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Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign?

Started byGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
First post2022-10-10 09:12 -0700
Last post2022-10-16 18:20 +0000
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  Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-10 09:12 -0700
    Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-10 11:13 -0700
      Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Mandy Stabile <alts@ilnnnbsl.ed> - 2022-10-10 18:37 +0000
        Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-10 16:32 -0700
          Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-12 09:26 -0700
            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-10-12 19:38 +0200
            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Chip Gabrielli <eici@apeciill.bl> - 2022-10-13 17:17 +0000
            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Woodrow Adessi <reds@odirsodo.er> - 2022-10-13 22:00 +0000
          Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-10-12 21:03 +0200
    Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-13 22:09 +0200
      Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 23:18 -0700
      Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-14 10:25 -0700
        Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Woodrow Adessi <reds@odirsodo.er> - 2022-10-14 17:36 +0000
          Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-14 11:23 -0700
            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Woodrow Adessi <reds@odirsodo.er> - 2022-10-14 19:50 +0000
              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-14 23:55 +0200
                Re: the 'PointedEars' Lahn, the braindead uneducated, unskilled and unemployed scumbag Woodrow Adessi <reds@odirsodo.er> - 2022-10-14 22:03 +0000
                  Re: the 'PointedEars' Lahn, the braindead uneducated, unskilled and unemployed scumbag "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-10-14 15:45 -0700
                    Re: the 'PointedEars' Lahn, the braindead uneducated, unskilled and unemployed scumbag whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-14 18:01 -0500
                      Re: the 'PointedEars' Lahn, the braindead uneducated, unskilled and unemployed scumbag Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-15 02:40 +0200
                        Re: the 'PointedEars' Lahn, the braindead uneducated, unskilled and unemployed scumbag William Stickers <bill.stickers@innocent.com> - 2022-10-17 11:09 +0100
                          Re: the 'PointedEars' Lahn, the braindead uneducated, unskilled and unemployed scumbag whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-17 07:49 -0500
                            Re: the 'PointedEars' Lahn, the braindead uneducated, unskilled and unemployed scumbag Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-17 08:25 -0700
                      Re: the 'PointedEars' Lahn, the braindead uneducated, unskilled and unemployed scumbag "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 12:47 -0700
                        Re: the 'PointedEars' Lahn, the braindead uneducated, unskilled and unemployed scumbag Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-17 01:10 +0200
                          Re: the 'PointedEars' Lahn, the braindead uneducated, unskilled and unemployed scumbag whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-16 22:09 -0500
            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-15 00:03 +0200
              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Woodrow Adessi <reds@odirsodo.er> - 2022-10-14 22:06 +0000
          Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-14 23:54 +0200
            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Woodrow Adessi <reds@odirsodo.er> - 2022-10-14 22:18 +0000
              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-14 17:56 -0500
                Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-15 02:37 +0200
                  Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-14 21:33 -0500
                    Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-15 20:09 +0200
                      Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-15 13:25 -0500
                        Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-17 00:55 +0200
                          Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-16 22:02 -0500
                          Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Joaquin Cuocco <cicu@acacqjuc.co> - 2022-10-17 14:59 +0000
                            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2022-10-17 08:23 -0700
                              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Joaquin Cuocco <cicu@acacqjuc.co> - 2022-10-17 17:30 +0000
                                Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2022-10-17 10:38 -0700
                                  Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Joaquin Cuocco <cicu@acacqjuc.co> - 2022-10-17 18:43 +0000
                                    Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2022-10-17 12:19 -0700
                                  Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Joaquin Cuocco <cicu@acacqjuc.co> - 2022-10-17 18:48 +0000
                                    Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2022-10-17 12:20 -0700
                                      Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Joaquin Cuocco <cicu@acacqjuc.co> - 2022-10-17 20:08 +0000
                                        Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2022-10-17 14:22 -0700
              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-15 02:33 +0200
                Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-10-14 17:40 -0700
                  Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-14 21:44 -0500
                  Re: yet another lurking imbecile *rotchm* uneducated and unskilled like hell Everet Baldini <rvia@nildiden.ii> - 2022-10-15 18:18 +0000
        Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-14 23:41 +0200
          Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-14 18:04 -0700
            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-14 18:08 -0700
              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-14 18:36 -0700
            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-15 03:35 +0200
              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-14 21:40 -0500
                Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-15 19:54 +0200
                  Re: the lurking imbecile *Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn* putting the foot in his mouth again Everet Baldini <rvia@nildiden.ii> - 2022-10-15 18:10 +0000
                    Re: the lurking imbecile *Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn* putting the foot in his mouth again whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-15 14:04 -0500
                  Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Everet Baldini <rvia@nildiden.ii> - 2022-10-15 18:40 +0000
                  Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-15 13:53 -0500
                    Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-17 00:41 +0200
            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-15 03:37 +0200
              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-14 19:09 -0700
                Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 01:39 -0700
              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-14 21:42 -0500
              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 03:44 -0700
                Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 03:51 -0700
                  Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 10:34 -0700
                Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-15 19:58 +0200
      Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-17 13:33 -0700
        Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Joaquin Cuocco <cicu@acacqjuc.co> - 2022-10-17 22:25 +0000
          Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-17 17:27 -0700
            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-18 17:57 +0000
              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 12:31 -0700
                Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-18 19:47 +0000
                  Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 14:29 -0700
                    Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-18 21:46 +0000
                      Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 18:01 -0700
                        Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-19 19:43 +0000
                          Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 17:40 -0700
                            Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-20 15:03 +0000
                              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 12:42 -0700
                              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 19:39 -0700
                                Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 19:50 -0700
                                Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Ricardo Bassani <isis@nbcroiad.ai> - 2022-10-21 09:04 +0000
                                  Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-21 04:37 -0700
                              Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-21 16:49 -0700
    Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? larry harson <larryharson66@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 14:04 -0700
      Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 19:00 -0700
        Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 11:14 -0700
          Re: Why Does the Metric contain a minus sign? Everet Baldini <rvia@nildiden.ii> - 2022-10-16 18:20 +0000

