> A neutron is the tightest bond between a proton and an electron. > > Can you please explain this statement? Why make it sound difficult? > > How does the "bond between a proton and an electron" > change if you remove the neutron? A neutron is a close bond of proton and electron. Is that too difficult to understand? We are not talking about removing the neutron. We are talking of replacing it with a proton-electron pair. > > Or: > What is the difference in the bond between proton and electron > in H and T? In H atom there is one electron orbiting the electron. What is T? If it is tritium and assuming there is such a thing them it has a nucleus of 3 protons held together by 2 electrons. Deuterium is 2 protons held together by 1 electron. WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof Bertietaylor --
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| From | Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> |
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| Date | 2025-06-27 06:19 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <qbi2jl-r9qp.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> |
| In reply to | #664578 |
In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > >> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>> >>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Den 23.06.2025 05:47, skrev bertietaylor: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When Arindam says that the core of any star must be very cold, then >>>>>>> bang >>>>>>> phut goes the above precious E=mcc theory. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>> >>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>> >>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>> >> >>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus cannot >>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>> >>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally. >>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation, >>> charged particles, very dense there. >> >> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >> to Helium. >> >>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen bombs >>> on Earth. >> >> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! > > Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all > happens. > > :-D >> >> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. > > Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons > held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great > energies as produced by the stars. Nope. Deuterium is stable, not fissile and is in fact used in reactors to inhibit fission. The deuterium nucleus (2H) contains one proton and one neutron, whereas the far more common hydrogen (1H) contains no neutrons. <snip remaining nonsense> -- penninojim@yahoo.com
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| From | "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2025-06-27 21:57 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <103mt33$bcvg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #664578 |
Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor:
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>
>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor:
>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:
>>>
>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from?
>>>>>
>>>>> Deuterium fission.
>>>>
>>
>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus
>>>> cannot
>>>> undergo fission, crackpot.
>>>
>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally.
>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation,
>>> charged particles, very dense there.
>>
>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused
>> to Helium.
>>
>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen bombs
>>> on Earth.
>>
>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder!
>
> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all
> happens.
>
One question:
What created the elements you and I and everything around us consist of?
The Devine Arindam?
>>
>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb.
>
> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons
> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great
> energies as produced by the stars.
A nucleus consisting of two protons and one electron? :-D
But let's consider this a typo.
Deuterium (D) is an isotope of hydrogen.
It has an extra neutron in its nucleus. D is stable and never decays.
But let's play along:
Fission of D can only mean that a neutron is ejected from the nucleus.
So the question is:
Why should this create an extraordinary great energy?
Let's first look at fission of a heavier element, namely Uranium-235.
When a Uranium-235 nucleus is hit by a neutron, it may split
into a Barium-141 nucleus and a Krypton-92 nucleus and three neutrons.
So why do this fission create an extraordinary great energy?
It's actually very simple.
The Ba-141 nucleus contains 56 protons and 85 neutrons
The Kr-92 nucleus contains 36 protons and 56 neutrons
The electrostatic repulsion between the nuclei is very strong,
and in 1939 Lise Meitner calculated that the nuclei will repel
each other and should gain a total kinetic energy in the order
of 200 MeV. The rest is history.
Lise Meitner was the mother of the atomic bomb.
The proton and the neutron in D do not repel each other,
so no energy is released if you somehow could split the nucleus.
Quite the contrary, you would have to use energy to split it.
Your "Deuterium fission" is idiotic nonsense.
--------------------------------------------
BTW, this reaction also confirms E = mc²
1n + U-235 → Ba-141 + Kr-92 + 3n
The atomic weight of these are:
Left side:
1n 1.008664 u
U-235 235.0439299 u
-------------------
236.0525939 u
Right side:
Ba-141 140.914412 u
Kr-92 91.926156 u
3n 3.025992 u
---------------------
235.866560 u
Lost mass: m = 0.1860339 u
"u" is "unified atomic mass unit", 1 u = 931.5 MeV
E = mc² ≈ 174 MeV
Which is of the same order of magnitude as calculated
by Meitner.
