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[SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-29 13:25 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Mee'k Pagano Selvaggio <eaoa@eeso.it> - 2024-03-29 14:16 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-03-30 13:22 +0100
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-30 13:15 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-30 13:31 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-03-31 14:08 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-31 12:23 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-03-31 09:33 -0400
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-31 16:06 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-31 14:54 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Gaylord Chalyh Turubanov <nynro@raanl.ru> - 2024-03-31 15:22 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-02 09:25 -0400
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Mitchel Shirinkin Balahowski <hh@hmhec.ru> - 2024-04-02 14:18 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Ren Christakos Haritopoulos <ana@lror.gr> - 2024-04-02 14:33 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-01 22:00 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-01 20:23 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-02 14:50 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 13:25 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-03 22:26 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-03 23:12 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-04 00:08 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-03 19:28 -0700
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-05 19:39 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 13:29 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 13:48 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Python <python@org.invalid> - 2024-04-02 18:39 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-02 21:10 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Python <python@org.invalid> - 2024-04-02 19:18 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 20:59 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Python <python@org.invalid> - 2024-04-02 21:39 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-03 07:15 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Python <python@org.invalid> - 2024-04-03 05:39 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-03 08:31 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Python <python@org.invalid> - 2024-04-03 21:01 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-04 06:56 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Sammie Pásztor Buzás <ers@ppjstt.hu> - 2024-04-04 20:19 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-31 12:30 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-03-31 09:36 -0400
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-31 16:05 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-31 15:06 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-31 17:33 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-31 21:13 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-01 10:26 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-01 11:50 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-01 16:54 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-02 11:23 -0400
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-04-01 12:50 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-01 16:55 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-02 11:21 -0400
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-02 18:33 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-01 22:00 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-01 20:03 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-02 15:03 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-02 11:24 -0400
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-31 15:59 +0200
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 00:50 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 01:14 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-01 20:11 -0700
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 09:39 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 12:08 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 12:36 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? film.art@gmail.com (JanPB) - 2024-04-02 19:19 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 20:49 +0000
Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-02 15:46 -0700
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| From | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> |
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| Date | 2024-04-04 00:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <Wq0nmrAcnNJBzDHwHIhK4GNi_Us@jntp> |
| In reply to | #652668 |
Le 03/04/2024 à 23:12, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> W dniu 03.04.2024 o 22:26, Paul B. Andersen pisze:
>
>> Yes, we know that no speed of massive objects or particles
>> can exceed c. So what?
The notion of simultaneity being defined by the coincident existence of
all events occurring
at the same time ; or again, being characterized by the set of all
physical phenomena
taking place at the same time; we should be able, at least considering all
the components
fixed being in a given inertial system, to speak of absolute simultaneity,
of synchronization
cosmic, or common calendar -- these terms then being likely to acquire
real significance
physical tion -- if we could, without it varying, transpose the universal
simultaneity specific to a
particular observer to all the other inertial observers present in this
same frame of reference.
It would be enough to find any signal, or any action, by which a body
A could
interact instantly with a body B, that is to say by means of information
propagating infinitely
quickly, so that this notion of absolute simultaneity can be
experimentally proven.
We could then say that the action induced by body A was instantly
transmitted to body B, or
that the action produced by body A was carried out at the same time as its
detection by body B, and that it
exists, de facto, between A and B, a sort of reciprocal and absolute
simultaneity.
We could also imagine a round trip signal carried out over the
distance separating A from B, and carried out at
means of infinitely rapid information, such that the departure and return
times of
information is simultaneous. It would easily come to mind that if the two
watches A and B are
well tuned, the notion of general coexistence of the things of the
universe in perfect simultaneity would be
thus demonstrated.
However, this proof does not exist.
We know that a body can act on another body at a distance, for
example in the form of a wave.
electromagnetic, in the form of a mechanical shock transmitted along a
rigid rod, or under the
form of a gravitational interaction, but we have never found a signal that
is infinitely fast,
or remote action that is instantaneous. It rather seems, in fact, that
there exists, in nature, a kind
impassable speed limit, which we will find in any Galilean reference frame
considered, and which will
extend to all particles and all properties of physics.
