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Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists?

Started byGeorge Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com>
First post2025-04-19 23:30 -0400
Last post2025-04-22 06:52 -0700
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  Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 23:30 -0400
    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-20 08:40 +0200
      Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 23:43 -0400
      Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 17:01 -0700
        Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 01:48 -0400
          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Timmy Bakikhanov <biyiv@ytyy.ru> - 2025-04-23 12:03 +0000
            Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 14:18 -0400
              Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Jaramie Murrah <hr@eaaamm.us> - 2025-04-23 20:14 +0000
              Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Macario Gasanov Koo <vaoi@aomnos.ru> - 2025-04-23 20:28 +0000
        Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 11:26 -0700
          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 11:47 -0700
          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 15:54 -0500
            Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 16:49 -0500
          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 04:53 -0400
            Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Yosvani Zobkob <zy@no.ru> - 2025-04-24 12:15 +0000
              Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 22:17 -0700
            Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 22:14 -0700
        Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-24 11:52 -0700
          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-24 23:11 -0700
          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-26 07:48 +0200
            Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-28 17:02 -0700
              Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-01 09:54 +0200
                Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-01 12:10 -0700
            Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 17:11 -0500
              Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-02 01:42 +0000
              Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-02 10:24 +0200
                Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Angus Belikovich <ibsb@vicgo.ru> - 2025-05-02 08:38 +0000
                  Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-03 10:34 +0200
                    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-03 07:51 -0700
                      Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-03 07:57 -0700
                      Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 13:58 -0500
                        Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 13:04 -0700
                          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 13:14 -0700
                          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 17:10 -0500
                            Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 11:23 -0500
                              Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 17:56 -0700
                                Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 22:32 -0500
                                  Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 09:47 -0700
                                    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 13:24 -0500
                                    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 15:42 -0500
                                      Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 15:37 -0700
                                  Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 22:21 -0700
                    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-03 14:37 -0700
                      Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Morgan Demarchis <nnrmr@scad.gr> - 2025-05-03 21:53 +0000
                      Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-04 09:16 +0200
                        Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-04 11:34 -0700
                          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 14:24 -0500
                            Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? squalk <sq@net.inv> - 2025-05-06 22:25 +0100
                          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-06 10:36 +0200
                            Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Dudley Tulakov <veu@dylal.ru> - 2025-05-06 14:11 +0000
                              Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-07 09:42 +0200
                                Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-07 09:10 -0700
                            Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-07 08:50 -0700
                              Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-08 08:49 +0200
                                Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Jorman Balakhonov <joam@almah.ru> - 2025-05-08 15:11 +0000
                            Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-07 09:19 -0700
                              Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-09 09:36 -0700
                                Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-10 10:57 -0700
                                  Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-11 10:32 -0700
                                    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-11 11:28 -0700
                                    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-11 11:54 -0700
                                      Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-11 12:20 -0700
                                        Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-12 07:43 +0200
                                          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Abe Mikhaltsev <hv@el.ru> - 2025-05-12 12:24 +0000
                                        Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-13 12:03 -0700
                                          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Presley Tomeev Katzuba <ope@eop.ru> - 2025-05-13 19:13 +0000
                                          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-13 12:32 -0700
                                          Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-13 13:34 -0700
                                    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-12 07:31 +0200
                Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 09:54 -0500
                  Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 11:21 -0700
                    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-03 10:49 +0200
    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Rosalio Muzrukov <uoo@vuuso.ru> - 2025-04-20 12:55 +0000
    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? neus <neus@elk.Net.inv> - 2025-04-20 16:51 +0100
    Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-04-22 06:52 -0700

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#663510

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-11 15:37 -0700
Message-ID<wOSdnajPT6Qou7z1nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#663508
On 05/11/2025 01:42 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 5/6/25 11:47 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> On 05/05/2025 08:32 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 5/5/25 7:56 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>> On 05/05/2025 09:23 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>> On 5/4/25 5:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/4/25 3:04 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 05/04/2025 11:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/3/25 9:51 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> That the meso-Americans and Mediterraneans were connected
>>>>>>>>> by the Atlanteans in the ante-Deluvean Bronze Age cross-Atlantic
>>>>>>>>> Bronze Age trade, circa 5000-10000 BC, and that the meso-Americans
>>>>>>>>> and Mediterreans share both languages and scripts and pyramids
>>>>>>>>> and as from the trail from Peru as with regards to the separate
>>>>>>>>> Northern population what is of the red, yellow, white, and brown
>>>>>>>>> peoples of about the Noachic and Vedic variously, is a bit lost
>>>>>>>>> in the mists of time yet definitely has that the meso-Americans
>>>>>>>>> and Mediterraneans have a cross-Atlantic bridge not explained
>>>>>>>>> by the Alaska land bridge, nor Micro-nesian island hopping.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you give a source for that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you'd like Allen's "Star Names: Their Lore and Meaning",
>>>>>>> or something like on Atlantis studies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mostly commonalities in the names and legends of astronomy,
>>>>>>> and as well the written scripts, then what most survived
>>>>>>> is Bronze Age artifacts, all up and down the Missouri,
>>>>>>> including to the Great Lakes, and not just around the Mediterranean,
>>>>>>> also pretty much all the coast of Europe, Bronze Age.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are archaeological discoveries about the scripts and
>>>>>>> cultures and artifacts and what could not simply be coincidence.
>>>>>>> More than merely the pyramids.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allen's "Star Names" helps explore the world-wide commonalities,
>>>>>>> since the pre-historical, and various studies of Bronze Age
>>>>>>> of the pre-historical, yet archaeologically evident in crafts
>>>>>>> and particularly scripts, and in language.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mostly Bronze Age artifacts, and particularly surviving elements
>>>>>>> of scripts, besides things like the pyramid builders.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> People these days can't see much of stars on the sky or celestial
>>>>>>> objects, yet since antiquity it was the common open book,
>>>>>>> and the names and stories are remarkably common in all cultures.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not my business and not relevant here: that mathematics and
>>>>>>> natural science though is also common since antiquity, and
>>>>>>> the premier theories of the day are a remarkable combination
>>>>>>> of profound depth of data and a too-severe abstraction,
>>>>>>> and periods of destruction, vandalism, and appropriation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I downloaded the book. A large book written in 1800's !... I'm not
>>>>>> that sure it doesn't miss a ton of newer facts known since. But I'll
>>>>>> give it a try reading it. If you didn't see me on usenet, I've been
>>>>>> reading this book. Kosmanson is an exception though. Kosmanson rules
>>>>>> my usenet activity for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No. Too old.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of those books that I'd read only if I'm incarcerated, with no
>>>>> other
>>>>> book whatsoever within reach.
>>>>>
>>>>> There has to be a newer better book on the subject. Better thought
>>>>> over.
>>>>> Better researched.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's the one there is.
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure that one's the best in class.
>>>>
>>>> (All the historical names of the stars, and about stories
>>>> about, for example, the Pleiades, a survey of the visible sky.)
>>>>
>>>> It's not meant to be something like Herschel's catalog
>>>> or all of Messier's objects.
>>>>
>>>> Is that a, usual condition?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you just read ads abs?
>>>> https://adsabs.harvard.edu/ads_abstracts.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do AGI-BOTS ponder the ineffable?  Yeah, they may.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How the hell did you even find this book? Do you inherit an underground
>>> library below your house where you still keep your great grandfather's
>>> books in? How can one come across this book in a logical way?
>>>
>>> Did you swipe it in the Vatican?
>>>
>>> Hehe :) I'm not being silly.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I found that edition at a book store, or perhaps book fair.
>>
>> I've collected about a ton of books, thousands and thousands.
>>
>> I'm pretty discriminating, not discriminatory/incriminatory,
>> in what I think is a good book.
>>
>> (I haven't bought anything on-line, at all, since about
>> ten years, though, acquired several thousands volumes books.)
>>
>> The book-collecting is sort of a lifetime pastime.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_collecting
>>
>> I found it from looking for good books.
>>
>>
>> One time Carl Sagan wrote a book, and in it,
>> he wrote, that besides the cranial capacity,
>> the only reason humans have intelligence, is books.
>>
>> Of course he probably said that a bunch of times.
>>
>> A usual practiced reader's reading is on the order
>> of ten-infinity times as fast as the maximum rate
>> of the spoken word.
>>
>>
>> Try spending a few days in a university library,
>> it's called learning something.
>>
>>
>> I suppose it's like the idea of "the royal road to
>> geometry", whether there's a royal road, i.e., an
>> easy way, to geometry.
>>
>> There is: the long way to the top.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Access to papers in a university library is nice, and is closer to
> "learning something" than piling tons of books. The latter is Tsundoku.
> Look it up. It is just a collecting hobby, not learning.
>
>
>
>

