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| Started by | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2023-10-05 16:55 -0700 |
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Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-10-05 16:55 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-10-05 17:29 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-10-05 18:57 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-06 18:32 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2023-10-06 13:46 -0300
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-06 12:41 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-10-06 16:20 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-14 09:22 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2023-10-14 14:13 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-14 15:07 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-15 07:59 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-15 10:49 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-14 15:03 +0200
Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-14 06:04 -0700
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-15 08:00 +0200
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Reilies Bahmutov <orem@moeaueva.eb> - 2023-10-15 09:17 +0000
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-15 16:20 -0500
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-16 07:25 +0200
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Randale Babaitsev <bavv@bsrbiiva.va> - 2023-10-16 17:12 +0000
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-16 20:40 -0500
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Dono at work Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-17 08:42 +0200
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Dono at work Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-17 19:40 -0500
Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work Thaddeus Gorbachov <hdat@ecaagduh.dh> - 2023-10-17 13:05 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-10-15 07:45 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-15 22:09 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-10-15 15:22 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-15 22:08 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-17 08:50 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-17 11:31 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-18 07:53 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-18 10:53 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-18 02:34 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-19 10:29 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-19 12:04 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-21 06:48 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-21 10:55 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-10-21 12:53 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-21 20:50 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-21 17:18 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-22 10:38 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 08:45 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 18:18 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-23 15:33 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 08:36 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 08:05 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-23 08:36 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 09:37 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-24 09:04 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Hilton Babloev <ovlb@lnltoltl.ot> - 2023-10-24 12:09 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-24 18:44 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 15:32 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-25 14:49 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-26 07:40 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 07:31 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-27 11:58 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-10-27 07:09 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-28 07:38 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-28 09:13 +0200
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-29 08:46 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-10-29 15:17 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 22:03 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-30 08:25 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-03 01:03 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-03 08:53 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-03 11:50 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-05 07:48 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-05 10:52 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-01-13 07:59 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-30 08:12 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-31 07:50 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-10-31 08:03 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-31 11:07 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-01 07:03 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2023-11-01 10:50 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Aldo Gorbunov Posadov <svog@lgoavuod.bs> - 2023-11-01 21:56 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-02 07:59 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-02 08:49 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-03 01:06 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-03 08:45 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-03 12:07 -0400
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 18:07 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-04 08:41 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Phong Abulmambetoff <buhm@fehumhof.ma> - 2023-11-04 09:41 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-05 07:38 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Kyl Babadzhan <zbah@dblankly.ka> - 2023-11-05 13:19 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Meredith Vyskrebtsov <yses@veshrmhe.hv> - 2023-11-05 13:33 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-05 08:03 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-05 10:41 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-06 09:03 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-06 15:09 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-07 08:44 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-07 09:11 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-08 07:43 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 08:45 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-09 07:42 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-09 13:19 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 11:35 -0800
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-10 09:08 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-12 01:16 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-12 14:13 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Randolph Tchekomasov <ndop@trsehaho.co> - 2023-11-07 11:23 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-08 07:42 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Stanton Behoev <nteo@htnbbhhn.et> - 2023-11-08 11:49 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-09 07:47 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 18:08 -0600
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-11-08 02:48 -0500
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-09 07:56 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-10-31 10:43 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-21 17:09 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-21 17:28 -0700
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Humberto Babakhanoff <khub@ofahorak.hu> - 2023-10-22 12:52 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Daryll Shahtmeister <ihsa@eidssrii.hs> - 2023-10-18 11:50 +0000
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-11-02 12:09 +1100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-11-02 08:21 +0100
Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-11-02 10:38 +0100
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-05 16:55 -0700 |
| Subject | Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <b2db9f52-cadc-4961-99db-c05fee9eeaefn@googlegroups.com> |
Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth. At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR span of time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118 BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in particular mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other technologies, like how to make paper, powder, etc. Western science is a fucking joke.
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| From | Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-05 17:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <023ba01c-0991-4e08-9900-aebf8f750e1bn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #622529 |
On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras > took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an > entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth. > > At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work > by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR > span of time. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118 > > BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other > pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years > before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in particular > mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other technologies, like > how to make paper, powder, etc. > > Western science is a fucking joke. So, Dick, how is it that western technology has, in the past, towered over the rest of the world if *they* had the knowledge first? If you steal an idea, that could be plagiarism. However, if you steal from multiple sources, well, that is research! I'm pretty sure that *you* are the fucking joke here, Dick...
