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  Re: Reactionless motors for space travel, with mercury rails whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-06 19:43 -0500
    Re: Reactionless motors for space travel, with mercury rails whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-10 15:22 -0500
    Re: Reactionless motors for space travel, with mercury rails Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-10 13:57 -0700
      Re: Reactionless motors for space travel, with mercury rails whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-10 17:36 -0500
        Re: Reactionless motors for space travel, with mercury rails Jeffrey Rubard <theleasthappyfella@gmail.com> - 2023-08-11 09:10 -0700
          Re: Reactionless motors for space travel, with mercury rails whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-11 14:35 -0500
            Re: Reactionless motors for space travel, with mercury rails Jeffrey Rubard <theleasthappyfella@gmail.com> - 2023-08-12 08:40 -0700
              Re: Reactionless motors for space travel, with mercury rails whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-12 12:35 -0500
                Re: Reactionless motors for space travel, with mercury rails Jeffrey Rubard <theleasthappyfella@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 08:25 -0700

#616950 — Re: Reactionless motors for space travel, with mercury rails

On 8/6/2023 7:19 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 06-Aug-23 3:59 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 15:08:47 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 31-July-23 7:55 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Note my explanations in the text for this above post. "First testing
>>>> of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier
>>>> than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send
>>>> the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds.
>>> The video shows more or less constant velocity after a short period of
>>> acceleration. But even if the the acceleration were maintained, the
>>> current goes up with the voltage, and so does the acceleration. But the
>>> resulting velocity only goes up with the square root of the
>>> acceleration, and consequently only with the square root of the voltage.
>>
>> Wow, this beats Archiebabble for sure.
>>
>>>
>>> I'm rather doubtful of your hypersonic claim.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
> 
> I take it you don't understand the elementary physics involved.
> 
> Sylvia.

I don't know if you've followed Banerjee's posts over a longer
period of time, but a while back he admitted that he skipped
a lot of classes and even paid others to take exams for him,
so his actual exposure to the subject matter he propounds is
often just guesswork on his part. But bear in mind that he
reverts to having received the blessings of the appropriate
(according to his religion) gods and goddesses where it comes
to his alleged knowledge. That seems to work quite well with
his Indian and Pakistani Facebook friends, his fall back
criteria supporting his arrogance where it comes to his
being a self-proclaimed expert in any field he deems of
interest to him. Early in our discussions he acknowledged
he had been diagnosed a narcissist.

So long as he has his religious underpinnings and his "Facebook"
experts supporting him the only discussions available will
forever remain devoid of reasonability and logic under any
western standards. I withdrew from discussions with him for
such reasons. I harbor no animosity towards him while I
generally avoid commenting. I applaud your attempts to reason
with him but have no faith that they will accomplish anything.

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#617303

On 8/10/2023 10:35 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:41:32 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 11:17:51 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 10:43:18 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
>>>
>>> (after consuming lots of laxatives supplied by Archie)
>>>> I don't know if you've followed Banerjee's posts over a longer
>>>> period of time, but a while back he admitted that he skipped
>>>> a lot of classes and even paid others to take exams for him,
>>> I did skip some classes in IIT Kgp and IIT Delhi because I had to, but whodumbo is lying (what is new) when he writes that I paid others to take exams for me. As a liar, whodumbo is perfectly reliable, and in his way, quite funny. Makes me laugh.
>>>
>>> Best lie was about the slope of my garage shed. It had to be sloped, in order for the armature to roll down by gravity! !!! The moron Moroney, being just a moron and not such a liar, has his halwa tight on this, not even suggesting that I pushed the armature with one finger of mine.
>>>
>>> rotflw4pita
>>>
>>> I got a First Class Honours degree for my B.Tech. in Electronics and Electrical Communication Engineering from IIT Kharagpur in 1978, never failed a single subject.
>>> As I was elected the top student representative (Vice President of the Gymkhana) in 1977, I had extra responsibilities, so sometimes had to skip classes.
>>> I got M.Tech in Computer Science from the Mathematics Department of IIT Delhi in 1986, studying part time while working full time. As I was working full-time, I could not attend all the classes. Quite normal. For my thesis, I worked on a totally new area, "Information Systems based on Partial-Match Retrievals" which anticipated googling. My paper "A new method for partial match retrievals" was published in 1987 in US, my company paid for me to go there, and so all the wonders that followed. In this, and in many other areas.
>>>
>>> Anyway, my degrees have nothing to do with my inventions and discoveries relating to Internal Force Engines. My work experience in the top industrial research facilities in India and Australia mean much more.
>> More importantly, they have given me a small measure of financial independence allowing me to indulge my hobbies, such as revising the basics of physics.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Arindam Banerjee
> 
> Wider World: "Yeah, you never say that slur word. This guy is an f'in piece of work for sure, though."

