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First post2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
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  ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-15 10:14 +0100
      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-12-15 03:06 -0800
      Re: ww2 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-16 06:50 +0100
    Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-16 21:24 -0800
      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-18 13:42 -0800
        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:34 -0800
          Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 17:16 -0600
        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:48 -0800
          Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 10:08 -0800
            Re: ww3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 11:32 -0700
          Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 00:38 -0800
            Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-27 11:08 -0800
            Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 00:14 -0700
              Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:58 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 04:56 -0800
                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-02 06:43 -0800
                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 22:52 -0500
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-01 15:05 +0000
                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
                    Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-03 09:12 +0000
                      Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-04 07:38 +0100
                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-03 23:40 -0800
                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-05 09:05 +0100
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:38 -0500
                              Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 12:26 -0800
                              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:45 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 00:05 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:33 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:09 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:55 +0100
                                        Re: ww3 Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-09 08:02 +0100
                                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-09 10:01 +0000
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:20 -0500
                                              Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:05 -0500
                                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:35 +0000
                                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 08:57 -0500
                                                  Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 10:57 -0800
                                                    Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 21:35 -0800
                                                      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-16 17:17 -0800
                                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 16:28 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:15 +0100
                                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:53 +0000
                                                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0100
                                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:25 +0000
                                                    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:27 +0100
                                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 10:35 +0000
                                                        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:29 -0600
                                                        Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-20 08:38 +0100
                                                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-20 09:58 +0000
                                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0000
                                                    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:33 +0100
                                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-18 15:58 +0000
                                                        Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-19 07:40 +0100
                                                      Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:35 -0600
                                                        Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-20 14:26 +0100
                                                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-21 07:46 +0100
                                                            Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-22 09:19 +0100
                                                              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-23 11:54 +0100
                                                                Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-23 14:12 +0100
                                                                  Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-23 22:15 +0100
                                                                    Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 14:15 -0800
                                                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-24 09:01 +0100
                                                                    Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-24 10:35 -0800
                                                                    Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-24 20:49 +0100
                                                                    Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-25 10:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: ww3 Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:01 +0000
                                                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-25 12:14 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 23:08 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:19 -0500
                                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:32 +0100
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:08 -0500
                                    Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:51 -0600
                                      Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:25 +0100
                                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 23:40 -0800
                                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0100
                                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:26 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 14:32 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:25 -0500
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
                                        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 16:16 -0600
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:18 -0500
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:22 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:12 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:11 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 12:14 -0800
                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:00 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:50 -0800
                          Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:51 -0800
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:25 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:22 +0100
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:31 -0500
                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:33 -0800
                              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:13 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 -0800
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:19 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:39 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:39 -0800
                                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:33 -0500
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:31 -0500
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:21 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:47 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:37 -0500
                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:02 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:34 -0500
                              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:09 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:44 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:49 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100
                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500
                    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100
                      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800
                        Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100
                          Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
                            Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:04 -0800
                              Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 16:07 -0800
                                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:17 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:18 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:20 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:54 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 18:41 -0800
                                      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 20:32 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 21:00 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 17:52 -0800
                                          Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:23 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:55 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:39 -0800
                                                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:45 -0800
                                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 23:02 -0800
                                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:03 -0800
                                                      Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:08 -0800
                                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:11 -0800
                                                          Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:13 -0800
                                                            Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:41 -0800
                                                  Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 07:04 -0800
                                                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:51 -0500
                                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 13:33 -0800
                                                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:05 -0500
                                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 20:56 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-19 20:49 -0800
                              Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:41 -0600
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:25 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 22:46 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:18 -0700
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:44 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:56 -0500
                      Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-07 11:23 -0800
                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:35 -0500
                      Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0700
                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-12 23:06 -0800
                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-13 10:46 +0000
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:11 -0500
                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 02:23 +0000
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:09 -0500
                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 03:15 +0000
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 21:27 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:26 +0000
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:25 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 15:32 +0000
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 16:57 -0500
                                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 02:21 +0000
                                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:24 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 16:36 +0000
                                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 19:08 -0800
                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 05:21 +0000
                                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 21:44 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:28 -0600
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:40 -0500
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:36 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 14:50 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0800
                                          Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:11 -0800
                          Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:12 -0700
                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:00 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 12:53 -0800
                            Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:10 -0700
                          Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:15 -0700
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:45 -0500
                              Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:47 -0800
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:58 -0500
        Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-21 05:48 +0000
          Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 14:35 -0600
            Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-22 05:39 +0000
              Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 02:50 -0600
    Re: ww3 patdolan@comcast.net (patdolan) - 2025-01-19 03:01 +0000
      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800

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#659548 — ww3

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
Subjectww3
Message-ID<675E5661.4752@ix.netcom.com>
ww3

Imagine if you will..
Ukraine is a proxy of
the United States...

and since there are
thousands of 
North Koreans
fighting for Russia,
we are at war again with
North Korea!

Why does the 
United States gets
itself in these chink wars?

But, mosts of yous..
if not all of yous,
don't know History.

Like for example, in ww2

Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????

But, mosts of yous..
if not all of yous,
don't know History and
don't know the answer 
to that question.

And if I give you a hint..
it will make it worse!

So, I'm going to give you the
hint anyway.

The United States dropped the
Atomic Bomb on Japan, twice.

Now, the 'Fact' is..

the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan in August, 1945...

but, Albert Einstein was informed that the atomic bomb would
be used on Japan back in March 1945 that same year.. 


Albert Einstein didn't mentioned to anyone for 5 months, Why?

Why?

Because, Albert Einstein wanted ALL the people in Japan to die!

Now you asking yourself the Question,

Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?


Let's go back to Question number one...

Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????


If you know the True answer to that first question, then you
should know the answer to:

Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?






-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#659551

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2024-12-15 10:14 +0100
Message-ID<ls7kuiF20ijU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#659548
Am Sonntag000015, 15.12.2024 um 05:09 schrieb The Starmaker:
> ww3
> 
> Imagine if you will..
> Ukraine is a proxy of
> the United States...
> 
> and since there are
> thousands of
> North Koreans
> fighting for Russia,
> we are at war again with
> North Korea!
> 
> Why does the
> United States gets
> itself in these chink wars?
> 
> But, mosts of yous..
> if not all of yous,
> don't know History.
> 
> Like for example, in ww2
> 
> Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> 
> But, mosts of yous..
> if not all of yous,
> don't know History and
> don't know the answer
> to that question.
> 
> And if I give you a hint..
> it will make it worse!
> 
> So, I'm going to give you the
> hint anyway.
> 
> The United States dropped the
> Atomic Bomb on Japan, twice.
> 
> Now, the 'Fact' is..
> 
> the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan in August, 1945...
> 
> but, Albert Einstein was informed that the atomic bomb would
> be used on Japan back in March 1945 that same year..
> 
> 
> Albert Einstein didn't mentioned to anyone for 5 months, Why?
> 
> Why?
> 
> Because, Albert Einstein wanted ALL the people in Japan to die!
> 
> Now you asking yourself the Question,
> 
> Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> 
> 
> Let's go back to Question number one...
> 
> Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> 

Japan had only six carriers and no other means to bring aircraft near to 
Hawaii.

To start an aircraft from a carrier, the Japanese had to bring them from 
the storage below the flight deck to that flight-deck, screw them 
together and let them start.

This was necessary, because the flight-deck needed to be empty, because 
the Japanese had no catapults.

But even very experienced Japanese plane-assemblers would need a few 
minutes to bolt together each plane.

Now roughly 360 planes took part in the attack and had to start from one 
of these six carriers.

This is 360 / 6 or sixty planes per carrier, which had to start there, 
hence need to be assembled in advance.

Lets say, a team needs, say, an hour and ten planes could be assembled 
at once, we would need six hours to assemble the entire attack formation 
and let ist start from the carriers. Since ten could be assembled in 
advance we could calculate with 5 hours.

In the meantime the planes, which started first would drop out off the 
sky, because they are running out of fuel.

But they had to fly a long distance, drop many bombs and torpedoes and 
fly back afterwards, where they had to cue in line, to be allowed to land.

But that would require fuel for:
5 hours assembly time,
1 hour flight,
10 min attack,
1 flight back and
5 hours disassembly,

(in total 12 hours and 10 min)

which these 'Zero' planes could not possibly carry.


TH

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#659557

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
Date2024-12-15 03:06 -0800
Message-ID<vjmd8h$hr8d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#659551
Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Sonntag000015, 15.12.2024 um 05:09 schrieb The Starmaker:
>> ww3

>> we are at war again with
>> North Korea!

We are not at war in Ukraine.

>> the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan in August, 1945...
>>
>> but, Albert Einstein was informed that the atomic bomb would
>> be used on Japan back in March 1945 that same year..
>>
>>
>> Albert Einstein didn't mentioned to anyone for 5 months, Why?
>>
>> Why?

Because he was not on the Manhattan Project. He did not nuclear 
physics.

>> Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????

They were about to seize French Indochina and other goodies of 
Denmark and other inactive European nation. The cargo ships would 
pass between the Philippines and China. The operation was to take 
those so the US could not attack Japanese ship from our Philippine 
air fields.

> This was necessary, because the flight-deck needed to be empty, 
> because the Japanese had no catapults.

