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The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.

Started byJane <Jane@home.com>
First post2023-04-19 04:05 +0000
Last post2023-05-10 14:17 -0700
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  The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-19 04:05 +0000
    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-04-18 22:05 -0700
      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-04-21 13:19 -0700
    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-19 10:07 +0200
      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-19 16:14 +0000
        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-19 19:37 +0200
        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-19 17:51 -0500
          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-20 10:30 +0200
            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-04-20 01:56 -0700
    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-04-19 22:23 +1000
      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-19 16:08 +0000
        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-04-20 08:46 +1000
          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-04-19 17:25 -0700
            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-04-29 09:46 +1000
              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-28 19:04 -0500
                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-01 00:04 +0000
                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-30 23:15 -0500
                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-05-01 14:29 +1000
                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-30 23:40 -0500
                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-05-01 14:44 +1000
                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-01 00:30 -0500
        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-04-21 13:21 -0700
    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-04-19 06:23 -0700
      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-19 16:02 +0000
        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-04-19 09:54 -0700
          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-20 10:50 +0000
        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-04-19 11:06 -0700
          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-04-19 11:43 -0700
            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-04-19 14:49 -0700
          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-04-19 15:13 -0700
            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-20 10:56 +0000
              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-04-20 05:57 -0700
              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-04-20 06:06 -0700
              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-04-20 17:33 -0700
                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-04-20 21:34 -0700
                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-04-21 05:10 -0700
                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-04-21 06:12 -0700
                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-21 12:29 +0000
                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-04-21 06:20 -0700
                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "gehan.am...@gmail.com" <gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com> - 2023-04-21 07:08 -0700
                      Mask falls off the face of hardened crank Amrit Gehan "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 07:04 -0700
              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "gehan.am...@gmail.com" <gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com> - 2023-04-21 02:07 -0700
                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-22 00:23 +0000
                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-21 22:52 -0500
                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-22 09:48 +0000
                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-22 09:17 -0500
                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 08:15 -0700
                          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-22 12:08 -0500
                            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 10:26 -0700
                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-24 12:01 +0200
                          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 11:00 -0700
                            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "gehan.am...@gmail.com" <gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 17:55 -0700
                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 18:27 -0700
                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 19:31 -0700
                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 22:23 -0700
                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 23:16 -0700
                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-04-23 07:02 -0700
                                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-04-23 08:40 -0700
                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-23 14:30 +0200
                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-26 17:24 +0000
                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-22 15:33 +0200
                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-24 00:17 +0000
                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-04-24 01:58 -0700
                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-25 00:53 +0000
                          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-04-24 18:18 -0700
                            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-25 17:56 -0500
                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-26 11:11 -0400
                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-04-26 08:34 -0700
                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-26 13:20 -0500
                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-26 19:21 +0000
                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-26 21:21 -0500
                                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-28 02:29 +0000
                                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-27 23:08 -0500
                                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-28 13:47 +0000
                                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-04-28 07:39 -0700
                                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-04-28 09:29 -0700
                                          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-28 22:09 +0200
                                          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-28 16:51 -0500
                                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-28 00:37 -0500
                                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-28 07:21 +0000
                                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-28 16:01 -0500
                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-04-27 10:33 -0700
                                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-28 02:19 +0000
                                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-04-28 10:37 -0700
                                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-28 16:47 -0500
                                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-30 23:57 +0000
                                          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-30 23:01 -0500
                                            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-04 20:50 +0000
                                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-04 16:51 -0500
                                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-06 00:06 +0000
                                                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-05 21:54 -0500
                                                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-07 00:51 +0000
                                                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-06 21:54 -0500
                                                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-08 02:44 +0000
                                                          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-07 23:48 -0500
                                                            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-08 23:22 +0000
                                                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-05-08 20:08 -0700
                                                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-10 04:37 +0000
                                                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-08 22:54 -0500
                                                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-10 04:45 +0000
                                                                  Uncle Jane Discusses Science (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-10 00:24 -0500
                                                                  Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-10 02:11 -0500
                                                                    Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-10 23:57 +0000
                                                                      Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-11 14:06 -0500
                                                                        Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-11 23:35 +0000
                                                                          Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-11 20:16 -0500
