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Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing?

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First post2025-04-03 22:03 -0700
Last post2025-04-11 09:58 +0000
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  Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-03 22:03 -0700
    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-04 05:24 +0000
      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-04 07:55 +0200
        Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-04 22:38 +0000
    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-04 10:46 -0700
      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 12:29 -0700
        Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 12:37 -0700
          Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 19:02 -0500
            Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 20:12 -0700
              Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 20:39 -0700
                Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 20:50 -0700
              Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 23:39 -0500
                Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 23:57 -0500
      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-04 14:15 -0700
        Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-04 15:19 -0700
          Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-10 22:58 -0700
            Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-13 12:17 -0700
              Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-14 01:13 -0700
                Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-19 23:50 -0700
        Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-05 11:17 -0700
          Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2025-04-09 13:00 +0000
            Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-09 13:10 +0000
            Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Dwaine Hajdú <edajay@njwnwindj.hu> - 2025-04-09 17:29 +0000
            Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-04-10 09:20 +0200
              Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2025-04-10 11:33 +0000
                Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Arius Babaskin Rui <bnk@aab.ru> - 2025-04-10 12:46 +0000
                  Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-11 07:19 +0200
                    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-04-11 19:52 +0200
                      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Douglas Laterza <ou@oodssaa.it> - 2025-04-11 18:04 +0000
                        Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-12 10:48 +0200
                          Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Bobbie Bakhvalov <ab@vibh.ru> - 2025-04-12 10:39 +0000
                            Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-13 09:11 +0200
                              Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 01:07 -0700
                                Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-14 05:58 +0200
                                  Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 21:54 -0700
                                  Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-14 09:31 +0200
                                    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-04-15 22:21 +0200
                              Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Edel Baburoff <obbeub@aerb.ru> - 2025-04-13 10:04 +0000
                          Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Corbin Yuan Xiong <nb@rya.cn> - 2025-04-12 10:52 +0000
                            Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 11:03 -0500
                          Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 08:38 -0700
                            Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 09:13 -0700
                          Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-04-12 22:37 +0200
                            Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-13 09:24 +0200
              Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 15:15 -0500
                Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-04-10 22:32 +0200
                  Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 14:06 -0700
                    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? x <x@x.org> - 2025-04-10 15:14 -0700
                      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-04-11 07:30 +0200
                        Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-14 01:12 +0000
                  Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 19:32 -0500
                    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-04-11 15:44 +0200
                      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 08:17 -0700
                        Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 08:53 -0700
                      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 11:56 -0500
    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 14:34 -0500
      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 12:39 -0700
        Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 14:45 -0500
          Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 13:02 -0700
      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 12:57 -0700
    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-09 15:21 +0100
      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 09:44 -0700
        Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? "shades@cov.net.inv" <seeu@nt.net> - 2025-04-11 20:16 +0100
          Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 07:35 -0700
            Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 11:59 -0700
              Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-14 01:08 +0000
                Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 20:39 -0500
                  Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 21:40 -0500
                    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-14 03:04 +0000
                      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 22:49 -0500
                        Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 23:08 -0500
                          Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 23:27 -0500
                            Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-14 04:53 +0000
                              Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 00:48 -0500
                                Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-14 06:29 +0000
                        Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-14 04:24 +0000
                  Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-14 02:52 +0000
                    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 23:45 -0500
                      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-20 12:05 +0000
      Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-11 06:27 +0200
    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-04-10 21:22 +0200
    Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 09:58 +0000

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#662563

Fromhitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Date2025-04-09 13:00 +0000
Message-ID<e196baed039a0b3096885dd026bc319a@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#662419
On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 18:17:24 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> I mean, I observe the Earth and it doesn't appear rational to me....
>
> doesn't that ...bother...you?
>
> Using rational means in a irrational world sounds STUPID to me.
>
> Luckly, only a small percentage of the people on earth are rational.
>
> There is NO scientific basis for a rational world...
>
> but there is a scientific basis for a irratio[nal*] world.

* Correcting Starfaker's dyslexia.

“Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we
suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.” -- J.B.S. Haldane

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#662564

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
Date2025-04-09 13:10 +0000
Message-ID<58e5e9ff5de114bd887490753fed7651@www.novabbs.org>
In reply to#662563
Poor devils simply cannot understand the implications of eternity and
infinity


Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

Bertietaylor

--

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#662571

FromDwaine Hajdú <edajay@njwnwindj.hu>
Date2025-04-09 17:29 +0000
Message-ID<vt6aqe$13r7b$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#662563
gharnagel wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 18:17:24 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:
>> There is NO scientific basis for a rational world...
>> but there is a scientific basis for a irratio[nal*] world.
> 
> * Correcting Starfaker's dyslexia.
> 
> “Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we
> suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.” -- J.B.S. Haldane

thank you my friend very much, making it obvious, that in the Einstine 
based relativity, they are not supposing what they can, but are just 
supposing. Very funny indeed. A lesson to be learned from here.

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#662593

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2025-04-10 09:20 +0200
Message-ID<1rakhfg.vqrsfd2xnf4mN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#662563
gharnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 18:17:24 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > I mean, I observe the Earth and it doesn't appear rational to me....
> >
> > doesn't that ...bother...you?
> >
> > Using rational means in a irrational world sounds STUPID to me.
> >
> > Luckly, only a small percentage of the people on earth are rational.
> >
> > There is NO scientific basis for a rational world...
> >
> > but there is a scientific basis for a irratio[nal*] world.
> 
> * Correcting Starfaker's dyslexia.
> 
> "Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we
> suppose, but queerer than we can suppose." -- J.B.S. Haldane

Just talk. Haldane was a biologist,
and not known for competence in physics or cosmology.
The Universe is not an evolved biologcal system.

His naive psychologising about inherent limitations of the human brain
is best ignored.
Fortunatately Haldane himself saw that his sayings
were 'suspicions' only,

Jan

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#662602

Fromhitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Date2025-04-10 11:33 +0000
Message-ID<8309cf9411b3d1fb6990a61dbcac02b9@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#662593
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 7:20:18 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> gharnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than
> > we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose." -- J.B.S. Haldane
>
> Just talk. Haldane was a biologist, and not known for competence in
> physics or cosmology. The Universe is not an evolved biologcal system.

Are we sure of that?

> His naive psychologising about inherent limitations of the human
> brain is best ignored.

I don't know about that, but

"he described how he 'enjoyed the opportunity of killing people and
regarded this as a respectable relic of primitive man.'”

Did he have a troubling little psychological problem, or maybe
it was PTSD.

> Fortunatately Haldane himself saw that his sayings
> were 'suspicions' only,
>
> Jan

Well, I have suspicions about his suspicions.

"Nobel laureate Peter Medawar once referred to Haldane as, 'the
cleverest
man I ever knew'”

I consider his suspicions as "clever" :-)  Fortunately, it doesn't
seemed
to have prevented a sufficient number from trying to understand the
Cosmic
All anyway.

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#662605

FromArius Babaskin Rui <bnk@aab.ru>
Date2025-04-10 12:46 +0000
Message-ID<vt8eja$2vhnd$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#662602
gharnagel wrote:

> Well, I have suspicions about his suspicions.
> 
> "Nobel laureate Peter Medawar once referred to Haldane as, 'the
> cleverest man I ever knew'”
> 
> I consider his suspicions as "clever"   Fortunately, it doesn't seemed
> to have prevented a sufficient number from trying to understand the
> Cosmic All anyway.

no sir, my paper *_On the Divergent Matter of the Moving Koerpers Model_* 
is correct. The abstract coercive conception of the Einstine's 
*/_bended spacetime_/* is incorrect.

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#662635

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-04-11 07:19 +0200
Message-ID<m5rn1nFj157U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#662605
Am Donnerstag000010, 10.04.2025 um 14:46 schrieb Arius Babaskin Rui:
> gharnagel wrote:
> 
>> Well, I have suspicions about his suspicions.
>>
>> "Nobel laureate Peter Medawar once referred to Haldane as, 'the
>> cleverest man I ever knew'”
>>
>> I consider his suspicions as "clever"   Fortunately, it doesn't seemed
>> to have prevented a sufficient number from trying to understand the
>> Cosmic All anyway.
> 
> no sir, my paper *_On the Divergent Matter of the Moving Koerpers Model_*
> is correct. The abstract coercive conception of the Einstine's
> */_bended spacetime_/* is incorrect.