Oh, you mean a university library?

Or just a relevant technical section?

A representative sampling? A thorough coverage?

I already have a library, thanks though.

Descartes in his preface to his The Principles of Philosophy,
the other day, emitted this sort of utterance.


"There have been, indeed, in all ages great minds who
endeavored to find a fifth road to wisdom, incomparably
more sure and elevated than the other four. The path they
essayed was the search of first causes and true principles;
from which might be deduced the reasons of all that can
be known by man; and it is to them the appellation of
philosophers has been more especially accorded. I am not
aware of any up to the present who has succeeded in this
enterprise."



There's a great bit about half-Aristotleans.
That Aristotle would disown them, ....




"I well know, likewise, that many ages may elapse ere all
the truths deducible from these principles are evolved out
of them, as well because the greater number of such are
as remain to be discovered depend on certain particular
experiments that never occur by chance, but which require
to be investigated with care and expense by men of the
highest intelligence, as because it will hardly happen that
the same persons who have a sagacity to make a right use
of them, will possess also the means of making them, and
also because the majority of the best minds have formed so
low an estimate of philosophy in general, from the imperfections
they have remarked in the kind in vogue up to the present time,
that they cannot apply themselves to the search after truth.
But, in conclusion if the difference discernible between
the principles in question and those of every other system,
and the great array of truths deducible from them, lead them
to discerning the importance of continuing the search after
these truths, and to observe the degree of wisdom, the
perfection and felicity of life, to which they are fitted to
conduct us, I venture to believe that there will not be found
one who is not ready to labour hard in so profitable a study,
or at least to favour and aid with all his might those who
shall devote themselves to it with success.
The height of my wishes is, that posterity may sometime
behold the happy issue of it, etc." -- Renee "Renatus" DesCartes



Yeah, thanks DesCartes.


"Sagacity", it's called.


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#663401

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-06 22:21 -0700
Message-ID<0u-cnXt2pK4jcIf1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#663379
On 05/05/2025 08:32 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 5/5/25 7:56 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> On 05/05/2025 09:23 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 5/4/25 5:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> On 5/4/25 3:04 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>> On 05/04/2025 11:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/3/25 9:51 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>>>> That the meso-Americans and Mediterraneans were connected
>>>>>>> by the Atlanteans in the ante-Deluvean Bronze Age cross-Atlantic
>>>>>>> Bronze Age trade, circa 5000-10000 BC, and that the meso-Americans
>>>>>>> and Mediterreans share both languages and scripts and pyramids
>>>>>>> and as from the trail from Peru as with regards to the separate
>>>>>>> Northern population what is of the red, yellow, white, and brown
>>>>>>> peoples of about the Noachic and Vedic variously, is a bit lost
>>>>>>> in the mists of time yet definitely has that the meso-Americans
>>>>>>> and Mediterraneans have a cross-Atlantic bridge not explained
>>>>>>> by the Alaska land bridge, nor Micro-nesian island hopping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you give a source for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you'd like Allen's "Star Names: Their Lore and Meaning",
>>>>> or something like on Atlantis studies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mostly commonalities in the names and legends of astronomy,
>>>>> and as well the written scripts, then what most survived
>>>>> is Bronze Age artifacts, all up and down the Missouri,
>>>>> including to the Great Lakes, and not just around the Mediterranean,
>>>>> also pretty much all the coast of Europe, Bronze Age.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are archaeological discoveries about the scripts and
>>>>> cultures and artifacts and what could not simply be coincidence.
>>>>> More than merely the pyramids.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Allen's "Star Names" helps explore the world-wide commonalities,
>>>>> since the pre-historical, and various studies of Bronze Age
>>>>> of the pre-historical, yet archaeologically evident in crafts
>>>>> and particularly scripts, and in language.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mostly Bronze Age artifacts, and particularly surviving elements
>>>>> of scripts, besides things like the pyramid builders.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> People these days can't see much of stars on the sky or celestial
>>>>> objects, yet since antiquity it was the common open book,
>>>>> and the names and stories are remarkably common in all cultures.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not my business and not relevant here: that mathematics and
>>>>> natural science though is also common since antiquity, and
>>>>> the premier theories of the day are a remarkable combination
>>>>> of profound depth of data and a too-severe abstraction,
>>>>> and periods of destruction, vandalism, and appropriation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I downloaded the book. A large book written in 1800's !... I'm not
>>>> that sure it doesn't miss a ton of newer facts known since. But I'll
>>>> give it a try reading it. If you didn't see me on usenet, I've been
>>>> reading this book. Kosmanson is an exception though. Kosmanson rules
>>>> my usenet activity for now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No. Too old.
>>>
>>> One of those books that I'd read only if I'm incarcerated, with no other
>>> book whatsoever within reach.
>>>
>>> There has to be a newer better book on the subject. Better thought over.
>>> Better researched.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That's the one there is.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that one's the best in class.
>>
>> (All the historical names of the stars, and about stories
>> about, for example, the Pleiades, a survey of the visible sky.)
>>
>> It's not meant to be something like Herschel's catalog
>> or all of Messier's objects.
>>
>> Is that a, usual condition?
>>
>>
>> Why don't you just read ads abs?
>> https://adsabs.harvard.edu/ads_abstracts.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Do AGI-BOTS ponder the ineffable?  Yeah, they may.
>>
>>
>
>
> How the hell did you even find this book? Do you inherit an underground
> library below your house where you still keep your great grandfather's
> books in? How can one come across this book in a logical way?
>
> Did you swipe it in the Vatican?
>
> Hehe :) I'm not being silly.
>
>

 >

I found that edition at a book store, or perhaps book fair.