                                                                            Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-15 00:34 +0000
                                                                              Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-14 22:38 -0500
                                                                                Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-16 02:01 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-16 00:57 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-16 06:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-16 12:57 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-17 22:57 +0000
                                                                                          Uncle Jane's Dementia (was Re: Uncle Jane dodges the issues (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity.) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-17 19:20 -0500
                                                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-05-09 22:01 -0700
                                                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-05-09 22:05 -0700
                                                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-05-09 22:22 -0700
                                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-05-04 21:24 -0500
                                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-05-04 22:36 -0700
                                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-05-04 23:26 -0700
                                                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-05-04 23:41 -0700
                                                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-06 00:07 +0000
                                                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-05-05 18:39 -0700
                                                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-05-05 23:19 -0700
                                                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-05 21:56 -0500
                                                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-05-05 20:04 -0700
                                                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-05-05 20:03 -0700
                                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-05-05 19:59 -0700
                                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-07 00:59 +0000
                                                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-06 21:57 -0500
                                                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-08 02:51 +0000
                                                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-08 00:02 -0500
                                                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-05-07 20:06 -0700
                            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-04-27 20:22 -0700
                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-04-27 23:06 -0700
                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-28 07:28 +0000
                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-04-28 07:34 -0700
                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-28 16:03 -0500
                                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Evenezer Nigro <veor@rnigeern.ne> - 2023-04-28 21:18 +0000
                                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-28 17:26 -0500
                                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Evenezer Nigro <veor@rnigeern.ne> - 2023-04-28 22:31 +0000
                                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-28 18:39 -0500
                          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-04-24 20:38 -0700
                            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-26 18:37 +0000
                          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-04-25 17:00 +0300
                            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-04-25 11:56 -0700
                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-24 12:01 +0200
                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-25 01:19 +0000
                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-24 08:36 -0500
                        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-24 13:10 -0400
                          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-25 10:28 +0200
                            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-04-25 02:06 -0700
                              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-25 11:30 +0200
                                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-04-25 02:38 -0700
                                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-25 13:39 +0200
                              Railway puzzle   (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-25 11:49 +0200
                                Re: Railway puzzle (was Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein) Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-04-25 03:11 -0700
                                  Re: Railway puzzle nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-25 13:39 +0200
                                    Re: Railway puzzle Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-04-25 05:19 -0700
                                      Re: Railway puzzle nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-25 23:30 +0200
                                        Re: Railway puzzle Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-25 22:12 -0400
                                          Re: Railway puzzle whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-25 22:23 -0500
                                            Re: Railway puzzle Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-26 18:50 +0000
                                              Re: Railway puzzle nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-27 09:15 +0200
                                                Re: Railway puzzle Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-28 02:53 +0000
                                                  Re: Railway puzzle RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-04-28 10:43 -0700
                                                  Re: Railway puzzle nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-28 22:09 +0200
                                                    Re: Railway puzzle "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-04-28 15:53 -0700
                                                      Re: Railway puzzle Evenezer Nigro <veor@rnigeern.ne> - 2023-04-30 16:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Railway puzzle nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-05-07 13:34 +0200
                                                    Re: Railway puzzle RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-04-29 10:55 -0700
                                                      Re: Railway puzzle "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-04-29 11:09 -0700
                                                      Re: Railway puzzle nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-29 21:27 +0200
                                                        Re: Railway puzzle Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-29 19:01 -0400
                                                          Re: Railway puzzle Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-04-30 11:11 +0200
                                              Re: Railway puzzle RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-04-27 15:20 -0700
                                                Re: Railway puzzle nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-28 14:18 +0200
                                            Re: Railway puzzle nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-29 14:38 +0200
                                          Re: Railway puzzle nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-26 23:15 +0200
                          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Tommy Africani <ffci@tiacyctm.mo> - 2023-04-26 13:39 +0000
                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2023-04-24 12:44 +0300
                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-04-24 17:44 +0200
                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-04-24 13:20 -0400
    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-04-21 12:59 -0700
      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-22 00:31 +0000
        Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-04-21 17:49 -0700
          Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "gehan.am...@gmail.com" <gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com> - 2023-04-21 23:43 -0700
            Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-22 09:42 +0000
              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "gehan.am...@gmail.com" <gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 03:30 -0700
              Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 07:01 -0700
                Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-24 00:19 +0000
                  Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-24 08:37 -0500
                    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-04-25 01:21 +0000
                      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-25 17:41 -0500
    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-05-06 18:01 -0700
      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-05-06 18:59 -0700
      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-06 22:36 -0500
      Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-10 04:33 +0000
    Re: The Experiment that Resccued Einstein from Obscurity. carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-05-10 14:17 -0700

