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| Started by | clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) |
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| First post | 2024-06-21 20:04 +0000 |
| Last post | 2024-06-24 19:52 -0700 |
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The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2024-06-21 20:04 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-06-21 22:36 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2024-06-21 21:07 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-22 14:21 +0300
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2024-06-23 02:26 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-23 13:10 +0300
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Joda Muromtsov Hui <omodo@tr.ru> - 2024-06-23 14:39 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2024-06-21 21:13 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-06-22 11:26 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-22 11:50 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-22 07:54 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-22 07:57 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-22 08:12 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-06-23 10:48 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-23 07:25 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2024-06-23 02:21 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2024-06-21 22:10 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Darrell Wojewódzki <eee@jdg.pl> - 2024-06-21 22:33 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2024-06-21 23:00 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-21 18:10 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2024-06-22 03:02 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-22 14:26 +0300
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-06-22 11:26 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-22 07:52 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-22 07:53 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-06-22 18:11 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-06-23 10:48 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-23 13:14 +0300
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-23 12:21 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-06-23 13:46 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2024-06-23 02:27 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-06-23 10:48 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2024-06-23 03:01 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-23 13:18 +0300
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-06-22 14:59 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-22 15:11 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2024-06-23 02:54 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2024-06-22 23:13 -0500
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-23 07:48 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-06-23 10:48 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-23 10:55 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2024-06-24 22:57 -0500
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-25 07:16 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Stuart Balboni <nioo@altta.it> - 2024-06-25 05:25 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-06-25 08:49 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-25 10:39 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-25 13:05 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-06-26 09:20 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-06-26 09:24 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-06-26 09:43 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-26 12:50 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-07-04 21:29 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-07-04 21:51 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-04 13:04 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-07-05 21:00 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-05 17:53 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-07-06 21:56 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 19:27 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-07-07 12:39 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 13:01 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-07-08 10:57 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-08 13:41 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-07-10 17:43 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-10 12:58 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Leolin Balakirev <vnl@lilleoio.ru> - 2024-07-05 09:01 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. bertietaylor @novabbs.com (bertietaylor) - 2024-07-06 00:15 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-07-06 07:04 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@wanadou.fr> - 2024-07-06 11:41 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 12:37 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-07-07 10:19 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@wanadou.fr> - 2024-07-07 11:51 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-07-07 21:23 +0200
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. bertietaylor @novabbs.com (bertietaylor) - 2024-07-06 11:48 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-23 07:17 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Rollie Kokoris Lao <roi@rsok.gr> - 2024-06-23 14:51 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-23 12:06 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-26 10:42 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-27 21:23 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-28 09:45 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-28 10:03 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-30 09:07 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-06-30 09:25 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. film.art@gmail.com (JanPB) - 2024-06-24 19:58 +0000