> Details in Arindam's links.
Quite. I had a look.
Arindam:
"The hydrogen bomb is said to be an atomic bomb using heavy water,
that contain the deuterium isotope. A deuterium isotope has an
additional neutron in its nucleus. It is thought that the enormous
temperature generated by the fission bomb, cause the deuterium isotopes
to join and become helium nuclei. And it is this fusion process, that
generates so much more energy than even the atom bomb."
So Arindam knows how the hydrogen bomb is "said" to work,
but he has his own story, of course:
Arindam:
"So could it be that there is actually no process like fusion
ever taking place – that fusion is a wrong explanation?
The extraordinary energy of the Hydrogen Bomb could arise with
the heavy water being used as a amplifier of the fission bomb.
The N value, then, effectively goes up! What may be likely is that
the deuterium nuclei in the heavy water - a necessary component of
the hydrogen bomb as it is supposed to fuse into helium - when
bombarded by the exploding fission components of the atom bomb that
has to be exploded first to create the high temperatures need for
fusion, take up very high speeds and thus act like an extension of
the fissionable components. In other words, they effectively add up
upon, or amplify upon as a catalyst, the radioactive material already
present in the bomb."
I can't see that he mention fission of deuterium.
But I can see that he states:
"there is actually no process like fusion"
And I can see that he states:
"the atom bomb that has to be exploded first to create
the high temperatures need for fusion"
And I can see that he doesn't make any sense at all.
Can you explain how the hydrogen bomb works, Bertitaylor?
--
Paul
https://paulba.no/
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| From | Dekota Hamaev <te@etat.ru> |
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| Date | 2025-06-27 22:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <103n64a$df8h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #664609 |
Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor: >> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >> energies as produced by the stars. > > But let's play along: > > The electrostatic repulsion between the nuclei is very strong, > and in 1939 Lise Meitner calculated that the nuclei will repel each > other and should gain a total kinetic energy in the order of 200 MeV. > The rest is history. > Lise Meitner was the mother of the atomic bomb. untrue, she's clearly a jew stealing patents from an white man. > Your "Deuterium fission" is idiotic nonsense. > > BTW, this reaction also confirms E = mc² > > 1n + U-235 → Ba-141 + Kr-92 + 3n > "u" is "unified atomic mass unit", 1 u = 931.5 MeV > E = mc² ≈ 174 MeV > > Which is of the same order of magnitude as calculated by Meitner. wrong again, that's arithmetic, not calculation.
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-06-27 23:49 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
| Message-ID | <4db6908bd23e49b82ae1085188e74c00@www.novabbs.org> |
| In reply to | #664609 |
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor: >> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >> >>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>> >>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>> >>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>> >>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>> >>> >>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>> cannot >>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>> >>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally. >>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation, >>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>> >>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >>> to Helium. >>> >>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen bombs >>>> on Earth. >>> >>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >> >> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >> happens. >> > > One question: > What created the elements you and I and everything around us consist of? > The Devine Arindam? Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be. Get rid of all creation myths and big bang nonsense. WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof Bertietaylor > > >>> >>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >> >> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >> energies as produced by the stars. > > A nucleus consisting of two protons and one electron? :-D > > But let's consider this a typo. > Deuterium (D) is an isotope of hydrogen. > It has an extra neutron in its nucleus. D is stable and never decays. > > But let's play along: > > Fission of D can only mean that a neutron is ejected from the nucleus. > So the question is: > Why should this create an extraordinary great energy? > > > Let's first look at fission of a heavier element, namely Uranium-235. > When a Uranium-235 nucleus is hit by a neutron, it may split > into a Barium-141 nucleus and a Krypton-92 nucleus and three neutrons. > > So why do this fission create an extraordinary great energy? > It's actually very simple. > The Ba-141 nucleus contains 56 protons and 85 neutrons > The Kr-92 nucleus contains 36 protons and 56 neutrons > > The electrostatic repulsion between the nuclei is very strong, > and in 1939 Lise Meitner calculated that the nuclei will repel > each other and should gain a total kinetic energy in the order > of 200 MeV. The rest is history. > Lise Meitner was the mother of the atomic bomb. > > The proton and the neutron in D do not repel each other, > so no energy is released if you somehow could split the nucleus. > Quite the contrary, you would have to use energy to split it. > > Your "Deuterium fission" is idiotic nonsense. > > -------------------------------------------- > > BTW, this reaction also confirms E = mc² > > 1n + U-235 → Ba-141 + Kr-92 + 3n > > The atomic weight of these are: > > Left side: > 1n 1.008664 u > U-235 235.0439299 u > ------------------- > 236.0525939 u > > Right side: > Ba-141 140.914412 u > Kr-92 91.926156 u > 3n 3.025992 u > --------------------- > 235.866560 u > > Lost mass: m = 0.1860339 u > > "u" is "unified atomic mass unit", 1 u = 931.5 MeV > > E = mc² ≈ 174 MeV > > Which is of the same order of magnitude as calculated > by Meitner. > > >> Details in Arindam's links. > > Quite. I had a look. > > Arindam: > "The hydrogen bomb is said to be an atomic bomb using heavy water, > that contain the deuterium isotope. A deuterium isotope has an > additional neutron in its nucleus. It is thought that the enormous > temperature generated by the fission bomb, cause the deuterium > isotopes > to join and become helium nuclei. And it is this fusion process, that > generates so much more energy than even the atom bomb." > > So Arindam knows how the hydrogen bomb is "said" to work, > but he has his own story, of course: > > Arindam: > "So could it be that there is actually no process like fusion > ever taking place – that fusion is a wrong explanation? > The extraordinary energy of the Hydrogen Bomb could arise with > the heavy water being used as a amplifier of the fission bomb. > The N value, then, effectively goes up! What may be likely is that > the deuterium nuclei in the heavy water - a necessary component of > the hydrogen bomb as it is supposed to fuse into helium - when > bombarded by the exploding fission components of the atom bomb that > has to be exploded first to create the high temperatures need for > fusion, take up very high speeds and thus act like an extension of > the fissionable components. In other words, they effectively add up > upon, or amplify upon as a catalyst, the radioactive material already > present in the bomb." > > I can't see that he mention fission of deuterium. > > But I can see that he states: > "there is actually no process like fusion" > > And I can see that he states: > "the atom bomb that has to be exploded first to create > the high temperatures need for fusion" > > And I can see that he doesn't make any sense at all. > > Can you explain how the hydrogen bomb works, Bertitaylor? > --
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| From | clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) |
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| Date | 2025-06-28 03:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) |
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 23:49:07 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > >> Den 27.06.2025 05:47, skrev Bertitaylor: >>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:23:35 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>> >>>> Den 26.06.2025 09:15, skrev bertitaylor: >>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:30:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:54:15 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you please explain Arindam's theory? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Where does the radiated energy come from? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Deuterium fission. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Deuterium is stable, does not undergo radioactive decay, and thus >>>>>> cannot >>>>>> undergo fission, crackpot. >>>>> >>>>> Fool, we are not talking about deuterium on Earth, decaying naturally. >>>>> Things are different in the Sun's atmosphere. Lots of heat, radiation, >>>>> charged particles, very dense there. >>>> >>>> And no deuterium is decaying, but a lot of deuterium nuclei are fused >>>> to Helium. >>>> >>>>> It is deuterium fission which provides the energy for the hydrogen bombs >>>>> on Earth. >>>> >>>> Good grief, what a gigantic blunder! >>> >>> Yes it was the most gigantic blunder to think that fusion at all >>> happens. >>> >> >> One question: >> What created the elements you and I and everything around us consist of? >> The Devine Arindam? > > Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be. > > Get rid of all creation myths and big bang nonsense. > > WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof > > Bertietaylor >> >> >>>> >>>> It obviously is _fusion_ of H and T in a hydrogen bomb. >>> >>> Very not obviously. The fission of the deuterium nucleus (two protons >>> held by one electron) creates extraordinary force creating great >>> energies as produced by the stars. >> >> A nucleus consisting of two protons and one electron? :-D >> >> But let's consider this a typo. >> Deuterium (D) is an isotope of hydrogen. >> It has an extra neutron in its nucleus. D is stable and never decays. >> >> But let's play along: >> >> Fission of D can only mean that a neutron is ejected from the nucleus. >> So the question is: >> Why should this create an extraordinary great energy? >> >> >> Let's first look at fission of a heavier element, namely Uranium-235. >> When a Uranium-235 nucleus is hit by a neutron, it may split >> into a Barium-141 nucleus and a Krypton-92 nucleus and three neutrons. >> >> So why do this fission create an extraordinary great energy? >> It's actually very simple. >> The Ba-141 nucleus contains 56 protons and 85 neutrons >> The Kr-92 nucleus contains 36 protons and 56 neutrons >> >> The electrostatic repulsion between the nuclei is very strong, >> and in 1939 Lise Meitner calculated that the nuclei will repel >> each other and should gain a total kinetic energy in the order >> of 200 MeV. The rest is history. >> Lise Meitner was the mother of the atomic bomb. >> >> The proton and the neutron in D do not repel each other, >> so no energy is released if you somehow could split the nucleus. >> Quite the contrary, you would have to use energy to split it. >> >> Your "Deuterium fission" is idiotic nonsense. >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> >> BTW, this reaction also confirms E = mc² >> >> 1n + U-235 → Ba-141 + Kr-92 + 3n >> >> The atomic weight of these are: >> >> Left side: >> 1n 1.008664 u >> U-235 235.0439299 u >> ------------------- >> 236.0525939 u >> >> Right side: >> Ba-141 140.914412 u >> Kr-92 91.926156 u >> 3n 3.025992 u >> --------------------- >> 235.866560 u >> >> Lost mass: m = 0.1860339 u >> >> "u" is "unified atomic mass unit", 1 u = 931.5 MeV >> >> E = mc² ≈ 174 MeV >> >> Which is of the same order of magnitude as calculated >> by Meitner. >> >> >>> Details in Arindam's links. >> >> Quite. I had a look. >> >> Arindam: >> "The hydrogen bomb is said to be an atomic bomb using heavy water, >> that contain the deuterium isotope. A deuterium isotope has an >> additional neutron in its nucleus. It is thought that the enormous >> temperature generated by the fission bomb, cause the deuterium >> isotopes >> to join and become helium nuclei. And it is this fusion process, that >> generates so much more energy than even the atom bomb." >> >> So Arindam knows how the hydrogen bomb is "said" to work, >> but he has his own story, of course: >> >> Arindam: >> "So could it be that there is actually no process like fusion >> ever taking place – that fusion is a wrong explanation? >> The extraordinary energy of the Hydrogen Bomb could arise with >> the heavy water being used as a amplifier of the fission bomb. >> The N value, then, effectively goes up! What may be likely is that >> the deuterium nuclei in the heavy water - a necessary component of >> the hydrogen bomb as it is supposed to fuse into helium - when >> bombarded by the exploding fission components of the atom bomb that >> has to be exploded first to create the high temperatures need for >> fusion, take up very high speeds and thus act like an extension of >> the fissionable components. In other words, they effectively add up >> upon, or amplify upon as a catalyst, the radioactive material already >> present in the bomb." >> >> I can't see that he mention fission of deuterium. >> >> But I can see that he states: >> "there is actually no process like fusion" >> >> And I can see that he states: >> "the atom bomb that has to be exploded first to create >> the high temperatures need for fusion" >> >> And I can see that he doesn't make any sense at all. >> >> Can you explain how the hydrogen bomb works, Bertitaylor? >> > > -- Well, yes the elements weren't created in a Big Bang obviously. Do you know it is believed that our galaxy has only spun around 60 times? Big Bangers have a very young and naive universe! The elements continue to form in the stars contrary to the Big Bang baloney.
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