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#608313

FromMikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
Date2023-04-24 12:44 +0300
Message-ID<u25j2c$9ot5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#608123
On 2023-04-22 00:23:24 +0000, Jane said:

> Seeing you mentioned that topic, have you ever worked out how long it
> will take for the Earth to stop spinning because of the harnessing of
> wind power? Not many people would know that wind energy comes mainly from
> the Earth's rotation with relatively little from the sun.

In years 2011..2016 there were three leap seconds.
In years 2017..2022 there were no leap secons.
This shows that Earth is spinning faster than before.

Over longer periods Earth's rotation has been observed to slow down.
Estimated time of the stooping of the rotation is about the time of
Sun's helim flash.

Mikko

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#608334

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2023-04-24 17:44 +0200
Message-ID<1q9p3ki.xmnk92zwj116N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#608313
Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote:

> On 2023-04-22 00:23:24 +0000, Jane said:
> 
> > Seeing you mentioned that topic, have you ever worked out how long it
> > will take for the Earth to stop spinning because of the harnessing of
> > wind power? Not many people would know that wind energy comes mainly from
> > the Earth's rotation with relatively little from the sun.
> 
> In years 2011..2016 there were three leap seconds.
> In years 2017..2022 there were no leap secons.
> This shows that Earth is spinning faster than before.

But nothing out of the ordinary.
The rotation rate of the Earth has always been fluctuating.

> Over longer periods Earth's rotation has been observed to slow down.
> Estimated time of the stooping of the rotation is about the time of
> Sun's helim flash.

It is really quite impossible to accurately estimate this,
for it will depend on the distribution of the land masses
in the far future.
The present relatively rapid spin-down is not representative
for geological history as a whole.

Save rotation! Continents Unite!

Jan


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#608339

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-04-24 13:20 -0400
Message-ID<u26dol$duj2$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#608334
On 4/24/2023 11:44 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote:
> 
>> On 2023-04-22 00:23:24 +0000, Jane said:
>>
>>> Seeing you mentioned that topic, have you ever worked out how long it
>>> will take for the Earth to stop spinning because of the harnessing of
>>> wind power? Not many people would know that wind energy comes mainly from
>>> the Earth's rotation with relatively little from the sun.
>>
>> In years 2011..2016 there were three leap seconds.
>> In years 2017..2022 there were no leap secons.
>> This shows that Earth is spinning faster than before.
> 
> But nothing out of the ordinary.
> The rotation rate of the Earth has always been fluctuating.
> 
>> Over longer periods Earth's rotation has been observed to slow down.
>> Estimated time of the stooping of the rotation is about the time of
>> Sun's helim flash.
> 
> It is really quite impossible to accurately estimate this,
> for it will depend on the distribution of the land masses
> in the far future.
> The present relatively rapid spin-down is not representative
> for geological history as a whole.
> 
> Save rotation! Continents Unite!

I've read somewhere* that the sensitivity measuring earth's rotation 
period over a period of a year is enough that they can detect snowpack 
in the northern hemisphere as well as when trees leaf out/lose leaves in 
the northern hemisphere. (both effects have mass further from earth's 
rotational axis and are greater than the same in the southern hemisphere)

(*) I often hear/remember trivia/facts but not the source, so don't ask 
me for proof/evidence. I may or may not be correct. Google may be helpful.