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-05 18:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d21600b4-b729-44e3-bf2c-0ab9b631d2adn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #622534 |
On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 9:29:54 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote: > On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras > > took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an > > entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth. > > > > At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work > > by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR > > span of time. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289 > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322 > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118 > > > > BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other > > pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years > > before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in particular > > mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other technologies, like > > how to make paper, powder, etc. > > > > Western science is a fucking joke. > So, Dick, how is it that western technology has, in the past, towered over the rest of the world if *they* had the knowledge first? > > If you steal an idea, that could be plagiarism. However, if you steal from multiple sources, well, that is research! > > I'm pretty sure that *you* are the fucking joke here, Dick... Quite simple: theft, piracy, mass murder, submission of locals, domination by force and death: Spanish empire first, Portuguese followed. Then, after the demise of both empires, britons, frenchies and dutches followed. All of this in just 600 years. Even Newton was benefited from Indian knowledge brought to England. The behavior of invaders of eastern world was the one of depredators, something that indians and chinese had left behind for centuries. The information is online. Do a little of research, fucking relativistic asshole.
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-06 18:32 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <koar4lFucp3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #622540 |
On 2023-10-06 01:57:42 +0000, Richard Hertz said: > On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 9:29:54 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote: >> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:> >> > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, >> Pythagoras> > took advantage of his position in ancient greek >> civilization to plagiarize an> > entire body of mathematics developed >> 1,000 years before his birth.> >> > At least, he had decency and dug >> into developments that preceded his work> > by a millennium. Einstein >> just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR> > span of time.> >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118> >> > BTW, the european >> renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other> > pirates who >> stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years> > >> before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in >> particular> > mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other >> technologies, like> > how to make paper, powder, etc.> >> > Western >> science is a fucking joke. >> So, Dick, how is it that western technology has, in the past, towered >> over the rest of the world if *they* had the knowledge first?>> If you >> steal an idea, that could be plagiarism. However, if you steal from >> multiple sources, well, that is research!>> I'm pretty sure that *you* >> are the fucking joke here, Dick... > > Quite simple: theft, piracy, mass murder, submission of locals, > domination by force and death: Spanish empire first, Portuguese > followed. Then, after > the demise of both empires, britons, frenchies and dutches followed. > All of this in just 600 years. > > Even Newton was benefited from Indian knowledge brought to England. > > The behavior of invaders of eastern world was the one of depredators, > something that indians and chinese had left behind for centuries. > > The information is online. i.e. stuff posted by other nutters. Any references to work published by real scientists in real journals? No. I didn't think so. > Do a little of research, fucking relativistic asshole. -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly in England until 1987.
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| From | wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-10-06 13:46 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <ufpdke$1klj4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #622570 |
Op 6/10/2023 om 13:32 schreef Athel Cornish-Bowden: > On 2023-10-06 01:57:42 +0000, Richard Hertz said: > >> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 9:29:54 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote: >>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz >>> wrote:> > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years >>> ago, Pythagoras> > took advantage of his position in ancient greek >>> civilization to plagiarize an> > entire body of mathematics developed >>> 1,000 years before his birth.> >> > At least, he had decency and dug >>> into developments that preceded his work> > by a millennium. Einstein >>> just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR> > span of time.> >>> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289> > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322> > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118> >> > BTW, the european >>> renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other> > pirates who >>> stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years> > >>> before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in >>> particular> > mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other >>> technologies, like> > how to make paper, powder, etc.> >> > Western >>> science is a fucking joke. >>> So, Dick, how is it that western technology has, in the past, towered >>> over the rest of the world if *they* had the knowledge first?>> If >>> you steal an idea, that could be plagiarism. However, if you steal >>> from multiple sources, well, that is research!>> I'm pretty sure that >>> *you* are the fucking joke here, Dick... >> >> Quite simple: theft, piracy, mass murder, submission of locals, >> domination by force and death: Spanish empire first, Portuguese >> followed. Then, after >> the demise of both empires, britons, frenchies and dutches followed. >> All of this in just 600 years. >> >> Even Newton was benefited from Indian knowledge brought to England. >> >> The behavior of invaders of eastern world was the one of depredators, >> something that indians and chinese had left behind for centuries. >> >> The information is online. > > i.e. stuff posted by other nutters. Any references to work published by > real scientists in real journals? No. I didn't think so. None of those great ancient foreign civilisations' culture shows up in his writings, either. (Eg:) >> Do a little of research, fucking relativistic asshole. > -- guido wugi
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| From | RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-06 12:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <63219491-9485-4712-a7a2-910a6088db89n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #622529 |
On October 5, Richard Hertz wrote: > the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other > pirates who stole all the science from China and India, Especially Columbus, who stole science from the Indians, that he met when his ship landed in India, in 1492. > Western science is a fucking joke. The science of the Old West: https://dygtyjqp7pi0m.cloudfront.net/i/39418/33857141_1.jpg No joke, pal - -- Rich
