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| First post | 2023-12-04 23:33 -0800 |
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Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-04 23:33 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-05 00:39 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-05 00:46 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-05 19:07 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-06 01:02 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-12-06 14:07 -0500
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-06 21:18 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-07 10:56 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 00:38 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-08 10:38 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 00:41 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-09 08:42 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 11:41 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-09 10:48 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 19:19 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-09 20:25 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-10 00:48 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-10 12:18 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-10 18:37 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-10 22:11 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-11 09:13 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-11 17:56 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-11 20:41 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-12 00:55 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-13 00:52 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-13 18:36 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-13 20:50 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-14 09:26 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-14 18:26 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-13 22:14 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-14 00:49 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-14 00:02 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-14 00:26 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-14 09:06 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-14 18:26 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-14 18:25 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-14 18:25 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-14 19:37 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-14 21:09 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 18:47 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-11 17:56 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-07 00:58 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-07 23:44 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 12:11 -0500
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-05 19:03 -0600
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-05 09:28 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-05 09:52 -0800
Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-05 19:00 -0600
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-11 09:13 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6577432F.3C89@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #625533 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Physfitfreak wrote: > > > > On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Physfitfreak wrote: > > >> > > >> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Why should I do that? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> So was Sagan. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you > > >>>>> aware of that???? > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth > > >>> or humans..." > > >>> > > >>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Read Sagan books. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. > > >> > > >> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a > > >> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. > > > > > > > > > > > > An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." > > > > > > > > > Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." > > > > > > > > > Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and > > > and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. > > > > > > Turn on the TVeee > > > turn off the volume.. > > > and watch what you call > > > people on tv. > > > > > > After a while you won't know > > > what they are... > > > > > > > > > > Did Sagan say all that? > > "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" > --Carl Sagan Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself everytime he repeats it... "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was just a ...Rain Forest. The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-11 17:56 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ul87jr$2l9av$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #625548 |
On 12/11/2023 11:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > just a ...Rain Forest. > > The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. The oceans were there before forests appeared. Read Sagan. Or Asimov. Another of your fellow Brooklyn residents. Except this one didn't try that hard to suppress his accent.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-11 20:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6577E477.7C17@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #625568 |
Physfitfreak wrote: > > On 12/11/2023 11:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > > just a ...Rain Forest. > > > > The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. > > The oceans were there before forests appeared. Read Sagan. Or Asimov. > Another of your fellow Brooklyn residents. Except this one didn't try > that hard to suppress his accent. Asimov is a 'science fiction' writer, he writes 'fiction' books...science fiction. fake science. Sagan, Carl Sagan is an outer space guy...an 'astronomer'. an outer space guy wayyyyy out! ET. An astronomer observers out-ter-space. looking for fiction beings in outer space... Contact. ET. science fiction. i don't read fiction books. We already have to much fiction posing as science. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-12 00:55 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ul904h$2lk7j$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #625586 |
