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  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 14:42 -0600
    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 15:48 -0500
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 14:52 -0600
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 16:04 -0500
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-01 22:41 +0100
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 17:15 -0500
              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-02 07:39 +0100
                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 14:01 -0500
                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-02 22:21 +0000
                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2025-03-02 22:55 +0000
                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-02 23:17 +0000
                      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 15:21 -0800
                        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-03 00:07 +0000
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-02 03:24 +0000
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-02 03:22 +0000
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-02 11:31 +0100
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-02 11:03 -0800
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-03 09:40 +0100
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-01 18:19 -0500
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 19:11 -0500
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 18:30 -0600
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 18:52 -0600
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-02 12:13 -0500
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 13:48 -0500
              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-02 16:03 -0500
                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 16:14 -0500
                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-02 16:41 -0500
                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-02 22:47 +0100
                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-02 22:10 +0000
                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-02 15:11 -0800
                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 19:56 -0500
                      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-03 06:25 +0100
                        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 08:43 -0500
                          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-03 15:53 +0100
                            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 15:44 -0500
                              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-03 23:28 +0100
                            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-03 22:51 +0000
                              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 15:11 -0800
                                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-04 04:43 +0000
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> - 2025-03-02 03:35 -0500
    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-02 13:05 +0000
    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 23:27 -0600
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 22:52 -0600
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 20:59 -0800

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#661595 — Re: What Made My Day Today :-)

- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.

The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He 
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very 
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially 
Nazi idiots.

That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed 
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.

Let me give you an analogy (you need it!) of what's been happening since 
Ukrainian war began.

Imagine one of the major breadwinners in your family is sick in the 
hospital and you have to spend a lot of money to keep him alive and 
giving him a chance to recover. You decide to do that. But after some 
time and paying some medical bills, you treat the breadwinner 
aggressively, shouting at him who's helplessly lying in hospital bed, 
that he has caused such and such amounts of money and "is not in a 
position" to say what he wants, and "is not getting much better" and 
"Does not have any cards in his hands."

Do you see the stupidity there? That's how stupid Trump and his admin is.

So Zelensky essentially told those Bozos, "You Bozos better shut your 
traps and help Ukraine for your own fucking interests; or, grab your 
stupid asses and fuck off and let Putin have it. It is _you_ who are not 
in a position to say what you want. Not Ukraine. You have to pay for 
getting what you want later in Ukraine."

Anybody with slightest sense in him understood Zelensky's position, 
including even the Iranian leader, who tweeted about it in Ukrainian 
language.

Zelensky's reaction to bullshit he was receiving from Trump showed what 
kind of Nazis they are and how they look at Ukraine. Then of course all 
the American media got full of "Oh, see how Zelensky lost his chances 
with the US help." No. Trump exposed himself and his nonsensical actions 
regarding Ukraine. Just like members of that family in the analogy 
above, telling to their own breadwinner he's does not have any cards in 
his hands.

The card is a friendly Ukraine. Bigger than the lousy "$350B" Trump was 
talking about. $350B is a Bill Gates. Who the fuck is Bill Gates 
compared to Ukraine?...

What a fuckup indeed. What a fucked up act can the wrong man and a 
fucked up system do in White House. And kudos for Zelensky. It made my 
day yesterday.

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#661596

Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:

>- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>
>The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He 
>didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very 
>realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially 
>Nazi idiots.
>
>That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed 
>Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.


Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  This could indeed be
WWIII.  Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track.  With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#661597

On 3/1/25 2:48 PM, Joel wrote:
> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>
>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>> Nazi idiots.
>>
>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
> 
> 
> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  This could indeed be
> WWIII.  Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
> get off that track.  With DJT as president, and me working with him
> and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
> finally lay off.
> 


Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi 
people who put that NY thug in that office.

If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis 
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your 
overgrown asses!

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#661599

Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>
>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>
>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>> 
>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  This could indeed be
>> WWIII.  Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
>> get off that track.  With DJT as president, and me working with him
>> and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
>> finally lay off.
>
>Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi 
>people who put that NY thug in that office.
>
>If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis 
>are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your 
>overgrown asses!


The point is that Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#661602

W dniu 01.03.2025 o 22:04, Joel pisze:
> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>>
>>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>>>
>>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  This could indeed be
>>> WWIII.  Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
>>> get off that track.  With DJT as president, and me working with him
>>> and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
>>> finally lay off.
>>
>> Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
>> people who put that NY thug in that office.
>>
>> If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
>> are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
>> overgrown asses!
> 
> 
> The point is that Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
> war.

Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.





> 

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#661606

Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:

>> Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
>> war.
>
>Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
>WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
>a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
>made one too, BTW.


It's not a game.  Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.  Trump has shown that he's needed and so have I.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#661617

W dniu 01.03.2025 o 23:15, Joel pisze:
> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> 
>>> Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
>>> war.
>>
>> Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
>> WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
>> a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
>> made one too, BTW.
> 
> 
> It's not a game.  Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
> street. 

You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.

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#661635

Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:

>>>> Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
>>>> war.
>>>
>>> Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
>>> WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
>>> a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
>>> made one too, BTW.
>> 
>> It's not a game.  Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
>> street. 
>
>You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
>what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
>power.


Do you want more war, or an end to the oppression of Ukraine?  Because
Putin isn't done.  He's waiting to see how the U.S. goes forward.
Kamala Harris would've handled it well, we believe - but people had
more confidence in Trump, it helped him win including the popular
vote.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#661645

On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 6:39:45 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

> W dniu 01.03.2025 o 23:15, Joel pisze:
>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>>>> Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
>>>> war.

Good idea.
>>>
>>> Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
>>> WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
>>> a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
>>> made one too, BTW.

Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush
Germany but that did not work.
>>
>>
>> It's not a game.  Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
>> street.

Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
>
> You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
> what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
> power.

No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.

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#661647

bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote in 
news:92a353feaea2695190e2f3c563314720@www.novabbs.com:

> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 6:39:45 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> 
>> W dniu 01.03.2025 o 23:15, Joel pisze:
>>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
>>>>> war.
> 
> Good idea.
>>>>
>>>> Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
>>>> WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
>>>> a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
>>>> made one too, BTW.
> 
> Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush
> Germany but that did not work.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's not a game.  Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
>>> street.
> 
> Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
>>
>> You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
>> what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
>> power.
> 
> No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.

The World still believes in growth by manipulation.  God told us what to 
do.  We haven't listened yet.

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#661649

On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 22:55:48 +0000, David LaRue wrote:

> bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote in
> news:92a353feaea2695190e2f3c563314720@www.novabbs.com:
>
>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 6:39:45 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>
>>> W dniu 01.03.2025 o 23:15, Joel pisze:
>>>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
>>>>>> war.
>>
>> Good idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
>>>>> WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
>>>>> a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
>>>>> made one too, BTW.
>>
>> Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush
>> Germany but that did not work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's not a game.  Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
>>>> street.
>>
>> Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
>>>
>>> You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
>>> what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
>>> power.
>>
>> No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.
>
> The World still believes in growth by manipulation.  God told us what to
> do.  We haven't listened yet.

Can't expect arrogant atheists to believe in anything Divine.

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#661650

On 3/2/2025 3:17 PM, Bertietaylor wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 22:55:48 +0000, David LaRue wrote:
> 
>> bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote in
>> news:92a353feaea2695190e2f3c563314720@www.novabbs.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 6:39:45 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>
>>>> W dniu 01.03.2025 o 23:15, Joel pisze:
>>>>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
>>>>>>> war.
>>>
>>> Good idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
>>>>>> WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
>>>>>> a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
>>>>>> made one too, BTW.
>>>
>>> Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush
>>> Germany but that did not work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not a game.  Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
>>>>> street.
>>>
>>> Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
>>>>
>>>> You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
>>>> what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
>>>> power.
>>>
>>> No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.
>>
>> The World still believes in growth by manipulation.  God told us what to
>> do.  We haven't listened yet.
> 
> Can't expect arrogant atheists to believe in anything Divine.

I think it might be akin to not thinking about any sort of "punishment" 
in the afterlife, if at all? So, they say who gives a crap!

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#661651

On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 23:21:55 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

> On 3/2/2025 3:17 PM, Bertietaylor wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 22:55:48 +0000, David LaRue wrote:
>>
>>> bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote in
>>> news:92a353feaea2695190e2f3c563314720@www.novabbs.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 6:39:45 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> W dniu 01.03.2025 o 23:15, Joel pisze:
>>>>>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
>>>>>>>> war.
>>>>
>>>> Good idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
>>>>>>> WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
>>>>>>> a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
>>>>>>> made one too, BTW.
>>>>
>>>> Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush
>>>> Germany but that did not work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not a game.  Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
>>>>>> street.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
>>>>> what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
>>>>> power.
>>>>
>>>> No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.
>>>
>>> The World still believes in growth by manipulation.  God told us what to
>>> do.  We haven't listened yet.
>>
>> Can't expect arrogant atheists to believe in anything Divine.
>
> I think it might be akin to not thinking about any sort of "punishment"
> in the afterlife, if at all? So, they say who gives a crap!