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-06 16:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e031718a-c44f-4114-b2a8-bed779015960n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #622529 |
On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:55:31 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras > took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an > entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth. > > At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work > by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR > span of time. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118 > > BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other > pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years > before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in particular > mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other technologies, like > how to make paper, powder, etc. > > Western science is a fucking joke. 16 Significant Science and Tech Discoveries Ancient India Gave the World https://www.thebetterindia.com/63119/ancient-india-science-technology/ How the West stole Indian inventions, ideas & knowledge | Jeffrey Armstrong ji https://www.reddit.com/r/indianews/comments/p2tz7e/how_the_west_stole_indian_inventions_ideas/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_inventions_and_discoveries https://www.britannica.com/technology/history-of-technology/China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science_and_technology_in_China China and India were ahead of western STEM for more than 2,000 years. But they didn't want to conquer the West by force and use their resources (nothing that Europe could have in the dark ages) to finance their civilization. They were mostly territorial. Fucking britons, frenchies, dutch, spaniards and portuguese went out to deplete resources of the new world, after Colombus. European science, with very few exceptions, was close to NOTHING before 1492. Curiously, science and the rest of STEM, arts, etc., fluorished in Europe AFTER they started to conquer country after country in the rest of the world. And, ironically, it was the Chinese invention of the powder which facilitated the development of cannons, pistols, rifles, etc. West stole not only precious physical resources, but also intellectual resources as well. Now, the cretin westerners cry foul because China is striking back, without bloodshed. There is a circular development of global events, going back to the origin of the sources of wealth, science, technology and human development. Step by step, while the "collective West" is crumbling. Karma.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-10-14 09:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <koutp5Fk4ddU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #622529 |
Am 06.10.2023 um 01:55 schrieb Richard Hertz: > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras > took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an > entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth. > > At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work > by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR > span of time. I personally think, that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron' was submitted days befor the paper 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' and the date of submission was faked (by Planck). The reason: there was a relatively large gap between submission in june 1905 and printing in late 1905, which was unusual. And Einstein's text was seemingly inspired by Poincare's paper, hence had to be written after the paper of Poincare. This little time-gap could be easily fixed, but only by 'Annalen der Physik', hence by Planck himself. TH
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| From | Python <python@invalid.org> |
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| Date | 2023-10-14 14:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uge0lr$3rhi4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #622931 |
Le 14/10/2023 à 09:22, Thomas Heger a écrit : ... > I personally think, We don't care about what you think ; you are demented Thomas. > that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron' This is not the real title, this not even proper French. How come you *never* get the simplest thing right Thomas?
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-14 15:07 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <kovi4bFnrkjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #622934 |
On 2023-10-14 12:13:47 +0000, Python said: > Le 14/10/2023 à 09:22, Thomas Heger a écrit : > ... >> I personally think, > > We don't care about what you think ; you are demented Thomas. > >> that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron' > > This is not the real title, this not even proper French. This isn't the first time he has been told that. In my comment (written after yours, I fear, but I hadn't read far enough) I said he had made three errors, but actually it was four, because he wrote d' rather than de l'. > > How come you *never* get the simplest thing right Thomas? -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly in England until 1987.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-10-15 07:59 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <kp1d8oF3ffnU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #622937 |
Am 14.10.2023 um 15:07 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: > On 2023-10-14 12:13:47 +0000, Python said: > >> Le 14/10/2023 à 09:22, Thomas Heger a écrit : >> ... >>> I personally think, >> >> We don't care about what you think ; you are demented Thomas. >> >>> that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron' >> >> This is not the real title, this not even proper French. > > This isn't the first time he has been told that. In my comment (written > after yours, I fear, but I hadn't read far enough) I said he had made > three errors, but actually it was four, because he wrote d' rather than > de l'. I'm so sorry. But I had no French in school. Actually I'm trying to learn some French right now, but not with much success. I can decipher French texts to some extend, but I'm unable to write French without errors. TH
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-15 10:49 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <kp1nd3F55a4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #622970 |
On 2023-10-15 05:59:02 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > Am 14.10.2023 um 15:07 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >> On 2023-10-14 12:13:47 +0000, Python said: >> >>> Le 14/10/2023 à 09:22, Thomas Heger a écrit : >>> ... >>>> I personally think, >>> >>> We don't care about what you think ; you are demented Thomas. >>> >>>> that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron' >>> >>> This is not the real title, this not even proper French. >> >> This isn't the first time he has been told that. In my comment (written >> after yours, I fear, but I hadn't read far enough) I said he had made >> three errors, but actually it was four, because he wrote d' rather than >> de l'. > > I'm so sorry. But I had no French in school. What's that got to do with it? You can find out what Poincaré's paper was called by searching on the web. It takes abot 5 seconds. You can then copy-paste what you find. No knowledge of French is needed (though it helps). > > Actually I'm trying to learn some French right now, but not with much success. > > I can decipher French texts to some extend, but I'm unable to write > French without errors. > > TH -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly in England until 1987.