>
> So, even your idiot guru had to finally abandon
> this nonsense in his GR shit.
The three distinct notions of classical observable speed (Vo), apparent
speed (Vapp) and real speeds (Vr) should not be confused.
No observable speed can exceed c, while the other two types offer no
limits.
R.H.
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-04-03 19:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <sOGdnUde-vTUjZP7nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #652669 |
On 04/03/2024 05:08 PM, Richard Hachel wrote: > Le 03/04/2024 à 23:12, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >> W dniu 03.04.2024 o 22:26, Paul B. Andersen pisze: >> >>> Yes, we know that no speed of massive objects or particles >>> can exceed c. So what? > > The notion of simultaneity being defined by the coincident existence of > all events occurring > at the same time ; or again, being characterized by the set of all > physical phenomena > taking place at the same time; we should be able, at least considering > all the components > fixed being in a given inertial system, to speak of absolute > simultaneity, of synchronization > cosmic, or common calendar -- these terms then being likely to acquire > real significance > physical tion -- if we could, without it varying, transpose the > universal simultaneity specific to a > particular observer to all the other inertial observers present in this > same frame of reference. > It would be enough to find any signal, or any action, by which a > body A could > interact instantly with a body B, that is to say by means of information > propagating infinitely > quickly, so that this notion of absolute simultaneity can be > experimentally proven. > We could then say that the action induced by body A was instantly > transmitted to body B, or > that the action produced by body A was carried out at the same time as > its detection by body B, and that it > exists, de facto, between A and B, a sort of reciprocal and absolute > simultaneity. > We could also imagine a round trip signal carried out over the > distance separating A from B, and carried out at > means of infinitely rapid information, such that the departure and > return times of > information is simultaneous. It would easily come to mind that if the > two watches A and B are > well tuned, the notion of general coexistence of the things of the > universe in perfect simultaneity would be > thus demonstrated. > However, this proof does not exist. > We know that a body can act on another body at a distance, for > example in the form of a wave. > electromagnetic, in the form of a mechanical shock transmitted along a > rigid rod, or under the > form of a gravitational interaction, but we have never found a signal > that is infinitely fast, > or remote action that is instantaneous. It rather seems, in fact, that > there exists, in nature, a kind > impassable speed limit, which we will find in any Galilean reference > frame considered, and which will > extend to all particles and all properties of physics. > >> >> So, even your idiot guru had to finally abandon >> this nonsense in his GR shit. > > The three distinct notions of classical observable speed (Vo), apparent > speed (Vapp) and real speeds (Vr) should not be confused. > > No observable speed can exceed c, while the other two types offer no > limits. > > R.H. So if a mass converted entirely to energy it wouldn't move at all?
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| From | "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> |
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| Date | 2024-04-05 19:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uupcsp$5nv1$1@i2pn2.org> |
| In reply to | #652669 |
Den 04.04.2024 02:08, skrev Richard Hachel: > Le 03/04/2024 à 23:12, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >> W dniu 03.04.2024 o 22:26, Paul B. Andersen pisze: >> >>> Yes, we know that no speed of massive objects or particles >>> can exceed c. So what? The following seems to be a response to my statement above. > > The notion of simultaneity being defined by the coincident existence of > all events occurring > at the same time ; or again, being characterized by the set of all > physical phenomena > taking place at the same time; we should be able, at least considering > all the components > fixed being in a given inertial system, to speak of absolute > simultaneity, of synchronization > cosmic, or common calendar -- these terms then being likely to acquire > real significance > physical tion -- if we could, without it varying, transpose the > universal simultaneity specific to a > particular observer to all the other inertial observers present in this > same frame of reference. > It would be enough to find any signal, or any action, by which a > body A could > interact instantly with a body B, that is to say by means of information > propagating infinitely > quickly, so that this notion of absolute simultaneity can be > experimentally proven. > We could then say that the action induced by body A was instantly > transmitted to body B, or > that the action produced by body A was carried out at the same time as > its detection by body B, and that it > exists, de facto, between A and B, a sort of reciprocal and absolute > simultaneity. > We could also imagine a round trip signal carried out over the > distance separating