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#593510

FromEveret Baldini <rvia@nildiden.ii>
Date2022-10-15 18:40 +0000
Message-ID<tieuro$2rtn0$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#593497
crackpot troll *Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn*:

> whodat wrote:
> 
>> On 10/14/2022 8:35 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> Apparently I have not been clear enough.
>> 
>> Stick to your trade.
> 
> Apparently you have missed the part where I said that I am a computer
> scientist and software developer, too.

fuck, as a computer "scientist" you are to be working behind one or a few 
*PhD*s, most likely a *professor_graded* PhD. So you are coming to me, 
telling you what to do, otherwise I kick your ass out of team. You 
disrespectful fool.

this stupid troll just proved he never worked as a "computer_scientist", he 
doesn't even know what it is.

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#593513

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2022-10-15 13:53 -0500
Message-ID<jr0dteF9klsU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#593497
On 10/15/2022 12:54 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> whodat wrote:
> 
>> On 10/14/2022 8:35 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> Apparently I have not been clear enough.
>>
>> Stick to your trade.
> 
> Apparently you have missed the part where I said that I am
> a computer scientist and software developer, too.

Yes, so you have no actual qualifications, let alone interest,
to participate in a relativity newsgroup.

> You should work on that attention span problem of yours.

Says the fellow who doesn't even realize where he is. This
is a physics newsgroup. Do you know the underlying principles
of relativity let alone physics in general? You've indicated
an interest in astrophysics, a specific subdiscipline. Take care
to note the nuance that follows.

"Astrophysics is a branch of space science that applies the laws of
physics and chemistry to seek to understand the universe and our place
in it."

https://www.space.com/26218-astrophysics.html

Show us how and where you've made any postings relevant to that
discipline. Relativity has very narrow and specific relationships
with astrophysics, and you've not entered into a single discussion
here that in any way belongs to the overlap.

I'm glad you're aware of attention span deficits. Now please apply
that knowledge to your behavior and recognize your own superiority
complex based trolling behavior here. We have enough uneducated
crazies in Usenet without adding any educated, as poor as that is
in your case, to the mix.

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#593578

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2022-10-17 00:41 +0200
Message-ID<3409793.QJadu78ljV@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#593513
whodat wrote:

> On 10/15/2022 12:54 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> whodat wrote:
>>> On 10/14/2022 8:35 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> Apparently I have not been clear enough.
>>> Stick to your trade.
>> 
>> Apparently you have missed the part where I said that I am
>> a computer scientist and software developer, too.
> 
> Yes, so you have no actual qualifications, let alone interest,
> to participate in a relativity newsgroup.

LOL.

1. People can be, and actually are, interested in subjects outside of
   their *profession* or previous education, and I am by far not the only
   person here to whom that applies.