Indeed the whole practical purpose of religion and metaphysics is to
make people behave better in this life out of fear for what may befall
in the afterlife. When the religion and metaphysics gives clearance for
evil action then there is no difference between atheists and believers,
conduct wise.

Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof

We sinless doggies cannot escape the bliss of low Heaven.

Bertietaylor

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#661616

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
On 2025-03-01, Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> W dniu 01.03.2025 o 22:04, Joel pisze:
>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>>>
>>>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  This could indeed be
>>>> WWIII.  Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
>>>> get off that track.  With DJT as president, and me working with him
>>>> and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
>>>> finally lay off.
>>>
>>> Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
>>> people who put that NY thug in that office.
>>>
>>> If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
>>> are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
>>> overgrown asses!
>> 
>> 
>> The point is that Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
>> war.
>
> Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
> WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
> a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
> made one too, BTW.
>

If anyone is starting wars, its us, who think that every two-bit dicator
is "the next Hitler".

This fear has been crippling us, and leading us into pointless
destruction for too long.  Putin is Putin.  Hitler was Hitler.

It is YOUR rhetoric which is dangerous, which would lead to WWIII.  We
must be willing to negotiate and engage in diplomacy, otherwise the ONLY
option is war with a nuclear power.

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#661615

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
On 2025-03-01, Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/1/25 2:48 PM, Joel wrote:
>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>
>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>
>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  This could indeed be
>> WWIII.  Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
>> get off that track.  With DJT as president, and me working with him
>> and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
>> finally lay off.
>> 
>
>
> Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi 
> people who put that NY thug in that office.
>
> If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis 
> are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your 
> overgrown asses!


When someone thinks that Trump is a Nazi, or that his supporters are, I
mentally flag them as deranged.

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#661621

Am Samstag000001, 01.03.2025 um 21:52 schrieb Physfitfreak:
> On 3/1/25 2:48 PM, Joel wrote:
>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>
>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>
>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>>
>>
>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  This could indeed be
>> WWIII.  Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
>> get off that track.  With DJT as president, and me working with him
>> and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
>> finally lay off.
>>
> 
> 
> Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi 
> people who put that NY thug in that office.
> 
> If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis 
> are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your 
> overgrown asses!


Before WWIII there was something commonly called WWII.

Now the overall features of the plot of the Ukraine conflict have 
similarities to WWII and the fate of Germany.

Germans had actually believed, they were supported by the USA and the 
UK, because there was generous support from Wall Street and the tycoons 
of that era.

Also the British king and some parts of the British elite were 
supporters of the Nazis.

So, the German took money, weapons and used uniforms and went into war 
with Russia (known as 'Soviet Union' at that time).

BUT: the western 'allies' changed their mind and supported Russia later 
and bombed their alleged 'friend' into oblivion, while delivering 
weapons, money and other supply (including strange items like 'spam') in 
huge amounts to Russia.

Something like that seems a likely scenario for the Ukraine, too.

But such a repetition of a successful plot is really stupid, because 
people are sometimes stupid, but not all the time.

It is actually dangerous to repeat plots of big scale, because the 
repetition would endanger the gain of the first occurrence of the same plot.

Now poor Mr Szelinsky got kicked out of the White house and does not 
understand things anymore, even if that is not at all difficult.

It's all about money, which is not really Ukrainian money in this case, 
but European.

 From the Ukraine they 'only' want their natural resources (all of them, 
please).