I've collected about a ton of books, thousands and thousands.

I'm pretty discriminating, not discriminatory/incriminatory,
in what I think is a good book.

(I haven't bought anything on-line, at all, since about
ten years, though, acquired several thousands volumes books.)

The book-collecting is sort of a lifetime pastime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_collecting

I found it from looking for good books.


One time Carl Sagan wrote a book, and in it,
he wrote, that besides the cranial capacity,
the only reason humans have intelligence, is books.

Of course he probably said that a bunch of times.

A usual practiced reader's reading is on the order
of ten-infinity times as fast as the maximum rate
of the spoken word.


Try spending a few days in a university library,
it's called learning something.


I suppose it's like the idea of "the royal road to
geometry", whether there's a royal road, i.e., an
easy way, to geometry.

There is: the long way to the top.

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#663296

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-05-03 14:37 -0700
Message-ID<68168C80.AD5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#663282
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Freitag000002, 02.05.2025 um 10:38 schrieb Angus Belikovich:
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> >
> >> The country called 'Deutsches Reich' (='German Empire') was founded in
> >> 1871 and that was long after the times of Luther.
> >
> > my butt, so gearmony is a fake fictitious country like ukrane?? Now we can
> > put two and two together. Amazing, I had a suspicion the gearmon language
> > is khazar ukran trying to speak english. That's gearmon. Hitler was a jew
> > sending his khazar jew in resort recreation camps for protection, with
> > chocolate, swimming pools, theater, red briks domiciles, football camps,
> > cinema etc. Amazing.  There are movies about and proofs.
> >
> 
> Old-German is among the ancestors of quite a lot of languages.
> 
> There exists actually an author, who claims, that Inkas and Mayas spoke
> a language, which was derived from old-German.
> 
> (don't want to comment that).
> 
> But many languages existed, which were off-spring of that old-German
> language.
> 
> Now at the time of Luther there was no single well defined 'Hochdeutsch'
> ('high German').
> 
> To translate the Bible, Luther had to 'cheat' a little and had to invent
> a language, which was slightly different to any German dialect of his time.
> 
> His translation went into one of the first book printed with the new
> Gutenberg printing press and which was widely distributed.
> 
> Therefore Luther 'invented' modern German (in a way) and popularized
> that in the region now called Germany by his bible translation.
> 
> Before that, German dialects were so different to others, that e.g.
> Bavarians couldn't speak to -say- people from Berlin.
> 
> But Germany didn't exist at the time of Luther.
> 
> Instead there was a huge number of tiny states, cities and kingdoms.
> 
> These were fused together by Bismarck in the year 1871.
> 
> Out came the 'German Empire'.
> 
> But before that year, there was no country called 'Germany',
> 'Deutschland'  or similar.
> 
> The only political entity named 'Deutsch...' was the Holy Roman Empire.
> 
> But that was actually the Empire of the Francs, who spoke French and had
> Paris as their capital.
> 
> Current Germany was one of the parts, which were created after the
> Frankish Empire split.
> 
> The eastern part of that Empire of the Francs became later 'Österreich'
> ('eastern Empire').
> 
> So, in a way, Luther belonged to the 'Germanic part', where German was
> spoken (not French).
> 
> TH

So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?



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#663297

FromMorgan Demarchis <nnrmr@scad.gr>
Date2025-05-03 21:53 +0000
Message-ID<vv638q$fakk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#663296
The Starmaker wrote:

>> So, in a way, Luther belonged to the 'Germanic part', where German was
>> spoken (not French). TH
> 
> So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?

good point. He killed own children and wife, before wanting to kill 
gearmons. Was a proper son of a whore. They put his brain under a 
microscope and they discovered the Einstine was a gay.

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#663317

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-05-04 09:16 +0200
Message-ID<m7oig4FcicrU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#663296
Am Samstag000003, 03.05.2025 um 23:37 schrieb The Starmaker:

>>>> The country called 'Deutsches Reich' (='German Empire') was founded in
>>>> 1871 and that was long after the times of Luther.
>>>
>>> my butt, so gearmony is a fake fictitious country like ukrane?? Now we can
>>> put two and two together. Amazing, I had a suspicion the gearmon language
>>> is khazar ukran trying to speak english. That's gearmon. Hitler was a jew
>>> sending his khazar jew in resort recreation camps for protection, with
>>> chocolate, swimming pools, theater, red briks domiciles, football camps,
>>> cinema etc. Amazing.  There are movies about and proofs.
>>>


All the countries in Europe had borders, which changed frequently.

The neighboring countries fought countless wars, which moved borders 
back and forth.

People were used to that, but stayed in the place, but under new authority.

So kings changed, believes changed, flags changed and political systems, 
but people stayed were they are.

People could not go away, because they usually had no money and were 
also kind of slaves to their respective landlord.

In the usual feudal system, the peasants were more a thing than an 
individual.

So, people usually didn't care a bit about who was the current king and 
who the enemy of that king.

>> Old-German is among the ancestors of quite a lot of languages.
>>
>> There exists actually an author, who claims, that Inkas and Mayas spoke
>> a language, which was derived from old-German.
>>
>> (don't want to comment that).
>>
>> But many languages existed, which were off-spring of that old-German
>> language.
>>
>> Now at the time of Luther there was no single well defined 'Hochdeutsch'
>> ('high German').
>>
>> To translate the Bible, Luther had to 'cheat' a little and had to invent
>> a language, which was slightly different to any German dialect of his time.
>>
>> His translation went into one of the first book printed with the new
>> Gutenberg printing press and which was widely distributed.
>>
>> Therefore Luther 'invented' modern German (in a way) and popularized
>> that in the region now called Germany by his bible translation.
>>
>> Before that, German dialects were so different to others, that e.g.
>> Bavarians couldn't speak to -say- people from Berlin.
>>
>> But Germany didn't exist at the time of Luther.
>>
>> Instead there was a huge number of tiny states, cities and kingdoms.
>>
>> These were fused together by Bismarck in the year 1871.
>>
>> Out came the 'German Empire'.
>>
>> But before that year, there was no country called 'Germany',
>> 'Deutschland'  or similar.
>>
>> The only political entity named 'Deutsch...' was the Holy Roman Empire.
>>
>> But that was actually the Empire of the Francs, who spoke French and had
>> Paris as their capital.
>>
>> Current Germany was one of the parts, which were created after the
>> Frankish Empire split.
>>
>> The eastern part of that Empire of the Francs became later 'Österreich'
>> ('eastern Empire').
>>
>> So, in a way, Luther belonged to the 'Germanic part', where German was
>> spoken (not French).
>>
>> TH
> 
> So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?

My guess: Einstein wasn't a German, but born in Switzerland.

And Swiss are often (more or less) 'anti-German'.

Swiss speak German, but are not 'Germanic', because 'Germanic' is 
related to Danish people (Scandinavians), while Swiss stem (imho) more 
from Romans and Kelts.

I also have doubts, that Einstein was actually a Jew, because he had 
more than a few contacts to the Jesuits.

E.g. his family lived in Pavia, Italy, next door to a huge Jesuit facility.

