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What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell.

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  What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-08 18:47 -0800
    Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-12-08 20:44 -0800
      Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-12-08 21:00 -0800
        Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-12-09 12:28 +0100
        Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with  Newton or Maxwell. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-09 11:19 -0800
    Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-12-08 20:58 -0800
    Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with   Newton or Maxwell. Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-12-09 08:04 +0100
    Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-12-09 12:28 +0100
      Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-09 05:07 -0800
        Crank Richard Hertz goes ballistic "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-12-09 07:42 -0800
        Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-12-09 10:51 -0800
          Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. Hanoi Cuocco <ouco@ocaoch.ho> - 2022-12-09 19:00 +0000
            Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-09 13:13 -0600
          Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-12-09 11:04 -0800
        Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-12-10 10:59 +0100
    Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-12-09 13:00 -0600
      Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-12-10 05:47 -0800

#597044 — What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell.

Only a pseudo-scientific narrative to feed Hollywood and a couple of 
thousands of parasites per generation, that made a living from useless
metaphysics with no practical application.

Newton rules, undisputed.
Maxwell rules, undisputed.
Faraday, Ampere, Gauss, Euler, Kelvin, Kirchoff, Tesla, Heaviside, Rutherford,
Thomson, Hertz, Roegten, Fermi, Shockley and so many others: undisputed.

Einstein: Hyper-hyped like The Beatles in music, food for the gullible people 
and zero legacy.

Even the pair Schrodinger-Heisenberg (theoretical physicists) contributed
more to physics (and chemistry).

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#597047

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:47:16 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Only a pseudo-scientific narrative to feed Hollywood and a couple of 
> thousands of parasites per generation, that made a living from useless 
> metaphysics with no practical application. 
> 
> Newton rules, undisputed. 
> Maxwell rules, undisputed. 
> Faraday, Ampere, Gauss, Euler, Kelvin, Kirchoff, Tesla, Heaviside, Rutherford, 
> Thomson, Hertz, Roegten, Fermi, Shockley and so many others: undisputed. 
> 
> Einstein: Hyper-hyped like The Beatles in music, food for the gullible people 
> and zero legacy. 
> 
> Even the pair Schrodinger-Heisenberg (theoretical physicists) contributed 
> more to physics (and chemistry).

Your hatred of Einstein has permanently scarred your brain, rendering it essentially useless. Better find something else to do with your time, it is completely wasted here.

“There are none so blind as those who will not see”
-Proverbs

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#597049

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 8:44:54 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:47:16 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > Only a pseudo-scientific narrative to feed Hollywood and a couple of 
> > thousands of parasites per generation, that made a living from useless 
> > metaphysics with no practical application. 
> > 
> > Newton rules, undisputed. 
> > Maxwell rules, undisputed. 
> > Faraday, Ampere, Gauss, Euler, Kelvin, Kirchoff, Tesla, Heaviside, Rutherford, 
> > Thomson, Hertz, Roegten, Fermi, Shockley and so many others: undisputed. 
> > 
> > Einstein: Hyper-hyped like The Beatles in music, food for the gullible people 
> > and zero legacy. 
> > 
> > Even the pair Schrodinger-Heisenberg (theoretical physicists) contributed 
> > more to physics (and chemistry).
> Your hatred of Einstein has permanently scarred your brain, rendering it essentially useless. 

Yes, it's an obvious Einstein Derangement Syndrome. Strangely enough,
high IQ offers no protection against this sort of mental pathogen.

> Better find something else to do with your time, it is completely wasted here.

A monomaniac cannot quit so easily.

--
Jan

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#597055

JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 8:44:54 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:47:16 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > Only a pseudo-scientific narrative to feed Hollywood and a couple of
> > > thousands of parasites per generation, that made a living from useless
> > > metaphysics with no practical application. 
> > > 
> > > Newton rules, undisputed. 
> > > Maxwell rules, undisputed. 
> > > Faraday, Ampere, Gauss, Euler, Kelvin, Kirchoff, Tesla, Heaviside,
> > > Rutherford, Thomson, Hertz, Roegten, Fermi, Shockley and so many
> > > others: undisputed.
> > > 
> > > Einstein: Hyper-hyped like The Beatles in music, food for the gullible
> > > people and zero legacy.
> > > 
> > > Even the pair Schrodinger-Heisenberg (theoretical physicists) contributed
> > > more to physics (and chemistry).
> > Your hatred of Einstein has permanently scarred your brain, rendering it
> > essentially useless.
> > 
> Yes, it's an obvious Einstein Derangement Syndrome. Strangely enough,
> high IQ offers no protection against this sort of mental pathogen.

