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What came first the stars or the earth?

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  What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-04 14:40 -0700
    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-09-04 16:26 -0700
      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-05 08:16 +0200
      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-05 11:05 +0200
        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-05 09:41 -0700
    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-04 23:39 -0700
      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 14:31 -0700
        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-06 10:39 +0200
          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-06 12:56 +0000
            Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-07 10:26 +0200
              Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-07 08:37 +0000
                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-09 08:35 +0200
                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-09 14:38 +0000
                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-12 07:51 +0200
                      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-12 05:56 +0000
                        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-13 08:33 +0200
                          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-13 08:45 +0000
                            Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-14 10:25 +0200
                              Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-14 20:21 +0000
                                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-15 08:38 +0200
                                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-15 21:25 +0200
                                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 22:26 +0200
                                      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-16 20:07 +0200
                                        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-16 20:20 +0200
                                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-15 13:01 -0700
                                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-15 13:29 -0700
                                      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 22:49 +0200
                                        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-15 14:13 -0700
                                          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-16 06:55 +0200
                                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-09-15 17:16 +0000
                                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-15 17:28 +0000
                                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-09-15 18:35 +0000
                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-09 11:54 -0700
              Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-08 14:23 +0200
                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-10 10:40 +0200
                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-10 20:57 +0200
                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-10 21:25 +0200
                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-12 08:07 +0200
                      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-12 12:54 +0200
                        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-12 12:58 +0200
                          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-12 14:27 +0200
                            Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-12 14:31 +0200
                              Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-13 14:06 +0200
                                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-13 14:08 +0200
                                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-13 12:31 +0000
                                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-15 20:01 +0200
                                      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 21:01 +0200
                        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-13 09:05 +0200
                          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-13 21:37 +0200
                            Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-13 22:23 +0200
                              Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-13 20:30 +0000
                                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-14 06:34 +0200
                                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-14 07:44 +0000
                                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-14 10:36 +0200
                                      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-14 10:35 +0000
                                        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-14 13:16 +0200
                              Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-14 11:13 +0200
                                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-14 12:14 +0200
                                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-14 21:10 +0200
                                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-14 22:56 +0200
                                      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-15 12:04 +0200
                                        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 16:09 +0200
                          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-15 13:37 +0200
                            Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-16 08:33 +0200
                              Re: What came first the stars or the earth? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-16 11:42 +0200
                                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-16 09:35 -0700
                                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Dwan Szczepanski <aan@ezz.pl> - 2025-09-17 10:56 +0000
          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-06 18:10 +0200
          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 13:29 -0700
            Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-07 10:34 +0200
          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-08 14:24 +0200
        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-06 11:14 +0200
        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-06 09:53 -0700
          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 13:34 -0700
            Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-06 16:37 -0700
              Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-07 14:11 -0700
                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-08 09:53 -0700
                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-08 12:10 -0700
                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-09 12:20 -0700
                      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-09 12:59 -0700
                        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-09 13:33 -0700
                          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-09 14:16 -0700
                            Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-09 16:26 -0700
                              Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-09 16:29 -0700
                                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-10 13:18 -0700
                                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-11 10:01 -0700
                                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-11 14:19 -0700
                                      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-11 22:29 -0700
                                        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-12 11:11 -0700
                                          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-12 11:25 -0700
                                          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-09-12 12:05 -0700
                                            Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-12 13:40 -0700
                                              Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-09-12 13:55 -0700
                                                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-12 15:40 -0700
                                                  Re: What came first the stars or the earth? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-09-12 15:54 -0700
                                                    Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-12 22:31 -0700
                                                      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-16 09:56 -0700
                                      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-14 00:40 -0700
                                        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-14 12:54 -0700
                                          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-14 20:24 -0700
                                            Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-15 10:48 -0700
                                              Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-16 10:04 -0700
                                                Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-16 15:11 -0700
                                          Re: What came first the stars or the earth? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-14 20:27 -0700
      Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-06 10:06 -0700
        Re: What came first the stars or the earth? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-06 16:48 -0700

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#665887

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-09 13:33 -0700
Message-ID<pf31ckpqg23djshh0uoo5d511t1al74moc@4ax.com>
In reply to#665885
On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
<chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>>>>>
>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>>>> highly engineered????
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>>>> means??
>>>
>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>> 
>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>
>They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.