Einstein also met several times the Jesuit priest George Lemaitre.

And the Catholics are still angry about the Germans, because they 
invented Protestantism.

The Catholics tried to destroy Germany in the 30-years-war, but that 
wasn't successful, because the also protestant Sweden helped.


TH

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#663330

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-05-04 11:34 -0700
Message-ID<6817B345.1B20@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#663317
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Samstag000003, 03.05.2025 um 23:37 schrieb The Starmaker:
> 
> >>>> The country called 'Deutsches Reich' (='German Empire') was founded in
> >>>> 1871 and that was long after the times of Luther.
> >>>
> >>> my butt, so gearmony is a fake fictitious country like ukrane?? Now we can
> >>> put two and two together. Amazing, I had a suspicion the gearmon language
> >>> is khazar ukran trying to speak english. That's gearmon. Hitler was a jew
> >>> sending his khazar jew in resort recreation camps for protection, with
> >>> chocolate, swimming pools, theater, red briks domiciles, football camps,
> >>> cinema etc. Amazing.  There are movies about and proofs.
> >>>
> 
> All the countries in Europe had borders, which changed frequently.
> 
> The neighboring countries fought countless wars, which moved borders
> back and forth.
> 
> People were used to that, but stayed in the place, but under new authority.
> 
> So kings changed, believes changed, flags changed and political systems,
> but people stayed were they are.
> 
> People could not go away, because they usually had no money and were
> also kind of slaves to their respective landlord.
> 
> In the usual feudal system, the peasants were more a thing than an
> individual.
> 
> So, people usually didn't care a bit about who was the current king and
> who the enemy of that king.
> 
> >> Old-German is among the ancestors of quite a lot of languages.
> >>
> >> There exists actually an author, who claims, that Inkas and Mayas spoke
> >> a language, which was derived from old-German.
> >>
> >> (don't want to comment that).
> >>
> >> But many languages existed, which were off-spring of that old-German
> >> language.
> >>
> >> Now at the time of Luther there was no single well defined 'Hochdeutsch'
> >> ('high German').
> >>
> >> To translate the Bible, Luther had to 'cheat' a little and had to invent
> >> a language, which was slightly different to any German dialect of his time.
> >>
> >> His translation went into one of the first book printed with the new
> >> Gutenberg printing press and which was widely distributed.
> >>
> >> Therefore Luther 'invented' modern German (in a way) and popularized
> >> that in the region now called Germany by his bible translation.
> >>
> >> Before that, German dialects were so different to others, that e.g.
> >> Bavarians couldn't speak to -say- people from Berlin.
> >>
> >> But Germany didn't exist at the time of Luther.
> >>
> >> Instead there was a huge number of tiny states, cities and kingdoms.
> >>
> >> These were fused together by Bismarck in the year 1871.
> >>
> >> Out came the 'German Empire'.
> >>
> >> But before that year, there was no country called 'Germany',
> >> 'Deutschland'  or similar.
> >>
> >> The only political entity named 'Deutsch...' was the Holy Roman Empire.
> >>
> >> But that was actually the Empire of the Francs, who spoke French and had
> >> Paris as their capital.
> >>
> >> Current Germany was one of the parts, which were created after the
> >> Frankish Empire split.
> >>
> >> The eastern part of that Empire of the Francs became later 'Österreich'
> >> ('eastern Empire').
> >>
> >> So, in a way, Luther belonged to the 'Germanic part', where German was
> >> spoken (not French).
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> > So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?
> 
> My guess: Einstein wasn't a German, but born in Switzerland.
> 
> And Swiss are often (more or less) 'anti-German'.
> 
> Swiss speak German, but are not 'Germanic', because 'Germanic' is
> related to Danish people (Scandinavians), while Swiss stem (imho) more
> from Romans and Kelts.
> 
> I also have doubts, that Einstein was actually a Jew, because he had
> more than a few contacts to the Jesuits.
> 
> E.g. his family lived in Pavia, Italy, next door to a huge Jesuit facility.
> 
> Einstein also met several times the Jesuit priest George Lemaitre.
> 
> And the Catholics are still angry about the Germans, because they
> invented Protestantism.
> 
> The Catholics tried to destroy Germany in the 30-years-war, but that
> wasn't successful, because the also protestant Sweden helped.
> 
> TH


But what does that mean "aniti-German"??? What is it about Albert Einstein that
made him "anit-German"...what are the things that Albert Einstein didn't like
about the German people that he wanted them all dead? What are the
characteristics of the German people? Do they talk too loud? I don't know.
I don't know what are the characteristic of the German people except what
I see on Hogan's Heroes.

Do German people have big lips? I don't get it. What unique feature does the German people have that he can
smell them a mile away? What is  it about German people Einstein didn't like??? 

Where I live I don't SEE any German people. No German resturants, nothing. Where are they? 

I like Swiss watches!

This one cost $2,468.00
https://boegli.com/products/m4-r

but i found one 'just like it' on ebay for only $14.00 free shipping from China.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qp0AAOSwk7hnLpen/s-l1600.webp



cool ain't it?


So, what are the characteristic of the German people? 


Do they have a certain...smell?


do tell.



 





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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#663337

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-04 14:24 -0500
Message-ID<vv8etj$7ulh$2@solani.org>
In reply to#663330
On 5/4/25 1:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> I like Swiss watches!
> 
> This one cost $2,468.00
> https://boegli.com/products/m4-r
> 
> but i found one 'just like it' on ebay for only $14.00 free shipping from China.
> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qp0AAOSwk7hnLpen/s-l1600.webp
> 
> 
> 
> cool ain't it?
> 
> 
> So, what are the characteristic of the German people?
> 
> 
> Do they have a certain...smell?
> 
> 
> do tell.
> 



Ok I will.

They have a thing about perpetually cleaning stuff with their own hands :)

But this is new in them, only after WWII. Repetitions in everything they 
do, day after day, hour after hour, began to be seen in their other 
activities too. Modern dance, for instance. German modern dance changed 
form dramatically after WWII ended. Repetitions were all over them.

Our neighbor's son in extreme north Tehran, in 1960s (my elder brothers' 
playmate, not mine) went to Germany and one Summer came back a civil 
engineer, with a German wife. Before buying his own house, he and his 
wife spent the Summer in that same house with his parents and brothers 
and sisters. We could see a large part of their yard even from the 
balcony of our first floor, let alone the 2nd.

Every day, literally every day, his wife would wash him in the yard with 
water and soap before he'd go to work..

His wife bathed him every day! That house was so old and funky they 
didn't have shower rooms (ours has had two shower rooms from day one, 
one in every floor).

Only a German wife would do that. You should've seen by what level of 
enthusiasm and joy and hurry she'd clean him up all over!..