A from B, and carried out at > means of infinitely rapid information, such that the departure and > return times of > information is simultaneous. It would easily come to mind that if the > two watches A and B are > well tuned, the notion of general coexistence of the things of the > universe in perfect simultaneity would be > thus demonstrated. > However, this proof does not exist. What's your point with using so many words to state the bleeding obvious? Of course there is no such thing as "absolute simultaneity". > We know that a body can act on another body at a distance, for > example in the form of a wave. > electromagnetic, in the form of a mechanical shock transmitted along a > rigid rod, or under the > form of a gravitational interaction, but we have never found a signal > that is infinitely fast, > or remote action that is instantaneous. It rather seems, in fact, that > there exists, in nature, a kind > impassable speed limit, which we will find in any Galilean reference > frame considered, and which will > extend to all particles and all properties of physics. So you confirm my statement quoted above above. But you never addressed what you claimed was impossible in my posting. Try again? 03.04.2024 Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > Den 02.04.2024 15:25, skrev Richard Hachel: >> Le 02/04/2024 à 14:48, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit : >>> >>> Let's stay in the real world. >>> >>> The only objects moving at "relativistic speeds" we >>> can visually observe, are astronomical objects, like >>> the matter in the jets from some galaxies (from their >>> central black hole). >>> >>> The only motion we can visually observe, is transverse motion. >>> >>> So if the jet is coming right at us, we will see the matter >>> at exactly the same point at the centre of the galaxy, the apparent speed of the matter is zero. >>> >>> But when it is approaching you at an angle, you can measure the >>> angular velocity, and when the distance is known, you can calculate >>> the apparent transverse velocity, which indeed may be higher than c. >> >> No. It's impossible. > > There are _many_ "superluminal" jets where the matter in > the jet appear to have a speed faster than c. > Please explain why you wrote: "No. It's impossible." -- Paul https://paulba.no/
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| From | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> |
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| Date | 2024-04-02 13:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pMR3yoB3v-lzkeyRL_ACdkY_xts@jntp> |
| In reply to | #652625 |
Le 02/04/2024 à 14:48, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit : > Den 01.04.2024 22:23, skrev Richard Hachel: > http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys200/lectures/superlum/m87jet_hst_big.jpg That's what I say. But here the jet is not transversal. Well, yes, Vapp > c R.H.
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| From | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> |
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| Date | 2024-04-02 13:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PRfqJi3mjsXTEUpZ6IbdyuusdIk@jntp> |
| In reply to | #652625 |
Le 02/04/2024 à 14:48, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit : > The "basic effect" is simple: Paul, you're talking nonsense. The apparent speed of an object crossing my line of sight, is like Vapp=Vo/(1+cosµ.Vo/c) where µ is the angle that the direction of the object makes, and the direction of my aim. If this object moves towards me, then cosµ=-1. As Jean-Pierre Python rightly says, who for once is not mistaken, we obtain v_app=v/(1-v/c) In Hachel writing: Vapp=Vo/(1-Vo/c) We want to know at what speed the object must move so that its apparent displacement is equal to or greater than c. Vo=Vapp/(1+Vapp/c) If Vapp=c or more, Vo>c/2 R.H.
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| From | Python <python@org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-04-02 18:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <O4TSpFOBl03hgmY07rbNXfJtKaQ@jntp> |
| In reply to | #652630 |
Le 02/04/2024 à 15:48, Richard Hachel a écrit : > Le 02/04/2024 à 14:48, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit : >> The "basic effect" is simple: > > Paul, you're talking nonsense. > > The apparent speed of an object crossing my line of sight, > is like Vapp=Vo/(1+cosµ.Vo/c) where µ is the angle that the direction of the > object makes, and the direction of my aim. > > If this object moves towards me, then cosµ=-1. > > As Jean-Pierre Python rightly says, who for once is not mistaken, we obtain > v_app=v/(1-v/c) What I addressed in my article, where the object is moving along the line of sight, (either receeding or approaching) is NOT what Paul is talking about. You've still not properly read what he wrote. You are an incurable hypocrite, Richard. And a pathological liar.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-04-02 21:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <17c28c46aca77014$1736121$160734$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #652643 |
W dniu 02.04.2024 o 20:39, Python pisze: > You are an incurable hypocrite, Richard. > > And a pathological liar. All the worshippers of your idiot guru are. BTW, have you already learnt what a function is?