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#608109

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-04-21 12:59 -0700
Message-ID<f5dba83b-6c3f-4220-a461-4d98d036304dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#607821
On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05:21 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
> By 1913, the scientific world had virtually forgotten about the radical 
> theory of relativity proposed by a little known Physicist called Albert 
> Einstein. The theory appeared to be nothing more than a rehash of the 
> ideas put forward by Lorentz, Poincare and others in their attempts to 
> retain the notion of an absolute reference frame. There was much argument 
> and experimentation directed at sorting out fact from fiction. 
> 
> That year, Albert Michelson, a highly regarded physicist, performed an 
> experiment that would hopefully reveal whether light reflected from a 
> moving mirror at c or at its incident speed in the mirror frame, c+v, 
> (c+2v in the source frame). The experiment is described here. 
> https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/ 
> Effect_of_Reflection_from_a_Moving_Mirror_on_the_Velocity_of_Light 
> 
> His interpretation was a complete farce and whilst claiming to refute 
> Newton actually does the opposite, It refutes Einstein's SR. I will 
> explain why when people here have studied it. 
> I cannot believe that Michelson did not know what he was doing. The 
> experiment was obviously a hoax designed purely to prop up Einstein's 
> SR...and it worked for quite a while. Nobody would have the courage to 
> disagree with Michelson even though his mistake was blatantly obvious. 
> Many other experiments of similar nature followed and all suffer from the 
> same error. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> -- lover of truth
Michelson was inclined to find an ether so he wouldn't be propping up SR.

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#608124

FromJane <Jane@home.com>
Date2023-04-22 00:31 +0000
Message-ID<17581a654f950b8b$2$270558$11d39bdb@news.newsgroupdirect.com>
In reply to#608109
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 12:59:20 -0700, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05:21 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:

>> That year, Albert Michelson, a highly regarded physicist, performed an

>> 
>> His interpretation was a complete farce and whilst claiming to refute
>> Newton actually does the opposite, It refutes Einstein's SR. I will
>> explain why when people here have studied it.
>> I cannot believe that Michelson did not know what he was doing. The
>> experiment was obviously a hoax designed purely to prop up Einstein's
>> SR...and it worked for quite a while. Nobody would have the courage to
>> disagree with Michelson even though his mistake was blatantly obvious.
>> Many other experiments of similar nature followed and all suffer from
>> the same error.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> -- lover of truth

> Michelson was inclined to find an ether so he wouldn't be propping up
> SR.

SR is pure ether theory. The ether is what unifies light speeds from 
differently moving sources. It isn't mentioned because its role is stated 
as a postulate. Without an absolute frame, the LTs would not operate in a 
way that would create observer speed irrelevant.





-- 
-- lover of truth

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#608126

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-04-21 17:49 -0700
Message-ID<032c7e1c-27fb-4400-affa-6b4c8b9b34edn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#608124
On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 5:31:25 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 12:59:20 -0700, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> 
> > On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05:21 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote: 
> 
> >> That year, Albert Michelson, a highly regarded physicist, performed an 
> 
> >>
> >> His interpretation was a complete farce and whilst claiming to refute 
> >> Newton actually does the opposite, It refutes Einstein's SR. I will 
> >> explain why when people here have studied it. 
> >> I cannot believe that Michelson did not know what he was doing. The 
> >> experiment was obviously a hoax designed purely to prop up Einstein's 
> >> SR...and it worked for quite a while. Nobody would have the courage to 
> >> disagree with Michelson even though his mistake was blatantly obvious. 
> >> Many other experiments of similar nature followed and all suffer from 
> >> the same error. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> -- lover of truth 
> 
> > Michelson was inclined to find an ether so he wouldn't be propping up 
> > SR.
> SR is pure ether theory. The ether is what unifies light speeds from 
> differently moving sources. It isn't mentioned because its role is stated 
> as a postulate. Without an absolute frame, the LTs would not operate in a 
> way that would create observer speed irrelevant.
> -- 
> -- lover of truth
An absolute frame is different from an ether because it has no ether wind. The MMX was to test for that wind.  It is not ether theory. The absolute frame is a denial of Galileo's shared velocity with the source.