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#663396

Fromsqualk <sq@net.inv>
Date2025-05-06 22:25 +0100
Message-ID<M2mdnZXrH5Ac44f1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#663337
Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 5/4/25 1:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> I like Swiss watches!
>>
>> This one cost $2,468.00
>> https://boegli.com/products/m4-r
>>
>> but i found one 'just like it' on ebay for only $14.00 free shipping 
>> from China.
>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qp0AAOSwk7hnLpen/s-l1600.webp
>>
>>
>>
>> cool ain't it?
>>
>>
>> So, what are the characteristic of the German people?
>>
>>
>> Do they have a certain...smell?
>>
>>
>> do tell.
>>
> 
> 
> 
> Ok I will.
> 
> They have a thing about perpetually cleaning stuff with their own hands :)
> 
> But this is new in them, only after WWII. Repetitions in everything they 
> do, day after day, hour after hour, began to be seen in their other 
> activities too. Modern dance, for instance. German modern dance changed 
> form dramatically after WWII ended. Repetitions were all over them.
> 
> Our neighbor's son in extreme north Tehran, in 1960s (my elder brothers' 
> playmate, not mine) went to Germany and one Summer came back a civil 
> engineer, with a German wife. Before buying his own house, he and his 
> wife spent the Summer in that same house with his parents and brothers 
> and sisters. We could see a large part of their yard even from the 
> balcony of our first floor, let alone the 2nd.
> 
> Every day, literally every day, his wife would wash him in the yard with 
> water and soap before he'd go to work..
> 
> His wife bathed him every day! That house was so old and funky they 
> didn't have shower rooms (ours has had two shower rooms from day one, 
> one in every floor).
> 
> Only a German wife would do that. You should've seen by what level of 
> enthusiasm and joy and hurry she'd clean him up all over!..
> 
> ------------------------------------

Phew!
> 
> 

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#663385

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-05-06 10:36 +0200
Message-ID<m7tvugF8kinU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#663330
Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 20:34 schrieb The Starmaker:
...
>>> So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?
>>
>> My guess: Einstein wasn't a German, but born in Switzerland.
>>
>> And Swiss are often (more or less) 'anti-German'.
>>
>> Swiss speak German, but are not 'Germanic', because 'Germanic' is
>> related to Danish people (Scandinavians), while Swiss stem (imho) more
>> from Romans and Kelts.
>>
>> I also have doubts, that Einstein was actually a Jew, because he had
>> more than a few contacts to the Jesuits.
>>
>> E.g. his family lived in Pavia, Italy, next door to a huge Jesuit facility.
>>
>> Einstein also met several times the Jesuit priest George Lemaitre.
>>
>> And the Catholics are still angry about the Germans, because they
>> invented Protestantism.
>>
>> The Catholics tried to destroy Germany in the 30-years-war, but that
>> wasn't successful, because the also protestant Sweden helped.
>>
>> TH
> 
> 
> But what does that mean "aniti-German"??? What is it about Albert Einstein that
> made him "anit-German"...what are the things that Albert Einstein didn't like
> about the German people that he wanted them all dead? What are the
> characteristics of the German people? Do they talk too loud? I don't know.

I don't give a shit about what Einstein didn't like.

> I don't know what are the characteristic of the German people except what
> I see on Hogan's Heroes.

What the f*** is that?

> Do German people have big lips? I don't get it. What unique feature does the German people have that he can
> smell them a mile away? What is  it about German people Einstein didn't like???

Germany is a country in central Europe.

It's name is not really 'Germany' but 'Bundesrepublik Deutschland'.

Germany has about 82 million citizens, which are called collectively 
'Germans'.

Actually 'German' is rooted in a Latin word, which is not used by 
Germans themselves. The word 'Deutschland' means actually 'country were 
they speak German'.

This laguage is called 'Deutsch', hence Germany would better be called 
'Dutchland' in English.

But since 'Dutch' is already used by the Netherlands and for their 
language (which is kind of German), the German Germans speak German (not 
Dutch).

So we could possibly use tribes and ethnicity as qualifiers.

But Germans are not a single ethnic group or a single (or even multiple) 
tribes.

Germany lies in the heart of Europe and all sorts of alien invaders 
trampled through this land and left their offspring behind.

So Germans are actually more diverse that 'Americans' (which is also not 
a tribe or ethnicity).

> Where I live I don't SEE any German people. No German resturants, nothing. Where are they?
> 
> I like Swiss watches!


The problem of the Swiss people with their northern neighbors are 
actually not my concern.

I would think, that Swiss believe in coherence of the society by 'oath' 
('Eid' in German), because the call themselves 'Eidgenossenschaft' 
('oath community').

They could eventually think about 'non-oathers' as 'sheeple', while the 
norther neighbors think about the Swiss tiny country, which deliverers 
watches and chocolate.
...

TH

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#663390

FromDudley Tulakov <veu@dylal.ru>
Date2025-05-06 14:11 +0000
Message-ID<vvd5ao$32qcq$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#663385
Thomas Heger wrote:

> Germany is a country in central Europe.
> It's name is not really 'Germany' but 'Bundesrepublik Deutschland'.
> Germany has about 82 million citizens, which are called collectively
> 'Germans'.

I beg to differ. According to the written history half of them are 
Russians. Good old proper Russians, something you should be proud of. And 
respect. You guys are forgetting what is to respect.

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#663405

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-05-07 09:42 +0200
Message-ID<m80h50Fko8tU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#663390
Am Dienstag000006, 06.05.2025 um 16:11 schrieb Dudley Tulakov:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Germany is a country in central Europe.
>> It's name is not really 'Germany' but 'Bundesrepublik Deutschland'.
>> Germany has about 82 million citizens, which are called collectively
>> 'Germans'.
> 
> I beg to differ. According to the written history half of them are
> Russians. Good old proper Russians, something you should be proud of. And
> respect. You guys are forgetting what is to respect.

Not quite correct, but close.

East of river 'Elbe' there are people living, which are commonly called 
'slavic people'.

It is a continuum, which starts in Germany in the west and goes over 
Poland, Ukraine and Russia to the East and to the Balkan in the South.

These people speak mainly slavic languages, while Germans speak (of 
course) German.

But 'Prussia' and 'Russia' sound similar for a reason, because the old 
Prussians stem actually from the east.

TH

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#663417

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-05-07 09:10 -0700
Message-ID<681B860D.5892@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#663405
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Dienstag000006, 06.05.2025 um 16:11 schrieb Dudley Tulakov:
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> >
> >> Germany is a country in central Europe.
> >> It's name is not really 'Germany' but 'Bundesrepublik Deutschland'.
> >> Germany has about 82 million citizens, which are called collectively
> >> 'Germans'.
> >
> > I beg to differ. According to the written history half of them are
> > Russians. Good old proper Russians, something you should be proud of. And
> > respect. You guys are forgetting what is to respect.
> 
> Not quite correct, but close.
> 
> East of river 'Elbe' there are people living, which are commonly called
> 'slavic people'.
> 
> It is a continuum, which starts in Germany in the west and goes over
> Poland, Ukraine and Russia to the East and to the Balkan in the South.
> 
> These people speak mainly slavic languages, while Germans speak (of
> course) German.
> 
> But 'Prussia' and 'Russia' sound similar for a reason, because the old
> Prussians stem actually from the east.
> 
> TH

Well of course Germans speak German, Albert Einstein spoke German
because he was German.

(he was a self-hating German)

He also hated math.

What language is Math? Mathman.

Women don't like math men.

Woman like a man to say..."Hello, I love you, why don't you tell me your
name."