If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
first the stars or the earth?

I already posted the answer the Earth came first.

And it already had an ocean.

So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.


Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.

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#665889

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-09 14:16 -0700
Message-ID<109q5en$18783$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#665887
On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>>>>> highly engineered????
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>>>>> means??
>>>>
>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>>>
>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>>
>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
> 
> 
> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
> first the stars or the earth?
> 
> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
> 
> And it already had an ocean.
> 
> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
> 
> 
> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
> 
> 

Stars came first?

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#665890

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-09 16:26 -0700
Message-ID<mnd1ckhhtsphsgern1l95p2fo62qjtc8u5@4ax.com>
In reply to#665889
On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:16:07 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
<chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>>>>>> highly engineered????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>>>>>> means??
>>>>>
>>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>>>>
>>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>>>
>>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
>> 
>> 
>> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
>> first the stars or the earth?
>> 
>> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
>> 
>> And it already had an ocean.
>> 
>> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
>> 
>> 
>> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
>> 
>> 
>
>Stars came first?


The Earth came first, then stars were born...Let there be light.

Do I need to repost the 'order of events'? What your first language??
Afaganastan???

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#665891

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-09 16:29 -0700
Message-ID<cvd1ckt80lhul8ra9s4ietni0pbb2l6fv5@4ax.com>
In reply to#665890
On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:26:36 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:16:07 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
><chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>>>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>>>>>>> highly engineered????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>>>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>>>>>>> means??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>>>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>>>>>
>>>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>>>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>>>>
>>>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
>>> first the stars or the earth?
>>> 
>>> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
>>> 
>>> And it already had an ocean.
>>> 
>>> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
>>> 
>>> 
>>
>>Stars came first?
>
>
>The Earth came first, then stars were born...Let there be light.
>
>Do I need to repost the 'order of events'? What your first language??
>Afaganastan???


Here are clearly the 'order of events':  

1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
waters.

3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light


 'order of events':

Earth
Water
Light

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#665911

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-10 13:18 -0700
Message-ID<109smeh$21d4i$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#665891
On 9/9/2025 4:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:26:36 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:16:07 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>>>>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>>>>>>>> highly engineered????
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>>>>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>>>>>>>> means??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>>>>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>>>>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>>>>>
>>>>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
>>>> first the stars or the earth?
>>>>
>>>> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
>>>>
>>>> And it already had an ocean.
>>>>
>>>> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Stars came first?
>>
>>
>> The Earth came first, then stars were born...Let there be light.
>>
>> Do I need to repost the 'order of events'? What your first language??
>> Afaganastan???
> 
> 
> Here are clearly the 'order of events':
> 
> 1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
> 
> 2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
> waters.
> 
> 3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light

[...]

Humm. Not sure how to respond to that line of thought. I still think 
stars came first? Humm.

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#665929

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-11 10:01 -0700
Message-ID<7pv5ck5kflb03ubdi0siv0mqb5jnotqcnl@4ax.com>
In reply to#665911
On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:18:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
<chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 9/9/2025 4:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:26:36 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:16:07 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>>>>>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>>>>>>>>> highly engineered????
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>>>>>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>>>>>>>>> means??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>>>>>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>>>>>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
>>>>> first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>
>>>>> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
>>>>>
>>>>> And it already had an ocean.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stars came first?
>>>
>>>
>>> The Earth came first, then stars were born...Let there be light.
>>>
>>> Do I need to repost the 'order of events'? What your first language??
>>> Afaganastan???
>> 
>> 
>> Here are clearly the 'order of events':
>> 
>> 1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>> 
>> 2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
>> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
>> waters.
>> 
>> 3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
>
>[...]
>
>Humm. Not sure how to respond to that line of thought. I still think 
>stars came first? Humm.