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-14 15:03 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Pythagoras, the first major plagiarist of babylonian math, 1000 years before. |
| Message-ID | <kovht8Fnqh7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #622931 |
On 2023-10-14 07:22:27 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > Am 06.10.2023 um 01:55 schrieb Richard Hertz: >> Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras >> took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an >> entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth. >> >> At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work >> by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR >> span of time. > > I personally think, that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron' was > submitted days befor the paper 'On the electrodynamics of moving > bodies' and the date of submission was faked (by Planck). What on earth does it matter what you personally think? If you want to be taken seriously you need to learn the title of Poincaré's paper. This has been pointed out to you before. Three mistakes in five words is too many (though you can probably be forgiven for omitting the accent from électron). > > The reason: there was a relatively large gap between submission in june > 1905 and printing in late 1905, which was unusual. > > And Einstein's text was seemingly inspired by Poincare's paper, hence > had to be written after the paper of Poincare. > > This little time-gap could be easily fixed, but only by 'Annalen der > Physik', hence by Planck himself. > > TH -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly in England until 1987.
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| From | "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-14 06:04 -0700 |
| Subject | Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work |
| Message-ID | <8e0ed91f-4146-49d8-ab4a-94be98db613bn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #622931 |
On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 12:20:08 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote: > Am 06.10.2023 um 01:55 schrieb Richard Hertz: > > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras > > took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an > > entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth. > > > > At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work > > by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR > > span of time. > I personally think, No one cares what you think, crank
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-10-15 08:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work |
| Message-ID | <kp1db7F3ffnU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #622936 |
Am 14.10.2023 um 15:04 schrieb Dono.: > On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 12:20:08 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am 06.10.2023 um 01:55 schrieb Richard Hertz: >>> Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras >>> took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an >>> entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth. >>> >>> At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work >>> by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR >>> span of time. >> I personally think, > > > No one cares what you think, crank > I do, hence you are wrong, because the set of people who care is not empty. TH
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| From | Reilies Bahmutov <orem@moeaueva.eb> |
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| Date | 2023-10-15 09:17 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work |
| Message-ID | <uggamk$355n8$3@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #622971 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > Am 14.10.2023 um 15:04 schrieb Dono.: >> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 12:20:08 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>> Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, >>>> Pythagoras took advantage of his position in ancient greek >>>> civilization to plagiarize an entire body of mathematics developed >>>> 1,000 years before his birth. At least, he had decency and dug into >>>> developments that preceded his work by a millennium. Einstein just >>>> plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR span of time. >>> I personally think, >> No one cares what you think, crank > > I do, hence you are wrong, because the set of people who care is not > empty. it looks like a burned-out fuse or something. Talk about the history of Barlin. In physics you know mostly nothing. Yes, 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗴𝗶𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘇𝗲, that's how physics works, today and anytime. The point is 𝘁𝗼_𝗮𝗱𝗱_𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 near what you plagiarize. when I add my "𝗢𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗴𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗠𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗞𝗼𝗲𝗿𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗠𝗼𝗱𝗲𝗹" to relativity, it's 𝗮𝗻_𝗮𝗱𝗱, not a take. Here you have capitalist america 2023. 𝗦𝘁𝘂𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀_𝗣𝗿𝗼𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁_𝗔𝗳𝘁𝗲𝗿_𝗠𝗲𝗻𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗮𝗹_𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝘁𝘀_𝗥𝗲𝗺𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗱_𝗙𝗿𝗼𝗺_𝗠𝗲𝗻’𝘀_𝗕𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗺𝘀 https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/students-protest-after-menstrual-products- removed-from-mens-bathrooms/ Even though men do not menstruate, Clemson university has been putting tampons in their restrooms. The move was to allow females, who identified as males, access to the feminine hygiene products when using the men’s […]
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-15 16:20 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work |
| Message-ID | <ughl2p$9l89$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #622979 |
On 10/15/2023 4:17 AM, Reilies Bahmutov wrote: > The point is 𝘁𝗼_𝗮𝗱𝗱_𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 near what you plagiarize. That's why I think you, Hanson, is just an "engineer." You're devoid of an individual's power of independent thinking. Understanding works of others is plagiarizing to you because an "engineer" never understands anything beyond its application potentials. Fuck off you "engineer"!