I saw a woamn trying to count to six, then she had to put down what she
had in her other hand so she can count to six.

You know how differcult it is to count to six if you have something in
the other hand...

So, if you go past ten...do people use their toes???

i mean, what are toes for?

Maybe since I wear shoes...

too much trouble to count past ten.

six can be a problem...

if she has something in her hand.


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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#663414

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-05-07 08:50 -0700
Message-ID<681B813F.1653@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#663385
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 20:34 schrieb The Starmaker:
> ...
> >>> So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?
> >>
> >> My guess: Einstein wasn't a German, but born in Switzerland.
> >>
> >> And Swiss are often (more or less) 'anti-German'.
> >>
> >> Swiss speak German, but are not 'Germanic', because 'Germanic' is
> >> related to Danish people (Scandinavians), while Swiss stem (imho) more
> >> from Romans and Kelts.
> >>
> >> I also have doubts, that Einstein was actually a Jew, because he had
> >> more than a few contacts to the Jesuits.
> >>
> >> E.g. his family lived in Pavia, Italy, next door to a huge Jesuit facility.
> >>
> >> Einstein also met several times the Jesuit priest George Lemaitre.
> >>
> >> And the Catholics are still angry about the Germans, because they
> >> invented Protestantism.
> >>
> >> The Catholics tried to destroy Germany in the 30-years-war, but that
> >> wasn't successful, because the also protestant Sweden helped.
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> >
> > But what does that mean "aniti-German"??? What is it about Albert Einstein that
> > made him "anit-German"...what are the things that Albert Einstein didn't like
> > about the German people that he wanted them all dead? What are the
> > characteristics of the German people? Do they talk too loud? I don't know.
> 
> I don't give a shit about what Einstein didn't like.


Albert Einstein also said:

"It is possible either to destroy the German people or keep them
suppressed; it is not possible to educate them to think..."


-- 
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#663435

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-05-08 08:49 +0200
Message-ID<m832e2F2lavU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#663414
Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 17:50 schrieb The Starmaker:

>>>>> So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?
>>>>
>>>> My guess: Einstein wasn't a German, but born in Switzerland.
>>>>
>>>> And Swiss are often (more or less) 'anti-German'.
>>>>
>>>> Swiss speak German, but are not 'Germanic', because 'Germanic' is
>>>> related to Danish people (Scandinavians), while Swiss stem (imho) more
>>>> from Romans and Kelts.
>>>>
>>>> I also have doubts, that Einstein was actually a Jew, because he had
>>>> more than a few contacts to the Jesuits.
>>>>
>>>> E.g. his family lived in Pavia, Italy, next door to a huge Jesuit facility.
>>>>
>>>> Einstein also met several times the Jesuit priest George Lemaitre.
>>>>
>>>> And the Catholics are still angry about the Germans, because they
>>>> invented Protestantism.
>>>>
>>>> The Catholics tried to destroy Germany in the 30-years-war, but that
>>>> wasn't successful, because the also protestant Sweden helped.
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>
>>>
>>> But what does that mean "aniti-German"??? What is it about Albert Einstein that
>>> made him "anit-German"...what are the things that Albert Einstein didn't like
>>> about the German people that he wanted them all dead? What are the
>>> characteristics of the German people? Do they talk too loud? I don't know.
>>
>> I don't give a shit about what Einstein didn't like.
> 
> 
> Albert Einstein also said:
> 
> "It is possible either to destroy the German people or keep them
> suppressed; it is not possible to educate them to think..."
> 

We already had Einstein's anti-German statements before and were 
discussing the reasons form them.

I personally think, that 'Einstein' was actually a false identity of a 
Swiss born Jesuit agent, which were and still are on a 'crusade' against 
Protestantism.

The Catholic church was also engaged in theoretical physics and possibly 
found something, they would like to keep secret and use only themselves.

As rough estimate I would guess:

the Vatican has a functioning time-machine and wanted to use that 
knowledge exclusively.



TH


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#663437

FromJorman Balakhonov <joam@almah.ru>
Date2025-05-08 15:11 +0000
Message-ID<vvihi9$1t36h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#663435
Thomas Heger wrote:

> We already had Einstein's anti-German statements before and were
> discussing the reasons form them.
> 
> I personally think, that 'Einstein' was actually a false identity of a
> Swiss born Jesuit agent, which were and still are on a 'crusade' against
> Protestantism.
> 
> The Catholic church was also engaged in theoretical physics and possibly
> found something, they would like to keep secret and use only themselves.
> 
> As rough estimate I would guess:
> 
> the Vatican has a functioning time-machine and wanted to use that
> knowledge exclusively.

Wrong! Nazis printed their own Debt-Free Money. The West borrows theirs 
from Jews.

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#663421

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-05-07 09:19 -0700
Message-ID<681B87FB.59D9@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#663385
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 20:34 schrieb The Starmaker:
> ...
> >>> So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?
> >>
> >> My guess: Einstein wasn't a German, but born in Switzerland.
> >>
> >> And Swiss are often (more or less) 'anti-German'.
> >>
> >> Swiss speak German, but are not 'Germanic', because 'Germanic' is
> >> related to Danish people (Scandinavians), while Swiss stem (imho) more
> >> from Romans and Kelts.
> >>
> >> I also have doubts, that Einstein was actually a Jew, because he had
> >> more than a few contacts to the Jesuits.
> >>
> >> E.g. his family lived in Pavia, Italy, next door to a huge Jesuit facility.
> >>
> >> Einstein also met several times the Jesuit priest George Lemaitre.
> >>
> >> And the Catholics are still angry about the Germans, because they
> >> invented Protestantism.
> >>
> >> The Catholics tried to destroy Germany in the 30-years-war, but that
> >> wasn't successful, because the also protestant Sweden helped.
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> >
> > But what does that mean "aniti-German"??? What is it about Albert Einstein that
> > made him "anit-German"...what are the things that Albert Einstein didn't like
> > about the German people that he wanted them all dead? What are the
> > characteristics of the German people? Do they talk too loud? I don't know.
> 
> I don't give a shit about what Einstein didn't like.
> 
> > I don't know what are the characteristic of the German people except what
> > I see on Hogan's Heroes.
> 
> What the f*** is that?


My, my...what an "aggressive mentality"  you have! Are you ...German?







