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What time is it?

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First post2026-03-05 21:38 -0800
Last post2026-03-06 14:10 +0000
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  What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-05 21:38 -0800
    Re: What time is it? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-06 07:57 +0100
      Re: What time is it? Boris Bazanov <aaab@voban.ru> - 2026-03-06 14:14 +0000
        Re: What time is it? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-06 17:25 +0100
      Re: What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-06 10:49 -0800
        Re: What time is it? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-07 06:45 +0100
          Re: What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-07 00:03 -0800
            Re: What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-07 00:16 -0800
              Re: What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-07 00:21 -0800
                Re: What time is it? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-07 11:15 +0100
                  Re: What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-07 09:42 -0800
                    Re: What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-07 09:51 -0800
                      Re: What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-07 10:02 -0800
                        Re: What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-07 10:47 -0800
                          Re: What time is it? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-07 23:35 +0100
                            Re: What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-07 14:48 -0800
                              Re: What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-07 16:24 -0800
                                Re: What time is it? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-07 22:44 -0800
                                Re: What time is it? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-08 12:01 +0100
              Re: What time is it? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-07 11:12 +0100
            Re: What time is it? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-07 11:11 +0100
    Re: What time is it? Jerbel Winogrodzki <dwgbb@derkl.pl> - 2026-03-06 14:10 +0000

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#669479 — What time is it?

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-05 21:38 -0800
SubjectWhat time is it?
Message-ID<69AA6868.3A6A@ix.netcom.com>
What is the time of the universe?





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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669480

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-03-06 07:57 +0100
Message-ID<189a2e45b975e385$462319$71155$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#669479
On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> What is the time of the universe?


The universe has no. It's a human made
tool for human data processing.


> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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#669486

FromBoris Bazanov <aaab@voban.ru>
Date2026-03-06 14:14 +0000
Message-ID<10oenfv$nkrd$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#669480
Maciej Woźniak wrote:

> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> What is the time of the universe?
> 
> 
> The universe has no. It's a human made tool for human data processing.

so it will not be a tomorrow, starting from now

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#669490

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-03-06 17:25 +0100
Message-ID<189a4d40bda028ee$418861$3719901$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#669486
On 3/6/2026 3:14 PM, Boris Bazanov wrote:
> Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> 
>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> What is the time of the universe?
>>
>>
>> The universe has no. It's a human made tool for human data processing.
> 
> so it will not be a tomorrow, starting from now

If you say so...

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#669493

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-06 10:49 -0800
Message-ID<69AB219D.15D2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#669480
=?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> 
> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > What is the time of the universe?
> 
> The universe has no. It's a human made
> tool for human data processing.


I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
nearby...
what yous people call local time..

I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.








-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669501

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-03-07 06:45 +0100
Message-ID<189a78e3044f6e83$462322$71155$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#669493
On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>
>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> What is the time of the universe?
>>
>> The universe has no. It's a human made
>> tool for human data processing.
> 
> 
> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> nearby...
> what yous people call local time..

Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
ideological idiocy.


> 
> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.


Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
as said, there is no.

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#669508

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-07 00:03 -0800
Message-ID<69ABDBE2.662D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#669501
=?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> 
> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >>
> >> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> What is the time of the universe?
> >>
> >> The universe has no. It's a human made
> >> tool for human data processing.
> >
> >
> > I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> > the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> > nearby...
> > what yous people call local time..
> 
> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
> ideological idiocy.
> 
> >
> > I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
> 
> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
> as said, there is no.

The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
time.

Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
the end of time..

Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime. 


If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669509

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-07 00:16 -0800
Message-ID<69ABDEF5.1C99@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#669508
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >
> > On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>> What is the time of the universe?
> > >>
> > >> The universe has no. It's a human made
> > >> tool for human data processing.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> > > the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> > > nearby...
> > > what yous people call local time..
> >
> > Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
> > I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
> > idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
> > ideological idiocy.
> >
> > >
> > > I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
> >
> > Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
> > as said, there is no.
> 
> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
> time.
> 
> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
> the end of time..
> 
> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
> 
> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.

In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
clocks or even your...math.


'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'

Math does not represent the universe...

there are numbers on a clock.

throw out the numbers.

throw out the clock!