'Körper' is a German word and means 'body'.

But unlike the English 'body', it is mainly used for the human body or 
something similar.

The German word 'Körper' isn't a a synonym for 'object', but usually 
addresses biological bodies.

In geometry 'Körper' is used in German to address objects with three 
dimensions. Also a certain type of mathematical objects are called 'Körper'.

But particles, atoms, rays and many other physical objects are not 
called 'Körper'.

The title 'electrodynamics of moving bodies' had therefore a strange 
connotation in German.

TH

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#662652

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2025-04-11 19:52 +0200
Message-ID<1ramdrp.6j8jyps41hq0N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#662635
Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am Donnerstag000010, 10.04.2025 um 14:46 schrieb Arius Babaskin Rui:
> > gharnagel wrote:
> > 
> >> Well, I have suspicions about his suspicions.
> >>
> >> "Nobel laureate Peter Medawar once referred to Haldane as, 'the
> >> cleverest man I ever knew'"
> >>
> >> I consider his suspicions as "clever"   Fortunately, it doesn't seemed
> >> to have prevented a sufficient number from trying to understand the
> >> Cosmic All anyway.
> > 
> > no sir, my paper *_On the Divergent Matter of the Moving Koerpers Model_*
> > is correct. The abstract coercive conception of the Einstine's
> > */_bended spacetime_/* is incorrect.
> 
> 'Körper' is a German word and means 'body'.
> 
> But unlike the English 'body', it is mainly used for the human body or
> something similar.
> 
> The German word 'Körper' isn't a a synonym for 'object', but usually 
> addresses biological bodies.
> 
> In geometry 'Körper' is used in German to address objects with three 
> dimensions. Also a certain type of mathematical objects are called 'Körper'.
> 
> But particles, atoms, rays and many other physical objects are not 
> called 'Körper'.
> 
> The title 'electrodynamics of moving bodies' had therefore a strange 
> connotation in German.

So you are incompetent in scientific German as well. 

FYI:  Körper (Physik)
Ein physikalischer Körper ist ein von seiner Umgebung abgrenzbares
Objekt, das eine Masse sowie ein Volumen besitzt.

Jan

-- 
<https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Körper_(Physik)>

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#662653

FromDouglas Laterza <ou@oodssaa.it>
Date2025-04-11 18:04 +0000
Message-ID<vtblj2$28dbm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#662652
J. J. Lodder wrote:

> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>> But particles, atoms, rays and many other physical objects are not
>> called 'Körper'.

of course not, since are particles and waves, and not koerpers.

>> The title 'electrodynamics of moving bodies' had therefore a strange
>> connotation in German.
> 
> So you are incompetent in scientific German as well.
> 
> FYI:  Körper (Physik)
> Ein physikalischer Körper ist ein von seiner Umgebung abgrenzbares
> Objekt, das eine Masse sowie ein Volumen besitzt.
> 
> Jan

we agree. First and foremost koerpers comes in physics, then biology. 
Reveals Heger don't undrestand universities.

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#662665

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-04-12 10:48 +0200
Message-ID<m5unm2F36ttU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#662653
Am Freitag000011, 11.04.2025 um 20:04 schrieb Douglas Laterza:
> J. J. Lodder wrote:
> 
>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>> But particles, atoms, rays and many other physical objects are not
>>> called 'Körper'.
> 
> of course not, since are particles and waves, and not koerpers.
> 
>>> The title 'electrodynamics of moving bodies' had therefore a strange
>>> connotation in German.
>>
>> So you are incompetent in scientific German as well.

Well, actually I'm not a physicist and don't know, how the physicists talk.

I'm an engineer from education and had no personal contacts to the 
physics department. So: possibly they speak in a different idiom than 
engineers do.

To me the title 'moving bodies' (combined with 'electric forces') sounds 
like a synonym for 'sex'.
...