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-10-16 07:25 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work |
| Message-ID | <kp3vlfFhpouU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #623002 |
Am 15.10.2023 um 23:20 schrieb Physfitfreak: > On 10/15/2023 4:17 AM, Reilies Bahmutov wrote: >> The point is 𝘁𝗼_𝗮𝗱𝗱_𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 near what you plagiarize. > > > That's why I think you, Hanson, is just an "engineer." You're devoid of > an individual's power of independent thinking. Understanding works of > others is plagiarizing to you because an "engineer" never understands > anything beyond its application potentials. > Actually I'm an engineer, too. (physics is kind of a hobby for me). This has some advantages, because engineers are not part of the scientific community and have absolutely no idea about what the people involved in science do, when they are not doing science (e.g. when they go to a party or have a chat with their neighbors). This is why engineers can ONLY communicate about scientific topics with physicists and not about social life - for instance-, because they have absolutely no idea about 'scientific lifestyle'. This is actually a good thing, because it restricts communication to the relevant (scientific) topics, while leaving social issues like e.g. hirarchy in the acedemic community entirely ignored. Science itselve, on the other hand, is in most cases no real problem for an engineer, because they have been trained in these topics, too. So: engineers are better physicist then physicists themselves, because they are able to ignore, what should be ignored, because they don't know that in the first place. TH
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| From | Randale Babaitsev <bavv@bsrbiiva.va> |
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| Date | 2023-10-16 17:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work |
| Message-ID | <ugjqt4$39a56$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #623002 |
Physfitfreak wrote: > On 10/15/2023 4:17 AM, Reilies Bahmutov wrote: >> The point is 𝘁𝗼_𝗮𝗱𝗱_𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 near what you plagiarize. > > That's why I think you, Hanson, is just an "engineer." You're devoid of > an you uneducated, unskilled pile of shit, you don't even know what academia is. There are doctors and professors in engineers. A not engineer is not a scientist. Fucking stoopid. lol, 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗼𝗼𝗻_𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 my ass. The gay america still shit outdoors, back in their garden. 𝗡𝗔𝗦𝗔_𝗮𝘀𝗸𝗲𝗱_𝗜𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗮_𝘁𝗼_𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗹_𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺_𝗶𝘁𝘀_𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗻𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝘆_–_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗮𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗰𝘆_𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗲𝗳 A US delegation was impressed by the Chandrayaan-3 mission’s payload, ISRO head claims https://r%74.com/india/585049-india-lunar-mission-nasa/ Yeah, India should sell them its technology, as 𝗮𝗹𝗹_𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗡𝗮𝘇𝗶𝘀_𝗮𝘁_𝗡𝗔𝗦𝗔 are dead by now. Nice way to lure a BRICS member.
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-16 20:40 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Nazi shit eater crank Thomas Heger at work |
| Message-ID | <ugkomb$b495$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #623022 |
On 10/16/2023 12:12 PM, Randale Babaitsev wrote: > Physfitfreak wrote: > >> On 10/15/2023 4:17 AM, Reilies Bahmutov wrote: >>> The point is 𝘁𝗼_𝗮𝗱𝗱_𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 near what you plagiarize. >> >> That's why I think you, Hanson, is just an "engineer." You're devoid of >> an > > you uneducated, unskilled pile of shit, you don't even know what academia > is. There are doctors and professors in engineers. A not engineer is not a > scientist. Fucking stoopid. > > lol, 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗼𝗼𝗻_𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 my ass. The gay america still shit outdoors, back > in their garden. > Got your "engineer" ass in one glance, didn't I. You don't know how you shout "I'm just a fucking 'engineer' handmaid" when you step into where scientists gather. All that scientists need to do to notice that is to turn and see you have a white apron on you and a white funny looking "cook"s hat on, often with a mustache on the face where it doesn't belong. An "engineer" is a cook stepping into a room full of nutrition scientists. That easy to see!
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