 



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669510

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-07 00:21 -0800
Message-ID<69ABE00D.510C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#669509
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >
> > > On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>> What is the time of the universe?
> > > >>
> > > >> The universe has no. It's a human made
> > > >> tool for human data processing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> > > > the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> > > > nearby...
> > > > what yous people call local time..
> > >
> > > Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
> > > I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
> > > idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
> > > ideological idiocy.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
> > >
> > > Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
> > > as said, there is no.
> >
> > The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
> > time.
> >
> > Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
> > the end of time..
> >
> > Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
> >
> > If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
> > blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
> 
> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
> clocks or even your...math.
> 
> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
> 
> Math does not represent the universe...
> 
> there are numbers on a clock.
> 
> throw out the numbers.
> 
> throw out the clock!


Wait, where is dat clock...

I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.


"My Gawd, it's full of stars!"

The Starmaker








-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669513

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-03-07 11:15 +0100
Message-ID<189a87a288665a06$418864$3719901$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#669510
On 3/7/2026 9:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
>>>>>> tool for human data processing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
>>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
>>>>> nearby...
>>>>> what yous people call local time..
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
>>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
>>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
>>>> ideological idiocy.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
>>>> as said, there is no.
>>>
>>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
>>> time.
>>>
>>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
>>> the end of time..
>>>
>>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
>>>
>>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
>>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
>>
>> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
>> clocks or even your...math.
>>
>> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
>>
>> Math does not represent the universe...
>>
>> there are numbers on a clock.
>>
>> throw out the numbers.
>>
>> throw out the clock!
> 
> 
> Wait, where is dat clock...
> 
> I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.

Well, yes, you can remove the numbers, hands
and notches, or just smash it. But no, you
can't add stars.

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#669526

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-07 09:42 -0800
Message-ID<69AC6375.2AE5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#669513
=?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> 
> On 3/7/2026 9:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
> >>>>>> tool for human data processing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> >>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> >>>>> nearby...
> >>>>> what yous people call local time..
> >>>>
> >>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
> >>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
> >>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
> >>>> ideological idiocy.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
> >>>> as said, there is no.
> >>>
> >>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
> >>> time.
> >>>
> >>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
> >>> the end of time..
> >>>
> >>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
> >>>
> >>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
> >>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
> >>
> >> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
> >> clocks or even your...math.
> >>
> >> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
> >>
> >> Math does not represent the universe...
> >>
> >> there are numbers on a clock.
> >>
> >> throw out the numbers.
> >>
> >> throw out the clock!
> >
> >
> > Wait, where is dat clock...
> >
> > I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.
> 
> Well, yes, you can remove the numbers, hands
> and notches, or just smash it. But no, you
> can't add stars.



What do you mean you can't add stars? Our Sun/Star is used by clocks to
indicate time.

12:pm means the star is up there all the way. 

I'm a clock
The universe is a clock...

remove the face of the universe and it reveals
the mechanics of the universe...

remove the face of the clock...
samething.

remove the face of a woman
samething.

it's all...machines.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669527

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-07 09:51 -0800
Message-ID<69AC659E.E1F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#669526
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >
> > On 3/7/2026 9:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
> > >>>>>> tool for human data processing.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> > >>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> > >>>>> nearby...
> > >>>>> what yous people call local time..
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
> > >>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
> > >>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
> > >>>> ideological idiocy.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
> > >>>> as said, there is no.
> > >>>
> > >>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
> > >>> time.
> > >>>
> > >>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
> > >>> the end of time..
> > >>>
> > >>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
> > >>>
> > >>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
> > >>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
> > >>
> > >> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
> > >> clocks or even your...math.
> > >>
> > >> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
> > >>
> > >> Math does not represent the universe...
> > >>
> > >> there are numbers on a clock.
> > >>
> > >> throw out the numbers.
> > >>
> > >> throw out the clock!
> > >
> > >
> > > Wait, where is dat clock...
> > >
> > > I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.
> >
> > Well, yes, you can remove the numbers, hands
> > and notches, or just smash it. But no, you
> > can't add stars.
> 
> What do you mean you can't add stars? Our Sun/Star is used by clocks to
> indicate time.
> 
> 12:pm means the star is up there all the way.
> 
> I'm a clock
> The universe is a clock...
> 
> remove the face of the universe and it reveals
> the mechanics of the universe...
> 
> remove the face of the clock...
> samething.
> 
> remove the face of a woman
> samething.
> 
> it's all...machines.