TH

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#662666

FromBobbie Bakhvalov <ab@vibh.ru>
Date2025-04-12 10:39 +0000
Message-ID<vtdfsf$9bus$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#662665
Thomas Heger wrote:

> I'm an engineer from education and had no personal contacts to the
> physics department. So: possibly they speak in a different idiom than
> engineers do.
> 
> To me the title 'moving bodies' (combined with 'electric forces') sounds
> like a synonym for 'sex'.
> ...

since you are engineer neither. Ever heard of a blackbody in your area of 
interest? Here a little what the cacamerica destroyed 2. ww for no reason. 
They had electric current, the polakia for instance doesn't have it right 
now.

*_Beautiful Dresden Germany in 1936_*
https://%42i%54%63hute.com/vi%44eo/biiQogqnLF3N

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#662680

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-04-13 09:11 +0200
Message-ID<m616brFfdkbU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#662666
Am Samstag000012, 12.04.2025 um 12:39 schrieb Bobbie Bakhvalov:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> I'm an engineer from education and had no personal contacts to the
>> physics department. So: possibly they speak in a different idiom than
>> engineers do.
>>
>> To me the title 'moving bodies' (combined with 'electric forces') sounds
>> like a synonym for 'sex'.
>> ...
> 
> since you are engineer neither. Ever heard of a blackbody in your area of
> interest?..

Actually you are right, because I'm not an engineer by profession.

But I own a very nice document from the university 'TU-Berlin', which 
grants the academic degree 'Dipl.-Ing.' to me.

Therefore I'm allowed to use 'Dipl.-Ing.' on all letters that I write. I 
could also write that on my door-bell (if I wanted to, what I didn't).

About 'blackbody radiation' I have heard before.

Most of the relevant equations I could write down here, without looking 
them up.


Why I think, that Einstein's title is 'mocking'?

Well, I conducted extensive studies on that particular paper and found, 
that article is really bad and FULL of errors.

The number of errors is sooooo large, that they cannot be explained as 
mistakes, but another explanation is required.

This would be im my opinion an intentional offense ('mocking'), to which 
the title would be the 'cherry on the cake'.


TH

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#662683

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-13 01:07 -0700
Message-ID<4uCcnU5A9ptN7Wb6nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#662680
On 04/13/2025 12:11 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Samstag000012, 12.04.2025 um 12:39 schrieb Bobbie Bakhvalov:
>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>> I'm an engineer from education and had no personal contacts to the
>>> physics department. So: possibly they speak in a different idiom than
>>> engineers do.
>>>
>>> To me the title 'moving bodies' (combined with 'electric forces') sounds
>>> like a synonym for 'sex'.
>>> ...
>>
>> since you are engineer neither. Ever heard of a blackbody in your area of
>> interest?..
>
> Actually you are right, because I'm not an engineer by profession.
>
> But I own a very nice document from the university 'TU-Berlin', which
> grants the academic degree 'Dipl.-Ing.' to me.
>
> Therefore I'm allowed to use 'Dipl.-Ing.' on all letters that I write. I
> could also write that on my door-bell (if I wanted to, what I didn't).
>
> About 'blackbody radiation' I have heard before.
>
> Most of the relevant equations I could write down here, without looking
> them up.
>
>
> Why I think, that Einstein's title is 'mocking'?
>
> Well, I conducted extensive studies on that particular paper and found,
> that article is really bad and FULL of errors.
>
> The number of errors is sooooo large, that they cannot be explained as
> mistakes, but another explanation is required.
>
> This would be im my opinion an intentional offense ('mocking'), to which
> the title would be the 'cherry on the cake'.
>
>
> TH

Maybe he was just suffering through a language barrier.

Einstein developed a lot. Definitely there are differences early
Einstein and later Einstein. I contrast that with myself, having a very
coherent narrative since I was very versed in all the super-classical
theories then set loose on modern mathematics and premier physics.


The later Einstein, from "Out of My Later Years", when he was talking
about a field theory and not talking about the linear and rotational, I
can't really say whether he knew about the differences thereof or not,
though, a generous reading sees that he does and will arrive at them.

Or, it's arrived at.

Really you should point at me, I'm one of the premier mathematicians and
physicists of this time.