   You should not project your ignorance onto everybody else.  It does not
   make you look good.

2. Look up the meaning of “too”, illiterate.
 
>> You should work on that attention span problem of yours.
> 
> Says the fellow who doesn't even realize where he is.

I do realize where I am.  That does not mean that, when the opportunity 
presents itself to be of value regarding other topics, in particular my 
(past) field of expertise, I should not take it.

And it is not up to you to define, decide or dictate which subjects can or 
cannot be discussed here.  So shut up your big eating hole and be of use 
regarding the subjects on-topic here yourself just ONE time.  *Then* you 
have might have a right to lecture others about it.

> This is a physics newsgroup.

You don’t say…

> Do you know the underlying principles of relativity let alone physics in
> general?

Yes, as I think I have demonstrated a sufficient number of times in the past 
SEVEN YEARS before you crawled up from under your rock.  Again your 
attention span problem is showing.  Or is it actually an attention-SEEKING 
problem, troll?

> You've indicated an interest in astrophysics, a specific subdiscipline.
> Take care to note the nuance that follows.

See, again you are merely embarrassing yourself by demonstrating to the 
whole world that you don’t have the shadow of a trace of a clue what you
are babbling about.

I am NOW studying for a BSc in Astrophysics, which is my/a shorthand for 
saying that I am studying for a BSc in Physics with minor in Astronomy (my 
other minor is Mathematics, which is mandatory when studying Physics at my 
university).
 
> "Astrophysics is a branch of space science that applies the laws of
> physics and chemistry to seek to understand the universe and our place
> in it."
> 
> https://www.space.com/26218-astrophysics.html

LOL.  Overconfidence obviously comes in very small packages.
 
> Show us how and where you've made any postings relevant to that
> discipline.

“Us” :-D

Just FOAD, will you?


PointedEars
-- 
Q: Who's on the case when the electricity goes out?  
A: Sherlock Ohms.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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#593460

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2022-10-15 03:37 +0200
Message-ID<3724131.kQq0lBPeGt@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#593456
George Hammond wrote:

> [PointedEars]

Please read the tutorial on quoting again.

> Let's see what happens: –  maybe the Google groups interface will
> followed up or something?

Please use test groups for such tests instead.


PointedEars
-- 
I heard that entropy isn't what it used to be.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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#593461

FromGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-14 19:09 -0700
Message-ID<07fb92c2-13cd-45f1-a9bf-fcb38f38de13n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593460
On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 9:37:11 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> George Hammond wrote: 
> 
> > [PointedEars] 
> 
> Please read the tutorial on quoting again.
> > Let's see what happens: – maybe the Google groups interface will 
> > followed up or something?
> Please use test groups for such tests instead. 
> 
> 
> PointedEars 
> -- 
> I heard that entropy isn't what it used to be. 
> 
> (from: WolframAlpha)
.
[George Hammond]
.... Well, I can cut and paste your "Linux exponents" and they reproduces
faithfully when pasted to Google Groups.
....Would you do me a favor? – I have a 4 x 4 matrix
which is "diagonal" with zeros everywhere else: –
.
|...a^2 .....0..........0........0 ....| 
|.....0 ........a^2......0.......0.....|
|.....0.........0........a^2.....0.....|
|.....0.........0.........0...-1/a^2  |
.
.... It only has 2 different mathematical terms:  a^2, and  -1/a^2
Could you possibly see your way clear to post those 2 terms
in "GNU – Linux" exponent format, like in your original post,
so I could cut and paste the 2 terms into a matrix publishable
on Google groups?
George