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| From | Python <python@org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-04-02 19:18 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #652644 |
Le 02/04/2024 à 21:10, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : > W dniu 02.04.2024 o 20:39, Python pisze: > >> You are an incurable hypocrite, Richard. >> >> And a pathological liar. > All the worshippers of your idiot guru are. > BTW, have you already learnt what a function is? You're not going well these days, Maciej, are you? Sad.
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| From | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> |
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| Date | 2024-04-02 20:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <QIG8NObVQY1QNlBRWRZX97tX_4Q@jntp> |
| In reply to | #652644 |
Le 02/04/2024 à 21:10, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : > W dniu 02.04.2024 o 20:39, Python pisze: > >> You are an incurable hypocrite, Richard. >> >> And a pathological liar. > All the worshippers of your idiot guru are. > BTW, have you already learnt what a function is? I pay no attention to the criticisms of Jean-Pierre Python, he is known on physics forums for being a clown. He doesn't understand anything, and gets mixed up on the problems of special relativity that he thinks he has mastered and which he doesn't master at all. He nevertheless believes himself to be the world's best critic in physical and mathematical science. The good doctor Hachel (that's me) has already told him a hundred times to reread correctly what is written, and to consider that there is no fault in what is said. But he persists in finding faults and defending ridiculous points of view. He has stubbornly wanted to prove, for years, that Doctor Hachel is an idiot on all points (not only in special relativity), but without ever succeeding. It's a shame to see him wasting time unnecessarily like this. But you can't change a man. R.H.
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| From | Python <python@org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-04-02 21:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XweOY2twefLeBXX0KDm4Y1TJe0o@jntp> |
| In reply to | #652650 |
Le 02/04/2024 à 22:59, Richard Hachel a écrit : > Le 02/04/2024 à 21:10, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >> W dniu 02.04.2024 o 20:39, Python pisze: >> >>> You are an incurable hypocrite, Richard. >>> >>> And a pathological liar. >> All the worshippers of your idiot guru are. >> BTW, have you already learnt what a function is? > > I pay no attention to the criticisms of Jean-Pierre Python, he is known on > physics forums for being a clown. > He doesn't understand anything, and gets mixed up on the problems of special > relativity that he thinks he has mastered and which he doesn't master at all. He > nevertheless believes himself to be the world's best critic in physical and > mathematical science. Absolutely not, I have not the kind of delusion of grandeur you have. You are the one with absolutely no education in science and no will to have one and pretending himself to be "the best relativist physicist" in the World. Which is pathetic given how your claims contradict the principle of Relativity in an obvious way, as it has been shown numerous times. Any moderately scientificaly educated person can point out your obvious mistakes. As a matter of fact of lot did. > The good doctor Hachel (that's me) has already told him a hundred times to > reread correctly what is written, and to consider that there is no fault in what > is said. > But he persists in finding faults and defending ridiculous points of view. > He has stubbornly wanted to prove, for years, that Doctor Hachel is an idiot on > all points (not only in special relativity), but without ever succeeding. You are indeed an pathological liar, idiot, liar and deluded mythomaniac in numerous fields. Fact is that your claims can be proven contradictory and absurd, fact is that they have been. At the point to consider Wozniak as an ally in your egomaniac fight, which is utterly ridiculous.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-04-03 07:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <17c2ad4df6fedd99$1736433$160734$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #652651 |
W dniu 02.04.2024 o 23:39, Python pisze: > Le 02/04/2024 à 22:59, Richard Hachel a écrit : >> Le 02/04/2024 à 21:10, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >>> W dniu 02.04.2024 o 20:39, Python pisze: >>> >>>> You are an incurable hypocrite, Richard. >>>> >>>> And a pathological liar. >>> All the worshippers of your idiot guru are. >>> BTW, have you already learnt what a function is? >> >> I pay no attention to the criticisms of Jean-Pierre Python, he is >> known on physics forums for being a clown. >> He doesn't understand anything, and gets mixed up on the problems of >> special relativity that he thinks he has mastered and which he doesn't >> master at all. He nevertheless believes himself to be the world's best >> critic in physical and mathematical science. > > Absolutely not, I have not the kind of delusion of grandeur you have. > > You are the one with absolutely no education in science and no will to Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again, and trying again to pretend he knows something. Tell me, poor stinker, have you already learnt what a function is? Is "for any element of the domain" clause still confusing you?