Au contraire, it makes some people more vulnerable.
They think that they can think.

May I recommend this product for your consideration?
<https://shop17203.sfstatic.io/upload_dir/shop/product-images/rr42.jpg>

OTOH, it might induce you to follow Piet Hein's example,
and to walk out on him, which would be a loss to this forum,

Jan

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#597109 — Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell.

JanPB wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 8:44:54 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:47:16 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > Only a pseudo-scientific narrative to feed Hollywood and a couple of
> > > thousands of parasites per generation, that made a living from useless
> > > metaphysics with no practical application.
> > >
> > > Newton rules, undisputed.
> > > Maxwell rules, undisputed.
> > > Faraday, Ampere, Gauss, Euler, Kelvin, Kirchoff, Tesla, Heaviside, Rutherford,
> > > Thomson, Hertz, Roegten, Fermi, Shockley and so many others: undisputed.
> > >
> > > Einstein: Hyper-hyped like The Beatles in music, food for the gullible people
> > > and zero legacy.
> > >
> > > Even the pair Schrodinger-Heisenberg (theoretical physicists) contributed
> > > more to physics (and chemistry).
> > Your hatred of Einstein has permanently scarred your brain, rendering it essentially useless.
> 
> Yes, it's an obvious Einstein Derangement Syndrome. Strangely enough,
> high IQ offers no protection against this sort of mental pathogen.
 
What you failed to understand JanPB is that high IQ is a result from an evolutionary disease. 

And you're tooooo close to see the forest..to see you are also...sick in the head.

Albert Einstein was also...sick in the head, right? spectrum disorder.


Out of 7 billion people on earth only 7 million are scientist, or  having high IQ as a result from an evolutionary disease disorder.


Nature makes mistakes too. 



What are we gonna do with all these...retards?


I say, Save The World, exterminate them all.








-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#597048

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:47:16 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Only a pseudo-scientific narrative to feed Hollywood and a couple of 
> thousands of parasites per generation, that made a living from useless 
> metaphysics with no practical application. 

Mentally deranged gobbledygook. Monomania. Obsession.

> Newton rules, undisputed. 

Blah.

> Maxwell rules, undisputed. 

Actually, it was all Maxwell's fault because it's his equations that led
to special relativity.

> Faraday, Ampere, Gauss, Euler, Kelvin, Kirchoff, Tesla, Heaviside, Rutherford, 
> Thomson, Hertz, Roegten, Fermi, Shockley and so many others: undisputed. 

Yes, they are undisputed but you are not qualified even to praise them.

> Einstein: Hyper-hyped like The Beatles in music, food for the gullible people 
> and zero legacy. 

Obsession and monomania.

> Even the pair Schrodinger

Schroedinger.

> -Heisenberg (theoretical physicists) contributed 
> more to physics (and chemistry).

Again, you can talk all you want about physics. It means nothing.

--
Jan

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#597051 — Re: What did Einstein accomplish that serves to mankind? Compare with Newton or Maxwell.

On 2022-12-09 02:47:14 +0000, Richard Hertz said:

> [more Einstein hatred]

What has Richard Hertz accomplished? Nothing.

-- 
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36+ years; mainly 
in England until 1987.

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#597056

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

> Only a pseudo-scientific narrative to feed Hollywood and a couple of 
> thousands of parasites per generation, that made a living from useless
> metaphysics with no practical application.
> 
> Maxwell rules, undisputed.

Einstein told us what Maxwell's equations really mean,
something that Maxwell himself never knew,

JAn

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#597059

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:28:09 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:

<snip>

> Einstein told us what Maxwell's equations really mean, 
> something that Maxwell himself never knew, 
> 
> JAn

I feel pity for you, as I read your comment that downplay and insult a TRUE POLYMATH GENIUS like Maxwell.