-- 
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#663447

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-05-09 09:36 -0700
Message-ID<681E2F23.3769@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#663421
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> >
> > Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 20:34 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > ...
> > >>> So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?
> > >>
> > >> My guess: Einstein wasn't a German, but born in Switzerland.
> > >>
> > >> And Swiss are often (more or less) 'anti-German'.
> > >>
> > >> Swiss speak German, but are not 'Germanic', because 'Germanic' is
> > >> related to Danish people (Scandinavians), while Swiss stem (imho) more
> > >> from Romans and Kelts.
> > >>
> > >> I also have doubts, that Einstein was actually a Jew, because he had
> > >> more than a few contacts to the Jesuits.
> > >>
> > >> E.g. his family lived in Pavia, Italy, next door to a huge Jesuit facility.
> > >>
> > >> Einstein also met several times the Jesuit priest George Lemaitre.
> > >>
> > >> And the Catholics are still angry about the Germans, because they
> > >> invented Protestantism.
> > >>
> > >> The Catholics tried to destroy Germany in the 30-years-war, but that
> > >> wasn't successful, because the also protestant Sweden helped.
> > >>
> > >> TH
> > >
> > >
> > > But what does that mean "aniti-German"??? What is it about Albert Einstein that
> > > made him "anit-German"...what are the things that Albert Einstein didn't like
> > > about the German people that he wanted them all dead? What are the
> > > characteristics of the German people? Do they talk too loud? I don't know.
> >
> > I don't give a shit about what Einstein didn't like.
> >
> > > I don't know what are the characteristic of the German people except what
> > > I see on Hogan's Heroes.
> >
> > What the f*** is that?
> 
> My, my...what an "aggressive mentality"  you have! Are you ...German?


In other words, if you are unable to understand Albert Einstein's
thought process...

in Einstein's world view.. As He Sees It...ALL Germans are NAZIS,
...forever.

It's deep-rooted in their DNA. (and in Hollywood films)


According to Einstein, he said: "The aggressive mentality of the German
people is deep-rooted;". -- Albert Einstein  (1947)  



"deep-rooted" means
Britannica Dictionary definition of DEEP–ROOTED. [more deep–rooted; most
deep–rooted] : existing for a long time and very difficult to change

"aggressive mentality" means

An aggressive mentality is a mindset characterized by a strong drive to
dominate, pursue goals assertively, and potentially disregard others'
rights or needs in the process. It can manifest in various ways, from a
competitive and ambitious drive to a more confrontational and
potentially harmful approach to interactions.


Albert Einstein also said:

"It is possible either to destroy the German people or keep them
suppressed; it is not possible to educate them to think and act along
democratic lines in the foreseeable future."


Albert Einstein wants to destroy the German people even after WW2
ended...

he wants them all dead. All the women, all the men, and all the
children.


I guess they must have kicked his ass in skool everyday..

atomic bomb is the solution.


Don't take a karate class, take a atomic bomb class given by Albert
Einstein at a University near you.



Is it true all German people are...fat? 








-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#663478

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-05-10 10:57 -0700
Message-ID<681F9373.30FD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#663447
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > >
> > > Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 20:34 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > > ...
> > > >>> So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?
> > > >>
> > > >> My guess: Einstein wasn't a German, but born in Switzerland.
> > > >>
> > > >> And Swiss are often (more or less) 'anti-German'.
> > > >>
> > > >> Swiss speak German, but are not 'Germanic', because 'Germanic' is
> > > >> related to Danish people (Scandinavians), while Swiss stem (imho) more
> > > >> from Romans and Kelts.
> > > >>
> > > >> I also have doubts, that Einstein was actually a Jew, because he had
> > > >> more than a few contacts to the Jesuits.
> > > >>
> > > >> E.g. his family lived in Pavia, Italy, next door to a huge Jesuit facility.
> > > >>
> > > >> Einstein also met several times the Jesuit priest George Lemaitre.
> > > >>
> > > >> And the Catholics are still angry about the Germans, because they
> > > >> invented Protestantism.
> > > >>
> > > >> The Catholics tried to destroy Germany in the 30-years-war, but that
> > > >> wasn't successful, because the also protestant Sweden helped.
> > > >>
> > > >> TH
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But what does that mean "aniti-German"??? What is it about Albert Einstein that
> > > > made him "anit-German"...what are the things that Albert Einstein didn't like
> > > > about the German people that he wanted them all dead? What are the
> > > > characteristics of the German people? Do they talk too loud? I don't know.
> > >
> > > I don't give a shit about what Einstein didn't like.
> > >
> > > > I don't know what are the characteristic of the German people except what
> > > > I see on Hogan's Heroes.
> > >
> > > What the f*** is that?
> >
> > My, my...what an "aggressive mentality"  you have! Are you ...German?
> 
> In other words, if you are unable to understand Albert Einstein's
> thought process...
> 
> in Einstein's world view.. As He Sees It...ALL Germans are NAZIS,
> ...forever.
> 
> It's deep-rooted in their DNA. (and in Hollywood films)
> 
> According to Einstein, he said: "The aggressive mentality of the German
> people is deep-rooted;". -- Albert Einstein  (1947)
> 
> "deep-rooted" means
> Britannica Dictionary definition of DEEP–ROOTED. [more deep–rooted; most
> deep–rooted] : existing for a long time and very difficult to change
> 
> "aggressive mentality" means
> 
> An aggressive mentality is a mindset characterized by a strong drive to
> dominate, pursue goals assertively, and potentially disregard others'
> rights or needs in the process. It can manifest in various ways, from a
> competitive and ambitious drive to a more confrontational and
> potentially harmful approach to interactions.
> 
> Albert Einstein also said:
> 
> "It is possible either to destroy the German people or keep them
> suppressed; it is not possible to educate them to think and act along
> democratic lines in the foreseeable future."
> 
> Albert Einstein wants to destroy the German people even after WW2
> ended...
> 
> he wants them all dead. All the women, all the men, and all the
> children.
> 
> I guess they must have kicked his ass in skool everyday..
> 
> atomic bomb is the solution.
> 
> Don't take a karate class, take a atomic bomb class given by Albert
> Einstein at a University near you.
> 
> Is it true all German people are...fat?


How come Germany doesn't have nucluer weapons? 


Is it true what Einstein said:  "The aggressive mentality of the German
people is deep-rooted;"



Should I be afraiiiiiiiiid of German piople? 



oooooooooooooooooooooh scary people.


There is a Nazi in my soup!