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| From | Python <python@org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-04-03 05:39 +0000 |
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Le 03/04/2024 à 07:15, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : > W dniu 02.04.2024 o 23:39, Python pisze: >> Le 02/04/2024 à 22:59, Richard Hachel a écrit : >>> Le 02/04/2024 à 21:10, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >>>> W dniu 02.04.2024 o 20:39, Python pisze: >>>> >>>>> You are an incurable hypocrite, Richard. >>>>> >>>>> And a pathological liar. >>>> All the worshippers of your idiot guru are. >>>> BTW, have you already learnt what a function is? >>> >>> I pay no attention to the criticisms of Jean-Pierre Python, he is >>> known on physics forums for being a clown. >>> He doesn't understand anything, and gets mixed up on the problems of >>> special relativity that he thinks he has mastered and which he doesn't >>> master at all. He nevertheless believes himself to be the world's best >>> critic in physical and mathematical science. >> >> Absolutely not, I have not the kind of delusion of grandeur you have. >> >> You are the one with absolutely no education in science and no will to > > Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again, > and trying again to pretend he knows something. > Tell me, poor stinker, have you already learnt > what a function is? Is "for any element of > the domain" clause still confusing you? https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_(math%C3%A9matiques) "Le terme est concurrencé par celui de fonction, bien que celui-ci désigne parfois plus spécifiquement les applications dont le but est un ensemble de nombres et parfois, au contraire, englobe plus largement les relations pour lesquelles chaque élément de l'ensemble de départ est relié à au plus un élément de l'ensemble d'arrivée." Now shut the fuck up, idiot...
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-04-03 08:31 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <17c2b172795cfb95$1337302$165553$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #652657 |
W dniu 03.04.2024 o 07:39, Python pisze: > Le 03/04/2024 à 07:15, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >> W dniu 02.04.2024 o 23:39, Python pisze: >>> Le 02/04/2024 à 22:59, Richard Hachel a écrit : >>>> Le 02/04/2024 à 21:10, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >>>>> W dniu 02.04.2024 o 20:39, Python pisze: >>>>> >>>>>> You are an incurable hypocrite, Richard. >>>>>> >>>>>> And a pathological liar. >>>>> All the worshippers of your idiot guru are. >>>>> BTW, have you already learnt what a function is? >>>> >>>> I pay no attention to the criticisms of Jean-Pierre Python, he is >>>> known on physics forums for being a clown. >>>> He doesn't understand anything, and gets mixed up on the problems of >>>> special relativity that he thinks he has mastered and which he >>>> doesn't master at all. He nevertheless believes himself to be the >>>> world's best critic in physical and mathematical science. >>> >>> Absolutely not, I have not the kind of delusion of grandeur you have. >>> >>> You are the one with absolutely no education in science and no will to >> >> Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again, >> and trying again to pretend he knows something. >> Tell me, poor stinker, have you already learnt >> what a function is? Is "for any element of >> the domain" clause still confusing you? > > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_(math%C3%A9matiques) > > "Le terme est concurrencé par celui de fonction, bien que celui-ci > désigne parfois plus spécifiquement les applications dont le but est un > ensemble de nombres et parfois, au contraire, englobe plus largement les > relations pour lesquelles chaque élément de l'ensemble de départ est > relié à au plus un élément de l'ensemble d'arrivée." > > Now shut the fuck up, idiot... Still confused; you're such an idiot. Well, under the link you provided - click blue "fonction" word and read: En mathématiques, une fonction permet de définir un résultat (le plus souvent numérique) pour chaque élément d’un ensemble appelé domaine. Of course, whatever you'll read, being stupid is not curable.