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-24 18:05 -0700
Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-24 19:52 -0700
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-30 09:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <668182C6.33A0@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #654539 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > Now, I know mosts of yous have no idea what 'the unified field theory' > > > > IS, or what it even looks like... > > > > > > > > I saw it on a blackboard. > > > > > > > > It's a transporter. > > > > > > > > Instead of shooting > > > > a rocket to the Moon.. > > > > you just transport > > > > the rocket to the Moon. > > > > > > > > Simply put, > > > > > > > > you dematerialize the rocket here, and > > > > you materialize it on the Moon. > > > > > > > > That is what Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory is all about. > > > > > > > > More Simply put, it gets you from here to there. > > > > > > On July 22, 1943, Albert Einstein was in Philadelphia giving testimony in the trial of Gerhart Eisler, on that same date July 22, 1943 the "Philadelphia Experiment," > > > where a ship from Philadelphis teleported to Norfolk , Virginia. Coincidence???? > > > > > > Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory is all about...telepotation. > > > > > > I mean, Albert Einstein wrote a teleportation article in Scientific American on April 1950 before it got out about the "Philadelphia Experiment". > > > > > > If everybody had a portable teleport machine...the world would be upside down. > > > > > > "Beam me one of those girls to my bedroom before my wife gets home...throw in an ounce of weed Pablo Escarbor." > > > > > > I guess a teleport machine is worst than an atomic bomb. > > > > > > I guess Albert Einstein was thinking of teleporting to Mars before everybody blows themselves up with his atomic bombs. > > > > > > > Of course you need a sender and a receiver 'telportation machines', > > otherwise you can get stuck somewhere in the Twilight Zone. > > > > (I know in China they are already expermenting with Dr. Albert > > Einstein's Unified Field Theory Teleportation Machine) > > > > I can teleport myself anywhere in the world? Is your wife home now? > > > > Amazon Teleporting Shipping Same Second Delivery! (i haven't even > > finished typing my order and it's already delivered!)autocomplete? > > > > Is your wife home now? I cannot think of anywhere in the world I wanna > > be but fucking your wife. > > > > That can explain why Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory > > Teleportation Machine was...shelved by him. > > Here is how-to-build-a-teleportation-machine-teleportation based on Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory Teleportation Machine: > https://quantumfrontiers.com/2012/09/17/how-to-build-a-teleportation-machine-teleportation-protocol/ > > Is China thinking about a really fast food chineese pork fried rice delivery service? no tickee no foodie. > > Why would China need a Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory Teleportation Machine for???? > > I mean, i do have laundry.. I mean, everyone can teleport out of jail. or you can go to Paris without a passport... no borders I mean, there is no life on other planets to teleport to. You can teleport to inside a bank vault and teleport back home with all the money. Teleport machines would be ALL in the wrong hands. In otherwords, it's all science fiction. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-30 09:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <66818705.1F9C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #654499 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Now, I know mosts of yous have no idea what 'the unified field theory' > IS, or what it even looks like... > > I saw it on a blackboard. > > It's a transporter. > > Instead of shooting > a rocket to the Moon.. > you just transport > the rocket to the Moon. > > Simply put, > > you dematerialize the rocket here, and > you materialize it on the Moon. > > That is what Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory is all about. > > More Simply put, it gets you from here to there. Albert Einstein realized...'the unified field theory' does not agree with Nature. Albert Einstein realized...'the unified field theory' has no 'reality'. The math doesn't exist. As Jan B would say...get another hobby. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | film.art@gmail.com (JanPB) |
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| Date | 2024-06-24 19:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <607327dc47c5e4a30def5234bbc92e59@www.novabbs.com> |
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LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: > The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. GR is a non-quantum theory. Why is this such a revelation for you? > A. General relativity explains Mercury's anomalous perihelion advance > and the bending of light by treating gravity as electromagnetic using > electromagnetic formulas and the assumption of the speed of light for > the speed of gravity. No, this is false. Or, more precisely, it's technical word salad. > B. The unified field theory failed to unify electromagnetism and > gravity. ["Then, in the early part of the 20th century, Albert Einstein > developed general relativity, a field theory of gravitation. Later, > Einstein and others attempted to construct a unified field theory in > which electromagnetism and gravity would emerge as different aspects of > a single fundamental field. They failed, and to this day gravity > remains > beyond attempts at a unified field theory."- Britannica] Yes, and also an old hat. > C. Therefore, general relativity fails to explain Mercury's perihelion > advance and the bending of light. Not even wrong. Perhaps you should consider a different hobby. -- Jan