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#608150

From"gehan.am...@gmail.com" <gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com>
Date2023-04-21 23:43 -0700
Message-ID<cbd260be-6d68-4d39-960c-a750ca014d2cn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#608126
On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 5:49:08 AM UTC+5, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 5:31:25 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote: 
> > On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 12:59:20 -0700, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > 
> > > On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05:21 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote: 
> > 
> > >> That year, Albert Michelson, a highly regarded physicist, performed an 
> > 
> > >> 
> > >> His interpretation was a complete farce and whilst claiming to refute 
> > >> Newton actually does the opposite, It refutes Einstein's SR. I will 
> > >> explain why when people here have studied it. 
> > >> I cannot believe that Michelson did not know what he was doing. The 
> > >> experiment was obviously a hoax designed purely to prop up Einstein's 
> > >> SR...and it worked for quite a while. Nobody would have the courage to 
> > >> disagree with Michelson even though his mistake was blatantly obvious. 
> > >> Many other experiments of similar nature followed and all suffer from 
> > >> the same error. 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> -- 
> > >> -- lover of truth 
> > 
> > > Michelson was inclined to find an ether so he wouldn't be propping up 
> > > SR. 
> > SR is pure ether theory. The ether is what unifies light speeds from 
> > differently moving sources. It isn't mentioned because its role is stated 
> > as a postulate. Without an absolute frame, the LTs would not operate in a 
> > way that would create observer speed irrelevant. 
> > -- 
> > -- lover of truth
> An absolute frame is different from an ether because it has no ether wind. The MMX was to test for that wind. It is not ether theory. The absolute frame is a denial of Galileo's shared velocity with the source.

I have been trying to figure out the absolute frame from the 'co-moving' frame.  If a geocentric model establishes absolute space, what about a 'stellar-centric' frame?  How fast could the stars be moving?  How about an universe-centric frame?

How about defining an universal coordinate system that is moving as slowly as we know, as x0, y0, z0 and assume that it is translating with velocities Vx, Vy, Vz with respect to a the absolute universal frame at xU, yU, zU?



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#608152

FromJane <Jane@home.com>
Date2023-04-22 09:42 +0000
Message-ID<1758387233fd49c1$1$406094$4bd3c1de@news.newsgroupdirect.com>
In reply to#608150
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 23:43:02 -0700 (PDT), gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 5:49:08 AM UTC+5, Laurence Clark Crossen
> wrote:
>> On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 5:31:25 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
>> > On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 12:59:20 -0700, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>> > 
>> > > On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05:21 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
>> > 
>> > >> That year, Albert Michelson, a highly regarded physicist,
>> > >> performed an
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >> His interpretation was a complete farce and whilst claiming to
>> > >> refute Newton actually does the opposite, It refutes Einstein's
>> > >> SR. I will explain why when people here have studied it.
>> > >> I cannot believe that Michelson did not know what he was doing.
>> > >> The experiment was obviously a hoax designed purely to prop up
>> > >> Einstein's SR...and it worked for quite a while. Nobody would have
>> > >> the courage to disagree with Michelson even though his mistake was
>> > >> blatantly obvious.
>> > >> Many other experiments of similar nature followed and all suffer
>> > >> from the same error.
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> 
>> > >> --
>> > >> -- lover of truth
>> > 
>> > > Michelson was inclined to find an ether so he wouldn't be propping
>> > > up SR.
>> > SR is pure ether theory. The ether is what unifies light speeds from
>> > differently moving sources. It isn't mentioned because its role is
>> > stated as a postulate. Without an absolute frame, the LTs would not
>> > operate in a way that would create observer speed irrelevant.
>> > --
>> > -- lover of truth
>> An absolute frame is different from an ether because it has no ether
>> wind. The MMX was to test for that wind. It is not ether theory. The
>> absolute frame is a denial of Galileo's shared velocity with the
>> source.

The MMX was a test for any kind of absoluteness. It was intended to maesure 
the Earth's speed in a supposed absolute frame. 
 
> I have been trying to figure out the absolute frame from the 'co-moving'
> frame.  If a geocentric model establishes absolute space, what about a
> 'stellar-centric' frame?  How fast could the stars be moving?  How about
> an universe-centric frame?

The 'fixed stars' constitute a pretty good reference for astronomical 
observations.    

> How about defining an universal coordinate system that is moving as
> slowly as we know, as x0, y0, z0 and assume that it is translating with
> velocities Vx, Vy, Vz with respect to a the absolute universal frame at
> xU, yU, zU?

Nah! There can be no absoluteness of any kind. 