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#663501

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-05-11 10:32 -0700
Message-ID<6820DF2C.D6D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#663478
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 20:34 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > > > ...
> > > > >>> So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> My guess: Einstein wasn't a German, but born in Switzerland.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And Swiss are often (more or less) 'anti-German'.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Swiss speak German, but are not 'Germanic', because 'Germanic' is
> > > > >> related to Danish people (Scandinavians), while Swiss stem (imho) more
> > > > >> from Romans and Kelts.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I also have doubts, that Einstein was actually a Jew, because he had
> > > > >> more than a few contacts to the Jesuits.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> E.g. his family lived in Pavia, Italy, next door to a huge Jesuit facility.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Einstein also met several times the Jesuit priest George Lemaitre.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And the Catholics are still angry about the Germans, because they
> > > > >> invented Protestantism.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The Catholics tried to destroy Germany in the 30-years-war, but that
> > > > >> wasn't successful, because the also protestant Sweden helped.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> TH
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But what does that mean "aniti-German"??? What is it about Albert Einstein that
> > > > > made him "anit-German"...what are the things that Albert Einstein didn't like
> > > > > about the German people that he wanted them all dead? What are the
> > > > > characteristics of the German people? Do they talk too loud? I don't know.
> > > >
> > > > I don't give a shit about what Einstein didn't like.
> > > >
> > > > > I don't know what are the characteristic of the German people except what
> > > > > I see on Hogan's Heroes.
> > > >
> > > > What the f*** is that?
> > >
> > > My, my...what an "aggressive mentality"  you have! Are you ...German?
> >
> > In other words, if you are unable to understand Albert Einstein's
> > thought process...
> >
> > in Einstein's world view.. As He Sees It...ALL Germans are NAZIS,
> > ...forever.
> >
> > It's deep-rooted in their DNA. (and in Hollywood films)
> >
> > According to Einstein, he said: "The aggressive mentality of the German
> > people is deep-rooted;". -- Albert Einstein  (1947)
> >
> > "deep-rooted" means
> > Britannica Dictionary definition of DEEP–ROOTED. [more deep–rooted; most
> > deep–rooted] : existing for a long time and very difficult to change
> >
> > "aggressive mentality" means
> >
> > An aggressive mentality is a mindset characterized by a strong drive to
> > dominate, pursue goals assertively, and potentially disregard others'
> > rights or needs in the process. It can manifest in various ways, from a
> > competitive and ambitious drive to a more confrontational and
> > potentially harmful approach to interactions.
> >
> > Albert Einstein also said:
> >
> > "It is possible either to destroy the German people or keep them
> > suppressed; it is not possible to educate them to think and act along
> > democratic lines in the foreseeable future."
> >
> > Albert Einstein wants to destroy the German people even after WW2
> > ended...
> >
> > he wants them all dead. All the women, all the men, and all the
> > children.
> >
> > I guess they must have kicked his ass in skool everyday..
> >
> > atomic bomb is the solution.
> >
> > Don't take a karate class, take a atomic bomb class given by Albert
> > Einstein at a University near you.
> >
> > Is it true all German people are...fat?
> 
> How come Germany doesn't have nucluer weapons?
> 
> Is it true what Einstein said:  "The aggressive mentality of the German
> people is deep-rooted;"
> 

The Truth is..even after the WW2 ended Albert Einstein still wanted all
the Germans dead.

(he is not going to forget that they beat him up in skool everyday)

So, the Real reason Why Germany doesn't possess nuclear weapons is
because Albert Einstein
didn't want them to have any.

Albert Einstein also said: "...either to destroy the German people or
keep them
 suppressed;..."

Meaning Einstein believed that Germans need to all
be...disarmed/suppresses.


France possess nuclear weapons
United Kingdom possess nuclear weapons
indai, pakistan and israel possess nuclear weapons,
why not Germany?


I look at the world today and it's Israel that starts all the wars. They
need to be...suppressed or either destroyed as Albert Einstein puts it.


The Truth is...Israel is Always on the war path.


If yous are not going to destroy Israel, then "suppressed" them...disarm
them, take away their nuclear weapons.


Take away their ...rocks. Let them eat sand.














-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#663504

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-05-11 11:28 -0700
Message-ID<6820EC63.4682@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#663501
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 20:34 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >>> So, why did Albert Einstein wanted all the Germans...dead?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> My guess: Einstein wasn't a German, but born in Switzerland.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> And Swiss are often (more or less) 'anti-German'.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Swiss speak German, but are not 'Germanic', because 'Germanic' is
> > > > > >> related to Danish people (Scandinavians), while Swiss stem (imho) more
> > > > > >> from Romans and Kelts.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I also have doubts, that Einstein was actually a Jew, because he had
> > > > > >> more than a few contacts to the Jesuits.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> E.g. his family lived in Pavia, Italy, next door to a huge Jesuit facility.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Einstein also met several times the Jesuit priest George Lemaitre.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> And the Catholics are still angry about the Germans, because they
> > > > > >> invented Protestantism.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The Catholics tried to destroy Germany in the 30-years-war, but that
> > > > > >> wasn't successful, because the also protestant Sweden helped.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> TH
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But what does that mean "aniti-German"??? What is it about Albert Einstein that
> > > > > > made him "anit-German"...what are the things that Albert Einstein didn't like
> > > > > > about the German people that he wanted them all dead? What are the
> > > > > > characteristics of the German people? Do they talk too loud? I don't know.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't give a shit about what Einstein didn't like.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know what are the characteristic of the German people except what
> > > > > > I see on Hogan's Heroes.
> > > > >
> > > > > What the f*** is that?
> > > >
> > > > My, my...what an "aggressive mentality"  you have! Are you ...German?
> > >
> > > In other words, if you are unable to understand Albert Einstein's
> > > thought process...
> > >
> > > in Einstein's world view.. As He Sees It...ALL Germans are NAZIS,
> > > ...forever.
> > >
> > > It's deep-rooted in their DNA. (and in Hollywood films)
> > >
> > > According to Einstein, he said: "The aggressive mentality of the German
> > > people is deep-rooted;". -- Albert Einstein  (1947)
> > >
> > > "deep-rooted" means
> > > Britannica Dictionary definition of DEEP–ROOTED. [more deep–rooted; most
> > > deep–rooted] : existing for a long time and very difficult to change
> > >
> > > "aggressive mentality" means
> > >
> > > An aggressive mentality is a mindset characterized by a strong drive to
> > > dominate, pursue goals assertively, and potentially disregard others'
> > > rights or needs in the process. It can manifest in various ways, from a
> > > competitive and ambitious drive to a more confrontational and
> > > potentially harmful approach to interactions.
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein also said:
> > >
> > > "It is possible either to destroy the German people or keep them
> > > suppressed; it is not possible to educate them to think and act along
> > > democratic lines in the foreseeable future."
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein wants to destroy the German people even after WW2
> > > ended...
> > >
> > > he wants them all dead. All the women, all the men, and all the
> > > children.
> > >
> > > I guess they must have kicked his ass in skool everyday..
> > >
> > > atomic bomb is the solution.
> > >
> > > Don't take a karate class, take a atomic bomb class given by Albert
> > > Einstein at a University near you.
> > >
> > > Is it true all German people are...fat?
> >
> > How come Germany doesn't have nucluer weapons?
> >
> > Is it true what Einstein said:  "The aggressive mentality of the German
> > people is deep-rooted;"
> >
> 
> The Truth is..even after the WW2 ended Albert Einstein still wanted all
> the Germans dead.
> 
> (he is not going to forget that they beat him up in skool everyday)
> 
> So, the Real reason Why Germany doesn't possess nuclear weapons is
> because Albert Einstein
> didn't want them to have any.
> 
> Albert Einstein also said: "...either to destroy the German people or
> keep them
>  suppressed;..."
> 
> Meaning Einstein believed that Germans need to all
> be...disarmed/suppresses.
> 
> France possess nuclear weapons
> United Kingdom possess nuclear weapons
> indai, pakistan and israel possess nuclear weapons,
> why not Germany?
> 
> I look at the world today and it's Israel that starts all the wars. They
> need to be...suppressed or either destroyed as Albert Einstein puts it.
> 
> The Truth is...Israel is Always on the war path.
> 
> If yous are not going to destroy Israel, then "suppressed" them...disarm
> them, take away their nuclear weapons.
> 
> Take away their ...rocks. Let them eat sand.



I don't understand Why France possess nuclear weapons.



What are their...charactertistics? Certaintly no "aggressive mentality",
...maybe their french woumen are "aggressive mentality".

Which mean all french men are..pussies, right?









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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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