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#593473

FromGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-15 01:39 -0700
Message-ID<f5848968-1f21-415d-9fb8-df4348e441e5n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593461
On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 10:09:54 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 9:37:11 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: 
> > George Hammond wrote: 
> > 
> > > [PointedEars] 
> > 
> > Please read the tutorial on quoting again. 
> > > Let's see what happens: – maybe the Google groups interface will 
> > > followed up or something? 
> > Please use test groups for such tests instead. 
> > 
> > 
> > PointedEars 
> > -- 
> > I heard that entropy isn't what it used to be. 
> > 
> > (from: WolframAlpha)
> . 
> [George Hammond] 
> .... Well, I can cut and paste your "Linux exponents" and they reproduces 
> faithfully when pasted to Google Groups. 
> ....Would you do me a favor? – I have a 4 x 4 matrix 
> which is "diagonal" with zeros everywhere else: – 
> . 
> |...a^2 .....0..........0........0 ....| 
> |.....0 ........a^2......0.......0.....| 
> |.....0.........0........a^2.....0.....| 
> |.....0.........0.........0...-1/a^2 | 
> . 
> .... It only has 2 different mathematical terms: a^2, and -1/a^2 
> Could you possibly see your way clear to post those 2 terms 
> in "GNU – Linux" exponent format, like in your original post, 
> so I could cut and paste the 2 terms into a matrix publishable 
> on Google groups? 
> George
.
....Hey nevermind PointedEars, all I needed to do is cut and paste your
Linux exponent,  ²   ,and use that in my 4x4 matrix:-

|....a².......0.......0 .......0....|
|.....0 .......a²......0.......0....|
|.....0........0.......a².....0.....|
|.....0........0........0...-1/a² |
.
Thanks anyway,  George

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#593464

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2022-10-14 21:42 -0500
Message-ID<jqul10F1ar7U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#593460
On 10/14/2022 8:37 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> George Hammond wrote:
> 
>> [PointedEars]
> 
> Please read the tutorial on quoting again.
> 
>> Let's see what happens: –  maybe the Google groups interface will
>> followed up or something?
> 
> Please use test groups for such tests instead.
> 
> 
> PointedEars

Are you trying to make believe that your posts as created actually
belong in this newsgroup?

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#593476

FromGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-15 03:44 -0700
Message-ID<38692ef4-450a-4ebc-b3bb-7029a0cf78ean@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593460
On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 9:37:11 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> George Hammond wrote: 
> 
> > [PointedEars] 
> 
> Please read the tutorial on quoting again.
> > Let's see what happens: – maybe the Google groups interface will 
> > followed up or something?
> Please use test groups for such tests instead. 
> 
> 
> PointedEars 
> -- 
> I heard that entropy isn't what it used to be. 
> 
> (from: WolframAlpha)
.
[George Hammond MS physics]
.... I finally got the metric squeezed down to:
.
|a²  o   o   o  |.
|o   a²  o   o  |   =   The Metric of God.
|o   o   a²  o  |.
|o   o   o-1/a²|.
.
Thanks to your GNU – Linux exponents!
And it is fairly presentable on USENET.
a(t) is the (FLRW type) of "scale factor". 
Why it is called the "Metric of God" is a long story
off-topic in this conversation. But briefly, it is the
Metric of SUBJECTIVE space-time as opposed to the
Metric of OBJECTIVE space-time. And by the way
this metric has a nonzero curvature !  Meaning that
"God" is an Einsteinian curvature of SUBJECTIVE
space-time.  There actually is a real God measurable
to 2 decimal point accuracy! 
Been nice talking to you – see ya round,
George

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#593477

FromGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-15 03:51 -0700
Message-ID<2f88779b-0ef7-42b7-ba98-51d5e32ecd11n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593476
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:44:07 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 9:37:11 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > George Hammond wrote: 
> > 
> > > [PointedEars] 
> > 
> > Please read the tutorial on quoting again. 
> > > Let's see what happens: – maybe the Google groups interface will 
> > > followed up or something? 
> > Please use test groups for such tests instead. 
> > 
> > 
> > PointedEars 
> > -- 
> > I heard that entropy isn't what it used to be. 
> > 
> > (from: WolframAlpha)
> . 
> [George Hammond MS physics] 
> .... I finally got the metric squeezed down to: 
> . 
> |a² o o o |. 
> |o a² o o | = The Metric of God. 
> |o o a² o |. 
> |o o o-1/a²|. 
> . 
> Thanks to your GNU – Linux exponents! 
> And it is fairly presentable on USENET. 
> a(t) is the (FLRW type) of "scale factor". 
> Why it is called the "Metric of God" is a long story 
> off-topic in this conversation. But briefly, it is the 
> Metric of SUBJECTIVE space-time as opposed to the 
> Metric of OBJECTIVE space-time. And by the way 
> this metric has a nonzero curvature ! Meaning that 
> "God" is an Einsteinian curvature of SUBJECTIVE 
> space-time. There actually is a real God measurable 
> to 2 decimal point accuracy! 
> Been nice talking to you – see ya round, 
> George
.
[George Hammond MS physics]
....Hmmm ... this should look better:
a²  o  o  o |.
|o  a²  o  o | = The Metric of God.
|o  o  a²  o |.
|o o o-1/a²|.
.
George