If you dare to repeat that on an IEEE meeting (or in any EE association), they would put your severed head on a stick, in a public place.

More than 140 years have passed since Maxwell's equations, reduced by Heaviside and Hertz, RULES THE ELECTROMAGNETIC WORLD.

As of today, the same 1880 four Maxwell's equation keep being used UNMODIFIED, to solve ANY problem in RF Engineering, from dipoles,
monopoles, array of dipoles, fractal antennae, dish antennae and ANY OTHER TYPE of antennae. They are even used with atomic and
molecular dipoles, from 10 Khz to 200 Ghz and WITHOUT A GLITCH.

And you DARE to compare such incredible contribution to modern civilization to what A PLAGIARIST CHARLATAN TOLD YOU?

You're an imbecile beyond any possible redemption.

Relativity is A PSEUDO-SCIENCE. JUST META-PHYSICS. Astrology has had more impact in the history of mankind than SR/GR.

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#597072 — Crank Richard Hertz goes ballistic

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 5:07:34 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:

> I am an imbecile beyond any possible redemption. 
> 
Agreed

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#597102

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 5:07:34 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:28:09 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> 
> <snip>
> > Einstein told us what Maxwell's equations really mean, 
> > something that Maxwell himself never knew, 
> > 
> > JAn
> I feel pity for you, as I read your comment that downplay and insult a TRUE POLYMATH GENIUS like Maxwell. 
> 
> If you dare to repeat that on an IEEE meeting (or in any EE association), they would put your severed head on a stick, in a public place. 
> 
> More than 140 years have passed since Maxwell's equations, reduced by Heaviside and Hertz, RULES THE ELECTROMAGNETIC WORLD. 

Well, in the classical regime, yes. But in particle physics, no.
Same is true about general relativity, BTW which can be considered
a tensor version of classical electrodynamics except it features an
additional curious bit: the equivalence principle.

> As of today, the same 1880 four Maxwell's equation keep being used UNMODIFIED, to solve ANY problem in RF Engineering, from dipoles, 
> monopoles, array of dipoles, fractal antennae, dish antennae and ANY OTHER TYPE of antennae. They are even used with atomic and 
> molecular dipoles, from 10 Khz to 200 Ghz and WITHOUT A GLITCH. 

They don't work in general, they lead e.g. to the ultraviolet catastrophe
(which was  a major conundrum of electrodynamics). So that's a major
glitch in the theory. But just like Newtonian mechanics, Maxwell's electrodynamics
will never go away, and the same is true of Einstein's relativity. All those theories
are phenomenally successful within their domains of application but none
is complete in the sense that none encompasses all phenomena of nature.

> And you DARE to compare such incredible contribution to modern civilization to what A PLAGIARIST CHARLATAN TOLD YOU? 

Einstein was not any "charlatan" or "plagiarist", you're just a monomaniac
throwing tantrum.

> You're an imbecile beyond any possible redemption. 
> 
> Relativity is A PSEUDO-SCIENCE. JUST META-PHYSICS. Astrology has had more impact in the history of mankind than SR/GR.

Relativity is a theory fully on par with Newton's and Maxwell's theories. As such,
it will never go away. I can see that this annoys you but this is a problem
you have to deal with yourself, perhaps with a bit of psychological help.

--
Jan

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#597105

JanPB wrote:

>> And you DARE to compare such incredible contribution to modern
>> civilization to what A PLAGIARIST CHARLATAN TOLD YOU?
> 
> Einstein was not any "charlatan" or "plagiarist", you're just a
> monomaniac throwing tantrum.

sure, he was an actor comedian "president" of uKraine, coup detated 2014 by a strong open nazis regime, well known by the capitalist khazar west. Same thing, different domains.

Famous Prisoner Of Conscience Victor Bout Exchanged To Lesbian Basketball Player Griner
https://southfront.org/famous-prisoner-of-conscience-victor-bout-exchanged-to-lesbian-basketball-player-griner/

then the khazar america says gay Griner is america. Proofs:

Karine Jean-Pierre on Brittney Griner’s release: "She represents the best of America."
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/aEgwngfnUa2V/

then the polakers are changing their names and move to america. Which is gay.