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| From | Python <python@org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-04-03 21:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <KPJf3bDJM6eF5BjWsUmGx9i_BWk@jntp> |
| In reply to | #652662 |
Le 03/04/2024 à 08:31, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> W dniu 03.04.2024 o 07:39, Python pisze:
>> Le 03/04/2024 à 07:15, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>> W dniu 02.04.2024 o 23:39, Python pisze:
>>>> Le 02/04/2024 à 22:59, Richard Hachel a écrit :
>>>>> Le 02/04/2024 à 21:10, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>>>> W dniu 02.04.2024 o 20:39, Python pisze:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are an incurable hypocrite, Richard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And a pathological liar.
>>>>>> All the worshippers of your idiot guru are.
>>>>>> BTW, have you already learnt what a function is?
>>>>>
>>>>> I pay no attention to the criticisms of Jean-Pierre Python, he is
>>>>> known on physics forums for being a clown.
>>>>> He doesn't understand anything, and gets mixed up on the problems of
>>>>> special relativity that he thinks he has mastered and which he
>>>>> doesn't master at all. He nevertheless believes himself to be the
>>>>> world's best critic in physical and mathematical science.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely not, I have not the kind of delusion of grandeur you have.
>>>>
>>>> You are the one with absolutely no education in science and no will to
>>>
>>> Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,
>>> and trying again to pretend he knows something.
>>> Tell me, poor stinker, have you already learnt
>>> what a function is? Is "for any element of
>>> the domain" clause still confusing you?
>>
>> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_(math%C3%A9matiques)
>>
>> "Le terme est concurrencé par celui de fonction, bien que celui-ci
>> désigne parfois plus spécifiquement les applications dont le but est un
>> ensemble de nombres et parfois, au contraire, englobe plus largement les
>> relations pour lesquelles chaque élément de l'ensemble de départ est
>> relié à au plus un élément de l'ensemble d'arrivée."
>>
>> Now shut the fuck up, idiot...
>
> Still confused; you're such an idiot.
> Well, under the link you provided -
> click blue "fonction" word and read:
"et parfois, au contraire ... est relié à au plus un élément "
You can't read French, can you Maciej? Do you need a translator?
> En mathématiques, une fonction permet de définir un résultat (le plus
> souvent numérique) pour chaque élément d’un ensemble appelé domaine.
>
> Of course, whatever you'll read, being
> stupid is not curable.
Oh dear... How come that one of "the better logicians Humanity ever had"
cannot grasp that a single world can have multiple definitions even among
a single community at a given time. Context is quite a too subtle concept
for you.
Fact is that "starting set" ("ensemble de départ") and domain ("domaine
de
definition") are, even today, not assumed to be identical in the French
educational system. You can whine as much as you want, it is a fact.
And it doesn't really matter, but you only focus on what does not matter,
aren't you Maciej? Because you are soooo confused about when things
matter.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-04-04 06:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <17c2fad2c78d7700$1337304$165553$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #652667 |
W dniu 03.04.2024 o 23:01, Python pisze:
> Fact is that "starting set" ("ensemble de départ") and domain ("domaine de
> definition") are, even today, not assumed to be identical in the French
> educational system. You can whine as much as you want, it is a fact.
Of course, the reason why you're confused
about the properties of a quite simple
English word "function", and making idiotic
statemennts about it - may be caused by
your French education, why not?
So, have you already learnt what a
"function" is? Still confused about
the clause "for any element of the domain"?
("domain", not "starting set", poor stinker).
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| From | Sammie Pásztor Buzás <ers@ppjstt.hu> |
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| Date | 2024-04-04 20:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uun211$24vhp$2@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #652673 |
Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> W dniu 03.04.2024 o 23:01, Python pisze:
>> Fact is that "starting set" ("ensemble de départ") and domain ("domaine
>> de definition") are, even today, not assumed to be identical in the
>> French educational system. You can whine as much as you want, it is a
>> fact.
>
> Of course, the reason why you're confused about the properties of a
> quite simple English word "function", and making idiotic statemennts
> about it - may be caused by your French education, why not?