Here is what the universe looks like with the face removed: 

https://www.youtube.com/embed/IkCku4TM8HA?autoplay=1



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669528

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-07 10:02 -0800
Message-ID<69AC681C.3BF0@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#669527
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >
> > > On 3/7/2026 9:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
> > > >>>>>> tool for human data processing.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> > > >>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> > > >>>>> nearby...
> > > >>>>> what yous people call local time..
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
> > > >>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
> > > >>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
> > > >>>> ideological idiocy.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
> > > >>>> as said, there is no.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
> > > >>> time.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
> > > >>> the end of time..
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
> > > >>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
> > > >>
> > > >> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
> > > >> clocks or even your...math.
> > > >>
> > > >> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
> > > >>
> > > >> Math does not represent the universe...
> > > >>
> > > >> there are numbers on a clock.
> > > >>
> > > >> throw out the numbers.
> > > >>
> > > >> throw out the clock!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Wait, where is dat clock...
> > > >
> > > > I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.
> > >
> > > Well, yes, you can remove the numbers, hands
> > > and notches, or just smash it. But no, you
> > > can't add stars.
> >
> > What do you mean you can't add stars? Our Sun/Star is used by clocks to
> > indicate time.
> >
> > 12:pm means the star is up there all the way.
> >
> > I'm a clock
> > The universe is a clock...
> >
> > remove the face of the universe and it reveals
> > the mechanics of the universe...
> >
> > remove the face of the clock...
> > samething.
> >
> > remove the face of a woman
> > samething.
> >
> > it's all...machines.
> 
> Here is what the universe looks like with the face removed:
 
 https://www.youtube.com/embed/IkCku4TM8HA


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669529

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-07 10:47 -0800
Message-ID<69AC72CF.76C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#669528
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 3/7/2026 9:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
> > > > >>>>>> tool for human data processing.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> > > > >>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> > > > >>>>> nearby...
> > > > >>>>> what yous people call local time..
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
> > > > >>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
> > > > >>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
> > > > >>>> ideological idiocy.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
> > > > >>>> as said, there is no.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
> > > > >>> time.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
> > > > >>> the end of time..
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
> > > > >>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
> > > > >> clocks or even your...math.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Math does not represent the universe...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> there are numbers on a clock.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> throw out the numbers.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> throw out the clock!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Wait, where is dat clock...
> > > > >
> > > > > I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.
> > > >
> > > > Well, yes, you can remove the numbers, hands
> > > > and notches, or just smash it. But no, you
> > > > can't add stars.
> > >
> > > What do you mean you can't add stars? Our Sun/Star is used by clocks to
> > > indicate time.
> > >
> > > 12:pm means the star is up there all the way.
> > >
> > > I'm a clock
> > > The universe is a clock...
> > >
> > > remove the face of the universe and it reveals
> > > the mechanics of the universe...
> > >
> > > remove the face of the clock...
> > > samething.
> > >
> > > remove the face of a woman
> > > samething.
> > >
> > > it's all...machines.
> >
> > Here is what the universe looks like with the face removed:
> 
>  https://www.youtube.com/embed/IkCku4TM8HA




You peoples are forgetting
people used stars before clocks...

water clocks
candles
sandclocks

to measure the time of the universe you need a...

StarClock

ClockUniverse


What time does the Big Dipper say it is????

A light year is NOT a distant measurement...it's a time measurement.


The universe is ...not that big..it's an illusion. An illusion of
bigness..

it's probably only two inches long.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669530

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-03-07 23:35 +0100
Message-ID<189aaffd4f60e047$918725$3722891$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#669529
On 3/7/2026 7:47 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/7/2026 9:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
>>>>>>>>>>> tool for human data processing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
>>>>>>>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
>>>>>>>>>> nearby...
>>>>>>>>>> what yous people call local time..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
>>>>>>>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
>>>>>>>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
>>>>>>>>> ideological idiocy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
>>>>>>>>> as said, there is no.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
>>>>>>>> the end of time..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
>>>>>>>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
>>>>>>> clocks or even your...math.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Math does not represent the universe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> there are numbers on a clock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> throw out the numbers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> throw out the clock!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wait, where is dat clock...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, yes, you can remove the numbers, hands
>>>>> and notches, or just smash it. But no, you
>>>>> can't add stars.
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean you can't add stars? Our Sun/Star is used by clocks to
>>>> indicate time.
>>>>
>>>> 12:pm means the star is up there all the way.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a clock
>>>> The universe is a clock...
>>>>
>>>> remove the face of the universe and it reveals
>>>> the mechanics of the universe...
>>>>
>>>> remove the face of the clock...
>>>> samething.
>>>>
>>>> remove the face of a woman
>>>> samething.
>>>>
>>>> it's all...machines.
>>>
>>> Here is what the universe looks like with the face removed:
>>
>>   https://www.youtube.com/embed/IkCku4TM8HA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You peoples are forgetting
> people used stars before clocks...
> 
> water clocks
> candles
> sandclocks
> 
> to measure the time of the universe you need a...
> 
> StarClock
> 
> ClockUniverse


Fortunately, there is no such thing, so
I don't need your clocks.