At that time carriers parked departing aircraft on the aft flight 
deck. The aircraft used rest of the flight deck to the bow to lift 
off. Landings used arresting cables so planes stopped on just a 
part of the aft flight deck.

> But even very experienced Japanese plane-assemblers would need a 
> few minutes to bolt together each plane.

Other than raise wing tips on those planes, planes were fully 
assembled.

> Lets say, a team needs, say, an hour and ten planes could be 
> assembled at once, we would need six hours to assemble the entire 

Each carrier launched in about hour. USN carriers had slow 
launches until the crews gained experience.

A few times planes were sent beyond their range and ditched. 
Generally planes were sent to targets knowing they would have 
enough fuel there and back again. Nagumo did not force returning 
planes to ditch though that was a consideration in delaying his 
strike.

-- 
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                    /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2        / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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#659572 — Re: ww2

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2024-12-16 06:50 +0100
SubjectRe: ww2
Message-ID<ls9tdhFdr1hU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#659551
Am Sonntag000015, 15.12.2024 um 10:14 schrieb Thomas Heger:
> Am Sonntag000015, 15.12.2024 um 05:09 schrieb The Starmaker:
>> ww3
>>
>> Imagine if you will..
>> Ukraine is a proxy of
>> the United States...
>>
>> and since there are
>> thousands of
>> North Koreans
>> fighting for Russia,
>> we are at war again with
>> North Korea!
>>
>> Why does the
>> United States gets
>> itself in these chink wars?
>>
>> But, mosts of yous..
>> if not all of yous,
>> don't know History.
>>
>> Like for example, in ww2
>>
>> Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
>>
>> But, mosts of yous..
>> if not all of yous,
>> don't know History and
>> don't know the answer
>> to that question.
>>
>> And if I give you a hint..
>> it will make it worse!
>>
>> So, I'm going to give you the
>> hint anyway.
>>
>> The United States dropped the
>> Atomic Bomb on Japan, twice.
>>
>> Now, the 'Fact' is..
>>
>> the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan in August, 1945...
>>
>> but, Albert Einstein was informed that the atomic bomb would
>> be used on Japan back in March 1945 that same year..
>>
>>
>> Albert Einstein didn't mentioned to anyone for 5 months, Why?
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Because, Albert Einstein wanted ALL the people in Japan to die!
>>
>> Now you asking yourself the Question,
>>
>> Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
>>
>>
>> Let's go back to Question number one...
>>
>> Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
>>
> 
> Japan had only six carriers and no other means to bring aircraft near to 
> Hawaii.
> 
> To start an aircraft from a carrier, the Japanese had to bring them from 
> the storage below the flight deck to that flight-deck, screw them 
> together and let them start.
> 
> This was necessary, because the flight-deck needed to be empty, because 
> the Japanese had no catapults.
> 
> But even very experienced Japanese plane-assemblers would need a few 
> minutes to bolt together each plane.
> 
> Now roughly 360 planes took part in the attack and had to start from one 
> of these six carriers.
> 
> This is 360 / 6 or sixty planes per carrier, which had to start there, 
> hence need to be assembled in advance.
> 
> Lets say, a team needs, say, an hour and ten planes could be assembled 
> at once, we would need six hours to assemble the entire attack formation 
> and let ist start from the carriers. Since ten could be assembled in 
> advance we could calculate with 5 hours.
> 
> In the meantime the planes, which started first would drop out off the 
> sky, because they are running out of fuel.
> 
> But they had to fly a long distance, drop many bombs and torpedoes and 
> fly back afterwards, where they had to cue in line, to be allowed to land.
> 
> But that would require fuel for:
> 5 hours assembly time,
> 1 hour flight,
> 10 min attack,
> 1 flight back and
> 5 hours disassembly,
> 
> (in total 12 hours and 10 min)
> 
> which these 'Zero' planes could not possibly carry.
> 
My guess about that event:

if the Japanese had no means to actually carry out the attack, then 
somebody else had.

But who had the means and who would?

Well, there were a number of reasons to lure the USA into WWII and many 
obstacles to overcome, because many US-citizens were actually 
pro-Germany (and actually at least a little 'pro-Nazi', too).

Who would profit, if the US entered into that war?

Well, most likely the Soviets would, because the USSR was almost overrun 
by German Wehrmacht at that time.

So, what would you think about this 'alternative version' (actually a 
hypothesis)  ???:

the US and the USSR government cut a deal, which included a fake attack 
on the port of Pearl Harbor.

The planes were provided by Japan, flown by soviet pilots and serviced 
and stationed on -say- Midway.


The rest was a HUGE show.



TH

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#659596

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-16 21:24 -0800
Message-ID<67610B1D.258F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#659548
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> ww3
> 
> Imagine if you will..
> Ukraine is a proxy of
> the United States...
> 
> and since there are
> thousands of
> North Koreans
> fighting for Russia,
> we are at war again with
> North Korea!
> 
> Why does the
> United States gets
> itself in these chink wars?
> 
> But, mosts of yous..
> if not all of yous,
> don't know History.
> 
> Like for example, in ww2
> 
> Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> 
> But, mosts of yous..
> if not all of yous,
> don't know History and
> don't know the answer
> to that question.
> 
> And if I give you a hint..
> it will make it worse!
> 
> So, I'm going to give you the
> hint anyway.
> 
> The United States dropped the
> Atomic Bomb on Japan, twice.
> 
> Now, the 'Fact' is..
> 
> the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan in August, 1945...
> 
> but, Albert Einstein was informed that the atomic bomb would
> be used on Japan back in March 1945 that same year..
> 
> Albert Einstein didn't mentioned to anyone for 5 months, Why?
> 
> Why?
> 
> Because, Albert Einstein wanted ALL the people in Japan to die!
> 
> Now you asking yourself the Question,
> 
> Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> 
> Let's go back to Question number one...
> 
> Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> 
> If you know the True answer to that first question, then you
> should know the answer to:
> 
> Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?

Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?

From the point of view of world leaders, when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.. Winston Churlhill knew right away that
the Unted States will go to war with Germany.

Here are quotes from Albert Einstein on his views of Japan:



"This,  however,  does  not  cause  me  to  consider  the intrigues  of Japan and the powers behind her any less damnable 
than you do.I have on various occasions hinted at the possibility of an international economic boycott against Japan, only to 
find that nothing could be achieved, obviously because of the powerful private economic  interests  that  are  involved!"

 He shared the widespread  view  on  the  left  that  Japan’s attack  on  Manchuria  was  encouraged  by  those  who  sought to  undermine  the  Soviet  Union.  
To Barbusse he wrote: 
"Ever since Japan embarked on its Manchurian ad-venture, it has been clear to me that it was supported by powerful, invisible allies,"  and  he
  further  presumed  that  "they  are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the disarmament effort."


"by powerful, invisible allies"????


Now, I'm going to answer the first question:


Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????


The answer is very simple..

In ww2, Japan was an ally of Germany.


Japan was a proxy of Germany



"by powerful, invisible allies"???? Germany of course!



Japan and Germany were the axixes of evil in ww2 days.



I love war.




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#659645

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-18 13:42 -0800
Message-ID<676341D1.4D35@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#659596
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > ww3
> >
> > Imagine if you will..
> > Ukraine is a proxy of
> > the United States...
> >
> > and since there are
> > thousands of
> > North Koreans
> > fighting for Russia,
> > we are at war again with
> > North Korea!
> >
> > Why does the
> > United States gets
> > itself in these chink wars?
> >
> > But, mosts of yous..
> > if not all of yous,
> > don't know History.
> >
> > Like for example, in ww2
> >
> > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> >
> > But, mosts of yous..
> > if not all of yous,
> > don't know History and
> > don't know the answer
> > to that question.
> >
> > And if I give you a hint..
> > it will make it worse!
> >
> > So, I'm going to give you the
> > hint anyway.
> >
> > The United States dropped the
> > Atomic Bomb on Japan, twice.
> >
> > Now, the 'Fact' is..
> >
> > the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan in August, 1945...
> >
> > but, Albert Einstein was informed that the atomic bomb would
> > be used on Japan back in March 1945 that same year..
> >
> > Albert Einstein didn't mentioned to anyone for 5 months, Why?
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Because, Albert Einstein wanted ALL the people in Japan to die!
> >
> > Now you asking yourself the Question,
> >
> > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> >
> > Let's go back to Question number one...
> >
> > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> >
> > If you know the True answer to that first question, then you
> > should know the answer to:
> >
> > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> 
> Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> 
> From the point of view of world leaders, when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.. Winston Churlhill knew right away that
> the Unted States will go to war with Germany.
> 
> Here are quotes from Albert Einstein on his views of Japan:
> 
> "This,  however,  does  not  cause  me  to  consider  the intrigues  of Japan and the powers behind her any less damnable
> than you do.I have on various occasions hinted at the possibility of an international economic boycott against Japan, only to
> find that nothing could be achieved, obviously because of the powerful private economic  interests  that  are  involved!"
> 
>  He shared the widespread  view  on  the  left  that  Japan’s attack  on  Manchuria  was  encouraged  by  those  who  sought to  undermine  the  Soviet  Union.
> To Barbusse he wrote:
> "Ever since Japan embarked on its Manchurian ad-venture, it has been clear to me that it was supported by powerful, invisible allies,"  and  he
>   further  presumed  that  "they  are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the disarmament effort."
> 
> "by powerful, invisible allies"????
> 
> Now, I'm going to answer the first question:
> 
> Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> 
> The answer is very simple..
> 
> In ww2, Japan was an ally of Germany.
> 
> Japan was a proxy of Germany
> 
> "by powerful, invisible allies"???? Germany of course!
> 
> Japan and Germany were the axixes of evil in ww2 days.
> 
> I love war.