On 12/11/2023 10:41 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Physfitfreak wrote: >> >> On 12/11/2023 11:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was >>> just a ...Rain Forest. >>> >>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. >> >> The oceans were there before forests appeared. Read Sagan. Or Asimov. >> Another of your fellow Brooklyn residents. Except this one didn't try >> that hard to suppress his accent. > > > Asimov is a 'science fiction' writer, he writes 'fiction' > books...science fiction. > fake science. > > Sagan, Carl Sagan is an outer space guy...an 'astronomer'. > > an outer space guy > wayyyyy out! ET. > > An astronomer observers out-ter-space. looking for fiction beings in > outer space... > > Contact. ET. science fiction. > > > i don't read fiction books. > > > We already have to much fiction posing as science. > > Sagan has a science-fiction book also (the only one I haven't read). Remember, they made a movie based on it too. But both Sagan and Asimov have lots of science-for-laymen books too. Those are the ones you should read. They were both talented in explaining concepts to the laymen without (much) loss of accuracy.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-13 00:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <657970D2.4FD6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #625548 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Physfitfreak wrote: > > > > > > On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >> > > > >> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Why should I do that? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> So was Sagan. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you > > > >>>>> aware of that???? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth > > > >>> or humans..." > > > >>> > > > >>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Read Sagan books. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. > > > >> > > > >> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a > > > >> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." > > > > > > > > > > > > Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." > > > > > > > > > > > > Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and > > > > and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. > > > > > > > > Turn on the TVeee > > > > turn off the volume.. > > > > and watch what you call > > > > people on tv. > > > > > > > > After a while you won't know > > > > what they are... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did Sagan say all that? > > > > "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" > > --Carl Sagan > > Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself > everytime he repeats it... > > "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules > called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ > cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan > > Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > just a ...Rain Forest. > > The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. Now, all noise aside... while the rain forest was busy making a river to an ocean... you need fishes to fill the ocean. Trees make the ocean, and trees also make the fishes. The leaves that fall in the water turn into...fishes. From Leaves to Fishes. Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 Trust the science. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-13 18:36 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <uldili$1oa6$12@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #625665 |
On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>> >>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you >>>>>>>>> aware of that???? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth >>>>>>> or humans..." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Read Sagan books. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a >>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and >>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. >>>>> >>>>> Turn on the TVeee >>>>> turn off the volume.. >>>>> and watch what you call >>>>> people on tv. >>>>> >>>>> After a while you won't know >>>>> what they are... >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Did Sagan say all that? >>> >>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" >>> --Carl Sagan >> >> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself >> everytime he repeats it... >> >> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules >> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ >> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan >> >> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was >> just a ...Rain Forest. >> >> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. > > > Now, all noise aside... > > while the rain forest was busy > making a river > to an ocean... > > you need fishes > to fill the ocean. > > Trees make the ocean, and trees also > make the fishes. > > > The leaves > that fall in the water > turn into...fishes. > > From Leaves to Fishes. > > > Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 > > > Trust the science. > "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. But then art is art, if that's what it is.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-13 20:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <657A8983.7344@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #625715 |
Physfitfreak wrote: > > On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> > >>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you > >>>>>>>>> aware of that???? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth > >>>>>>> or humans..." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Read Sagan books. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a > >>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and > >>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. > >>>>> > >>>>> Turn on the TVeee > >>>>> turn off the volume.. > >>>>> and watch what you call > >>>>> people on tv. > >>>>> > >>>>> After a while you won't know > >>>>> what they are... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Did Sagan say all that? > >>> > >>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" > >>> --Carl Sagan > >> > >> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself > >> everytime he repeats it... > >> > >> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules > >> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ > >> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan > >> > >> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > >> just a ...Rain Forest. > >> > >> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. > > > > > > Now, all noise aside... > > > > while the rain forest was busy > > making a river > > to an ocean... > > > > you need fishes > > to fill the ocean. > > > > Trees make the ocean, and trees also > > make the fishes. > > > > > > The leaves > > that fall in the water > > turn into...fishes. > > > > From Leaves to Fishes. > > > > > > Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 > > > > > > Trust the science. > > > > "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. Seems like scientists celebrate their ignorance everyday! That's why they write science fictions books filled with aliens from outer space..lack of knowledge of aliens...so they just...make it up!! You people are living on a earth that turns in the dark. Will somebody put the light on already? IT'S FUCKING TOO DARK OUT THERE!!!! Science is on the edge of a void of darkness. I will bring the Light. Did you know people come from trees also? From a leaf, that drops on the ground. I am the light. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-14 09:26 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <657B3AB0.524F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #625731 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Physfitfreak wrote: > > > > On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > >> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you > > >>>>>>>>> aware of that???? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth > > >>>>>>> or humans..." > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Read Sagan books. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a > > >>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and > > >>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Turn on the TVeee > > >>>>> turn off the volume.. > > >>>>> and watch what you call > > >>>>> people on tv. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> After a while you won't know > > >>>>> what they are... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Did Sagan say all that? > > >>> > > >>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" > > >>> --Carl Sagan > > >> > > >> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself > > >> everytime he repeats it... > > >> > > >> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules > > >> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ > > >> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan > > >> > > >> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > > >> just a ...Rain Forest. > > >> > > >> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. > > > > > > > > > Now, all noise aside... > > > > > > while the rain forest was busy > > > making a river > > > to an ocean... > > > > > > you need fishes > > > to fill the ocean. > > > > > > Trees make the ocean, and trees also > > > make the fishes. > > > > > > > > > The leaves > > > that fall in the water > > > turn into...fishes. > > > > > > From Leaves to Fishes. > > > > > > > > > Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: > > > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 > > > > > > > > > Trust the science. > > > > > > > "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. > > Seems like scientists celebrate their ignorance everyday! > > That's why they write science fictions books filled with aliens from > outer space..lack of knowledge of aliens...so they just...make it up!! Science guys are disapointed there is no aliens or even life from outer space out there... so they make up them up with...science---FICTION! Where are the Mars canals???? made it up. Now the Pentagon jumped on the bandwagon and is making up UFO and aliens from other planets stories... but they just want more money because they got caught charging the government ten thousand dollars for a hammer and thirty thousand for a toilet seat! -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-14 18:26 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ulg6f3$2pdsm$3@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #625773 |
On 12/14/2023 11:26 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> Physfitfreak wrote: >>> >>> On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you >>>>>>>>>>>> aware of that???? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth >>>>>>>>>> or humans..." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Read Sagan books. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a >>>>>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and >>>>>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Turn on the TVeee >>>>>>>> turn off the volume.. >>>>>>>> and watch what you call >>>>>>>> people on tv. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After a while you won't know >>>>>>>> what they are... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did Sagan say all that? >>>>>> >>>>>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" >>>>>> --Carl Sagan >>>>> >>>>> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself >>>>> everytime he repeats it... >>>>> >>>>> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules >>>>> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ >>>>> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan >>>>> >>>>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was >>>>> just a ...Rain Forest. >>>>> >>>>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> Now, all noise aside... >>>> >>>> while the rain forest was busy >>>> making a river >>>> to an ocean... >>>> >>>> you need fishes >>>> to fill the ocean. >>>> >>>> Trees make the ocean, and trees also >>>> make the fishes. >>>> >>>> >>>> The leaves >>>> that fall in the water >>>> turn into...fishes. >>>> >>>> From Leaves to Fishes. >>>> >>>> >>>> Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: >>>> >>>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 >>>> >>>> >>>> Trust the science. >>>> >>> >>> "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. >> >> Seems like scientists celebrate their ignorance everyday! >> >> That's why they write science fictions books filled with aliens from >> outer space..lack of knowledge of aliens...so they just...make it up!! > > > Science guys are disapointed there is no aliens or even life from outer space out there... > > so they make up them up with...science---FICTION! > > Where are the Mars canals???? > > made it up. > > > Now the Pentagon jumped on the bandwagon and is making up UFO and > aliens from other planets stories... > but they just want more money > because they got caught charging > the government ten thousand dollars > for a hammer and thirty thousand for > a toilet seat! > > > > Sagan only has one science fiction book. The rest of stuff he wrote were nice description of past and presence. Read them!