-- 
-- lover of truth

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#608156

From"gehan.am...@gmail.com" <gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com>
Date2023-04-22 03:30 -0700
Message-ID<e165f99e-61f8-4e0e-80ca-f9edfdb589d4n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#608152
On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 2:42:07 PM UTC+5, Jane wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 23:43:02 -0700 (PDT), gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> > On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 5:49:08 AM UTC+5, Laurence Clark Crossen 
> > wrote: 
> >> On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 5:31:25 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote: 
> >> > On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 12:59:20 -0700, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > > On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05:21 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > >> That year, Albert Michelson, a highly regarded physicist, 
>..
> > How about defining an universal coordinate system that is moving as 
> > slowly as we know, as x0, y0, z0 and assume that it is translating with 
> > velocities Vx, Vy, Vz with respect to a the absolute universal frame at 
> > xU, yU, zU?
> Nah! There can be no absoluteness of any kind.
> -- 
> -- lover of truth


Are you saying the concept of absolute motion never made sense even in a geocentric system?

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#608166

From"Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com>
Date2023-04-22 07:01 -0700
Message-ID<811ff35c-1e94-4391-b373-d6e525c74759n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#608152
On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 2:42:07 AM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 23:43:02 -0700 (PDT), gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> > On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 5:49:08 AM UTC+5, Laurence Clark Crossen 
> > wrote: 
> >> On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 5:31:25 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote: 
> >> > On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 12:59:20 -0700, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > > On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05:21 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > >> That year, Albert Michelson, a highly regarded physicist, 
> >> > >> performed an 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > >> His interpretation was a complete farce and whilst claiming to 
> >> > >> refute Newton actually does the opposite, It refutes Einstein's 
> >> > >> SR. I will explain why when people here have studied it. 
> >> > >> I cannot believe that Michelson did not know what he was doing. 
> >> > >> The experiment was obviously a hoax designed purely to prop up 
> >> > >> Einstein's SR...and it worked for quite a while. Nobody would have 
> >> > >> the courage to disagree with Michelson even though his mistake was 
> >> > >> blatantly obvious. 
> >> > >> Many other experiments of similar nature followed and all suffer 
> >> > >> from the same error. 
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> -- 
> >> > >> -- lover of truth 
> >> > 
> >> > > Michelson was inclined to find an ether so he wouldn't be propping 
> >> > > up SR. 
> >> > SR is pure ether theory. The ether is what unifies light speeds from 
> >> > differently moving sources. It isn't mentioned because its role is 
> >> > stated as a postulate. Without an absolute frame, the LTs would not 
> >> > operate in a way that would create observer speed irrelevant. 
> >> > -- 
> >> > -- lover of truth 
> >> An absolute frame is different from an ether because it has no ether 
> >> wind. The MMX was to test for that wind. It is not ether theory. The 
> >> absolute frame is a denial of Galileo's shared velocity with the 
> >> source.
> The MMX was a test for any kind of absoluteness. It was intended to maesure 
> the Earth's speed in a supposed absolute frame.
> > I have been trying to figure out the absolute frame from the 'co-moving' 
> > frame. If a geocentric model establishes absolute space, what about a 
> > 'stellar-centric' frame? How fast could the stars be moving? How about 
> > an universe-centric frame?
> The 'fixed stars' constitute a pretty good reference for astronomical 
> observations.
> > How about defining an universal coordinate system that is moving as 
> > slowly as we know, as x0, y0, z0 and assume that it is translating with 
> > velocities Vx, Vy, Vz with respect to a the absolute universal frame at 
> > xU, yU, zU?
> Nah! There can be no absoluteness of any kind.
> -- 
Kookfight

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#608289

FromJane <Jane@home.com>
Date2023-04-24 00:19 +0000
Message-ID<1758b6ec97fae8d9$1$746483$4dd3c7de@news.newsgroupdirect.com>
In reply to#608166
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:01:02 -0700, Dono. wrote:

> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 2:42:07 AM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 23:43:02 -0700 (PDT), gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The 'fixed stars' constitute a pretty good reference for astronomical
>> observations.
>> > How about defining an universal coordinate system that is moving as
>> > slowly as we know, as x0, y0, z0 and assume that it is translating
>> > with velocities Vx, Vy, Vz with respect to a the absolute universal
>> > frame at xU, yU, zU?
>> Nah! There can be no absoluteness of any kind.
>> --
> Kookfight