Is that just a 'feeling' you have, or is it based on Science that
stars came first?


Okay, I'll make it easy for you..

What came first, Night or Day?





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#665957

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-11 14:19 -0700
Message-ID<109ved6$2uqhi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#665929
On 9/11/2025 10:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:18:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/9/2025 4:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:26:36 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:16:07 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>>>>>>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>>>>>>>>>> highly engineered????
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>>>>>>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>>>>>>>>>> means??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>>>>>>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>>>>>>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
>>>>>> first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And it already had an ocean.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stars came first?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Earth came first, then stars were born...Let there be light.
>>>>
>>>> Do I need to repost the 'order of events'? What your first language??
>>>> Afaganastan???
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are clearly the 'order of events':
>>>
>>> 1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>>>
>>> 2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
>>> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
>>> waters.
>>>
>>> 3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Humm. Not sure how to respond to that line of thought. I still think
>> stars came first? Humm.
> 
> Is that just a 'feeling' you have, or is it based on Science that
> stars came first?

Stellar nurseries came first.


> Okay, I'll make it easy for you..
> 
> What came first, Night or Day?

Both! Depends on the rotating planet?

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#665962

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-11 22:29 -0700
Message-ID<oob7ck1tjdm243sqvojju1ki0o02k0d7kg@4ax.com>
In reply to#665957
On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 14:19:33 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
<chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 9/11/2025 10:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:18:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/9/2025 4:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:26:36 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:16:07 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>>>>>>>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>>>>>>>>>>> highly engineered????
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>>>>>>>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>>>>>>>>>>> means??
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>>>>>>>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>>>>>>>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
>>>>>>> first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it already had an ocean.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stars came first?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Earth came first, then stars were born...Let there be light.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I need to repost the 'order of events'? What your first language??
>>>>> Afaganastan???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here are clearly the 'order of events':
>>>>
>>>> 1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>>>>
>>>> 2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
>>>> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
>>>> waters.
>>>>
>>>> 3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Humm. Not sure how to respond to that line of thought. I still think
>>> stars came first? Humm.
>> 
>> Is that just a 'feeling' you have, or is it based on Science that
>> stars came first?
>
>Stellar nurseries came first.
>
>
>> Okay, I'll make it easy for you..
>> 
>> What came first, Night or Day?
>
>Both! Depends on the rotating planet?

What came first the Earth or our Sun?

dis is not a race horse where one wins by a nose...a photo finish
requires a camera...not a guess.

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#665992

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-12 11:11 -0700
Message-ID<5sn8ck943tsp4u7j07r8g7fg1t4qdhsmdv@4ax.com>
In reply to#665962
On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 22:29:17 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 14:19:33 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
><chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 9/11/2025 10:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:18:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 9/9/2025 4:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:26:36 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:16:07 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>>>>>>>>>>>> highly engineered????
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>>>>>>>>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>>>>>>>>>>>> means??
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>>>>>>>>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>>>>>>>>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
>>>>>>>> first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And it already had an ocean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stars came first?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Earth came first, then stars were born...Let there be light.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do I need to repost the 'order of events'? What your first language??
>>>>>> Afaganastan???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are clearly the 'order of events':
>>>>>
>>>>> 1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
>>>>> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
>>>>> waters.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Humm. Not sure how to respond to that line of thought. I still think
>>>> stars came first? Humm.
>>> 
>>> Is that just a 'feeling' you have, or is it based on Science that
>>> stars came first?
>>
>>Stellar nurseries came first.
>>
>>
>>> Okay, I'll make it easy for you..
>>> 
>>> What came first, Night or Day?
>>
>>Both! Depends on the rotating planet?
>
>What came first the Earth or our Sun?
>
>dis is not a race horse where one wins by a nose...a photo finish
>requires a camera...not a guess.

i meant, what is the age of our sun..

compare it with the age of the earth (or our earth)

is it a photo finish? who won by a nose? 

i want to see the photo finish.