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-13 22:14 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <657A9D36.7558@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #625715 |
Physfitfreak wrote: > > On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> > >>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you > >>>>>>>>> aware of that???? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth > >>>>>>> or humans..." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Read Sagan books. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a > >>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and > >>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. > >>>>> > >>>>> Turn on the TVeee > >>>>> turn off the volume.. > >>>>> and watch what you call > >>>>> people on tv. > >>>>> > >>>>> After a while you won't know > >>>>> what they are... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Did Sagan say all that? > >>> > >>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" > >>> --Carl Sagan > >> > >> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself > >> everytime he repeats it... > >> > >> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules > >> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ > >> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan > >> > >> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > >> just a ...Rain Forest. > >> > >> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. > > > > > > Now, all noise aside... > > > > while the rain forest was busy > > making a river > > to an ocean... > > > > you need fishes > > to fill the ocean. > > > > Trees make the ocean, and trees also > > make the fishes. > > > > > > The leaves > > that fall in the water > > turn into...fishes. > > > > From Leaves to Fishes. > > > > > > Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 > > > > > > Trust the science. > > > > "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. Lots of science people claim to read...books, but they don't.. If you read Sagan you would know he said the first ocean was formed by...trees. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-14 00:49 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ule8hp$21rm$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #625735 |
On 12/14/2023 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > Physfitfreak wrote: >> >> On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you >>>>>>>>>>> aware of that???? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth >>>>>>>>> or humans..." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Read Sagan books. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a >>>>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and >>>>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Turn on the TVeee >>>>>>> turn off the volume.. >>>>>>> and watch what you call >>>>>>> people on tv. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After a while you won't know >>>>>>> what they are... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Did Sagan say all that? >>>>> >>>>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" >>>>> --Carl Sagan >>>> >>>> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself >>>> everytime he repeats it... >>>> >>>> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules >>>> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ >>>> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan >>>> >>>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was >>>> just a ...Rain Forest. >>>> >>>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. >>> >>> >>> Now, all noise aside... >>> >>> while the rain forest was busy >>> making a river >>> to an ocean... >>> >>> you need fishes >>> to fill the ocean. >>> >>> Trees make the ocean, and trees also >>> make the fishes. >>> >>> >>> The leaves >>> that fall in the water >>> turn into...fishes. >>> >>> From Leaves to Fishes. >>> >>> >>> Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: >>> >>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 >>> >>> >>> Trust the science. >>> >> >> "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. > > Lots of science people claim to read...books, but they don't.. > > If you read Sagan you would know he said the first ocean was formed by...trees. > > > That's not what I remember. He said oceans were first made. In fact the first form of life itself was some unicellular thing that was formed inside the ocean! :) Trees evolved way later than that first appearance of life.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-14 00:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <657AB683.2A3A@ix.netcom.com> |
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Physfitfreak wrote: > > On 12/14/2023 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Physfitfreak wrote: > >> > >> On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you > >>>>>>>>>>> aware of that???? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth > >>>>>>>>> or humans..." > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Read Sagan books. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a > >>>>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and > >>>>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Turn on the TVeee > >>>>>>> turn off the volume.. > >>>>>>> and watch what you call > >>>>>>> people on tv. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> After a while you won't know > >>>>>>> what they are... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Did Sagan say all that? > >>>>> > >>>>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" > >>>>> --Carl Sagan > >>>> > >>>> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself > >>>> everytime he repeats it... > >>>> > >>>> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules > >>>> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ > >>>> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan > >>>> > >>>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > >>>> just a ...Rain Forest. > >>>> > >>>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. > >>> > >>> > >>> Now, all noise aside... > >>> > >>> while the rain forest was busy > >>> making a river > >>> to an ocean... > >>> > >>> you need fishes > >>> to fill the ocean. > >>> > >>> Trees make the ocean, and trees also > >>> make the fishes. > >>> > >>> > >>> The leaves > >>> that fall in the water > >>> turn into...fishes. > >>> > >>> From Leaves to Fishes. > >>> > >>> > >>> Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: > >>> > >>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 > >>> > >>> > >>> Trust the science. > >>> > >> > >> "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. > > > > Lots of science people claim to read...books, but they don't.. > > > > If you read Sagan you would know he said the first ocean was formed by...trees. > > > > > > > > That's not what I remember. You mean...'you don't recall.' You don't remember what you never read...i understand that. To be fair, I don't expect you to remember ...everything he wrote, or anything. > He said oceans were first made. In fact the > first form of life itself was some unicellular thing that was formed > inside the ocean! :) Trees evolved way later than that first appearance > of life. You continue to show you don't remember...anything. ignorance is a bliss, isn't it? You seem to lack A LOT of knowledge of what Carl Sagan said and wrote. First you say: "He said oceans were first made.", but you don't say How. Second you say 'life was formed inside the ocean, then trees evolved later. You lack knowledge on the first part, and the second part you are rembering completely... WRONG! Completely opposite!! Layman book???? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-14 00:26 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <657ABC3A.3783@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #625745 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Physfitfreak wrote: > > > > On 12/14/2023 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Physfitfreak wrote: > > >> > > >> On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you > > >>>>>>>>>>> aware of that???? > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth > > >>>>>>>>> or humans..." > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Read Sagan books. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a > > >>>>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and > > >>>>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Turn on the TVeee > > >>>>>>> turn off the volume.. > > >>>>>>> and watch what you call > > >>>>>>> people on tv. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> After a while you won't know > > >>>>>>> what they are... > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Did Sagan say all that? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" > > >>>>> --Carl Sagan > > >>>> > > >>>> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself > > >>>> everytime he repeats it... > > >>>> > > >>>> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules > > >>>> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ > > >>>> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan > > >>>> > > >>>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > > >>>> just a ...Rain Forest. > > >>>> > > >>>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Now, all noise aside... > > >>> > > >>> while the rain forest was busy > > >>> making a river > > >>> to an ocean... > > >>> > > >>> you need fishes > > >>> to fill the ocean. > > >>> > > >>> Trees make the ocean, and trees also > > >>> make the fishes. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> The leaves > > >>> that fall in the water > > >>> turn into...fishes. > > >>> > > >>> From Leaves to Fishes. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: > > >>> > > >>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Trust the science. > > >>> > > >> > > >> "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. > > > > > > Lots of science people claim to read...books, but they don't.. > > > > > > If you read Sagan you would know he said the first ocean was formed by...trees. > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not what I remember. > > You mean...'you don't recall.' You don't remember what you never > read...i understand that. > > To be fair, I don't expect you to remember ...everything he wrote, or > anything. > > > He said oceans were first made. In fact the > > first form of life itself was some unicellular thing that was formed > > inside the ocean! :) Trees evolved way later than that first appearance > > of life. > > You continue to show you don't remember...anything. ignorance is a > bliss, isn't it? > You seem to lack A LOT of knowledge of what Carl Sagan said and wrote. > > First you say: "He said oceans were first made.", but you don't say How. > > Second you say 'life was formed inside the ocean, then trees evolved > later. > > You lack knowledge on the first part, and the second part you are > rembering completely... WRONG! > > Completely opposite!! > > Layman book???? I mean, do I gotta start all over again from the very beginning??? The Moon's gravitional pull causes the one drop of water on a leaf to drop on the ground, in turn, making a river, a river to make a sea. The tree keeps the ocean...wet. It keeps it liquid. river to the sea. it's dat simple! -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-14 09:06 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <657B3617.279C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #625751 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Physfitfreak wrote: > > > > > > On 12/14/2023 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >> > > > >> On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you > > > >>>>>>>>>>> aware of that???? > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth > > > >>>>>>>>> or humans..." > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Read Sagan books. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a > > > >>>>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and > > > >>>>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Turn on the TVeee > > > >>>>>>> turn off the volume.. > > > >>>>>>> and watch what you call > > > >>>>>>> people on tv. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> After a while you won't know > > > >>>>>>> what they are... > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Did Sagan say all that? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" > > > >>>>> --Carl Sagan > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself > > > >>>> everytime he repeats it... > > > >>>> > > > >>>> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules > > > >>>> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ > > > >>>> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > > > >>>> just a ...Rain Forest. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Now, all noise aside... > > > >>> > > > >>> while the rain forest was busy > > > >>> making a river > > > >>> to an ocean... > > > >>> > > > >>> you need fishes > > > >>> to fill the ocean. > > > >>> > > > >>> Trees make the ocean, and trees also > > > >>> make the fishes. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> The leaves > > > >>> that fall in the water > > > >>> turn into...fishes. > > > >>> > > > >>> From Leaves to Fishes. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: > > > >>> > > > >>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Trust the science. > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. > > > > > > > > Lots of science people claim to read...books, but they don't.. > > > > > > > > If you read Sagan you would know he said the first ocean was formed by...trees. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not what I remember. > > > > You mean...'you don't recall.' You don't remember what you never > > read...i understand that. > > > > To be fair, I don't expect you to remember ...everything he wrote, or > > anything. > > > > > He said oceans were first made. In fact the > > > first form of life itself was some unicellular thing that was formed > > > inside the ocean! :) Trees evolved way later than that first appearance > > > of life. > > > > You continue to show you don't remember...anything. ignorance is a > > bliss, isn't it? > > You seem to lack A LOT of knowledge of what Carl Sagan said and wrote. > > > > First you say: "He said oceans were first made.", but you don't say How. > > > > Second you say 'life was formed inside the ocean, then trees evolved > > later. > > > > You lack knowledge on the first part, and the second part you are > > rembering completely... WRONG! > > > > Completely opposite!! > > > > Layman book???? In other words, your memory serves you wrong. It is serving it backwards! are you one of those science guys sick in the head reads and see things...backwards? common among yous. drink a glass of water then take a pill. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-14 18:26 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ulg6fk$2pdsm$4@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #625770 |
On 12/14/2023 11:06 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>> >>>> On 12/14/2023 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of that???? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth >>>>>>>>>>>>> or humans..." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Read Sagan books. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a >>>>>>>>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and >>>>>>>>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Turn on the TVeee >>>>>>>>>>> turn off the volume.. >>>>>>>>>>> and watch what you call >>>>>>>>>>> people on tv. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> After a while you won't know >>>>>>>>>>> what they are... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Did Sagan say all that? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" >>>>>>>>> --Carl Sagan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself >>>>>>>> everytime he repeats it... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules >>>>>>>> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ >>>>>>>> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was >>>>>>>> just a ...Rain Forest. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, all noise aside... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> while the rain forest was busy >>>>>>> making a river >>>>>>> to an ocean... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you need fishes >>>>>>> to fill the ocean. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trees make the ocean, and trees also >>>>>>> make the fishes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The leaves >>>>>>> that fall in the water >>>>>>> turn into...fishes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From Leaves to Fishes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trust the science. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. >>>>> >>>>> Lots of science people claim to read...books, but they don't.. >>>>> >>>>> If you read Sagan you would know he said the first ocean was formed by...trees. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> That's not what I remember. >>> >>> You mean...'you don't recall.' You don't remember what you never >>> read...i understand that. >>> >>> To be fair, I don't expect you to remember ...everything he wrote, or >>> anything. >>> >>>> He said oceans were first made. In fact the >>>> first form of life itself was some unicellular thing that was formed >>>> inside the ocean! :) Trees evolved way later than that first appearance >>>> of life. >>> >>> You continue to show you don't remember...anything. ignorance is a >>> bliss, isn't it? >>> You seem to lack A LOT of knowledge of what Carl Sagan said and wrote. >>> >>> First you say: "He said oceans were first made.", but you don't say How. >>> >>> Second you say 'life was formed inside the ocean, then trees evolved >>> later. >>> >>> You lack knowledge on the first part, and the second part you are >>> rembering completely... WRONG! >>> >>> Completely opposite!! >>> >>> Layman book???? > > > In other words, your memory serves you wrong. > > It is serving it backwards! > > are you one of those science guys > sick in the head > reads and see things...backwards? > common among yous. > > drink a glass of water > then take a pill. > > What kind of pill?
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-14 18:25 -0600 |
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On 12/14/2023 2:26 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > I mean, do I gotta start all over again from the very beginning??? Sometimes :)
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| Date | 2023-12-14 18:25 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ulg6e0$2pdsm$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #625745 |
On 12/14/2023 2:02 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Layman book???? Yes, books for the Laymen, so they don't have to spend 20 years of their lives to begin to have some more or less correct ideas in the same topics. Read them.