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#593492

FromGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-15 10:34 -0700
Message-ID<fcbc75e3-61b9-41b8-bac9-950cb510a151n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593477
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:51:11 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:44:07 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote: 
> > On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 9:37:11 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: 
> > > George Hammond wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > [PointedEars] 
> > > 
> > > Please read the tutorial on quoting again. 
> > > > Let's see what happens: – maybe the Google groups interface will 
> > > > followed up or something? 
> > > Please use test groups for such tests instead. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > PointedEars 
> > > -- 
> > > I heard that entropy isn't what it used to be. 
> > > 
> > > (from: WolframAlpha) 
> > . 
> > [George Hammond MS physics] 
> > .... I finally got the metric squeezed down to: 
> > . 
> > |a² o o o |. 
> > |o a² o o | = The Metric of God. 
> > |o o a² o |. 
> > |o o o-1/a²|. 
> > . 
> > Thanks to your GNU – Linux exponents! 
> > And it is fairly presentable on USENET. 
> > a(t) is the (FLRW type) of "scale factor". 
> > Why it is called the "Metric of God" is a long story 
> > off-topic in this conversation. But briefly, it is the 
> > Metric of SUBJECTIVE space-time as opposed to the 
> > Metric of OBJECTIVE space-time. And by the way 
> > this metric has a nonzero curvature ! Meaning that 
> > "God" is an Einsteinian curvature of SUBJECTIVE 
> > space-time. There actually is a real God measurable 
> > to 2 decimal point accuracy! 
> > Been nice talking to you – see ya round, 
> > George 
> . 
> [George Hammond MS physics]
> ....Hmmm ... this should look better:
> a² o o o |. 
> |o a² o o | = The Metric of God. 
> |o o a² o |. 
> |o o o-1/a²|. 
> .
> George
,
....Lets try that again...
.
|a² o o o  |
|o a² o o  |    =    The Metric of God. 
|o o a² o  |
|ooo-1/a²|
.
Hmmm ... alt.test.test.test.test  displays it  differently
from sci.physics.relativity  ?

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#593498

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2022-10-15 19:58 +0200
Message-ID<3156001.5fSG56mABF@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#593476
George Hammond wrote:

> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 9:37:11 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> wrote:
>> George Hammond wrote:
>> > [PointedEars]
>> 
>> Please read the tutorial on quoting again.
>> > Let's see what happens: – maybe the Google groups interface will
>> > followed up or something?
>> Please use test groups for such tests instead.
>> 
>> (from: WolframAlpha)
> .
> [George Hammond MS physics]

If you are, then by now you appear to have lost all your marbles.

> .... I finally got the metric squeezed down to:
> .
> |a²  o   o   o  |.
> |o   a²  o   o  |   =   The Metric of God.
> |o   o   a²  o  |.
> |o   o   o-1/a²|.

So you are just a troll after all.  How sad.

> Thanks to your GNU – Linux exponents!

Unicode is not an operating system-specific technology.

> [more nonsense snipped]

Please go away.


PointedEars
-- 
Q: Where are offenders sentenced for light crimes?  
A: To a prism.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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#593625

FromGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-17 13:33 -0700
Message-ID<702ad079-b5e0-49b6-98ce-1a246f992899n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593386
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 4:09:32 PM UTC-4, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> George Hammond wrote: 
> 
> > Explanations for the minus sign in the 4 x 4 space-time Metric range from 
> > Thermodynamics to Euclidean versus Hyperbolic geometry. ..... I however 
> > think there is a simpler explanation, namely – 
> > 
> > The minus sign is required in order to reproduce the Lorentz 
> > transformation of special relativity. The correctness of the Lorentz 
> > transformation is experimentally proven beyond any question whatsoever. 
> > Therefore the minus sign is EXPERIMENTALLY REQUIRED. .... My question to 
> > you is: – is this a correct answer to the question, YES or NO?
> No. Because, contrary to what especially science journalists with their 
> clickbait headings often want to make laypeople believe, that is NOT how 
> science works. There is NO experiment that can prove *any* theory beyond a 
> reasonable doubt. That is not what we do. We do experiments to *falsify* 
> theories, to weed out the bad ones. And when that fails (provided it it was 
> falsifiable, i.e. actually a theory), the respective theory becomes more 
> worthy of consideration. 
> 
> But (if you also accept just one fundamental experimental fact) it is 
> *mathematically* required: It is a *logical* consequence of that fact. 
> 
> A derivation that I still find very nice (and may have been introduced by 
> either Minkowski or Einstein) is that of the Minkowski metric merely from 
> two simple assumptions: 
> 
> 1. Light travels at the speed c, so it travels the distance c Δt in the 
> duration Δt (for all observers). 
> 
> 2. The Pythagorean theorem holds in flat spacetime, and so distances may 
> be expressed as the square root of the sum of squares of differences 
> between the spatial coordinates of two points (Euclidean metric). 
> 
> For light, 
> 
> c Δt = √(Δx² + Δy² + Δz²) 
> ⇒ c² Δt² = Δx² + Δy² + Δz² 
> ⇔ c² Δt² − Δx² − Δy² − Δz² = 0 
> 
> When we make the intervals infinitesimal, we obtain 
> 
> c² dt² − dx² − dy² − dz² = 0. (1) 
> 
> We may call the value RHS “ds²” and find that light follows null spacetime 
> geodesics where ds² = 0. In general, for flat spacetime we have then one 
> form of the Minkowski metric 
> 
> ds² = c² dt² − dx² − dy² − dz². 
> 
> You can see that you can multiply eq. (1) by −1 to obtain equivalently 
> 
> −c² dt² + dx² + dy² + dz² = 0, 
> 
> and so you can also say 
> 
> ds² = −c² dt² + dx² + dy² + dz² 
> 
> if you prefer that. 
> 
> It is "just a small step" from there to a full-blown spacetime metric that 
> works for all objects and spacetime intervals given a particular spacetime 
> geometry. 
> 
> Notice the beauty of this. It does not require any assumptions about 
> clocks, lengths, or relations between observers. Just a constant speed of 
> light and basic geometry 
> 
> And, in fact, even the Lorentz factor and "time dilation" pops out of it 
> *automagically*: 
> 
> (ds/dt)² = c² − (dx/dt)² − (dy/dt)² − (dz/dt)² 
> = c² − [(dx/dt)² + (dy/dt)² + (dz/dt)²] 
> = c² − v² 
> = c² (1 − v²/c²) 
> = c² (1 − v²/c²) 
> ⇔ (ds/c)² = dt² (1 − v²/c²) 
> ⇔ dτ = dt √(1 − v²/c²) = dt/γ. 
> 
> 
> PointedEars 
> -- 
> “Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing; 
> testing your knowledge means everything.” 
> —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist, 
> in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)
.
[George E Hammond MS physics, Hyannis MA USA]
.
URGENT MESSAGE TO " LIEUT. CMDR. SPOCK"
............ a.k.a. – "POINTEDEARS"
FROM CAPT. KIRK –
............ a.k.a. George E Hammond MS Physics
.
.... Spock – Your 5–line derivation of the Lorentz Factor
from the flat space Metric scents of  genius!
.... Therefore as "Capt. Kirk" of this outfit I am issuing
a direct order to you as " Lieut. Cmdr. Spock" to find
10 minutes to watch this highly classified YouTube
STAR FLEET video: –
.
WORLD'S 1st SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD
........https://youtu.be/GXRA_vrZMYk
..................(YouTube 12-min)
.
.... The worldwide academic Psychology Community
has appealed to the Physics Dept to explain the last
20 words of this video – and the Physics Dept. has
submitted this Metric –
.
|a²  o   o   o  |.
|o   a²  o   o  |   =   The Metric of God.
|o   o   a²  o  |.
|o   o   o-1/a²|.

As a MATHEMATICAL EXPLANATION of those last 20 
words of the video !
.
.... Therefore as Star Trek fleet commander I am ordering
you Spock (a.k.a. POINTEDEARS) to watch the 10 minute
video, MADE BY CAPT. KIRK HIMSELF, and inform me of
your reaction to it in less than 155 words – don't worry 
about what to say – say anything that comes to your mind 
from watching it – Fleet Command will read between the 
lines of your statement – and will consider it OF THE 
HIGHEST PRIORITY – based on their estimate of your 
polymathic genius !
.
Capt. Kirk –  over and out !