Now, God  moved upon the face of the
 waters of the earth and ...
then he 'prompt'; , Let there be light: and there was light.

Prompt engineering is the practice of designing, developing, and
optimizing text-based inputs (prompts) to guide generative AI models,
like large universe models , toward producing desired and accurate
outputs. 





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#665993

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-12 11:25 -0700
Message-ID<gjo8ck9p4ij4i02i156r2g31mb8vmiqfr9@4ax.com>
In reply to#665992
On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 11:11:03 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 22:29:17 -0700, The Starmaker
><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 14:19:33 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>><chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 9/11/2025 10:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:18:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/9/2025 4:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:26:36 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:16:07 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly engineered????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means??
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>>>>>>>>>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>>>>>>>>>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
>>>>>>>>> first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And it already had an ocean.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stars came first?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Earth came first, then stars were born...Let there be light.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do I need to repost the 'order of events'? What your first language??
>>>>>>> Afaganastan???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are clearly the 'order of events':
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
>>>>>> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
>>>>>> waters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Humm. Not sure how to respond to that line of thought. I still think
>>>>> stars came first? Humm.
>>>> 
>>>> Is that just a 'feeling' you have, or is it based on Science that
>>>> stars came first?
>>>
>>>Stellar nurseries came first.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Okay, I'll make it easy for you..
>>>> 
>>>> What came first, Night or Day?
>>>
>>>Both! Depends on the rotating planet?
>>
>>What came first the Earth or our Sun?
>>
>>dis is not a race horse where one wins by a nose...a photo finish
>>requires a camera...not a guess.
>
>i meant, what is the age of our sun..
>
>compare it with the age of the earth (or our earth)
>
>is it a photo finish? who won by a nose? 
>
>i want to see the photo finish.
>
>
>Now, God  moved upon the face of the
> waters of the earth and ...
>then he 'prompt'; , Let there be light: and there was light.
>
>Prompt engineering is the practice of designing, developing, and
>optimizing text-based inputs (prompts) to guide generative AI models,
>like large universe models , toward producing desired and accurate
>outputs. 
>
>
>
>
>

Hope you understand in order for our Sun to become a Star..it first
has to 'ignite'...and that takes time...and it has to have a reason to
ignite...it first needs an earth to boil.

To boil an egg
you first put it in 
a pot of water
place the pot
on the stove...
and turn it on..
boot it up.

Then life begins.

Now, you Chris seem to have
lost your way..

1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.


Do you see the words between heavens/earth?

It reads: "and the"


The definition for the words  "and the" means...AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!


It means the heavens and the earth were created...AT THE SAME
TIME!!!!!


You know what the earth is, do you know the "heavens" is??? It's the
sky above you, NOT Heaven where you ain't going!





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#665994

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2025-09-12 12:05 -0700
Message-ID<1h7epl-cnju1.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#665992
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

<snip old crap>

> i meant, what is the age of our sun..

4.567 +/- 0.003 billion years.

> 
> compare it with the age of the earth (or our earth)

4.54 +/- 0.05 billion years.

> 
> is it a photo finish? who won by a nose? 

I wouldn't call a difference of 27,000,000 years "by a nose".

<snip remaining crap>


-- 
penninojim@yahoo.com

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#665997

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-12 13:40 -0700
Message-ID<68C48529.A7A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#665994
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> <snip old crap>
> 
> > i meant, what is the age of our sun..
> 
> 4.567 +/- 0.003 billion years.
> 
> >
> > compare it with the age of the earth (or our earth)
> 
> 4.54 +/- 0.05 billion years.
> 
> >
> > is it a photo finish? who won by a nose?
> 
> I wouldn't call a difference of 27,000,000 years "by a nose".