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#669532

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-07 14:48 -0800
Message-ID<69ACAB35.53DA@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#669530
=?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> 
> On 3/7/2026 7:47 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/7/2026 9:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
> >>>>>>>>>>> tool for human data processing.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> >>>>>>>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> >>>>>>>>>> nearby...
> >>>>>>>>>> what yous people call local time..
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
> >>>>>>>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
> >>>>>>>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
> >>>>>>>>> ideological idiocy.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
> >>>>>>>>> as said, there is no.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
> >>>>>>>> time.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
> >>>>>>>> the end of time..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
> >>>>>>>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
> >>>>>>> clocks or even your...math.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Math does not represent the universe...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> there are numbers on a clock.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> throw out the numbers.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> throw out the clock!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Wait, where is dat clock...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, yes, you can remove the numbers, hands
> >>>>> and notches, or just smash it. But no, you
> >>>>> can't add stars.
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you mean you can't add stars? Our Sun/Star is used by clocks to
> >>>> indicate time.
> >>>>
> >>>> 12:pm means the star is up there all the way.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm a clock
> >>>> The universe is a clock...
> >>>>
> >>>> remove the face of the universe and it reveals
> >>>> the mechanics of the universe...
> >>>>
> >>>> remove the face of the clock...
> >>>> samething.
> >>>>
> >>>> remove the face of a woman
> >>>> samething.
> >>>>
> >>>> it's all...machines.
> >>>
> >>> Here is what the universe looks like with the face removed:
> >>
> >>   https://www.youtube.com/embed/IkCku4TM8HA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You peoples are forgetting
> > people used stars before clocks...
> >
> > water clocks
> > candles
> > sandclocks
> >
> > to measure the time of the universe you need a...
> >
> > StarClock
> >
> > ClockUniverse
> 
> Fortunately, there is no such thing, so
> I don't need your clocks.

DialSun.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669533

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-07 16:24 -0800
Message-ID<69ACC1C1.18DF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#669532
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >
> > On 3/7/2026 7:47 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 3/7/2026 9:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
> > >>>>>>>>>>> tool for human data processing.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> > >>>>>>>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> > >>>>>>>>>> nearby...
> > >>>>>>>>>> what yous people call local time..
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
> > >>>>>>>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
> > >>>>>>>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
> > >>>>>>>>> ideological idiocy.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
> > >>>>>>>>> as said, there is no.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
> > >>>>>>>> time.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
> > >>>>>>>> the end of time..
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
> > >>>>>>>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
> > >>>>>>> clocks or even your...math.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Math does not represent the universe...
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> there are numbers on a clock.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> throw out the numbers.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> throw out the clock!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Wait, where is dat clock...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Well, yes, you can remove the numbers, hands
> > >>>>> and notches, or just smash it. But no, you
> > >>>>> can't add stars.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What do you mean you can't add stars? Our Sun/Star is used by clocks to
> > >>>> indicate time.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 12:pm means the star is up there all the way.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm a clock
> > >>>> The universe is a clock...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> remove the face of the universe and it reveals
> > >>>> the mechanics of the universe...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> remove the face of the clock...
> > >>>> samething.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> remove the face of a woman
> > >>>> samething.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> it's all...machines.
> > >>>
> > >>> Here is what the universe looks like with the face removed:
> > >>
> > >>   https://www.youtube.com/embed/IkCku4TM8HA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You peoples are forgetting
> > > people used stars before clocks...
> > >
> > > water clocks
> > > candles
> > > sandclocks
> > >
> > > to measure the time of the universe you need a...
> > >
> > > StarClock
> > >
> > > ClockUniverse
> >
> > Fortunately, there is no such thing, so
> > I don't need your clocks.
> 
> DialSun.

is a StarClock.

You're sooo close to the Sun, you might forget it's actually a ...star.

The StarDial require no batteries. And it last a long time...

you little people call it a sundial.


I just wanna know...What is the time of the universe?