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#593628

FromJoaquin Cuocco <cicu@acacqjuc.co>
Date2022-10-17 22:25 +0000
Message-ID<tikkph$3hpe4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#593625
George Hammond wrote:

> [George E Hammond MS physics, Hyannis MA USA]
> |a²  o   o   o  |.
> |o   a²  o   o  |   =   The Metric of God.
> |o   o   a²  o  |.
> |o   o   o-1/a²|.

thank you for your intrigue message. The admittedly blew up the european 
*gas_pipelines* as *tremendous_opportunities*, which is a severe 
*war_crime*. Amazing the impertinence of these dirty, bad teeth 
individuals. Who are these individuals?? Act of war, against Gearmony?? It 
will come again, through Turkey. These individuals are not fucking it up 
with Turkey??

Germany says it knows who sabotaged Nord Stream, but...
https://theduran.com/germany-says-it-knows-who-sabotaged-nord-stream-but/

no self respected country would allow such that. The people will stand up. 
They killed about 40,000 bombing Hamburg, Dresden the same, Berlin 
likewise.

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#593630

FromGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-17 17:27 -0700
Message-ID<8eb1d134-fc95-4d42-87e7-66ddb8220962n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593628
On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 6:25:56 PM UTC-4, Joaquin Cuocco wrote:
> George Hammond wrote: 
> 
> > [George E Hammond MS physics, Hyannis MA USA]
> > |a² o o o |. 
> > |o a² o o | = The Metric of God. 
> > |o o a² o |. 
> > |o o o-1/a²|.
> thank you for your intrigue message. The admittedly blew up the european 
> *gas_pipelines* as *tremendous_opportunities*, which is a severe 
> *war_crime*. Amazing the impertinence of these dirty, bad teeth 
> individuals. Who are these individuals?? Act of war, against Gearmony?? It 
> will come again, through Turkey. These individuals are not fucking it up 
> with Turkey?? 
> 
> Germany says it knows who sabotaged Nord Stream, but... 
> https://theduran.com/germany-says-it-knows-who-sabotaged-nord-stream-but/ 
> 
> no self respected country would allow such that. The people will stand up. 
> They killed about 40,000 bombing Hamburg, Dresden the same, Berlin 
> likewise.
.
.
.
[George E Hammond MS physics Hyannis MA USA]
.... Hey – I'm a Physicist here to talk about general relativity.
I'm not involved in politics however as a physicist, it's obvious to me
that anyone with a fishing boat on the Baltic Sea with a sonar
depth finder could buy a World War II surplus submarine death charge
for a couple of thousand bucks – use the sonar to find the Nord Stream 
pipeline and simply set the death charge for the depth of the bottom of the Baltic Sea
and toss it overboard in the middle of the night and blow the thing up –
.... Any one of 10,000  fishing boats on the Baltic Sea could have done it
with only a handful of men.  No doubt it was a local "terrorist act" and not
the action of any major government – who would obviously know better
then to do such a thing.
George

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#593674

FromWilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia>
Date2022-10-18 17:57 +0000
Message-ID<timpdl$3pji1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#593630
George Hammond wrote:

> [George E Hammond MS physics Hyannis MA USA]
> .... Hey – I'm a Physicist here to talk about general relativity.
> I'm not involved in politics however as a physicist, it's obvious to me
> that anyone with a fishing boat on the Baltic Sea with a sonar depth
> finder could buy a World War II surplus submarine death charge for a
> couple of thousand bucks – use the sonar to find the Nord Stream
> pipeline and simply set the death charge for the depth of the bottom of
> the Baltic Sea and toss it overboard in the middle of the night and blow
> the thing up

amazing, with those *couple_of_thousand_bucks* and that 
*surplus_WW2_submarine*, they can also easily put a man on the moon. Quite 
amazing, 80 years old and coming here lying. *80_years_old_and_lying*, you 
stinking sondre bitch. Are these *corrupt_mafia_wankers* also telling the 
truth or lying?