> penninojim@yahoo.com


If you understand Relativity...by a nose would mean by a slim margin measurement of...Time.


But everyone knows the 'scientific community' tweaks the numbers based on bias confirmation science techniques.


Hollywood accounting they call it...


 










-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#665998

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2025-09-12 13:55 -0700
Message-ID<bvdepl-c4tu1.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#665997
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>> 
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> <snip old crap>
>> 
>> > i meant, what is the age of our sun..
>> 
>> 4.567 +/- 0.003 billion years.
>> 
>> >
>> > compare it with the age of the earth (or our earth)
>> 
>> 4.54 +/- 0.05 billion years.
>> 
>> >
>> > is it a photo finish? who won by a nose?
>> 
>> I wouldn't call a difference of 27,000,000 years "by a nose".
> 
>> penninojim@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> If you understand Relativity...by a nose would mean by a slim margin measurement of...Time.
> 

If you understand Relativity you know it is irrelevant to this
discussion.

<snip remaining idiocy>

-- 
penninojim@yahoo.com

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#666000

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-12 15:40 -0700
Message-ID<o089ck1rvnbqsc8njqeelpkuvum9io259l@4ax.com>
In reply to#665998
On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 13:55:41 -0700, Jim Pennino
<jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> wrote:

>In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> Jim Pennino wrote:
>>> 
>>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> <snip old crap>
>>> 
>>> > i meant, what is the age of our sun..
>>> 
>>> 4.567 +/- 0.003 billion years.
>>> 
>>> >
>>> > compare it with the age of the earth (or our earth)
>>> 
>>> 4.54 +/- 0.05 billion years.
>>> 
>>> >
>>> > is it a photo finish? who won by a nose?
>>> 
>>> I wouldn't call a difference of 27,000,000 years "by a nose".
>> 
>>> penninojim@yahoo.com
>> 
>> 
>> If you understand Relativity...by a nose would mean by a slim margin measurement of...Time.
>> 
>
>If you understand Relativity you know it is irrelevant to this
>discussion.
>
><snip remaining idiocy>

If you understand..."by a nose" it means:

'by a nose'
By an extremely short or slim margin (of distance, time, or another
measure).
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/by+a+nose


Now, get out your tweak calculators

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#666001

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2025-09-12 15:54 -0700
Message-ID<7tkepl-k95v1.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#666000
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 13:55:41 -0700, Jim Pennino
> <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> Jim Pennino wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> <snip old crap>
>>>> 
>>>> > i meant, what is the age of our sun..
>>>> 
>>>> 4.567 +/- 0.003 billion years.
>>>> 
>>>> >
>>>> > compare it with the age of the earth (or our earth)
>>>> 
>>>> 4.54 +/- 0.05 billion years.
>>>> 
>>>> >
>>>> > is it a photo finish? who won by a nose?
>>>> 
>>>> I wouldn't call a difference of 27,000,000 years "by a nose".
>>> 
>>>> penninojim@yahoo.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you understand Relativity...by a nose would mean by a slim margin measurement of...Time.
>>> 
>>
>>If you understand Relativity you know it is irrelevant to this
>>discussion.
>>
>><snip remaining idiocy>
> 
> If you understand..."by a nose" it means:
> 
> 'by a nose'
> By an extremely short or slim margin (of distance, time, or another
> measure).
> https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/by+a+nose

And that has what to do with relativity?

So you concider 27,000,000 years a short amount of time?