Moron moans





-- 
-- lover of truth

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#608328

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-04-24 08:37 -0500
Message-ID<kanf04Fd3tmU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#608289
On 4/23/2023 7:19 PM, Jane wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:01:02 -0700, Dono. wrote:
> 
>> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 2:42:07 AM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 23:43:02 -0700 (PDT), gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The 'fixed stars' constitute a pretty good reference for astronomical
>>> observations.
>>>> How about defining an universal coordinate system that is moving as
>>>> slowly as we know, as x0, y0, z0 and assume that it is translating
>>>> with velocities Vx, Vy, Vz with respect to a the absolute universal
>>>> frame at xU, yU, zU?
>>> Nah! There can be no absoluteness of any kind.
>>> --
>> Kookfight
> 
> Moron moans

What a great self-descriptive!

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#608391

FromJane <Jane@home.com>
Date2023-04-25 01:21 +0000
Message-ID<175908e06fcf6871$3$3048414$13d399db@news.newsgroupdirect.com>
In reply to#608328
On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 08:37:06 -0500, whodat wrote:

>>>
>>>> The 'fixed stars' constitute a pretty good reference for astronomical
>>>> observations.
>>>>> How about defining an universal coordinate system that is moving as
>>>>> slowly as we know, as x0, y0, z0 and assume that it is translating
>>>>> with velocities Vx, Vy, Vz with respect to a the absolute universal
>>>>> frame at xU, yU, zU?
>>>> Nah! There can be no absoluteness of any kind.
>>>> --
>>> Kookfight
>> 
>> Moron moans
> 
> What a great self-descriptive!

Another moron moans





-- 
-- lover of truth

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#608494

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-04-25 17:41 -0500
Message-ID<kar38rFuc9tU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#608391
On 4/24/2023 8:21 PM, Jane wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 08:37:06 -0500, whodat wrote:
> 
>>>>
>>>>> The 'fixed stars' constitute a pretty good reference for astronomical
>>>>> observations.
>>>>>> How about defining an universal coordinate system that is moving as
>>>>>> slowly as we know, as x0, y0, z0 and assume that it is translating
>>>>>> with velocities Vx, Vy, Vz with respect to a the absolute universal
>>>>>> frame at xU, yU, zU?
>>>>> Nah! There can be no absoluteness of any kind.
>>>>> --
>>>> Kookfight
>>>
>>> Moron moans
>>
>> What a great self-descriptive!
> 
> Another moron moans

ibid.

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#609906

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-05-06 18:01 -0700
Message-ID<be30d0a1-d315-49d7-9c66-62ff182509dfn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#607821
On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05:21 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
> By 1913, the scientific world had virtually forgotten about the radical 
> theory of relativity proposed by a little known Physicist called Albert 
> Einstein. The theory appeared to be nothing more than a rehash of the 
> ideas put forward by Lorentz, Poincare and others in their attempts to 
> retain the notion of an absolute reference frame. There was much argument 
> and experimentation directed at sorting out fact from fiction. 
> 
> That year, Albert Michelson, a highly regarded physicist, performed an 
> experiment that would hopefully reveal whether light reflected from a 
> moving mirror at c or at its incident speed in the mirror frame, c+v, 
> (c+2v in the source frame). The experiment is described here. 
> https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/ 
> Effect_of_Reflection_from_a_Moving_Mirror_on_the_Velocity_of_Light 
> 
> His interpretation was a complete farce and whilst claiming to refute 
> Newton actually does the opposite, It refutes Einstein's SR. I will 
> explain why when people here have studied it. 
> I cannot believe that Michelson did not know what he was doing. The 
> experiment was obviously a hoax designed purely to prop up Einstein's 
> SR...and it worked for quite a while. Nobody would have the courage to 
> disagree with Michelson even though his mistake was blatantly obvious. 
> Many other experiments of similar nature followed and all suffer from the 
> same error. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> -- lover of truth
May I have your full name in case I don't hear your announcement here of your book publishing so I can search for it myself?