As anyone can clearly see (if you understand Albert Einstein's foreign
policy)

Albert Einstein is a self-appointed world Earth leader..his own one
world government.


In Einstein's view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the
leaders of individual nations answered to his single supranational
government.

Albert Einstein's policy is:
that we live in peace,
without arms or armies, secure in
the knowledge that we are free from
aggression and war -- free to pursue
more profitable enterprises. 



"they (Japan and Germany) are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the
disarmament effort."-- Albert Einstien




Sabotaging Albert Einstein's disarment effort.


The penalty for sabotaging Einstein's disarmament effort is too terrible
to risk. 


In other words, you fuck with Albert Einstein and you're fucking dead!


Albert Einstein: "I'LL DROP A FUCKING ATOMIC BOMB ON YOUR FUCKING
COUNTRY!!!!"

"I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU WHOLE FUCKING FAMILY, AND YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY!!"


...world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual
nations answered to his single supranational government.



No wonder Israel tried to get Albert Einstein to be President of
Israel...


Israel wanted to be...head of The One World Government!




Following are quotes from Albert Einstein:


But in blaming the Russians the Americans should not ignore the fact
that they themselves have not voluntarily
renounced the use of the bomb as an ordinary weapon in the time before
the achievement of supranational control, or if supranational control
is not achieved. Thus they have fed the fear of other countries that
they consider the bomb a legitimate part of their arsenal so long as
 other countries decline to accept their terms for supranational
control.


Albert Einstein: "There is only one path to peace and security: the path
of supranational organization."


Albert Einstein: "to control all military forces except for local police
forces, including nuclear weapons", are the only way to prevent nuclear
war.

As one immune from nationalist bias, I personally see a simple way of
dealing with the superficial (i.e., administrative) aspect of
the problem: the setting up, by international consent, of a legislative
and judicial body to settle every conflict arising between nations. 
Each nation would undertake to abide by the orders issued by this
legislative body, to invoke its decision in every dispute, -Albert
Einstein

The United Nations now, and world government eventually, must serve one
single goal – the guarantee of the security,
tranquillity and the welfare of all mankind. -Albert Einstein

… for as long as atomic energy and armaments are considered a vital part
of national security no nation will give more
than lip service to international treaties. Security . . . can be
reached only when necessary guarantees of law and enforcement obtain
everywhere, so 
that military security is no longer the problem of any single state.
There is no compromise possible between preparation for war, on the one
hand, and 
preparation of a world society based on law and order on the other.
-Albert Einstein

The only hope for protection lies in the securing of peace in a
supranational way. A world government must be created
which is able to solve conflicts between nations by judicial decision. .
. based on a clear cut constitution which is approved by the governments
and 
the nations and which gives it the sole disposition of offensive
weapons. A person or a nation can be considered peace loving only if it
is ready to cede 
its military force to the international authorities and to renounce
every attempt or even the means of achieving its interests abroad by the
use of force.






 









-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#659696

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-20 09:34 -0800
Message-ID<6765AABE.5B2B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#659645
The Starmaker wrote:

> No wonder Israel tried to get Albert Einstein to be President of
> Israel...
> 


The reason why Albert Einstein turned down Israel's offer 
to be President of Israel was because according to Albert Einstein..
he didn't want to be part of a Terroists Organization!

Albert Einstein considered Israel to be a Terroists Organization. A Terroist State!


I understand today the President of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu there is a warrant for his arrest.

i don't know
if there is a bounty
on his head, but i was
wondering how much is it?

I'll take him in, dead or alive if
thats what the wanted poster reads.
Is it a million? ten million??

I'm a bounty hunter!

It's a living.

who is suppose to pay me?


He won't give me no trouble..

I'LL FUCKING SLAP HIS HEAD!


It better me more than 200 dollars!





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#659706

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-20 17:16 -0600
Message-ID<vk4trr$14rf0$1@solani.org>
In reply to#659696
On 12/20/24 11:34 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> i don't know
> if there is a bounty
> on his head, but i was
> wondering how much is it?
> 
> I'll take him in, dead or alive if
> thats what the wanted poster reads.
> Is it a million? ten million??
> 
> I'm a bounty hunter!
> 
> It's a living.
> 
> who is suppose to pay me?
> 
> 
> He won't give me no trouble..
> 
> I'LL FUCKING SLAP HIS HEAD!
> 
> 
> It better me more than 200 dollars!


Hehe :) If killing him solved any problem he'd be dead a long time back.

Problem is USA, not its stooges. USA is the number one problem in the 
world. Getting worse too cause Americans have started sensing what's 
coming to them. They thought their government was on their side :)



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#659697

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-20 09:48 -0800
Message-ID<6765ADD7.3E71@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#659645
So, ...did Trump already made a peace deal with Putin,
or is Putin going to drop a bomb somewhere before the end of December?

I mean, you got those thousand of north koreans fight for putin..

wat up wit dese koreans anyway???

Nixon told Kissenger "How about dropping a nucluer bomb on those North Koreans?"

Kissenger told him, "That's a little too much."


When Trump first became President, he asked Obama
"What's the biggest problem?"

Obama sez: "Those North Koreans!"


I sez Nixon shouldn't have listen to Kissenger and dropped dat bomb.

Now dat proxy might repeat history and drop it on us!


Fucking China is behind all dis...


dis world don't need chinks.

I don't get it, wats dis 'slanted eye' business, whose fucking idea was dat???




A penquin walks into a bar
and ask the bartender..

"Have you seen my brother?"

The bartender replies, "What does he look like?"