> So, have you already learnt what a "function" is? Still confused about
> the clause "for any element of the domain"? ("domain", not "starting
> set", poor stinker).
so true indeed, my friend. Here you see the clear difference away from
capitalism, where communism is from the people to the people, and NOT to
some few motherfucker braindead autist capitalists (see bill gaytes)
wanting you dead with vaccines.
also, the Einstine wrong one more time, he hate the chinese, saying the eat
from the ground. lol
2024_𝗫𝗶𝗮𝗼𝗺𝗶_𝗦𝗨7_𝗠𝗮𝘅_𝗶𝗻-𝗱𝗲𝗽𝘁𝗵_𝗪𝗮𝗹𝗸𝗮𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱 https://youtu.be/7cdFz4zw79c
these stinking capitalists bombed Yugoslavia and destroyed ukrane.
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| From | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> |
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| Date | 2024-03-31 12:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <CxHSseT9vdBhZozAEq7z21QhBz4@jntp> |
| In reply to | #652573 |
Le 31/03/2024 à 14:07, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit : > Den 30.03.2024 14:31, skrev Richard Hachel: > Doctor Richard Hachel's theory is experimentally falsified. Can you show me a little fact of it. A very small. And I am silent, gentlemen. Even the Nobel Prize winner Alain Aspect says that I am right about the principle of non-locality, and the greatest mathematician in the world, Henri Poincaré, says that I am right when I write "There will therefore exist an impenetrable limit speed which will extend to all particles, bodies and laws of the universe. I simply combine the two. Scientists can't. Who has the best theory? Hachel, or all a clique of stupid physicists who don't want to do science, but the poor cock competition? R.H.
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-03-31 09:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <uuboss$1qajh$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #652575 |
On 3/31/2024 8:30 AM, Richard Hachel wrote: > > Who has the best theory? Hachel, or all a clique of stupid physicists > who don't want to do science, but the poor cock competition? > The best theory is the one which matches experimental results. Point out just one experiment which has results inconsistent with SR (within its domain) but agrees with "Dr." Richard Hachel's predictions. Just one.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-03-31 16:05 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <17c1de78c0e187f4$1334890$165553$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #652578 |
W dniu 31.03.2024 o 15:36, Volney pisze: > On 3/31/2024 8:30 AM, Richard Hachel wrote: >> >> Who has the best theory? Hachel, or all a clique of stupid physicists >> who don't want to do science, but the poor cock competition? >> > The best theory is the one which matches experimental results. > Point out just one experiment which has results inconsistent with SR And in the meantime in the real world - forbidden by your bunch of idiots "improper" GPS and TAI clocks keep measuring t'=t, just like all the serious clocks always did.
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| From | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> |
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| Date | 2024-03-31 15:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <8OWBMWp1kx3vmoaBVKXefl3wTCU@jntp> |
| In reply to | #652578 |
Le 31/03/2024 à 13:36, Volney a écrit : > On 3/31/2024 8:30 AM, Richard Hachel wrote: >> >> Who has the best theory? Hachel, or all a clique of stupid physicists >> who don't want to do science, but the poor cock competition? >> > The best theory is the one which matches experimental results. > Point out just one experiment which has results inconsistent with SR > (within its domain) but agrees with "Dr." Richard Hachel's predictions. > Just one. One will not be enough more than ten. I think you still don't understand the human problem. Look at what is happening today in Ukraine. Proof will not be enough to demonstrate that it is the Westerners who are seeking war with the Russians and not the other way around. You can put ten, twenty proofs, you won't succeed. We won't tell you, if you turn on your TV (in France): "Putin intervened in Ukraine, because he cannot do without Crimea as an essential war port, because it can no longer tolerate eight years of bombings and massacres of the Russian-speaking populations of Ukraine, the ban on speaking Russian, the presence of thermo-nuclear missiles on its border. No way. We tell you, minute after minute, on French television: "Putin is evil, he invaded Ukraine, he will then invade Europe, and he will eat the children in the incubators and rape all the little girls aged six years". That's what they tell you today on television. And you say to me: "Give us proof that what you say about the SR is true"? But you don't understand anything, Mac, you don't UNDERSTAND anything. I gave cases of proof. Usenet is your friend. R.H.
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