-- 
penninojim@yahoo.com

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#666003

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-12 22:31 -0700
Message-ID<68C501BD.6D6B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#666001
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 13:55:41 -0700, Jim Pennino
> > <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> wrote:
> >
> >>In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>> Jim Pennino wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> <snip old crap>
> >>>>
> >>>> > i meant, what is the age of our sun..
> >>>>
> >>>> 4.567 +/- 0.003 billion years.
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > compare it with the age of the earth (or our earth)
> >>>>
> >>>> 4.54 +/- 0.05 billion years.
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > is it a photo finish? who won by a nose?
> >>>>
> >>>> I wouldn't call a difference of 27,000,000 years "by a nose".
> >>>
> >>>> penninojim@yahoo.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If you understand Relativity...by a nose would mean by a slim margin measurement of...Time.
> >>>
> >>
> >>If you understand Relativity you know it is irrelevant to this
> >>discussion.
> >>
> >><snip remaining idiocy>
> >
> > If you understand..."by a nose" it means:
> >
> > 'by a nose'
> > By an extremely short or slim margin (of distance, time, or another
> > measure).
> > https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/by+a+nose
> 
> And that has what to do with relativity?
> 
> So you concider 27,000,000 years a short amount of time?
> 
> --
> penninojim@yahoo.com


27,000,000 years is a fake number. It's a fake photo finish.

compare it with the age of the earth (or our earth)

is it a photo finish? who won by a nose? 

i want to see the photo finish.


Now, God  moved upon the face of the
 waters of the earth and ...
then he 'prompt'; , Let there be light: and there was light.


The 'science community' is trying to move the order of events

 "waters of the earth"
"Let there be Light"


to

"Let there be Light
"waters of the earth".


>> Here are clearly the 'order of events':
>> 
>> 1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>> 
>> 2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
>> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
>> waters.
>> 
>> 3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
>


I mean, I understand the goal of the 'scientific community' is to
assasinate God so thst the Science guys want to rewrite creation...
but it ain't going to work.

There is no cure for 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.'.

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
 waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light


27,000,000 years is a fake number. And they know it. 

It's Hollywood accounting.
It's cooking the books.

Ask the Math department. They get hired by people who want ot cook books all the time.


It is the sci.math department that comes up with tweaking 27,000,000 years to keep the horse up front.


You have a totem pole. The Jewish people are on top of that totem pole, and the rest of yous who are not Jewish are
under the top of the totem pole, isn't that correct???  The Jewish people are on top of that totem pole, isn't that correct?

Yous are not even allowed to answer that question, let alone ...ask it.






-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#666113

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-16 09:56 -0700
Message-ID<hf4jcklld7n391g4hknpa54r76kft2ujae@4ax.com>
In reply to#666003
On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 22:31:41 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Jim Pennino wrote:
>> 
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 13:55:41 -0700, Jim Pennino
>> > <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>> Jim Pennino wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> <snip old crap>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > i meant, what is the age of our sun..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 4.567 +/- 0.003 billion years.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > compare it with the age of the earth (or our earth)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 4.54 +/- 0.05 billion years.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > is it a photo finish? who won by a nose?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I wouldn't call a difference of 27,000,000 years "by a nose".
>> >>>
>> >>>> penninojim@yahoo.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> If you understand Relativity...by a nose would mean by a slim margin measurement of...Time.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>If you understand Relativity you know it is irrelevant to this
>> >>discussion.
>> >>
>> >><snip remaining idiocy>
>> >
>> > If you understand..."by a nose" it means:
>> >
>> > 'by a nose'
>> > By an extremely short or slim margin (of distance, time, or another
>> > measure).
>> > https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/by+a+nose
>> 
>> And that has what to do with relativity?
>> 
>> So you concider 27,000,000 years a short amount of time?
>> 
>> --
>> penninojim@yahoo.com
>
>
>27,000,000 years is a fake number. It's a fake photo finish.
>
>compare it with the age of the earth (or our earth)
>
>is it a photo finish? who won by a nose? 
>
>i want to see the photo finish.
>
>
>Now, God  moved upon the face of the
> waters of the earth and ...
>then he 'prompt'; , Let there be light: and there was light.
>
>
>The 'science community' is trying to move the order of events
>
> "waters of the earth"
>"Let there be Light"
>
>
>to
>
>"Let there be Light
>"waters of the earth".
>
>
>>> Here are clearly the 'order of events':
>>> 
>>> 1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>>> 
>>> 2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
>>> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
>>> waters.
>>> 
>>> 3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
>>
>
>
>I mean, I understand the goal of the 'scientific community' is to
>assasinate God so thst the Science guys want to rewrite creation...
>but it ain't going to work.
>
>There is no cure for 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.'.
>
>And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
>the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
> waters.
>And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
>
>
>27,000,000 years is a fake number. And they know it. 
>
>It's Hollywood accounting.
>It's cooking the books.
>
>Ask the Math department. They get hired by people who want ot cook books all the time.
>
>
>It is the sci.math department that comes up with tweaking 27,000,000 years to keep the horse up front.
>
>
>You have a totem pole. The Jewish people are on top of that totem pole, and the rest of yous who are not Jewish are
>under the top of the totem pole, isn't that correct???  The Jewish people are on top of that totem pole, isn't that correct?
>
>Yous are not even allowed to answer that question, let alone ...ask it.