The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > ww3
> > >
> > > Imagine if you will..
> > > Ukraine is a proxy of
> > > the United States...
> > >
> > > and since there are
> > > thousands of
> > > North Koreans
> > > fighting for Russia,
> > > we are at war again with
> > > North Korea!
> > >
> > > Why does the
> > > United States gets
> > > itself in these chink wars?
> > >
> > > But, mosts of yous..
> > > if not all of yous,
> > > don't know History.
> > >
> > > Like for example, in ww2
> > >
> > > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> > >
> > > But, mosts of yous..
> > > if not all of yous,
> > > don't know History and
> > > don't know the answer
> > > to that question.
> > >
> > > And if I give you a hint..
> > > it will make it worse!
> > >
> > > So, I'm going to give you the
> > > hint anyway.
> > >
> > > The United States dropped the
> > > Atomic Bomb on Japan, twice.
> > >
> > > Now, the 'Fact' is..
> > >
> > > the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan in August, 1945...
> > >
> > > but, Albert Einstein was informed that the atomic bomb would
> > > be used on Japan back in March 1945 that same year..
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein didn't mentioned to anyone for 5 months, Why?
> > >
> > > Why?
> > >
> > > Because, Albert Einstein wanted ALL the people in Japan to die!
> > >
> > > Now you asking yourself the Question,
> > >
> > > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> > >
> > > Let's go back to Question number one...
> > >
> > > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> > >
> > > If you know the True answer to that first question, then you
> > > should know the answer to:
> > >
> > > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> >
> > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> >
> > From the point of view of world leaders, when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.. Winston Churlhill knew right away that
> > the Unted States will go to war with Germany.
> >
> > Here are quotes from Albert Einstein on his views of Japan:
> >
> > "This,  however,  does  not  cause  me  to  consider  the intrigues  of Japan and the powers behind her any less damnable
> > than you do.I have on various occasions hinted at the possibility of an international economic boycott against Japan, only to
> > find that nothing could be achieved, obviously because of the powerful private economic  interests  that  are  involved!"
> >
> >  He shared the widespread  view  on  the  left  that  Japan’s attack  on  Manchuria  was  encouraged  by  those  who  sought to  undermine  the  Soviet  Union.
> > To Barbusse he wrote:
> > "Ever since Japan embarked on its Manchurian ad-venture, it has been clear to me that it was supported by powerful, invisible allies,"  and  he
> >   further  presumed  that  "they  are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the disarmament effort."
> >
> > "by powerful, invisible allies"????
> >
> > Now, I'm going to answer the first question:
> >
> > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> >
> > The answer is very simple..
> >
> > In ww2, Japan was an ally of Germany.
> >
> > Japan was a proxy of Germany
> >
> > "by powerful, invisible allies"???? Germany of course!
> >
> > Japan and Germany were the axixes of evil in ww2 days.
> >
> > I love war.
> 
> As anyone can clearly see (if you understand Albert Einstein's foreign
> policy)
> 
> Albert Einstein is a self-appointed world Earth leader..his own one
> world government.
> 
> In Einstein's view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the
> leaders of individual nations answered to his single supranational
> government.
> 
> Albert Einstein's policy is:
> that we live in peace,
> without arms or armies, secure in
> the knowledge that we are free from
> aggression and war -- free to pursue
> more profitable enterprises.
> 
> "they (Japan and Germany) are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the
> disarmament effort."-- Albert Einstien
> 
> Sabotaging Albert Einstein's disarment effort.
> 
> The penalty for sabotaging Einstein's disarmament effort is too terrible
> to risk.
> 
> In other words, you fuck with Albert Einstein and you're fucking dead!
> 
> Albert Einstein: "I'LL DROP A FUCKING ATOMIC BOMB ON YOUR FUCKING
> COUNTRY!!!!"
> 
> "I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU WHOLE FUCKING FAMILY, AND YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY!!"
> 
> ...world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual
> nations answered to his single supranational government.
> 
> No wonder Israel tried to get Albert Einstein to be President of
> Israel...
> 
> Israel wanted to be...head of The One World Government!
> 
> Following are quotes from Albert Einstein:
> 
> But in blaming the Russians the Americans should not ignore the fact
> that they themselves have not voluntarily
> renounced the use of the bomb as an ordinary weapon in the time before
> the achievement of supranational control, or if supranational control
> is not achieved. Thus they have fed the fear of other countries that
> they consider the bomb a legitimate part of their arsenal so long as
>  other countries decline to accept their terms for supranational
> control.
> 
> Albert Einstein: "There is only one path to peace and security: the path
> of supranational organization."
> 
> Albert Einstein: "to control all military forces except for local police
> forces, including nuclear weapons", are the only way to prevent nuclear
> war.
> 
> As one immune from nationalist bias, I personally see a simple way of
> dealing with the superficial (i.e., administrative) aspect of
> the problem: the setting up, by international consent, of a legislative
> and judicial body to settle every conflict arising between nations.
> Each nation would undertake to abide by the orders issued by this
> legislative body, to invoke its decision in every dispute, -Albert
> Einstein
> 
> The United Nations now, and world government eventually, must serve one
> single goal – the guarantee of the security,
> tranquillity and the welfare of all mankind. -Albert Einstein
> 
> … for as long as atomic energy and armaments are considered a vital part
> of national security no nation will give more
> than lip service to international treaties. Security . . . can be
> reached only when necessary guarantees of law and enforcement obtain
> everywhere, so
> that military security is no longer the problem of any single state.
> There is no compromise possible between preparation for war, on the one
> hand, and
> preparation of a world society based on law and order on the other.
> -Albert Einstein
> 
> The only hope for protection lies in the securing of peace in a
> supranational way. A world government must be created
> which is able to solve conflicts between nations by judicial decision. .
> . based on a clear cut constitution which is approved by the governments
> and
> the nations and which gives it the sole disposition of offensive
> weapons. A person or a nation can be considered peace loving only if it
> is ready to cede
> its military force to the international authorities and to renounce
> every attempt or even the means of achieving its interests abroad by the
> use of force.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#659698

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-20 10:08 -0800
Message-ID<6765B2B0.4B21@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#659697
I mean, let's be real here...

there is something no one wants to talk about...

China dropped a biologial weapon on the U.S.A because
China didn't like Trump's foreign policies.

You saw what it did. It closed down the store.

China will do it again (one way or another)


because China wants to be head of the world!


It's gonna take more than 2 bombs to make the chinks surrender.


dis is ww3 coming up..

i don't mind
i like war.

better than call of duty on xbox...


but the 'rage' won't go away.



The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> So, ...did Trump already made a peace deal with Putin,
> or is Putin going to drop a bomb somewhere before the end of December?
> 
> I mean, you got those thousand of north koreans fight for putin..
> 
> wat up wit dese koreans anyway???
> 
> Nixon told Kissenger "How about dropping a nucluer bomb on those North Koreans?"
> 
> Kissenger told him, "That's a little too much."
> 
> When Trump first became President, he asked Obama
> "What's the biggest problem?"
> 
> Obama sez: "Those North Koreans!"
> 
> I sez Nixon shouldn't have listen to Kissenger and dropped dat bomb.
> 
> Now dat proxy might repeat history and drop it on us!
> 
> Fucking China is behind all dis...
> 
> dis world don't need chinks.
> 
> I don't get it, wats dis 'slanted eye' business, whose fucking idea was dat???
> 
> A penquin walks into a bar
> and ask the bartender..
> 
> "Have you seen my brother?"
> 
> The bartender replies, "What does he look like?"
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ww3
> > > >
> > > > Imagine if you will..
> > > > Ukraine is a proxy of
> > > > the United States...
> > > >
> > > > and since there are
> > > > thousands of
> > > > North Koreans
> > > > fighting for Russia,
> > > > we are at war again with
> > > > North Korea!
> > > >
> > > > Why does the
> > > > United States gets
> > > > itself in these chink wars?
> > > >
> > > > But, mosts of yous..
> > > > if not all of yous,
> > > > don't know History.
> > > >
> > > > Like for example, in ww2
> > > >
> > > > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> > > >
> > > > But, mosts of yous..
> > > > if not all of yous,
> > > > don't know History and
> > > > don't know the answer
> > > > to that question.
> > > >
> > > > And if I give you a hint..
> > > > it will make it worse!
> > > >
> > > > So, I'm going to give you the
> > > > hint anyway.
> > > >
> > > > The United States dropped the
> > > > Atomic Bomb on Japan, twice.
> > > >
> > > > Now, the 'Fact' is..
> > > >
> > > > the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan in August, 1945...
> > > >
> > > > but, Albert Einstein was informed that the atomic bomb would
> > > > be used on Japan back in March 1945 that same year..
> > > >
> > > > Albert Einstein didn't mentioned to anyone for 5 months, Why?
> > > >
> > > > Why?
> > > >
> > > > Because, Albert Einstein wanted ALL the people in Japan to die!
> > > >
> > > > Now you asking yourself the Question,
> > > >
> > > > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> > > >
> > > > Let's go back to Question number one...
> > > >
> > > > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> > > >
> > > > If you know the True answer to that first question, then you
> > > > should know the answer to:
> > > >
> > > > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> > >
> > > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> > >
> > > From the point of view of world leaders, when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.. Winston Churlhill knew right away that
> > > the Unted States will go to war with Germany.
> > >
> > > Here are quotes from Albert Einstein on his views of Japan:
> > >
> > > "This,  however,  does  not  cause  me  to  consider  the intrigues  of Japan and the powers behind her any less damnable
> > > than you do.I have on various occasions hinted at the possibility of an international economic boycott against Japan, only to
> > > find that nothing could be achieved, obviously because of the powerful private economic  interests  that  are  involved!"
> > >
> > >  He shared the widespread  view  on  the  left  that  Japan’s attack  on  Manchuria  was  encouraged  by  those  who  sought to  undermine  the  Soviet  Union.
> > > To Barbusse he wrote:
> > > "Ever since Japan embarked on its Manchurian ad-venture, it has been clear to me that it was supported by powerful, invisible allies,"  and  he
> > >   further  presumed  that  "they  are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the disarmament effort."
> > >
> > > "by powerful, invisible allies"????
> > >
> > > Now, I'm going to answer the first question:
> > >
> > > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> > >
> > > The answer is very simple..
> > >
> > > In ww2, Japan was an ally of Germany.
> > >
> > > Japan was a proxy of Germany
> > >
> > > "by powerful, invisible allies"???? Germany of course!
> > >
> > > Japan and Germany were the axixes of evil in ww2 days.
> > >
> > > I love war.
> >
> > As anyone can clearly see (if you understand Albert Einstein's foreign
> > policy)
> >
> > Albert Einstein is a self-appointed world Earth leader..his own one
> > world government.
> >
> > In Einstein's view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the
> > leaders of individual nations answered to his single supranational
> > government.
> >
> > Albert Einstein's policy is:
> > that we live in peace,
> > without arms or armies, secure in
> > the knowledge that we are free from
> > aggression and war -- free to pursue
> > more profitable enterprises.
> >
> > "they (Japan and Germany) are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the
> > disarmament effort."-- Albert Einstien
> >
> > Sabotaging Albert Einstein's disarment effort.
> >
> > The penalty for sabotaging Einstein's disarmament effort is too terrible
> > to risk.
> >
> > In other words, you fuck with Albert Einstein and you're fucking dead!
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "I'LL DROP A FUCKING ATOMIC BOMB ON YOUR FUCKING
> > COUNTRY!!!!"
> >
> > "I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU WHOLE FUCKING FAMILY, AND YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY!!"
> >
> > ...world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual
> > nations answered to his single supranational government.
> >
> > No wonder Israel tried to get Albert Einstein to be President of
> > Israel...
> >
> > Israel wanted to be...head of The One World Government!
> >
> > Following are quotes from Albert Einstein:
> >
> > But in blaming the Russians the Americans should not ignore the fact
> > that they themselves have not voluntarily
> > renounced the use of the bomb as an ordinary weapon in the time before
> > the achievement of supranational control, or if supranational control
> > is not achieved. Thus they have fed the fear of other countries that
> > they consider the bomb a legitimate part of their arsenal so long as
> >  other countries decline to accept their terms for supranational
> > control.
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "There is only one path to peace and security: the path
> > of supranational organization."
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "to control all military forces except for local police
> > forces, including nuclear weapons", are the only way to prevent nuclear
> > war.
> >
> > As one immune from nationalist bias, I personally see a simple way of
> > dealing with the superficial (i.e., administrative) aspect of
> > the problem: the setting up, by international consent, of a legislative
> > and judicial body to settle every conflict arising between nations.
> > Each nation would undertake to abide by the orders issued by this
> > legislative body, to invoke its decision in every dispute, -Albert
> > Einstein
> >
> > The United Nations now, and world government eventually, must serve one
> > single goal – the guarantee of the security,
> > tranquillity and the welfare of all mankind. -Albert Einstein
> >
> > … for as long as atomic energy and armaments are considered a vital part
> > of national security no nation will give more
> > than lip service to international treaties. Security . . . can be
> > reached only when necessary guarantees of law and enforcement obtain
> > everywhere, so
> > that military security is no longer the problem of any single state.
> > There is no compromise possible between preparation for war, on the one
> > hand, and
> > preparation of a world society based on law and order on the other.
> > -Albert Einstein
> >
> > The only hope for protection lies in the securing of peace in a
> > supranational way. A world government must be created
> > which is able to solve conflicts between nations by judicial decision. .
> > . based on a clear cut constitution which is approved by the governments
> > and
> > the nations and which gives it the sole disposition of offensive
> > weapons. A person or a nation can be considered peace loving only if it
> > is ready to cede
> > its military force to the international authorities and to renounce
> > every attempt or even the means of achieving its interests abroad by the
> > use of force.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#659699