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#597108

On 12/9/2022 1:00 PM, Hanoi Cuocco wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
> 
>>> And you DARE to compare such incredible contribution to modern
>>> civilization to what A PLAGIARIST CHARLATAN TOLD YOU?
>>
>> Einstein was not any "charlatan" or "plagiarist", you're just a
>> monomaniac throwing tantrum.
> 
> sure, he was an actor comedian "president" of uKraine, coup detated 2014 by a strong open nazis regime, well known by the capitalist khazar west. Same thing, different domains.
> 
> Famous Prisoner Of Conscience Victor Bout Exchanged To Lesbian Basketball Player Griner
> https://southfront.org/famous-prisoner-of-conscience-victor-bout-exchanged-to-lesbian-basketball-player-griner/
> 
> then the khazar america says gay Griner is america. Proofs:
> 
> Karine Jean-Pierre on Brittney Griner’s release: "She represents the best of America."
> https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/%76%69%64%65%6f/aEgwngfnUa2V/
> 
> then the polakers are changing their names and move to america. Which is gay.

Oops, your obsession with gay is showing.

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#597106

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 10:51:58 AM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 5:07:34 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:28:09 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> > 
> > <snip> 
> > > Einstein told us what Maxwell's equations really mean, 
> > > something that Maxwell himself never knew, 
> > > 
> > > JAn 
> > I feel pity for you, as I read your comment that downplay and insult a TRUE POLYMATH GENIUS like Maxwell. 
> > 
> > If you dare to repeat that on an IEEE meeting (or in any EE association), they would put your severed head on a stick, in a public place. 
> > 
> > More than 140 years have passed since Maxwell's equations, reduced by Heaviside and Hertz, RULES THE ELECTROMAGNETIC WORLD.
> Well, in the classical regime, yes. But in particle physics, no. 
> Same is true about general relativity, BTW which can be considered 
> a tensor version of classical electrodynamics except it features an 
> additional curious bit: the equivalence principle.
> > As of today, the same 1880 four Maxwell's equation keep being used UNMODIFIED, to solve ANY problem in RF Engineering, from dipoles, 
> > monopoles, array of dipoles, fractal antennae, dish antennae and ANY OTHER TYPE of antennae. They are even used with atomic and 
> > molecular dipoles, from 10 Khz to 200 Ghz and WITHOUT A GLITCH.
> They don't work in general, they lead e.g. to the ultraviolet catastrophe 
> (which was a major conundrum of electrodynamics). So that's a major 
> glitch in the theory. But just like Newtonian mechanics, Maxwell's electrodynamics 
> will never go away, and the same is true of Einstein's relativity. All those theories 
> are phenomenally successful within their domains of application but none 
> is complete in the sense that none encompasses all phenomena of nature.
> > And you DARE to compare such incredible contribution to modern civilization to what A PLAGIARIST CHARLATAN TOLD YOU?
> Einstein was not any "charlatan" or "plagiarist", you're just a monomaniac 
> throwing tantrum.
> > You're an imbecile beyond any possible redemption. 
> > 
> > Relativity is A PSEUDO-SCIENCE. JUST META-PHYSICS. Astrology has had more impact in the history of mankind than SR/GR.
> Relativity is a theory fully on par with Newton's and Maxwell's theories. As such, 
> it will never go away. I can see that this annoys you but this is a problem 
> you have to deal with yourself, perhaps with a bit of psychological help. 
> 
> -- 
> Jan
And here is a problem from your past that you need to deal with Jan: 

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/580388/does-keplers-3rd-law-of-planetary-motion-violate-the-first-postulate

You and euroHenry were its first victims.  You cut and run back then.  Figured a way out yet?

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#597181

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 8:28:09 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > Einstein told us what Maxwell's equations really mean, 
> > something that Maxwell himself never knew, 
> > 
> > Jan
> 
> I feel pity for you, as I read your comment that downplay and insult a
> TRUE POLYMATH GENIUS like Maxwell.