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#662713

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-04-14 05:58 +0200
Message-ID<m63fctFqo98U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#662683
Am Sonntag000013, 13.04.2025 um 10:07 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
> On 04/13/2025 12:11 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Samstag000012, 12.04.2025 um 12:39 schrieb Bobbie Bakhvalov:
>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm an engineer from education and had no personal contacts to the
>>>> physics department. So: possibly they speak in a different idiom than
>>>> engineers do.
>>>>
>>>> To me the title 'moving bodies' (combined with 'electric forces') 
>>>> sounds
>>>> like a synonym for 'sex'.
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> since you are engineer neither. Ever heard of a blackbody in your 
>>> area of
>>> interest?..
>>
>> Actually you are right, because I'm not an engineer by profession.
>>
>> But I own a very nice document from the university 'TU-Berlin', which
>> grants the academic degree 'Dipl.-Ing.' to me.
>>
>> Therefore I'm allowed to use 'Dipl.-Ing.' on all letters that I write. I
>> could also write that on my door-bell (if I wanted to, what I didn't).
>>
>> About 'blackbody radiation' I have heard before.
>>
>> Most of the relevant equations I could write down here, without looking
>> them up.
>>
>>
>> Why I think, that Einstein's title is 'mocking'?
>>
>> Well, I conducted extensive studies on that particular paper and found,
>> that article is really bad and FULL of errors.
>>
>> The number of errors is sooooo large, that they cannot be explained as
>> mistakes, but another explanation is required.
>>
>> This would be im my opinion an intentional offense ('mocking'), to which
>> the title would be the 'cherry on the cake'.
>>
>>
>> TH
> 
> Maybe he was just suffering through a language barrier.

Well, Einstein was German and wrote in German, hence there was no 
'language barrier'.

> 
> Einstein developed a lot. Definitely there are differences early
> Einstein and later Einstein. I contrast that with myself, having a very
> coherent narrative since I was very versed in all the super-classical
> theories then set loose on modern mathematics and premier physics.

Sure, he developed and became a much better physicist.

But I'm talking about a certain paper from 1905, when Einstein was 26.

...


TH

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#662718

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-13 21:54 -0700
Message-ID<ch2dnYuacqCYCGH6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#662713
On 04/13/2025 08:58 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Sonntag000013, 13.04.2025 um 10:07 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
>> On 04/13/2025 12:11 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Am Samstag000012, 12.04.2025 um 12:39 schrieb Bobbie Bakhvalov:
>>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm an engineer from education and had no personal contacts to the
>>>>> physics department. So: possibly they speak in a different idiom than
>>>>> engineers do.
>>>>>
>>>>> To me the title 'moving bodies' (combined with 'electric forces')
>>>>> sounds
>>>>> like a synonym for 'sex'.
>>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> since you are engineer neither. Ever heard of a blackbody in your
>>>> area of
>>>> interest?..
>>>
>>> Actually you are right, because I'm not an engineer by profession.
>>>
>>> But I own a very nice document from the university 'TU-Berlin', which
>>> grants the academic degree 'Dipl.-Ing.' to me.
>>>
>>> Therefore I'm allowed to use 'Dipl.-Ing.' on all letters that I write. I
>>> could also write that on my door-bell (if I wanted to, what I didn't).
>>>
>>> About 'blackbody radiation' I have heard before.
>>>
>>> Most of the relevant equations I could write down here, without looking
>>> them up.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why I think, that Einstein's title is 'mocking'?
>>>
>>> Well, I conducted extensive studies on that particular paper and found,
>>> that article is really bad and FULL of errors.
>>>
>>> The number of errors is sooooo large, that they cannot be explained as
>>> mistakes, but another explanation is required.
>>>
>>> This would be im my opinion an intentional offense ('mocking'), to which
>>> the title would be the 'cherry on the cake'.
>>>
>>>
>>> TH
>>
>> Maybe he was just suffering through a language barrier.
>
> Well, Einstein was German and wrote in German, hence there was no
> 'language barrier'.
>
>>
>> Einstein developed a lot. Definitely there are differences early
>> Einstein and later Einstein. I contrast that with myself, having a very
>> coherent narrative since I was very versed in all the super-classical
>> theories then set loose on modern mathematics and premier physics.
>
> Sure, he developed and became a much better physicist.
>
> But I'm talking about a certain paper from 1905, when Einstein was 26.
>
> ...
>
>
> TH
>

A brief account given some facts of electron theory and a bit of algebra
and geometry.