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-20 11:32 -0700
Message-ID<l7mcnaSEwfa7Jfj6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#659698
The Starmaker wrote:
> I mean, let's be real here...
> 
> there is something no one wants to talk about...
> 
> China dropped a biologial weapon on the U.S.A because
> China didn't like Trump's foreign policies.
> 
> You saw what it did. It closed down the store.
> 
> China will do it again (one way or another)
> 
> 
> because China wants to be head of the world!
> 
> 
> It's gonna take more than 2 bombs to make the chinks surrender.
> 
> 
> dis is ww3 coming up..
> 
> i don't mind
> i like war.
> 
> better than call of duty on xbox...
> 
> 
> but the 'rage' won't go away.
> 
> 
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> So, ...did Trump already made a peace deal with Putin,
>> or is Putin going to drop a bomb somewhere before the end of December?
>>
>> I mean, you got those thousand of north koreans fight for putin..
>>
>> wat up wit dese koreans anyway???
>>
>> Nixon told Kissenger "How about dropping a nucluer bomb on those North Koreans?"
>>
>> Kissenger told him, "That's a little too much."
>>
>> When Trump first became President, he asked Obama
>> "What's the biggest problem?"
>>
>> Obama sez: "Those North Koreans!"
>>
>> I sez Nixon shouldn't have listen to Kissenger and dropped dat bomb.
>>
>> Now dat proxy might repeat history and drop it on us!
>>
>> Fucking China is behind all dis...
>>
>> dis world don't need chinks.
>>
>> I don't get it, wats dis 'slanted eye' business, whose fucking idea was dat???
>>
>> A penquin walks into a bar
>> and ask the bartender..
>>
>> "Have you seen my brother?"
>>
>> The bartender replies, "What does he look like?"
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ww3
>>>>>
>>>>> Imagine if you will..
>>>>> Ukraine is a proxy of
>>>>> the United States...
>>>>>
>>>>> and since there are
>>>>> thousands of
>>>>> North Koreans
>>>>> fighting for Russia,
>>>>> we are at war again with
>>>>> North Korea!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does the
>>>>> United States gets
>>>>> itself in these chink wars?
>>>>>
>>>>> But, mosts of yous..
>>>>> if not all of yous,
>>>>> don't know History.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like for example, in ww2
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
>>>>>
>>>>> But, mosts of yous..
>>>>> if not all of yous,
>>>>> don't know History and
>>>>> don't know the answer
>>>>> to that question.
>>>>>
>>>>> And if I give you a hint..
>>>>> it will make it worse!
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I'm going to give you the
>>>>> hint anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> The United States dropped the
>>>>> Atomic Bomb on Japan, twice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, the 'Fact' is..
>>>>>
>>>>> the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan in August, 1945...
>>>>>
>>>>> but, Albert Einstein was informed that the atomic bomb would
>>>>> be used on Japan back in March 1945 that same year..
>>>>>
>>>>> Albert Einstein didn't mentioned to anyone for 5 months, Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because, Albert Einstein wanted ALL the people in Japan to die!
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you asking yourself the Question,
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's go back to Question number one...
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
>>>>>
>>>>> If you know the True answer to that first question, then you
>>>>> should know the answer to:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
>>>>
>>>> Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
>>>>
>>>>  From the point of view of world leaders, when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.. Winston Churlhill knew right away that
>>>> the Unted States will go to war with Germany.
>>>>
>>>> Here are quotes from Albert Einstein on his views of Japan:
>>>>
>>>> "This,  however,  does  not  cause  me  to  consider  the intrigues  of Japan and the powers behind her any less damnable
>>>> than you do.I have on various occasions hinted at the possibility of an international economic boycott against Japan, only to
>>>> find that nothing could be achieved, obviously because of the powerful private economic  interests  that  are  involved!"
>>>>
>>>>   He shared the widespread  view  on  the  left  that  Japan’s attack  on  Manchuria  was  encouraged  by  those  who  sought to  undermine  the  Soviet  Union.
>>>> To Barbusse he wrote:
>>>> "Ever since Japan embarked on its Manchurian ad-venture, it has been clear to me that it was supported by powerful, invisible allies,"  and  he
>>>>    further  presumed  that  "they  are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the disarmament effort."
>>>>
>>>> "by powerful, invisible allies"????
>>>>
>>>> Now, I'm going to answer the first question:
>>>>
>>>> Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
>>>>
>>>> The answer is very simple..
>>>>
>>>> In ww2, Japan was an ally of Germany.
>>>>
>>>> Japan was a proxy of Germany
>>>>
>>>> "by powerful, invisible allies"???? Germany of course!
>>>>
>>>> Japan and Germany were the axixes of evil in ww2 days.
>>>>
>>>> I love war.
>>>
>>> As anyone can clearly see (if you understand Albert Einstein's foreign
>>> policy)
>>>
>>> Albert Einstein is a self-appointed world Earth leader..his own one
>>> world government.
>>>
>>> In Einstein's view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the
>>> leaders of individual nations answered to his single supranational
>>> government.
>>>
>>> Albert Einstein's policy is:
>>> that we live in peace,
>>> without arms or armies, secure in
>>> the knowledge that we are free from
>>> aggression and war -- free to pursue
>>> more profitable enterprises.
>>>
>>> "they (Japan and Germany) are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the
>>> disarmament effort."-- Albert Einstien
>>>
>>> Sabotaging Albert Einstein's disarment effort.
>>>
>>> The penalty for sabotaging Einstein's disarmament effort is too terrible
>>> to risk.
>>>
>>> In other words, you fuck with Albert Einstein and you're fucking dead!
>>>
>>> Albert Einstein: "I'LL DROP A FUCKING ATOMIC BOMB ON YOUR FUCKING
>>> COUNTRY!!!!"
>>>
>>> "I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU WHOLE FUCKING FAMILY, AND YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY!!"
>>>
>>> ...world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual
>>> nations answered to his single supranational government.
>>>
>>> No wonder Israel tried to get Albert Einstein to be President of
>>> Israel...
>>>
>>> Israel wanted to be...head of The One World Government!
>>>
>>> Following are quotes from Albert Einstein:
>>>
>>> But in blaming the Russians the Americans should not ignore the fact
>>> that they themselves have not voluntarily
>>> renounced the use of the bomb as an ordinary weapon in the time before
>>> the achievement of supranational control, or if supranational control
>>> is not achieved. Thus they have fed the fear of other countries that
>>> they consider the bomb a legitimate part of their arsenal so long as
>>>   other countries decline to accept their terms for supranational
>>> control.
>>>
>>> Albert Einstein: "There is only one path to peace and security: the path
>>> of supranational organization."
>>>
>>> Albert Einstein: "to control all military forces except for local police
>>> forces, including nuclear weapons", are the only way to prevent nuclear
>>> war.
>>>
>>> As one immune from nationalist bias, I personally see a simple way of
>>> dealing with the superficial (i.e., administrative) aspect of
>>> the problem: the setting up, by international consent, of a legislative
>>> and judicial body to settle every conflict arising between nations.
>>> Each nation would undertake to abide by the orders issued by this
>>> legislative body, to invoke its decision in every dispute, -Albert
>>> Einstein
>>>
>>> The United Nations now, and world government eventually, must serve one
>>> single goal – the guarantee of the security,
>>> tranquillity and the welfare of all mankind. -Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> … for as long as atomic energy and armaments are considered a vital part
>>> of national security no nation will give more
>>> than lip service to international treaties. Security . . . can be
>>> reached only when necessary guarantees of law and enforcement obtain
>>> everywhere, so
>>> that military security is no longer the problem of any single state.
>>> There is no compromise possible between preparation for war, on the one
>>> hand, and
>>> preparation of a world society based on law and order on the other.
>>> -Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> The only hope for protection lies in the securing of peace in a
>>> supranational way. A world government must be created
>>> which is able to solve conflicts between nations by judicial decision. .
>>> . based on a clear cut constitution which is approved by the governments
>>> and
>>> the nations and which gives it the sole disposition of offensive
>>> weapons. A person or a nation can be considered peace loving only if it
>>> is ready to cede
>>> its military force to the international authorities and to renounce
>>> every attempt or even the means of achieving its interests abroad by the
>>> use of force.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>> and challenge the unchallengeable.
>>
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge the unchallengeable.
> 
so

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#659804

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-24 00:38 -0800
Message-ID<676A7322.E1E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#659697
Most likely Trump already amde a peace deal with Putin, otherwise
Putin would have already dropped the bomb.