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669536

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-03-07 22:44 -0800
Message-ID<69AD1ABC.6618@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#669533
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >
> > > On 3/7/2026 7:47 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On 3/7/2026 9:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> tool for human data processing.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> > > >>>>>>>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> > > >>>>>>>>>> nearby...
> > > >>>>>>>>>> what yous people call local time..
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
> > > >>>>>>>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
> > > >>>>>>>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
> > > >>>>>>>>> ideological idiocy.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
> > > >>>>>>>>> as said, there is no.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
> > > >>>>>>>> time.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
> > > >>>>>>>> the end of time..
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
> > > >>>>>>>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
> > > >>>>>>> clocks or even your...math.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Math does not represent the universe...
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> there are numbers on a clock.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> throw out the numbers.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> throw out the clock!
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Wait, where is dat clock...
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Well, yes, you can remove the numbers, hands
> > > >>>>> and notches, or just smash it. But no, you
> > > >>>>> can't add stars.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> What do you mean you can't add stars? Our Sun/Star is used by clocks to
> > > >>>> indicate time.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 12:pm means the star is up there all the way.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I'm a clock
> > > >>>> The universe is a clock...
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> remove the face of the universe and it reveals
> > > >>>> the mechanics of the universe...
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> remove the face of the clock...
> > > >>>> samething.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> remove the face of a woman
> > > >>>> samething.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> it's all...machines.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Here is what the universe looks like with the face removed:
> > > >>
> > > >>   https://www.youtube.com/embed/IkCku4TM8HA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You peoples are forgetting
> > > > people used stars before clocks...
> > > >
> > > > water clocks
> > > > candles
> > > > sandclocks
> > > >
> > > > to measure the time of the universe you need a...
> > > >
> > > > StarClock
> > > >
> > > > ClockUniverse
> > >
> > > Fortunately, there is no such thing, so
> > > I don't need your clocks.
> >
> > DialSun.
> 
> is a StarClock.
> 
> You're sooo close to the Sun, you might forget it's actually a ...star.
> 
> The StarDial require no batteries. And it last a long time...
> 
> you little people call it a sundial.
> 
> I just wanna know...What is the time of the universe?

Now, is there anything 'local' about a sundial? There are sundials
everywhere in the universe!

The motion of shadows in the universe can tell time.





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#669542

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-03-08 12:01 +0100
Message-ID<189ad8b7fba4d4b4$462323$71155$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#669533
On 3/8/2026 1:24 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3/7/2026 7:47 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/7/2026 9:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool for human data processing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nearby...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what yous people call local time..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
>>>>>>>>>>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
>>>>>>>>>>>> ideological idiocy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
>>>>>>>>>>>> as said, there is no.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
>>>>>>>>>>> the end of time..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
>>>>>>>>>>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
>>>>>>>>>> clocks or even your...math.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Math does not represent the universe...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> there are numbers on a clock.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> throw out the numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> throw out the clock!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wait, where is dat clock...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, yes, you can remove the numbers, hands
>>>>>>>> and notches, or just smash it. But no, you
>>>>>>>> can't add stars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you mean you can't add stars? Our Sun/Star is used by clocks to
>>>>>>> indicate time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 12:pm means the star is up there all the way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm a clock
>>>>>>> The universe is a clock...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> remove the face of the universe and it reveals
>>>>>>> the mechanics of the universe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> remove the face of the clock...
>>>>>>> samething.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> remove the face of a woman
>>>>>>> samething.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it's all...machines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is what the universe looks like with the face removed:
>>>>>
>>>>>    https://www.youtube.com/embed/IkCku4TM8HA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You peoples are forgetting
>>>> people used stars before clocks...
>>>>
>>>> water clocks
>>>> candles
>>>> sandclocks
>>>>
>>>> to measure the time of the universe you need a...
>>>>
>>>> StarClock
>>>>
>>>> ClockUniverse
>>>
>>> Fortunately, there is no such thing, so
>>> I don't need your clocks.
>>
>> DialSun.
> 
> is a StarClock.
> 
> You're sooo close to the Sun, you might forget it's actually a ...star.
> 
> The StarDial require no batteries. And it last a long time...
> 
> you little people call it a sundial.
> 
> 
> I just wanna know...What is the time of the universe?

It is a mystical delusion; dealing too much
with physics and physicists may end with that.


> 
> 
> 
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#669512

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-03-07 11:12 +0100
Message-ID<189a877a7cb0099f$408309$3719901$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#669509
On 3/7/2026 9:16 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
>>>>>
>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
>>>>> tool for human data processing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
>>>> nearby...
>>>> what yous people call local time..
>>>
>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
>>> ideological idiocy.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
>>>
>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
>>> as said, there is no.
>>
>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
>> time.
>>
>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
>> the end of time..
>>
>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
>>
>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
> 
> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
> clocks or even your...math.


As it is just some mystical delusion - sure.

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