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#662724

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com>
Date2025-04-14 09:31 +0200
Message-ID<vtidkf$phv3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#662713
On 2025-04-14 03:58:05 +0000, Thomas Heger said:

> Am Sonntag000013, 13.04.2025 um 10:07 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
>> On 04/13/2025 12:11 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Am Samstag000012, 12.04.2025 um 12:39 schrieb Bobbie Bakhvalov:
>>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm an engineer from education and had no personal contacts to the
>>>>> physics department. So: possibly they speak in a different idiom than
>>>>> engineers do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To me the title 'moving bodies' (combined with 'electric forces') sounds
>>>>> like a synonym for 'sex'.
>>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>> since you are engineer neither. Ever heard of a blackbody in your area of
>>>> interest?..
>>> 
>>> Actually you are right, because I'm not an engineer by profession.
>>> 
>>> But I own a very nice document from the university 'TU-Berlin', which
>>> grants the academic degree 'Dipl.-Ing.' to me.
>>> 
>>> Therefore I'm allowed to use 'Dipl.-Ing.' on all letters that I write. I
>>> could also write that on my door-bell (if I wanted to, what I didn't).
>>> 
>>> About 'blackbody radiation' I have heard before.
>>> 
>>> Most of the relevant equations I could write down here, without looking
>>> them up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why I think, that Einstein's title is 'mocking'?
>>> 
>>> Well, I conducted extensive studies on that particular paper and found,
>>> that article is really bad and FULL of errors.
>>> 
>>> The number of errors is sooooo large, that they cannot be explained as
>>> mistakes, but another explanation is required.
>>> 
>>> This would be im my opinion an intentional offense ('mocking'), to which
>>> the title would be the 'cherry on the cake'.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TH
>> 
>> Maybe he was just suffering through a language barrier.
> 
> Well, Einstein was German and wrote in German, hence there was no 
> 'language barrier'.

> 
>> 
>> Einstein developed a lot. Definitely there are differences early
>> Einstein and later Einstein. I contrast that with myself, having a very
>> coherent narrative since I was very versed in all the super-classical
>> theories then set loose on modern mathematics and premier physics.
> 
> Sure, he developed and became a much better physicist.
> 
> But I'm talking about a certain paper from 1905, when Einstein was 26.

Forget your sex obsession: "black body" was an established term long 
before 1905. Newton wrote "Do not black Bodies conceive heat more 
easily from Light than those of other Colours do, by reason that the 
Light falling on them is not reflected outwards, but enters into the 
Bodies, and is often reflected and refracted within them, until it be 
stifled and lost?"


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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#662792