I appreciate the sentiment but frankly I wouldn't give Banerjee
even that little bit of credit. He alters his stories to suit the
occasion as he understands the world through a jumbled brain.

But my main point in this posting isn't so much to criticize him
as it is to direct his, and all the other local cranks, attention
to a TV special available on you tube. Since the cranks have a
propensity to direct attention to their favorite "idol" of the
moment I thought I would return the favor as they seem to find
popular media presentations more informative than peer reviewed
journals and/or textbooks on subjects they claim to know better
than their teachers.

Arindam try this you tube presentation on for size. It addresses
a number of your contentions in language even you are capable
of understanding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dROkWymbkdo

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#617305

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 5:43:16 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 8/6/2023 7:19 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: 
> > On 06-Aug-23 3:59 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote: 
> >> On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 15:08:47 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote: 
> >>> On 31-July-23 7:55 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Note my explanations in the text for this above post. "First testing 
> >>>> of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier 
> >>>> than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send 
> >>>> the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds. 
> >>> The video shows more or less constant velocity after a short period of 
> >>> acceleration. But even if the the acceleration were maintained, the 
> >>> current goes up with the voltage, and so does the acceleration. But the 
> >>> resulting velocity only goes up with the square root of the 
> >>> acceleration, and consequently only with the square root of the voltage. 
> >> 
> >> Wow, this beats Archiebabble for sure. 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> I'm rather doubtful of your hypersonic claim. 
> >>> 
> >>> Sylvia. 
> > 
> > I take it you don't understand the elementary physics involved. 
> > 
> > Sylvia. 
> 
> I don't know if you've followed Banerjee's posts over a longer 
> period of time, but a while back he admitted that he skipped 
> a lot of classes and even paid others to take exams for him, 
> so his actual exposure to the subject matter he propounds is 
> often just guesswork on his part. But bear in mind that he 
> reverts to having received the blessings of the appropriate 
> (according to his religion) gods and goddesses where it comes 
> to his alleged knowledge. That seems to work quite well with 
> his Indian and Pakistani Facebook friends, his fall back 
> criteria supporting his arrogance where it comes to his 
> being a self-proclaimed expert in any field he deems of 
> interest to him. Early in our discussions he acknowledged 
> he had been diagnosed a narcissist. 
> 
> So long as he has his religious underpinnings and his "Facebook" 
> experts supporting him the only discussions available will 
> forever remain devoid of reasonability and logic under any 
> western standards. I withdrew from discussions with him for 
> such reasons. I harbor no animosity towards him while I 
> generally avoid commenting. I applaud your attempts to reason 
> with him but have no faith that they will accomplish anything.
The idea of advanced science in very ancient India is mainly supported by what is known as the "Roy" translation of the Mahabharata. This version was written after the discovery of the atomic bomb and devised to seem as if atomic power and airplanes were known in 3000 BCE, including "mercury vortex powered" vimanas.

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#617317

On 8/10/2023 3:57 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> The idea of advanced science in very ancient India is mainly supported by what is known as the "Roy" translation of the Mahabharata. This version was written after the discovery of the atomic bomb and devised to seem as if atomic power and airplanes were known in 3000 BCE, including "mercury vortex powered" vimanas.


More appropriate to be discussed at one of the highlighted
newsgroups at:

http://www.mit.edu/people/tgowrish/tgowrish/india_ngroups.html

Do you know what "physics" is?

"vimanas"

Vimāna are mythological flying palaces or chariots described in Hindu 
texts and Sanskrit epics. The "Pushpaka Vimana"...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimana

But then almost everything you've been posting here involves mythology
of one sort or another. That appears to be a crankish characteristic.