TH

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#661636

Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Samstag000001, 01.03.2025 um 21:52 schrieb Physfitfreak:
> > On 3/1/25 2:48 PM, Joel wrote:
> >> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
> >>>
> >>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
> >>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
> >>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
> >>> Nazi idiots.
> >>>
> >>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
> >>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  This could indeed be
> >> WWIII.  Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
> >> get off that track.  With DJT as president, and me working with him
> >> and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
> >> finally lay off.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
> > people who put that NY thug in that office.
> >
> > If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
> > are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
> > overgrown asses!
> 
> Before WWIII there was something commonly called WWII.
> 
> Now the overall features of the plot of the Ukraine conflict have
> similarities to WWII and the fate of Germany.
> 
> Germans had actually believed, they were supported by the USA and the
> UK, because there was generous support from Wall Street and the tycoons
> of that era.
> 
> Also the British king and some parts of the British elite were
> supporters of the Nazis.
> 
> So, the German took money, weapons and used uniforms and went into war
> with Russia (known as 'Soviet Union' at that time).
> 
> BUT: the western 'allies' changed their mind and supported Russia later
> and bombed their alleged 'friend' into oblivion, while delivering
> weapons, money and other supply (including strange items like 'spam') in
> huge amounts to Russia.
> 
> Something like that seems a likely scenario for the Ukraine, too.
> 
> But such a repetition of a successful plot is really stupid, because
> people are sometimes stupid, but not all the time.
> 
> It is actually dangerous to repeat plots of big scale, because the
> repetition would endanger the gain of the first occurrence of the same plot.
> 
> Now poor Mr Szelinsky got kicked out of the White house and does not
> understand things anymore, even if that is not at all difficult.
> 
> It's all about money, which is not really Ukrainian money in this case,
> but European.
> 
>  From the Ukraine they 'only' want their natural resources (all of them,
> please).
> 
> TH


"'only' want their natural resources", then they should KILL for it.


For example...

you got a tribe of chipanzees living in a area that has no bananas, and
they see another 
tribe of chipanzees living in a area that has lots of bananas...THEY
HAVE TO KILL FOR IT!!!!

dats is how it is done.


stab the chimpanzees with a pencil!



Nature.






-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#661659

Am Sonntag000002, 02.03.2025 um 20:03 schrieb The Starmaker:
...
>> Now poor Mr Szelinsky got kicked out of the White house and does not
>> understand things anymore, even if that is not at all difficult.
>>
>> It's all about money, which is not really Ukrainian money in this case,
>> but European.
>>
>>   From the Ukraine they 'only' want their natural resources (all of them,
>> please).
>>
>> TH
> 
> 
> "'only' want their natural resources", then they should KILL for it.

Sure, but that gave 'bad press' in the past and  therefore isn't 
recommended.

It is better, if the apes offer the bananas themselves.

> 
> For example...
> 
> you got a tribe of chipanzees living in a area that has no bananas, and
> they see another
> tribe of chipanzees living in a area that has lots of bananas...THEY
> HAVE TO KILL FOR IT!!!!
> 
> dats is how it is done.
> 

Yes, kind of. But in your picture the US are chimpanzees, aiming at the 
other apes bananas.

> stab the chimpanzees with a pencil!

Well, yes, 'the pencil is mightier than the sword', (but UseNet is ok, too.)

TH

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#661609

On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>
>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>> Nazi idiots.
>>
>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
> 
> 
> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  


Not really.  This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.

Note how quickly after the meeting ended (early) the timestamp on finely 
crafted press releases were published the White House.

Plus as much as one will want to claim 'America First' on the money 
spent, roughly 80% of was spent domestically in the USA.

FYI, an exact value is hard to pin down because its been complicated by 
DoD accounting slights-of-hand.  For example, M113s sent were claimed as 
their original book value (purchase cost) of ~$600,000 each, despite how 
they were being diverted from a demil (scrap) program where the DoD was 
selling them for $1 (yes, one dollar) each.  This inflates the claimed 
value of the military aid being sent.

> This could indeed be WWIII.  


All sorts of things *could* be.  The biggest problem with the USA not 
holding up to its 1993 & 2014 treaty obligations is that it can only 
embolden other world stage actors such as Iran, NC & China.  We've 
already seen this is the Suez Canal, Taiwan, Philippines and literally 
last week, a new provocation between Australia & New Zealand.

> Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
> get off that track.  With DJT as president, and me working with him
> and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
> finally lay off.

Wish it were so, but there's been zero saber-rattling to motivate Putin 
to change course.  The only thing which has happened so far this weekend 
is that Putin's Hungarian puppet Orban has spoken up on how important it 
is for Ukraine to knuckle under & sue for "peace".  Recall that Neville 
Chamberlain's "Peace in Our Time" success lasted for just 335 days: from 
30 Sept 1938 until 31 August 1939.  We've seen this playbook before.


-hh

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#661611

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>
>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>
>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>> 
>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  
>
>Not really.  This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.


No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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