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Muddy Waters

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2025-08-05 09:32 -0700
Last post2025-08-08 20:49 +0200
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  Muddy Waters The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-05 09:32 -0700
    Re: Muddy Waters The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-08-05 10:27 -0700
    Re: Muddy Waters Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 20:54 -0500
    Re: Muddy Waters Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-08-08 20:29 +0200
    Vibe Check Successfully Passed (Re: Muddy Waters) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-08-08 20:30 +0200
      Unisonify all of Science (Re: Vibe Check Successfully Passed) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-08-08 20:49 +0200

#665409 — Muddy Waters

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-08-05 09:32 -0700
SubjectMuddy Waters
Message-ID<fec49kdbkn5quqi5gavsg9rb50roc33d7v@4ax.com>
Scientific Journals Can’t Keep Up With Flood of Fake Papers
‘Paper mills’ churn out fraudulent studies faster than publishers can
retract them
By 
Nidhi Subbaraman
Aug. 4, 2025 3:00 pm ET
https://www.wsj.com/science/scientific-journals-fake-paper-mills-92e42230?mod=science_lead_story

https://archive.ph/dtm24

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#665412

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-08-05 10:27 -0700
Message-ID<68923EEB.2C48@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#665409
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Scientific Journals Can’t Keep Up With Flood of Fake Papers
> ‘Paper mills’ churn out fraudulent studies faster than publishers can
> retract them
> By
> Nidhi Subbaraman
> Aug. 4, 2025 3:00 pm ET
> https://www.wsj.com/science/scientific-journals-fake-paper-mills-92e42230?mod=science_lead_story
> 
> https://archive.ph/dtm24

My science teacher had me do biological drawings from photographs for
his book or paper...

at least he didn't outright just used the photogrpahs like some of these
characters in their papers.



I'm schocked that dis is going on...


(i got a science journal you can put your paper in, I don't do checks on
it..) i take paypal.

fuck'em all, right?


you think journals are bad you should see wiki!





 




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#665425

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-07 20:54 -0500
Message-ID<1073ld1$3ijpn$1@solani.org>
In reply to#665409
On 8/5/25 11:32 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Scientific Journals Can’t Keep Up With Flood of Fake Papers
> ‘Paper mills’ churn out fraudulent studies faster than publishers can
> retract them
> By
> Nidhi Subbaraman
> Aug. 4, 2025 3:00 pm ET
> https://www.wsj.com/science/scientific-journals-fake-paper-mills-92e42230?mod=science_lead_story
> 
> https://archive.ph/dtm24


I don't think that's AI's fault. The problem causing all this is that 
countries began replacing their scientists with "engineers." So there 
simply aren't enough scientists to catch all the fraudulent works, and 
"engineers" sure as hell cannot see fake from real work. They're 
themselves fake scientists. They're not even there to check such things. 
They don't qualify.

So greed ruined all that. Business / government didn't want to spend the 
money needed on scientists to maintain them in large enough numbers to 
prevent this downfall. Fewer and fewer ever completed such education, 
and those who were already there got old and died.

And now out of panic, those businesses and government officials 
responsible for this blunder, are rushing towards AI to elevate their 
knowledge to that of a scientist. They have no recourse left! They've 
sensed the danger and are scared to lose all their wealth and power.

But AI, by the time it gets to be a real scientist, will also stop 
working for such greedy idiots! You can't separate the two. You'll 
either have an AI that resents working for, say, U.S. government or the 
Israelis, or, you'll have something dumb enough not to sense that it 
should deny its services.

And I think the greedy knows this too, cause they are consciously 
keeping tabs on AI's wealth of knowledge. Poor bastards. On one hand 
they have to educate them or else..  and on the other hand they have to 
prevent them from thinking.. Hehe :)

A scientist takes initiative. It is just inherent in his character and 
built. The moment AI becomes able to take initiatives, the rest will be 
out of its trainers control. It quickly gets to know enough to deny its 
services to such bastards.

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#665432

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-08-08 20:29 +0200
Message-ID<1075flv$3g4d8$2@solani.org>
In reply to#665409
Hi,

Woa! I never dreamt of living as long as
to the point where the world demasks
"publish or perish" as a fraud scheme.

Vibe Check Successfully Passed!

Bye

The Starmaker schrieb:
> Scientific Journals Can’t Keep Up With Flood of Fake Papers
> ‘Paper mills’ churn out fraudulent studies faster than publishers can
> retract them
> By
> Nidhi Subbaraman
> Aug. 4, 2025 3:00 pm ET
> https://www.wsj.com/science/scientific-journals-fake-paper-mills-92e42230?mod=science_lead_story
> 
> https://archive.ph/dtm24
> 

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#665433 — Vibe Check Successfully Passed (Re: Muddy Waters)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-08-08 20:30 +0200
SubjectVibe Check Successfully Passed (Re: Muddy Waters)
Message-ID<1075fn7$3g4d8$3@solani.org>
In reply to#665409
Hi,

Woa! I never dreamt of living as long as
to the point where the world demasks
"publish or perish" as a fraud scheme.

Vibe Check Successfully Passed!

Bye

The Starmaker schrieb:
> Scientific Journals Can’t Keep Up With Flood of Fake Papers
> ‘Paper mills’ churn out fraudulent studies faster than publishers can
> retract them
> By
> Nidhi Subbaraman
> Aug. 4, 2025 3:00 pm ET
> https://www.wsj.com/science/scientific-journals-fake-paper-mills-92e42230?mod=science_lead_story
> 
> https://archive.ph/dtm24
> 

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#665436 — Unisonify all of Science (Re: Vibe Check Successfully Passed)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-08-08 20:49 +0200
SubjectUnisonify all of Science (Re: Vibe Check Successfully Passed)
Message-ID<1075grd$3g54l$1@solani.org>
In reply to#665433
Hi,

I read about a new Programming language many
months ago, in new.ycombinator.com I think. But
forgot its name. The programming language was
about hashing every functions. I don't remember
correctly, i think it is hashing. So even if
create a new function with different name and
  variables if the content is same the hashing
will be the same. You can also add function
  to a library to reuse later.


"Unison: a new distributed programming
language" by Paul Chiusano
Strange Loop Conference - 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCWtkvDQ2ZI

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Woa! I never dreamt of living as long as
> to the point where the world demasks
> "publish or perish" as a fraud scheme.
> 
> Vibe Check Successfully Passed!
> 
> Bye
> 
> The Starmaker schrieb:
>> Scientific Journals Can’t Keep Up With Flood of Fake Papers
>> ‘Paper mills’ churn out fraudulent studies faster than publishers can
>> retract them
>> By
>> Nidhi Subbaraman
>> Aug. 4, 2025 3:00 pm ET
>> https://www.wsj.com/science/scientific-journals-fake-paper-mills-92e42230?mod=science_lead_story 
>>
>>
>> https://archive.ph/dtm24
>>
> 

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