If you have Indian ancestry please take culturally related topics like
the above to one of the culturally appropriate newsgroups. Banerjee
keeps attempting to bring his Hindu gods and goddesses into sci.physics
and they're not happy with the prospects of standard western critique.

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#617373

On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:36:28 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 8/10/2023 3:57 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> 
> > The idea of advanced science in very ancient India is mainly supported by what is known as the "Roy" translation of the Mahabharata. This version was written after the discovery of the atomic bomb and devised to seem as if atomic power and airplanes were known in 3000 BCE, including "mercury vortex powered" vimanas.
> More appropriate to be discussed at one of the highlighted 
> newsgroups at: 
> 
> http://www.mit.edu/people/tgowrish/tgowrish/india_ngroups.html 
> 
> Do you know what "physics" is? 
> 
> "vimanas" 
> 
> Vimāna are mythological flying palaces or chariots described in Hindu 
> texts and Sanskrit epics. The "Pushpaka Vimana"... 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimana 
> 
> But then almost everything you've been posting here involves mythology 
> of one sort or another. That appears to be a crankish characteristic. 
> 
> If you have Indian ancestry please take culturally related topics like 
> the above to one of the culturally appropriate newsgroups. Banerjee 
> keeps attempting to bring his Hindu gods and goddesses into sci.physics 
> and they're not happy with the prospects of standard western critique.

Wider World: "Don't quite believe your interpretations of *Oppenheimer*. This kind of talk is absolutely pseudo-scientific, anti-scientific, and well-known as such. People who talk about the Vedas and science don't like Indians any better than they like science, either."

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#617398

On 8/11/2023 11:10 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:36:28 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>> On 8/10/2023 3:57 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>
>>> The idea of advanced science in very ancient India is mainly supported by what is known as the "Roy" translation of the Mahabharata. This version was written after the discovery of the atomic bomb and devised to seem as if atomic power and airplanes were known in 3000 BCE, including "mercury vortex powered" vimanas.
>> More appropriate to be discussed at one of the highlighted
>> newsgroups at:
>>
>> http://www.mit.edu/people/tgowrish/tgowrish/india_ngroups.html
>>
>> Do you know what "physics" is?
>>
>> "vimanas"
>>
>> Vimāna are mythological flying palaces or chariots described in Hindu
>> texts and Sanskrit epics. The "Pushpaka Vimana"...
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimana
>>
>> But then almost everything you've been posting here involves mythology
>> of one sort or another. That appears to be a crankish characteristic.
>>
>> If you have Indian ancestry please take culturally related topics like
>> the above to one of the culturally appropriate newsgroups. Banerjee
>> keeps attempting to bring his Hindu gods and goddesses into sci.physics
>> and they're not happy with the prospects of standard western critique.
> 
> Wider World: "Don't quite believe your interpretations of *Oppenheimer*. This kind of talk is absolutely pseudo-scientific, anti-scientific, and well-known as such. People who talk about the Vedas and science don't like Indians any better than they like science, either."

Not worthy of thoughtful response. Learn something
about the formal fallacies. Anything would be helpful.
Even if you learn something wrong it would be much
better than where you are now.

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#617453

On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:36:10 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 8/11/2023 11:10 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:36:28 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> >> On 8/10/2023 3:57 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> The idea of advanced science in very ancient India is mainly supported by what is known as the "Roy" translation of the Mahabharata. This version was written after the discovery of the atomic bomb and devised to seem as if atomic power and airplanes were known in 3000 BCE, including "mercury vortex powered" vimanas. 
> >> More appropriate to be discussed at one of the highlighted 
> >> newsgroups at: 
> >> 
> >> http://www.mit.edu/people/tgowrish/tgowrish/india_ngroups.html 
> >> 
> >> Do you know what "physics" is? 
> >> 
> >> "vimanas" 
> >> 
> >> Vimāna are mythological flying palaces or chariots described in Hindu 
> >> texts and Sanskrit epics. The "Pushpaka Vimana"... 
> >> 
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimana 
> >> 
> >> But then almost everything you've been posting here involves mythology 
> >> of one sort or another. That appears to be a crankish characteristic. 
> >> 
> >> If you have Indian ancestry please take culturally related topics like 
> >> the above to one of the culturally appropriate newsgroups. Banerjee 
> >> keeps attempting to bring his Hindu gods and goddesses into sci.physics 
> >> and they're not happy with the prospects of standard western critique. 
> > 
> > Wider World: "Don't quite believe your interpretations of *Oppenheimer*. This kind of talk is absolutely pseudo-scientific, anti-scientific, and well-known as such. People who talk about the Vedas and science don't like Indians any better than they like science, either."
> Not worthy of thoughtful response. Learn something 
> about the formal fallacies. Anything would be helpful. 
> Even if you learn something wrong it would be much 
> better than where you are now.