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-14 19:37 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ulgakt$2pdsm$19@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #625745 |
On 12/14/2023 2:02 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > Physfitfreak wrote: >> >> On 12/14/2023 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>> >>>> On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you >>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of that???? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth >>>>>>>>>>> or humans..." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Read Sagan books. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a >>>>>>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and >>>>>>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Turn on the TVeee >>>>>>>>> turn off the volume.. >>>>>>>>> and watch what you call >>>>>>>>> people on tv. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After a while you won't know >>>>>>>>> what they are... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did Sagan say all that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" >>>>>>> --Carl Sagan >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself >>>>>> everytime he repeats it... >>>>>> >>>>>> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules >>>>>> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ >>>>>> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was >>>>>> just a ...Rain Forest. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Now, all noise aside... >>>>> >>>>> while the rain forest was busy >>>>> making a river >>>>> to an ocean... >>>>> >>>>> you need fishes >>>>> to fill the ocean. >>>>> >>>>> Trees make the ocean, and trees also >>>>> make the fishes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The leaves >>>>> that fall in the water >>>>> turn into...fishes. >>>>> >>>>> From Leaves to Fishes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: >>>>> >>>>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Trust the science. >>>>> >>>> >>>> "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. >>> >>> Lots of science people claim to read...books, but they don't.. >>> >>> If you read Sagan you would know he said the first ocean was formed by...trees. >>> >>> >>> >> >> That's not what I remember. > > You mean...'you don't recall.' You don't remember what you never > read...i understand that. > > To be fair, I don't expect you to remember ...everything he wrote, or > anything. > > >> He said oceans were first made. In fact the >> first form of life itself was some unicellular thing that was formed >> inside the ocean! :) Trees evolved way later than that first appearance >> of life. > > You continue to show you don't remember...anything. ignorance is a > bliss, isn't it? > You seem to lack A LOT of knowledge of what Carl Sagan said and wrote. > > First you say: "He said oceans were first made.", but you don't say How. > > Second you say 'life was formed inside the ocean, then trees evolved > later. > > > You lack knowledge on the first part, and the second part you are > rembering completely... WRONG! > > Completely opposite!! > > > Layman book???? > > > > > I don't remember that I said I don't recall. I remember that I said I remember.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-14 21:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <657BDF96.4442@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #625802 |
Physfitfreak wrote: > > On 12/14/2023 2:02 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Physfitfreak wrote: > >> > >> On 12/14/2023 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you > >>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of that???? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth > >>>>>>>>>>> or humans..." > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Read Sagan books. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a > >>>>>>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and > >>>>>>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Turn on the TVeee > >>>>>>>>> turn off the volume.. > >>>>>>>>> and watch what you call > >>>>>>>>> people on tv. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> After a while you won't know > >>>>>>>>> what they are... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Did Sagan say all that? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" > >>>>>>> --Carl Sagan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself > >>>>>> everytime he repeats it... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules > >>>>>> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ > >>>>>> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > >>>>>> just a ...Rain Forest. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Now, all noise aside... > >>>>> > >>>>> while the rain forest was busy > >>>>> making a river > >>>>> to an ocean... > >>>>> > >>>>> you need fishes > >>>>> to fill the ocean. > >>>>> > >>>>> Trees make the ocean, and trees also > >>>>> make the fishes. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The leaves > >>>>> that fall in the water > >>>>> turn into...fishes. > >>>>> > >>>>> From Leaves to Fishes. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Trust the science. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. > >>> > >>> Lots of science people claim to read...books, but they don't.. > >>> > >>> If you read Sagan you would know he said the first ocean was formed by...trees. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> That's not what I remember. > > > > You mean...'you don't recall.' You don't remember what you never > > read...i understand that. > > > > To be fair, I don't expect you to remember ...everything he wrote, or > > anything. > > > > > >> He said oceans were first made. In fact the > >> first form of life itself was some unicellular thing that was formed > >> inside the ocean! :) Trees evolved way later than that first appearance > >> of life. > > > > You continue to show you don't remember...anything. ignorance is a > > bliss, isn't it? > > You seem to lack A LOT of knowledge of what Carl Sagan said and wrote. > > > > First you say: "He said oceans were first made.", but you don't say How. > > > > Second you say 'life was formed inside the ocean, then trees evolved > > later. > > > > > > You lack knowledge on the first part, and the second part you are > > rembering completely... WRONG! > > > > Completely opposite!! > > > > > > Layman book???? > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember that I said I don't recall. I remember that I said I > remember. okay, here are the order of events by Carl Sagan... 'trees formed the primitive atmosphere of earth and the first oceans.' should be easy for you to understand as layman as I could put it. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-12-15 18:47 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ulis26$2qp5g$4@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #625818 |
On 12/14/2023 11:09 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > okay, here are the order of events by Carl Sagan... > > 'trees formed the primitive atmosphere of earth and the first oceans.' > > > If that's an actual quote, you may be quoting from Velikovsky, not Sagan. The two were at each other's throats. Hey! Velikovsky was also a fellow New Yorker of yours, but I'm not sure in Brooklyn or some other area. Perhaps there were science gangs formed in those years over there among the enthusiasts, fighting and competing with each other while not busy reading interesting comics that were coming out. Were you a junior little gang member there? Tell me about those years.
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