The Peace deal would consist of Putin's reason for invading Ukraine in
the first place.


When Putin first invaded Ukraine, I posted at that very moment WHY:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics.relativity/c/v56zSjAEV2c/m/5rFiHr_dAAAJ

and it has not changed...

The Ukraine guy said if
i cannot be part of NATO
then I will put atomic bombs
pointing at Russia.

Russia said, "I cannot have that."

So, Russia needed to grab Ukraine
before it happens.


Putin wants the same deal he always wanted from the very beginning...

No atomic bombs pointing at Russia from Ukraine, and no NATO for
Ukraine.


dats the deal today.





The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> So, ...did Trump already made a peace deal with Putin,
> or is Putin going to drop a bomb somewhere before the end of December?
> 
> I mean, you got those thousand of north koreans fight for putin..
> 
> wat up wit dese koreans anyway???
> 
> Nixon told Kissenger "How about dropping a nucluer bomb on those North Koreans?"
> 
> Kissenger told him, "That's a little too much."
> 
> When Trump first became President, he asked Obama
> "What's the biggest problem?"
> 
> Obama sez: "Those North Koreans!"
> 
> I sez Nixon shouldn't have listen to Kissenger and dropped dat bomb.
> 
> Now dat proxy might repeat history and drop it on us!
> 
> Fucking China is behind all dis...
> 
> dis world don't need chinks.
> 
> I don't get it, wats dis 'slanted eye' business, whose fucking idea was dat???
> 
> A penquin walks into a bar
> and ask the bartender..
> 
> "Have you seen my brother?"
> 
> The bartender replies, "What does he look like?"
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ww3
> > > >
> > > > Imagine if you will..
> > > > Ukraine is a proxy of
> > > > the United States...
> > > >
> > > > and since there are
> > > > thousands of
> > > > North Koreans
> > > > fighting for Russia,
> > > > we are at war again with
> > > > North Korea!
> > > >
> > > > Why does the
> > > > United States gets
> > > > itself in these chink wars?
> > > >
> > > > But, mosts of yous..
> > > > if not all of yous,
> > > > don't know History.
> > > >
> > > > Like for example, in ww2
> > > >
> > > > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> > > >
> > > > But, mosts of yous..
> > > > if not all of yous,
> > > > don't know History and
> > > > don't know the answer
> > > > to that question.
> > > >
> > > > And if I give you a hint..
> > > > it will make it worse!
> > > >
> > > > So, I'm going to give you the
> > > > hint anyway.
> > > >
> > > > The United States dropped the
> > > > Atomic Bomb on Japan, twice.
> > > >
> > > > Now, the 'Fact' is..
> > > >
> > > > the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan in August, 1945...
> > > >
> > > > but, Albert Einstein was informed that the atomic bomb would
> > > > be used on Japan back in March 1945 that same year..
> > > >
> > > > Albert Einstein didn't mentioned to anyone for 5 months, Why?
> > > >
> > > > Why?
> > > >
> > > > Because, Albert Einstein wanted ALL the people in Japan to die!
> > > >
> > > > Now you asking yourself the Question,
> > > >
> > > > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> > > >
> > > > Let's go back to Question number one...
> > > >
> > > > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> > > >
> > > > If you know the True answer to that first question, then you
> > > > should know the answer to:
> > > >
> > > > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> > >
> > > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> > >
> > > From the point of view of world leaders, when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.. Winston Churlhill knew right away that
> > > the Unted States will go to war with Germany.
> > >
> > > Here are quotes from Albert Einstein on his views of Japan:
> > >
> > > "This,  however,  does  not  cause  me  to  consider  the intrigues  of Japan and the powers behind her any less damnable
> > > than you do.I have on various occasions hinted at the possibility of an international economic boycott against Japan, only to
> > > find that nothing could be achieved, obviously because of the powerful private economic  interests  that  are  involved!"
> > >
> > >  He shared the widespread  view  on  the  left  that  Japan’s attack  on  Manchuria  was  encouraged  by  those  who  sought to  undermine  the  Soviet  Union.
> > > To Barbusse he wrote:
> > > "Ever since Japan embarked on its Manchurian ad-venture, it has been clear to me that it was supported by powerful, invisible allies,"  and  he
> > >   further  presumed  that  "they  are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the disarmament effort."
> > >
> > > "by powerful, invisible allies"????
> > >
> > > Now, I'm going to answer the first question:
> > >
> > > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> > >
> > > The answer is very simple..
> > >
> > > In ww2, Japan was an ally of Germany.
> > >
> > > Japan was a proxy of Germany
> > >
> > > "by powerful, invisible allies"???? Germany of course!
> > >
> > > Japan and Germany were the axixes of evil in ww2 days.
> > >
> > > I love war.
> >
> > As anyone can clearly see (if you understand Albert Einstein's foreign
> > policy)
> >
> > Albert Einstein is a self-appointed world Earth leader..his own one
> > world government.
> >
> > In Einstein's view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the
> > leaders of individual nations answered to his single supranational
> > government.
> >
> > Albert Einstein's policy is:
> > that we live in peace,
> > without arms or armies, secure in
> > the knowledge that we are free from
> > aggression and war -- free to pursue
> > more profitable enterprises.
> >
> > "they (Japan and Germany) are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the
> > disarmament effort."-- Albert Einstien
> >
> > Sabotaging Albert Einstein's disarment effort.
> >
> > The penalty for sabotaging Einstein's disarmament effort is too terrible
> > to risk.
> >
> > In other words, you fuck with Albert Einstein and you're fucking dead!
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "I'LL DROP A FUCKING ATOMIC BOMB ON YOUR FUCKING
> > COUNTRY!!!!"
> >
> > "I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU WHOLE FUCKING FAMILY, AND YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY!!"
> >
> > ...world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual
> > nations answered to his single supranational government.
> >
> > No wonder Israel tried to get Albert Einstein to be President of
> > Israel...
> >
> > Israel wanted to be...head of The One World Government!
> >
> > Following are quotes from Albert Einstein:
> >
> > But in blaming the Russians the Americans should not ignore the fact
> > that they themselves have not voluntarily
> > renounced the use of the bomb as an ordinary weapon in the time before
> > the achievement of supranational control, or if supranational control
> > is not achieved. Thus they have fed the fear of other countries that
> > they consider the bomb a legitimate part of their arsenal so long as
> >  other countries decline to accept their terms for supranational
> > control.
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "There is only one path to peace and security: the path
> > of supranational organization."
> >
> > Albert Einstein: "to control all military forces except for local police
> > forces, including nuclear weapons", are the only way to prevent nuclear
> > war.
> >
> > As one immune from nationalist bias, I personally see a simple way of
> > dealing with the superficial (i.e., administrative) aspect of
> > the problem: the setting up, by international consent, of a legislative
> > and judicial body to settle every conflict arising between nations.
> > Each nation would undertake to abide by the orders issued by this
> > legislative body, to invoke its decision in every dispute, -Albert
> > Einstein
> >
> > The United Nations now, and world government eventually, must serve one
> > single goal – the guarantee of the security,
> > tranquillity and the welfare of all mankind. -Albert Einstein
> >
> > … for as long as atomic energy and armaments are considered a vital part
> > of national security no nation will give more
> > than lip service to international treaties. Security . . . can be
> > reached only when necessary guarantees of law and enforcement obtain
> > everywhere, so
> > that military security is no longer the problem of any single state.
> > There is no compromise possible between preparation for war, on the one
> > hand, and
> > preparation of a world society based on law and order on the other.
> > -Albert Einstein
> >
> > The only hope for protection lies in the securing of peace in a
> > supranational way. A world government must be created
> > which is able to solve conflicts between nations by judicial decision. .
> > . based on a clear cut constitution which is approved by the governments
> > and
> > the nations and which gives it the sole disposition of offensive
> > weapons. A person or a nation can be considered peace loving only if it
> > is ready to cede
> > its military force to the international authorities and to renounce
> > every attempt or even the means of achieving its interests abroad by the
> > use of force.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#659857

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-12-27 11:08 -0800
Message-ID<676EFB24.25F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#659804
Let me give you a short history..