27,000,000 years is a fake number. Ask the Math department.

Here is how it works:

They get a Math guy..
and they ask him,
"How much does 2 plus 2 equal?"

The Math guy pulls down the shade
and sez, "How much do you want it to equal?"

They say "Great! You're hired to work in our Science department!!"

The Math guy ask, "What do I gotta do?"


They say,  take line number 2 and move it to number 3, and move line
number 3 to number 2.

>>> 2.    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
>>> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
>>> waters.
>>> 
>>> 3.   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light


27,000,000 years.

PUT IT IN ALL THE TEXTBOOKS!!!!


How about God equals Nothing?

A UNIVERSE FROM NOTHING, LOVE IT!!!


PUT IT IN ALL THE TEXTBOOKS!!!!




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#666050

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-14 00:40 -0700
Message-ID<68C67169.7808@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#665957
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> 
> On 9/11/2025 10:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:18:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
> > <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/9/2025 4:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:26:36 -0700, The Starmaker
> >>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:16:07 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
> >>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
> >>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
> >>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
> >>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
> >>>>>>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
> >>>>>>>>>> highly engineered????
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
> >>>>>>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
> >>>>>>>>>> means??
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
> >>>>>>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
> >>>>>>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
> >>>>>> first the stars or the earth?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And it already had an ocean.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stars came first?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The Earth came first, then stars were born...Let there be light.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do I need to repost the 'order of events'? What your first language??
> >>>> Afaganastan???
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Here are clearly the 'order of events':
> >>>
> >>> 1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
> >>>
> >>> 2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
> >>> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
> >>> waters.
> >>>
> >>> 3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Humm. Not sure how to respond to that line of thought. I still think
> >> stars came first? Humm.
> >
> > Is that just a 'feeling' you have, or is it based on Science that
> > stars came first?
> 
> Stellar nurseries came first.
> 
> > Okay, I'll make it easy for you..
> >
> > What came first, Night or Day?
> 
> Both! Depends on the rotating planet?

It takes Night and Day to make a Day.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#666062