Mafia state kills Nord Stream (Sen. Ron Johnson, Victoria Nuland and Joe 
Biden) https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/K95EyXpmDd2E

Watch shitty EU imperialist speaking about invading civilized countries.   
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/bTvRyJn67FEq

11.10.22 🇲🇩 Moldova: U.S.⧸ NATO advance team stopped by locals!!!
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/FWZi0Dwl0FoL

People Are Already Trolling NaZilensky's Newly Made Hologram Propaganda 
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/9BA1GNBEeDqj

Nowadays You Cannot Trust Even Your Own Eyes
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/HWWYpPgeovXG

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#593681

FromGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-18 12:31 -0700
Message-ID<ba3a847a-0fe3-4920-9fa7-ba724fcca6bbn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593674
.
[George E Hammond MS physics, Hyannis MA USA]
.... Hey – Stop posting POLITICAL material on this newsgroup !
.
.... This newsgroup SPR is for the discussion of Relativistic
Mathematical material only !
.
This thread is aimed towards explaining why the God of the Bible
is described by this Curved Relativistic 4 X 4 space-time metric: –
.
|a² o o o |.
|o a² o o | = The Metric of God.
|o o a² o |.
|ooo-1/a²|.
.
.... If you got any ideas about that, Bigshot, we like to hear about it !
George

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#593683

FromWilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia>
Date2022-10-18 19:47 +0000
Message-ID<timvrs$3q2q6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#593681
George Hammond wrote:

> [George E Hammond MS physics, Hyannis MA USA]
> .... Hey – Stop posting POLITICAL material on this newsgroup !
> .
> .... This newsgroup SPR is for the discussion of Relativistic
> Mathematical material only !

right after the 80 years old bitch was lying, he wants now stop the 
relevant content.

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#593685

FromGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-18 14:29 -0700
Message-ID<094bd1f4-6a60-402d-8c6e-7c82b0156200n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593683
[George E Hammond MS physics]
.... Good place to test my matrix typesetting format: –
.
|a² o o o. |.
|o a² o o. | = The Metric of God.
|o o a² o. |.
|ooo-1/a²|.
.
.... Let's see how that format comes through on SPR?
George

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#593687

FromWilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia>
Date2022-10-18 21:46 +0000
Message-ID<tin6rp$3qpfc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#593685
George Hammond wrote:

> [George E Hammond MS physics]
> .... Good place to test my matrix typesetting format: –
> .
> |a² o o o. |.
> |o a² o o. | = The Metric of God.
> |o o a² o. |.
> |ooo-1/a²|.
> .
> .... Let's see how that format comes through on SPR? George

that's a matrix, not a tensor. And you'll not get indulgences coming here 
80 years old and lying. Or you guys don't need indulgences.

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#593704

FromGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-18 18:01 -0700
Message-ID<83e54926-df07-444d-b222-28ed7761ea81n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#593687
[George E Hammond MS physics, Hyannis MA USA]
.... Okay – your real stoopid – which means you  SEE real smart !
And at 80 – I'm old enough to know what that means !
.
The "METRIC" of Relativity is a 2nd rank tensor – but tensor 
multiplication is the same as matrix multiplication – so
what I'm saying is that therefore the "proper distance" in 
SUBJECTIVE SPACETIME Relativity is given by: –
.
|a² o o o. ||x²|
|o a² o o. ||y²| = (a²x²+a²y²+a²z²-t²/a²) = ds² in SUBJECTIVE spacetime
|o o a² o. ||z²|
|ooo-1/a²||t²|
.
.... Okay – that much you probably trust me to be correct about – 
because being real stoopid you can SEE more than I can even though 
being smarter than you I KNOW more than you do ! 
.
But what I'm here to tell you which you DON'T KNOW
and only a real STOOPIDSMART individual is capable
of understanding all THIS
.
.... OBJECTIVE space-time is measured by clocks and rulers.
.
.... SUBJECTIVE space-time is measured by the size of your own foot
in your own mental speed. 
.
... For people under 20 years of age – their
SIZE and MENTAL SPEED is only half that of an adult if they are 10 years
old –  so the world looks twice as big to them and twice as fast to them
is it does to an adult.  They see a magnification factor "a" of almost
a factor of 2.  And that's what the above METRIC is all about.
,
..... And the HUMAN PROBLEM is that NO ONE ever reaches 1oo%
full growth – the world average for adults is only about 85% !!!
.
... And this missing 15% of reality is what is called "God".
.
Hope you got all that Stoopid – and it's only because you can SEE
far better than smart people can – even though they know more than you –
that you can probably comprehend all this – while they CAN'T  !!!!
.
: – none of the ivory tower intellectuals
on SPR can understand a word of it !!! 
To put it bluntly – they're so smart they're stupid !
George

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