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-24 18:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <Q8ydnSjWWsIhiuf7nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #654451 |
On 06/24/2024 12:58 PM, JanPB wrote: > LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: > >> The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. > > GR is a non-quantum theory. Why is this such a revelation for you? > >> A. General relativity explains Mercury's anomalous perihelion advance >> and the bending of light by treating gravity as electromagnetic using >> electromagnetic formulas and the assumption of the speed of light for >> the speed of gravity. > > No, this is false. Or, more precisely, it's technical word salad. > >> B. The unified field theory failed to unify electromagnetism and >> gravity. ["Then, in the early part of the 20th century, Albert Einstein >> developed general relativity, a field theory of gravitation. Later, >> Einstein and others attempted to construct a unified field theory in >> which electromagnetism and gravity would emerge as different aspects of >> a single fundamental field. They failed, and to this day gravity >> remains >> beyond attempts at a unified field theory."- Britannica] > > Yes, and also an old hat. > >> C. Therefore, general relativity fails to explain Mercury's perihelion >> advance and the bending of light. > > Not even wrong. Perhaps you should consider a different hobby. > > -- > Jan GR has "material points". https://d-meeus.be/physique/Maxwell-Einstein-en.html What you get is "space contraction" and "space frames" or "Rahme-Raumen und Raume-Rahmen" helping explain that in the atomic model the material bodies are mostly space and so the space they contain moves through the space they are in, in the frames in the frames in the frames. Einstein very much demands and expects a differential system free of singularities and particularly discontinuities in what he describes as "the time" in "Out of My Later Years". Also he has "Relativity" as always being both General and Special, and, you know, that the Special is "spacial" instead of "spatial", and local, and that GR governs SR not the other way around. Or, you know, what Einstein said, that "Relativity, the theory", is. You know there's a consideration in the optical that lensing has a complement after focus helping also explain the contributions to imaging, in terms of the spherical horizon, and that optical light is special. Special, you know, where mass/energy equivalency comes off down the kinetic not "e = mc^2 defining itself", Special in the General, not the other way around.
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-24 19:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <jMqdnQfDPotdref7nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #654453 |
On 06/24/2024 06:05 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 06/24/2024 12:58 PM, JanPB wrote: >> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >> >>> The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails. >> >> GR is a non-quantum theory. Why is this such a revelation for you? >> >>> A. General relativity explains Mercury's anomalous perihelion advance >>> and the bending of light by treating gravity as electromagnetic using >>> electromagnetic formulas and the assumption of the speed of light for >>> the speed of gravity. >> >> No, this is false. Or, more precisely, it's technical word salad. >> >>> B. The unified field theory failed to unify electromagnetism and >>> gravity. ["Then, in the early part of the 20th century, Albert Einstein >>> developed general relativity, a field theory of gravitation. Later, >>> Einstein and others attempted to construct a unified field theory in >>> which electromagnetism and gravity would emerge as different aspects of >>> a single fundamental field. They failed, and to this day gravity >>> remains >>> beyond attempts at a unified field theory."- Britannica] >> >> Yes, and also an old hat. >> >>> C. Therefore, general relativity fails to explain Mercury's perihelion >>> advance and the bending of light. >> >> Not even wrong. Perhaps you should consider a different hobby. >> >> -- >> Jan > > GR has "material points". > > https://d-meeus.be/physique/Maxwell-Einstein-en.html > > > What you get is "space contraction" and "space frames" > or "Rahme-Raumen und Raume-Rahmen" helping explain that > in the atomic model the material bodies are mostly space > and so the space they contain moves through the space > they are in, in the frames in the frames in the frames. > > Einstein very much demands and expects a differential > system free of singularities and particularly discontinuities > in what he describes as "the time" in "Out of My Later Years". > > Also he has "Relativity" as always being both General and Special, > and, you know, that the Special is "spacial" instead of "spatial", > and local, and that GR governs SR not the other way around. > > Or, you know, what Einstein said, that "Relativity, the theory", is. > > > You know there's a consideration in the optical that > lensing has a complement after focus helping also explain > the contributions to imaging, in terms of the spherical > horizon, and that optical light is special. > > Special, you know, where mass/energy equivalency comes off > down the kinetic not "e = mc^2 defining itself", Special > in the General, not the other way around. > > > Theory is really simplified when all you're doing is designing digital electronic circuits, it's much simplified to not even have to care except for SR, and the large amount of computing that goes into space planning and connection finding, in what's called the synthesis of high-level descriptions of pinouts to logic and standard logic and at the scales where it matters that there's only enough room to have a sub-field of a corner of an overall theory, that being its world, that SR has a place significant enough that even things are kept simplified in the "standard standard units" just to accommodate the digital enterprise. That said, everybody knows a gamma ray can flip a bit.
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