Your pity doesn't change anything.

> If you dare to repeat that on an IEEE meeting (or in any EE association),
> they would put your severed head on a stick, in a public place.

Now there you have an irrefutable argument.
But tell me, are those EE guys really to dumb
to put up a stake the way it should be done?

Jan

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#597104

On 12/8/22 8:47 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Newton rules, undisputed.

Nope. Newtonian mechanics does not explain the kinematics observed in
particle accelerators, or fine details observed in certain astronomical
observations.

> Maxwell rules, undisputed.

Nope. Maxwell's equations (really classical electrodynamics) do not
explain lasers and myriad quantum phenomena.

> Faraday, Ampere, Gauss, Euler, Kelvin, Kirchoff, Tesla, Heaviside, 
> Rutherford, Thomson, Hertz, Roegten, Fermi, Shockley and so many 
> others: undisputed.

Nope. See above.

Tom Roberts

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#597192

On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 4:00:18 PM UTC-3, Tom Roberts wrote:

Really, Tom? For an OLD  physicist with a PhD, you show a very disrespectful attitude toward GREAT figures
of physics and mathematics that BROUGHT LIGHT to the darkness of human knowledge and allowed, in the
last 250 years TO CREATE the modern world and made possible that hundred of developers invented ALL of
the marvels that you enjoy daily TODAY. Relativity CONTRIBUTED WITH NOTHING TO THE 2022 WORLD.

You write as a resented relativist, that can't find ANY VALUE in what you worked all of your professional life. Shame on you.

> On 12/8/22 8:47 PM, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > Newton rules, undisputed. 
> 
> Nope. Newtonian mechanics does not explain the kinematics observed in 
> particle accelerators, or fine details observed in certain astronomical observations. 

Newtonian mechanics, developed during 200 years (until 1900) don't care and don't give a shit
for little charged particles that move at 36,000 Km/hr or higher, in a machine POWERED by energy
derived from DISCOVERIES in electricity, magnetism and electromagnetism from 1830 to 1930
(include thermionic amplifiers and nascent electronics, please).

Again, relativity contributed TO NOTHING OF VALUE TO THE REAL WORLD, and enjoyed more than 100 years to do something.

> 
> > Maxwell rules, undisputed. 
> 
> Nope. Maxwell's equations (really classical electrodynamics) do not 
> explain lasers and myriad quantum phenomena.

Maxwell, single-handedly, brought together electricity and magnetism creating the wireline and wireless electromagnetic world.
His discovery was SO ADVANCED that, even with Hertz contribution 10 years after his death, the world had to wait between 20
and 40 years (and Tesla, Edison, de Forest and many others) to start enjoying the services of a public energy grid, power generation, 
electric motors, radio links for data and then voice, long distance telephony, radio broadcasting, incipient TV broadcasting, radars, etc.).

Again, in the period described (1885 - 1930), relativity CONTRIBUTED WITH NOTHING. Only created chaos and confusion on weak minds.

> > Faraday, Ampere, Gauss, Euler, Kelvin, Kirchoff, Tesla, Heaviside, 
> > Rutherford, Thomson, Hertz, Roegten, Fermi, Shockley and so many 
> > others: undisputed.
> Nope. See above. 
> 
> Tom Roberts

Your disgraceful remark paints you as what you really are: a RESENTED RELATIVIST, looking for something to bitch around,
in CONSOLATION, because DEEP INSIDE you know how sterile and worthless relativity is.

And about quantum physics, lasers and shit, it emerged AFTER a period of maturation of THE WINDOW TO KNOWLEDGE that
Thomson, Planck, Rutherford and Bohr opened in just 15 years to allow a new generation of physicist to develop quantum mechanics
LESS THAN A DECADE after Bohr.

I don't see ANY CONTRIBUTION OF RELATIVITY HERE. Ohm did more for science advancement that your imbecile deity.

So, keep licking your wounds, Roberts. And keep telling a distorted, worthless vision of a technological world with your MUONS and
other accelerated shit, that ARE UNRELATED TO THE REALITY PERCEIVED BY 99.99999% OF PEOPLE.

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