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2025-04-15 22:21 +0200
Message-ID<1raur33.1u0ba37162sdbtN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#662724
Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2025-04-14 03:58:05 +0000, Thomas Heger said:
> 
> > Am Sonntag000013, 13.04.2025 um 10:07 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
> >> On 04/13/2025 12:11 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>> Am Samstag000012, 12.04.2025 um 12:39 schrieb Bobbie Bakhvalov:
> >>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> I'm an engineer from education and had no personal contacts to the
> >>>>> physics department. So: possibly they speak in a different idiom than
> >>>>> engineers do.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> To me the title 'moving bodies' (combined with 'electric forces') sounds
> >>>>> like a synonym for 'sex'.
> >>>>> ...
> >>>> 
> >>>> since you are engineer neither. Ever heard of a blackbody in your area of
> >>>> interest?..
> >>> 
> >>> Actually you are right, because I'm not an engineer by profession.
> >>> 
> >>> But I own a very nice document from the university 'TU-Berlin', which
> >>> grants the academic degree 'Dipl.-Ing.' to me.
> >>> 
> >>> Therefore I'm allowed to use 'Dipl.-Ing.' on all letters that I write. I
> >>> could also write that on my door-bell (if I wanted to, what I didn't).
> >>> 
> >>> About 'blackbody radiation' I have heard before.
> >>> 
> >>> Most of the relevant equations I could write down here, without looking
> >>> them up.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Why I think, that Einstein's title is 'mocking'?
> >>> 
> >>> Well, I conducted extensive studies on that particular paper and found,
> >>> that article is really bad and FULL of errors.
> >>> 
> >>> The number of errors is sooooo large, that they cannot be explained as
> >>> mistakes, but another explanation is required.
> >>> 
> >>> This would be im my opinion an intentional offense ('mocking'), to which
> >>> the title would be the 'cherry on the cake'.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> TH
> >> 
> >> Maybe he was just suffering through a language barrier.
> > 
> > Well, Einstein was German and wrote in German, hence there was no 
> > 'language barrier'.
> 
> > 
> >> 
> >> Einstein developed a lot. Definitely there are differences early
> >> Einstein and later Einstein. I contrast that with myself, having a very
> >> coherent narrative since I was very versed in all the super-classical
> >> theories then set loose on modern mathematics and premier physics.
> > 
> > Sure, he developed and became a much better physicist.
> > 
> > But I'm talking about a certain paper from 1905, when Einstein was 26.
> 
> Forget your sex obsession: "black body" was an established term long 
> before 1905. Newton wrote "Do not black Bodies conceive heat more 
> easily from Light than those of other Colours do, by reason that the 
> Light falling on them is not reflected outwards, but enters into the 
> Bodies, and is often reflected and refracted within them, until it be
> stifled and lost?"

But I guess that Newon wouldn't have seen a glowing poker
as an example of a 'black body'.
Wikipedia informs me that it was invented in 1860.
"Der Begriff "Schwarzer Körper" wurde 1860 von Gustav Robert Kirchhoff
geprägt."

So it -was- German, originally,

Jan

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#662687

FromEdel Baburoff <obbeub@aerb.ru>
Date2025-04-13 10:04 +0000
Message-ID<vtg27f$2jrf5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#662680
Thomas Heger wrote:

> Why I think, that Einstein's title is 'mocking'?
> 
> Well, I conducted extensive studies on that particular paper and found,
> that article is really bad and FULL of errors.
> 
> The number of errors is sooooo large, that they cannot be explained as
> mistakes, but another explanation is required.

here we agree my friend. A disgusting excuse of a human being, this 
Einstine. But the history of science is 100% fake. Those equations funded 
where else, assigned to him, _admittedly_ something he never understood. I 
am so depressed about this Einstine. This wasn't even his real name. I 
suppose he was an orphan from the previous _population reset_. Here some 
proofs, making me undrestand

*_The Marble Church - My Lunch Break_*
https://%42i%54%63hute.com/vi%44eo/LcTAYaPMwQVl

*_Beautiful Dresden Germany in 1936_*
https://%42i%54%63hute.com/vi%44eo/biiQogqnLF3N

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#662667

FromCorbin Yuan Xiong <nb@rya.cn>
Date2025-04-12 10:52 +0000
Message-ID<vtdgl9$9bvf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#662665
Thomas Heger wrote:

> I'm an engineer from education and had no personal contacts to the
> physics department. So: possibly they speak in a different idiom than
> engineers do.
> 
> To me the title 'moving bodies' (combined with 'electric forces') sounds
> like a synonym for 'sex'.
> ...

speaking the witch neither I think they built those buildings. To me it 
looks like something /_laser_3D_printing_/, done by others before 
population resets.

*_Beautiful Dresden Germany in 1936_*
https://%42i%54%63hute.com/vi%44eo/biiQogqnLF3N

*_The Marble Church - My Lunch Break_*
https://%42i%54%63hute.com/vi%44eo/LcTAYaPMwQVl

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#662671

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-12 11:03 -0500
Message-ID<vte2sq$13bh6$1@solani.org>
In reply to#662667
On 4/12/25 5:52 AM, Corbin Yuan Xiong wrote:
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
>  >
> *_Beautiful Dresden Germany in 1936_*
> https://%42i%54%63hute.com/vi%44eo/biiQogqnLF3N
> 
> 
> 



Trump should watch that to learn a lesson or two. Netanyahu too! A lot 
of Jews these days too.

Nazis are your enemy. They'll ruin you.

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