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-09-14 12:54 -0700
Message-ID<tn6eckl4vtl2g2q4ask1q18dhqo70g848g@4ax.com>
In reply to#666050
On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 00:40:25 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> 
>> On 9/11/2025 10:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:18:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>> > <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 9/9/2025 4:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:26:36 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:16:07 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>> >>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>> >>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>> >>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>> >>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>> >>>>>>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>> >>>>>>>>>> highly engineered????
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>> >>>>>>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>> >>>>>>>>>> means??
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>> >>>>>>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>> >>>>>>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
>> >>>>>> first the stars or the earth?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> And it already had an ocean.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Stars came first?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The Earth came first, then stars were born...Let there be light.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Do I need to repost the 'order of events'? What your first language??
>> >>>> Afaganastan???
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Here are clearly the 'order of events':
>> >>>
>> >>> 1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
>> >>> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
>> >>> waters.
>> >>>
>> >>> 3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
>> >>
>> >> [...]
>> >>
>> >> Humm. Not sure how to respond to that line of thought. I still think
>> >> stars came first? Humm.
>> >
>> > Is that just a 'feeling' you have, or is it based on Science that
>> > stars came first?
>> 
>> Stellar nurseries came first.
>> 
>> > Okay, I'll make it easy for you..
>> >
>> > What came first, Night or Day?
>> 
>> Both! Depends on the rotating planet?
>
>It takes Night and Day to make a Day.

I mean, I don't understand your logic with  rotating planet.

It's night on both sides, and then There Is Light..eventually on
either side.


What was your science teacher's name in school, Stevie Wonder????

When you get home, don't you turn on the lights??

and then There Is Light.

Do you sleep with the light on?





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#666065

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-14 20:24 -0700
Message-ID<10a80u3$1m2tj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#666062
On 9/14/2025 12:54 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 00:40:25 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 9/11/2025 10:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:18:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/9/2025 4:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:26:36 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 14:16:07 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 1:33 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:59:01 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2025 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 12:10:23 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:11:40 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 4:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 13:34:25 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2025 9:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:31:10 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2025 11:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:40:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All evidence i gathered says the earth came first..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any my evidence comes from all different levels..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simpliest level..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is written, and God said, "Let there be light."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Light went on After there was First  an Ocean on earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comets with shit loads of water impacting the primordial Earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panspermia?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's interesting to me. Like fish spawning in a river or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you might as well say aliens from another planet added the water...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is too highly engineered... The fish spawning in a river or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something, seems rather "natural"? ;^)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand what you are getting at..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying the earth looks  too highly engineered, or not  too
>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly engineered????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying a million monkeys with a typewriter built the earth? Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few comets aimlessly wandering around brought all the water?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean, you brought up  Panspermia theory, do you even know what it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means??
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Life can possibly begin from a shit load of carriers impacting an "Egg",
>>>>>>>>>>>> aka, fertile planet dur the right conditions? Fair enough, or moron style?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i don't know why you are soooo upset...you are the one that comes up
>>>>>>>>>>> with these conspiracy theories of  Panspermia...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They are fun to ponder on. Is it true? I don't know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you read the Subject Heading of this thread..it reads: What came
>>>>>>>>> first the stars or the earth?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I already posted the answer the Earth came first.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And it already had an ocean.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, comets didn't exist then, since comets come from stars.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Try to keep track on the ...'order of events'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stars came first?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Earth came first, then stars were born...Let there be light.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do I need to repost the 'order of events'? What your first language??
>>>>>>> Afaganastan???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are clearly the 'order of events':
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon
>>>>>> the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the
>>>>>> waters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3   And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Humm. Not sure how to respond to that line of thought. I still think
>>>>> stars came first? Humm.
>>>>
>>>> Is that just a 'feeling' you have, or is it based on Science that
>>>> stars came first?
>>>
>>> Stellar nurseries came first.
>>>
>>>> Okay, I'll make it easy for you..
>>>>
>>>> What came first, Night or Day?
>>>
>>> Both! Depends on the rotating planet?
>>
>> It takes Night and Day to make a Day.
> 
> I mean, I don't understand your logic with  rotating planet.
> 
> It's night on both sides, and then There Is Light..eventually on
> either side.

Its night for some people on the planet and day for others. Depends on 
the rotation... :^)

> 
> 
> What was your science teacher's name in school, Stevie Wonder????
> 
> When you get home, don't you turn on the lights??
> 
> and then There Is Light.
> 
> Do you sleep with the light on?


> 

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