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#609921

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2023-05-06 18:59 -0700
Message-ID<a5d36b75-0e2c-49d0-9240-4f4314476e44n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#609906
On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 6:01:38 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05:21 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote: 
> > By 1913, the scientific world had virtually forgotten about the radical 
> > theory of relativity proposed by a little known Physicist called Albert 
> > Einstein. The theory appeared to be nothing more than a rehash of the 
> > ideas put forward by Lorentz, Poincare and others in their attempts to 
> > retain the notion of an absolute reference frame. There was much argument 
> > and experimentation directed at sorting out fact from fiction. 
> > 
> > That year, Albert Michelson, a highly regarded physicist, performed an 
> > experiment that would hopefully reveal whether light reflected from a 
> > moving mirror at c or at its incident speed in the mirror frame, c+v, 
> > (c+2v in the source frame). The experiment is described here. 
> > https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/ 
> > Effect_of_Reflection_from_a_Moving_Mirror_on_the_Velocity_of_Light 
> > 
> > His interpretation was a complete farce and whilst claiming to refute 
> > Newton actually does the opposite, It refutes Einstein's SR. I will 
> > explain why when people here have studied it. 
> > I cannot believe that Michelson did not know what he was doing. The 
> > experiment was obviously a hoax designed purely to prop up Einstein's 
> > SR...and it worked for quite a while. Nobody would have the courage to 
> > disagree with Michelson even though his mistake was blatantly obvious. 
> > Many other experiments of similar nature followed and all suffer from the 
> > same error.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > -- lover of truth

> May I have your full name in case I don't hear your announcement here of your book publishing so I can search for it myself?

Not going to happen... Jane is just another troll who wants to remain anonymous forever and ever... 

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#609942

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-05-06 22:36 -0500
Message-ID<kboklvFhthdU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#609906
On 5/6/2023 8:01 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05:21 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
>> By 1913, the scientific world had virtually forgotten about the radical
>> theory of relativity proposed by a little known Physicist called Albert
>> Einstein. The theory appeared to be nothing more than a rehash of the
>> ideas put forward by Lorentz, Poincare and others in their attempts to
>> retain the notion of an absolute reference frame. There was much argument
>> and experimentation directed at sorting out fact from fiction.
>>
>> That year, Albert Michelson, a highly regarded physicist, performed an
>> experiment that would hopefully reveal whether light reflected from a
>> moving mirror at c or at its incident speed in the mirror frame, c+v,
>> (c+2v in the source frame). The experiment is described here.
>> https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/
>> Effect_of_Reflection_from_a_Moving_Mirror_on_the_Velocity_of_Light
>>
>> His interpretation was a complete farce and whilst claiming to refute
>> Newton actually does the opposite, It refutes Einstein's SR. I will
>> explain why when people here have studied it.
>> I cannot believe that Michelson did not know what he was doing. The
>> experiment was obviously a hoax designed purely to prop up Einstein's
>> SR...and it worked for quite a while. Nobody would have the courage to
>> disagree with Michelson even though his mistake was blatantly obvious.
>> Many other experiments of similar nature followed and all suffer from the
>> same error.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> -- lover of truth

> May I have your full name in case I don't hear your announcement here 
> of your book publishing so I can search for it myself?

Nothing to concern yourself with. It will never happen.

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#610270

FromJane <Jane@home.com>
Date2023-05-10 04:33 +0000
Message-ID<175dae09e7871bdb$31$1853841$53d3d9df@news.newsgroupdirect.com>
In reply to#609906
On Sat, 06 May 2023 18:01:36 -0700, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:05:21 PM UTC-7, Jane wrote:
>> By 1913, the scientific world had virtually forgotten about the radical
>> theory of relativity proposed by a little known Physicist called Albert
>> Einstein. The theory appeared to be nothing more than a rehash of the
>> ideas put forward by Lorentz, Poincare and others in their attempts to
>> retain the notion of an absolute reference frame. There was much
>> argument and experimentation directed at sorting out fact from fiction.
>

snip
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> -- lover of truth
> May I have your full name in case I don't hear your announcement here of
> your book publishing so I can search for it myself?

No....you are probably a pervert.



-- 
-- lover of truth

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#610337

Fromcarl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com>
Date2023-05-10 14:17 -0700
Message-ID<a6323a21-c121-42d2-a379-2468a0c6064an@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#607821
Einstein is altering the coordinates system to justify Maxwell's equations and the ether (Michelson).

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