Albert Einstein said nuclear weapons should
be pointing to Russia at the borders.

Ukraine used to have nuclear weapons, but
President Biden removed them from Ukraine.

Ukraine said if they didn't let him in NATO he
would put back the nuclear weapons.

Putin thought "I got to get Ukraine before dat happens!"


My peace plan would be to Putin...

"Okay Putin, you can keep the little land you
stole from Ukraine (under President Biden stupid corrupt admistration),
and I promise Ukraine will never be a member of NATO...but,
the nuclear weapons will be put back in pointing at you like
Albert Einstein first suggested."



Back to the way things used to be..












The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Most likely Trump already amde a peace deal with Putin, otherwise
> Putin would have already dropped the bomb.
> 
> The Peace deal would consist of Putin's reason for invading Ukraine in
> the first place.
> 
> When Putin first invaded Ukraine, I posted at that very moment WHY:
> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics.relativity/c/v56zSjAEV2c/m/5rFiHr_dAAAJ
> 
> and it has not changed...
> 
> The Ukraine guy said if
> i cannot be part of NATO
> then I will put atomic bombs
> pointing at Russia.
> 
> Russia said, "I cannot have that."
> 
> So, Russia needed to grab Ukraine
> before it happens.
> 
> Putin wants the same deal he always wanted from the very beginning...
> 
> No atomic bombs pointing at Russia from Ukraine, and no NATO for
> Ukraine.
> 
> dats the deal today.
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > So, ...did Trump already made a peace deal with Putin,
> > or is Putin going to drop a bomb somewhere before the end of December?
> >
> > I mean, you got those thousand of north koreans fight for putin..
> >
> > wat up wit dese koreans anyway???
> >
> > Nixon told Kissenger "How about dropping a nucluer bomb on those North Koreans?"
> >
> > Kissenger told him, "That's a little too much."
> >
> > When Trump first became President, he asked Obama
> > "What's the biggest problem?"
> >
> > Obama sez: "Those North Koreans!"
> >
> > I sez Nixon shouldn't have listen to Kissenger and dropped dat bomb.
> >
> > Now dat proxy might repeat history and drop it on us!
> >
> > Fucking China is behind all dis...
> >
> > dis world don't need chinks.
> >
> > I don't get it, wats dis 'slanted eye' business, whose fucking idea was dat???
> >
> > A penquin walks into a bar
> > and ask the bartender..
> >
> > "Have you seen my brother?"
> >
> > The bartender replies, "What does he look like?"
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ww3
> > > > >
> > > > > Imagine if you will..
> > > > > Ukraine is a proxy of
> > > > > the United States...
> > > > >
> > > > > and since there are
> > > > > thousands of
> > > > > North Koreans
> > > > > fighting for Russia,
> > > > > we are at war again with
> > > > > North Korea!
> > > > >
> > > > > Why does the
> > > > > United States gets
> > > > > itself in these chink wars?
> > > > >
> > > > > But, mosts of yous..
> > > > > if not all of yous,
> > > > > don't know History.
> > > > >
> > > > > Like for example, in ww2
> > > > >
> > > > > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> > > > >
> > > > > But, mosts of yous..
> > > > > if not all of yous,
> > > > > don't know History and
> > > > > don't know the answer
> > > > > to that question.
> > > > >
> > > > > And if I give you a hint..
> > > > > it will make it worse!
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I'm going to give you the
> > > > > hint anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > The United States dropped the
> > > > > Atomic Bomb on Japan, twice.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, the 'Fact' is..
> > > > >
> > > > > the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan in August, 1945...
> > > > >
> > > > > but, Albert Einstein was informed that the atomic bomb would
> > > > > be used on Japan back in March 1945 that same year..
> > > > >
> > > > > Albert Einstein didn't mentioned to anyone for 5 months, Why?
> > > > >
> > > > > Why?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because, Albert Einstein wanted ALL the people in Japan to die!
> > > > >
> > > > > Now you asking yourself the Question,
> > > > >
> > > > > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's go back to Question number one...
> > > > >
> > > > > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> > > > >
> > > > > If you know the True answer to that first question, then you
> > > > > should know the answer to:
> > > > >
> > > > > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> > > >
> > > > Why did Albert Einstein wanted all the people in Japan to die?
> > > >
> > > > From the point of view of world leaders, when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.. Winston Churlhill knew right away that
> > > > the Unted States will go to war with Germany.
> > > >
> > > > Here are quotes from Albert Einstein on his views of Japan:
> > > >
> > > > "This,  however,  does  not  cause  me  to  consider  the intrigues  of Japan and the powers behind her any less damnable
> > > > than you do.I have on various occasions hinted at the possibility of an international economic boycott against Japan, only to
> > > > find that nothing could be achieved, obviously because of the powerful private economic  interests  that  are  involved!"
> > > >
> > > >  He shared the widespread  view  on  the  left  that  Japan’s attack  on  Manchuria  was  encouraged  by  those  who  sought to  undermine  the  Soviet  Union.
> > > > To Barbusse he wrote:
> > > > "Ever since Japan embarked on its Manchurian ad-venture, it has been clear to me that it was supported by powerful, invisible allies,"  and  he
> > > >   further  presumed  that  "they  are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the disarmament effort."
> > > >
> > > > "by powerful, invisible allies"????
> > > >
> > > > Now, I'm going to answer the first question:
> > > >
> > > > Why did Japan bombed Pearl Harbor????
> > > >
> > > > The answer is very simple..
> > > >
> > > > In ww2, Japan was an ally of Germany.
> > > >
> > > > Japan was a proxy of Germany
> > > >
> > > > "by powerful, invisible allies"???? Germany of course!
> > > >
> > > > Japan and Germany were the axixes of evil in ww2 days.
> > > >
> > > > I love war.
> > >
> > > As anyone can clearly see (if you understand Albert Einstein's foreign
> > > policy)
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein is a self-appointed world Earth leader..his own one
> > > world government.
> > >
> > > In Einstein's view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the
> > > leaders of individual nations answered to his single supranational
> > > government.
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein's policy is:
> > > that we live in peace,
> > > without arms or armies, secure in
> > > the knowledge that we are free from
> > > aggression and war -- free to pursue
> > > more profitable enterprises.
> > >
> > > "they (Japan and Germany) are  the  same forces which are sabotaging the
> > > disarmament effort."-- Albert Einstien
> > >
> > > Sabotaging Albert Einstein's disarment effort.
> > >
> > > The penalty for sabotaging Einstein's disarmament effort is too terrible
> > > to risk.
> > >
> > > In other words, you fuck with Albert Einstein and you're fucking dead!
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein: "I'LL DROP A FUCKING ATOMIC BOMB ON YOUR FUCKING
> > > COUNTRY!!!!"
> > >
> > > "I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU WHOLE FUCKING FAMILY, AND YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY!!"
> > >
> > > ...world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual
> > > nations answered to his single supranational government.
> > >
> > > No wonder Israel tried to get Albert Einstein to be President of
> > > Israel...
> > >
> > > Israel wanted to be...head of The One World Government!
> > >
> > > Following are quotes from Albert Einstein:
> > >
> > > But in blaming the Russians the Americans should not ignore the fact
> > > that they themselves have not voluntarily
> > > renounced the use of the bomb as an ordinary weapon in the time before
> > > the achievement of supranational control, or if supranational control
> > > is not achieved. Thus they have fed the fear of other countries that
> > > they consider the bomb a legitimate part of their arsenal so long as
> > >  other countries decline to accept their terms for supranational
> > > control.
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein: "There is only one path to peace and security: the path
> > > of supranational organization."
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein: "to control all military forces except for local police
> > > forces, including nuclear weapons", are the only way to prevent nuclear
> > > war.
> > >
> > > As one immune from nationalist bias, I personally see a simple way of
> > > dealing with the superficial (i.e., administrative) aspect of
> > > the problem: the setting up, by international consent, of a legislative
> > > and judicial body to settle every conflict arising between nations.
> > > Each nation would undertake to abide by the orders issued by this
> > > legislative body, to invoke its decision in every dispute, -Albert
> > > Einstein
> > >
> > > The United Nations now, and world government eventually, must serve one
> > > single goal – the guarantee of the security,
> > > tranquillity and the welfare of all mankind. -Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > … for as long as atomic energy and armaments are considered a vital part
> > > of national security no nation will give more
> > > than lip service to international treaties. Security . . . can be
> > > reached only when necessary guarantees of law and enforcement obtain
> > > everywhere, so
> > > that military security is no longer the problem of any single state.
> > > There is no compromise possible between preparation for war, on the one
> > > hand, and
> > > preparation of a world society based on law and order on the other.
> > > -Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > The only hope for protection lies in the securing of peace in a
> > > supranational way. A world government must be created
> > > which is able to solve conflicts between nations by judicial decision. .
> > > . based on a clear cut constitution which is approved by the governments
> > > and
> > > the nations and which gives it the sole disposition of offensive
> > > weapons. A person or a nation can be considered peace loving only if it
> > > is ready to cede
> > > its military force to the international authorities and to renounce
> > > every attempt or even the means of achieving its interests abroad by the
> > > use of force.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#659961

FromGronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
Date2024-12-30 00:14 -0700
Message-ID<vkth8q$1h1np$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#659804
The Starmaker wrote:
> Most likely Trump already amde a peace deal with Putin, otherwise

Which he can't legally do as a civilian.