"Do you suppose your words are moronic, or submoronic?" - Yeah, We Don't Use That Word Ed.

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#617462

On 8/12/2023 10:40 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:36:10 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>> On 8/11/2023 11:10 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:36:28 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/2023 3:57 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The idea of advanced science in very ancient India is mainly supported by what is known as the "Roy" translation of the Mahabharata. This version was written after the discovery of the atomic bomb and devised to seem as if atomic power and airplanes were known in 3000 BCE, including "mercury vortex powered" vimanas.
>>>> More appropriate to be discussed at one of the highlighted
>>>> newsgroups at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mit.edu/people/tgowrish/tgowrish/india_ngroups.html
>>>>
>>>> Do you know what "physics" is?
>>>>
>>>> "vimanas"
>>>>
>>>> Vimāna are mythological flying palaces or chariots described in Hindu
>>>> texts and Sanskrit epics. The "Pushpaka Vimana"...
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimana
>>>>
>>>> But then almost everything you've been posting here involves mythology
>>>> of one sort or another. That appears to be a crankish characteristic.
>>>>
>>>> If you have Indian ancestry please take culturally related topics like
>>>> the above to one of the culturally appropriate newsgroups. Banerjee
>>>> keeps attempting to bring his Hindu gods and goddesses into sci.physics
>>>> and they're not happy with the prospects of standard western critique.
>>>
>>> Wider World: "Don't quite believe your interpretations of *Oppenheimer*. This kind of talk is absolutely pseudo-scientific, anti-scientific, and well-known as such. People who talk about the Vedas and science don't like Indians any better than they like science, either."

>> Not worthy of thoughtful response. Learn something
>> about the formal fallacies. Anything would be helpful.
>> Even if you learn something wrong it would be much
>> better than where you are now.
> 
> "Do you suppose your words are moronic, or submoronic?" - Yeah, We Don't Use That Word Ed.

ibid

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#617562

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 8/12/2023 10:40 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:36:10 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> >> On 8/11/2023 11:10 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> >>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:36:28 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote: 
> >>>> On 8/10/2023 3:57 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> The idea of advanced science in very ancient India is mainly supported by what is known as the "Roy" translation of the Mahabharata. This version was written after the discovery of the atomic bomb and devised to seem as if atomic power and airplanes were known in 3000 BCE, including "mercury vortex powered" vimanas. 
> >>>> More appropriate to be discussed at one of the highlighted 
> >>>> newsgroups at: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.mit.edu/people/tgowrish/tgowrish/india_ngroups.html 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Do you know what "physics" is? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> "vimanas" 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Vimāna are mythological flying palaces or chariots described in Hindu 
> >>>> texts and Sanskrit epics. The "Pushpaka Vimana"... 
> >>>> 
> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimana 
> >>>> 
> >>>> But then almost everything you've been posting here involves mythology 
> >>>> of one sort or another. That appears to be a crankish characteristic. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> If you have Indian ancestry please take culturally related topics like 
> >>>> the above to one of the culturally appropriate newsgroups. Banerjee 
> >>>> keeps attempting to bring his Hindu gods and goddesses into sci.physics 
> >>>> and they're not happy with the prospects of standard western critique. 
> >>> 
> >>> Wider World: "Don't quite believe your interpretations of *Oppenheimer*. This kind of talk is absolutely pseudo-scientific, anti-scientific, and well-known as such. People who talk about the Vedas and science don't like Indians any better than they like science, either." 
> 
> >> Not worthy of thoughtful response. Learn something 
> >> about the formal fallacies. Anything would be helpful. 
> >> Even if you learn something wrong it would be much 
> >> better than where you are now. 
> > 
> > "Do you suppose your words are moronic, or submoronic?" - Yeah, We Don't Use That Word Ed.
> ibid

"What does that mean to you?"

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