> Putin would have already dropped the bomb.
> 
> The Peace deal would consist of Putin's reason for invading Ukraine in
> the first place.


> When Putin first invaded Ukraine, I posted at that very moment WHY:
> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics.relativity/c/v56zSjAEV2c/m/5rFiHr_dAAAJ
> 
> and it has not changed...
> 
> The Ukraine guy said if

Who? And just what did this  "Ukraine guy" say????

> i cannot be part of NATO
> then I will put atomic bombs
> pointing at Russia.
> 
> Russia said, "I cannot have that."

When doe she invade Sweden and Finland?

> So, Russia needed to grab Ukraine
> before it happens.
> 
> 
> Putin wants the same deal he always wanted from the very beginning...
> 
> No atomic bombs pointing at Russia from Ukraine, and no NATO for
> Ukraine.

There are alreadyu atom bombs pointing at him.


> dats the deal today.

#FelonDon's idea of a deal is to surrender.

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#660001

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-01 04:58 -0500
Message-ID<cu3anjla38uqtvkjjhq35rp9tq7m0pu5cs@4ax.com>
In reply to#659961
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 00:14:34 -0700, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
>The Starmaker wrote:
>> Most likely Trump already amde a peace deal with Putin, otherwise
>
>Which he can't legally do as a civilian.

Stop knee jerking, people.  Trump is sending signals that he is possibly even
more hawkish than Biden on Ukraine.  Kellogg has stated that the planned peace
proposition requires Russia and Ukraine to both lay down they arms.  Refusal by
either side carries consequences.  If Ukraine refuses to engage in peace talks,
the US will stop supporting them.  Otoh, if Russia refuses to engage in peace
talks, Trump will arm Ukraine to the teeth without restrictions.

Clearly, allowing Russia to have Ukraine gives China confidence in taking
Taiwan.  Otoh, stopping Czar Vladimir dead in his tracks will warn China that
the west will not allow expansion by conquest in the modern world.  The
developing administration (so far) seems aware of this.

NP:  The Beatles - Lonesome Tears In My Eyes (Pop Go The Beatles, BBC Radio,
1963)
-- 
Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did.  Get over it.

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#660005

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
Date2025-01-01 04:56 -0800
Message-ID<vl3e1t$2pirq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#660001
Governor Swill wrote:
> Stop knee jerking, people.  Trump is sending signals that he is possibly even
> more hawkish than Biden on Ukraine.  Kellogg has stated that the planned peace
> proposition requires Russia and Ukraine to both lay down they arms.  Refusal by
> either side carries consequences.  If Ukraine refuses to engage in peace talks,

I object to telling Ukraine what they will do. That is what 
Chamberlain did to Czechoslovakia. UK stripped them of the 
invasion defences, and then did nothing when Mr Hitler marched in 
to finish the job. Czechoslovakia was never consulted when 
Chamberlain brought UK peace in their time which only lasted a 
couple of years.

Ukraine has to live with the consequences of any peace. So let 
them participate in what the peace will be.

I object to USA stomping and dictating terms to Ukraine. I would 
like if the USA can help bring a peace both countries agree to. 
idjt is such a poor deal maker I do not expect him to achieve the 
success I want.

-- 
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#660046

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Message-ID<mk0dnjhlubcci28vuehn5dqojmq6bql0sb@4ax.com>
In reply to#660005
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:56:17 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill wrote:
>> Stop knee jerking, people.  Trump is sending signals that he is possibly even
>> more hawkish than Biden on Ukraine.  Kellogg has stated that the planned peace
>> proposition requires Russia and Ukraine to both lay down they arms.  Refusal by
>> either side carries consequences.  If Ukraine refuses to engage in peace talks,
>
>I object to telling Ukraine what they will do. That is what 
>Chamberlain did to Czechoslovakia. 

That's a bogus argument I won't let you get away with.  What Chamberlain did was
to give the aggressor what he wanted - the very opposite of what we're doing
now.

>UK stripped them of the 
>invasion defences, and then did nothing when Mr Hitler marched in 
>to finish the job. Czechoslovakia was never consulted when 
>Chamberlain brought UK peace in their time which only lasted a 
>couple of years.

But Ukraine HAS been consulted, continually.  Zelensky is forever on the move in
western capitals cultivating support for a war Ukraine wants very much to
pursue.  Pacifists love to claim there's no such think as a just war.  Certainly
there is no justification for Russia's aggression but Ukraine's defense of
itself is eminently justified.

>Ukraine has to live with the consequences of any peace. So let 
>them participate in what the peace will be.

I agree, Zelensky agrees, Trump and the rest of Europe agrees.  Only Putin
doesn't care what happens to Ukraine as long as he ends up with the deed.

>I object to USA stomping and dictating terms to Ukraine. I would 
>like if the USA can help bring a peace both countries agree to. 
>idjt is such a poor deal maker I do not expect him to achieve the 
>success I want.

The USA is neither 'stomping' nor 'dictating terms' to Ukraine.  Because of
Putin's possession of nukes, we've had to escalate cautiously and tie strings to
some of our aid as well as do what we could to make Europe responsible - we
can't be the entire planet's cop, judge and executioner.  The other continents
and regions have to learn to take care of themselves because we'll soon have our
hands full in eastern Asia and we'll need our allies ready to help us.

In the end, Ukraine will end up losing some territory.  What price Crimea?

NP:  Go West - From Baltimore to Paris
-- 
Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did.  Get over it.

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#660050

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
Date2025-01-02 06:43 -0800
Message-ID<vl68mi$3cngf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#660046
Governor Swill wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:56:17 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>> I object to telling Ukraine what they will do. That is what
>> Chamberlain did to Czechoslovakia.
> 
> That's a bogus argument I won't let you get away with.  What Chamberlain did was
> to give the aggressor what he wanted - the very opposite of what we're doing
> now.

And some are demanding that Ukraine abandon whatever Putin wants 
or weapon deliveries stop.

> But Ukraine HAS been consulted, continually.  Zelensky is forever on the move in
> western capitals cultivating support for a war Ukraine wants very much to

American politicians are all over the map. It was months for House 
Magoos to get off their butts.

> The USA is neither 'stomping' nor 'dictating terms' to Ukraine.  Because of

Some americans are trying. Magoos spent months denying supplies to 
Ukraine.

> In the end, Ukraine will end up losing some territory.  What price Crimea?

A lot depends on Putin's remaining lifespan. Once he is gone the 
next tsar can abandon the war. How well Ukraine kills Russians can 
shorten his lifespan.

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#660061

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-02 22:52 -0500
Message-ID<84nenjl48nolbst1fihp80tka4foepo1nk@4ax.com>
In reply to#660050
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:43:25 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:56:17 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> I object to telling Ukraine what they will do. That is what
>>> Chamberlain did to Czechoslovakia.
>> 
>> That's a bogus argument I won't let you get away with.  What Chamberlain did was
>> to give the aggressor what he wanted - the very opposite of what we're doing
>> now.
>
>And some are demanding that Ukraine abandon whatever Putin wants 
>or weapon deliveries stop.

Those are in a tiny minority.

>> But Ukraine HAS been consulted, continually.  Zelensky is forever on the move in
>> western capitals cultivating support for a war Ukraine wants very much to
>
>American politicians are all over the map. It was months for House 
>Magoos to get off their butts.

Generally they overwhelmingly support Ukraine.  The House dragged it's feet in a
failed attempt to cut overall spending.

>> The USA is neither 'stomping' nor 'dictating terms' to Ukraine.  Because of
>
>Some americans are trying. Magoos spent months denying supplies to 
>Ukraine.

But they seem to have become convinced since that Ukraine must not fall, or
Taiwan, and then the entire Pacific, will become at risk.  Border expansion by
military means must be banned globally.

>> In the end, Ukraine will end up losing some territory.  What price Crimea?
>
>A lot depends on Putin's remaining lifespan. Once he is gone the 
>next tsar can abandon the war. How well Ukraine kills Russians can 
>shorten his lifespan.

True, dat.

Putin's legacy will include:  The doubling of NATO's border with Russia, the
destruction of Russia's weapons stockpile as well as the reputation and
therefore sales of weapons, the loss of trust any other countries might have in
the word of the Kremlin.

NP:  Steve Earle - Copperhead Road
-- 
Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did.  Get over it.

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#660008

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-01-01 15:05 +0000
Message-ID<82a6d87b0acff451fb4fe27ff6543093@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#660001
Chaps are too stupid to know when they are licked.

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