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| Started by | "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2023-10-19 15:57 -0700 |
| Last post | 2023-10-30 13:29 -0700 |
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Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-19 15:57 -0700
Re: Time does not end... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-10-19 21:14 -0700
Re: Time does not end... Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-19 23:31 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-20 10:59 -0700
Re: Time does not end... Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-10-20 12:28 -0700
Re: Time does not end... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-10-20 13:37 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-20 15:28 -0700
Re: Time does not end... Pascal Bagler <eage@gclraaab.lc> - 2023-10-21 14:06 +0000
Re: Time does not end... Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-10-21 12:55 -0400
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 16:42 -0700
Re: Time does not end... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-10-24 15:01 -0700
Re: Time does not end... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-10-24 15:00 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 19:43 -0700
Re: Time does not end... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 19:51 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 10:34 -0700
Re: Time does not end... JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 20:03 -0700
Re: Time does not end... Yasmani Baharev <reai@iaaaahns.vm> - 2023-10-27 07:31 +0000
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-27 12:13 -0700
Re: Time does not end... Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2023-10-29 14:34 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 15:56 -0700
Re: Time does not end... Bladimir Babynin <dlir@maybdamn.db> - 2023-10-21 13:15 +0000
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-24 21:51 -0700
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-10-26 11:09 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 11:20 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 13:19 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 14:37 -0700
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-10-26 16:58 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-28 15:16 -0700
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-10-28 21:38 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 11:50 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 13:40 -0700
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-10-29 16:32 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 17:03 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 17:04 -0700
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-10-29 17:50 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 20:38 -0700
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-10-29 23:34 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 13:29 -0700
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-11-01 13:02 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 13:07 -0700
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-11-01 16:07 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 13:49 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 10:45 -0700
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-11-03 11:30 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 10:04 -0700
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-11-04 12:28 -0700
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-11-05 01:51 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 10:19 -0800
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-11-05 11:06 -0800
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 11:39 -0800
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-11-05 12:00 -0800
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 12:35 -0800
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 12:33 -0800
Re: Time does not end... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-11-05 12:47 -0800
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 12:32 -0800
Re: Time does not end... Stormy Kablukov <kylk@lsykrlau.by> - 2023-11-04 20:45 +0000
Re: Time does not end... "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 11:29 -0700
Re: Time does not end... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 13:29 -0700
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| From | Bladimir Babynin <dlir@maybdamn.db> |
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| Date | 2023-10-21 13:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uh0iu1$l4sv$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #623174 |
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote: >> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >> It doesn't. > > Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends? > It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over > inside. Your teachers have cheated you Jan. > They left you out... They can be your authority... are you the american people??
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-24 21:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <uha6ru$h7o2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #623146 |
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > Where was that second time before? with the first time? > How are their two times together first? > What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? Time does not end at all.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-26 11:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <653AAB43.5A7C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #623335 |
Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > > Where was that second time before? with the first time? > > How are their two times together first? > > What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? > > Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall > into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the > object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still > moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? > > Time does not end at all. If Time does not end at all then Time has no beginning at all. The first three secinds are simply Time created in...seconds. Before the 'second' we had Time without seconds. Eternal Time. No beginning, no end. I mean, yous people still don't understand The Code! This is The Code: 'In the begininng, God created the heavens and the earth.' Now, you take The Code..."In the begininng..." Define "In" Define "the" Define "beginning" And The Code reads: 'In space, the first second was created.' or, 'In Time, the first second was created.' And the movie began...frame by frame. Time is film without the frames. Add a frame...you have the first second of the movie. I hope you brought your own popcorn... -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-26 11:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9e1a393e-9eee-4d62-9eee-c4295fc8e146n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #623404 |
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > > > On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > > > Where was that second time before? with the first time? > > > How are their two times together first? > > > What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? > > > > Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall > > into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the > > object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still > > moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? > > > > Time does not end at all. > If Time does not end at all then > > Time has no beginning at all. No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... > The first three secinds are simply Time created in...seconds. > > Before the 'second' we had Time without seconds. Eternal Time. > > No beginning, no end. > > > I mean, yous people still don't understand The Code! > > This is The Code: 'In the begininng, God created the heavens and the earth.' > > > Now, you take The Code..."In the begininng..." > > Define "In" > Define "the" > Define "beginning" > > And The Code reads: 'In space, the first second was created.' > > or, 'In Time, the first second was created.' > > > And the movie began...frame by frame. > > Time is film without the frames. Add a frame...you have the first second of the movie. > > I hope you brought your own popcorn... > > > > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-26 13:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <uhehjq$1qt9a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #623407 |
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> >>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>> How are their two times together first? >>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>> >>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>> >>> Time does not end at all. >> If Time does not end at all then >> >> Time has no beginning at all. > > No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... [...] Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
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| From | "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-26 14:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c467944c-cf01-4725-9609-0298006b8e3an@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #623413 |
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>> > >>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > >>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? > >>>> How are their two times together first? > >>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? > >>> > >>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall > >>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the > >>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still > >>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? > >>> > >>> Time does not end at all. > >> If Time does not end at all then > >> > >> Time has no beginning at all. > > > > No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... > [...] > > Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-26 16:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <653AFD33.6C54@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #623418 |
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > >>> > > >>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > >>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > > >>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? > > >>>> How are their two times together first? > > >>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? > > >>> > > >>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall > > >>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the > > >>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still > > >>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? > > >>> > > >>> Time does not end at all. > > >> If Time does not end at all then > > >> > > >> Time has no beginning at all. > > > > > > No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... > > [...] > > > > Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) > > In another way... He has always been a timeless God... The watch that God was wearing before didn't have seconds or minutes or a big hand and a little hand. It was not a timeless watch...it was a tick tock less watch. An hour glass without the sand... it was kind of...boring. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-28 15:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <uhk17c$3gre7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #623418 |
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>> How are their two times together first? >>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>> >>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>> >>>>> Time does not end at all. >>>> If Time does not end at all then >>>> >>>> Time has no beginning at all. >>> >>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >> [...] >> >> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) > > In another way... He has always been a timeless God... That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-28 21:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <653DE1BC.7F50@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #623500 |
Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > >>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? > >>>>>> How are their two times together first? > >>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? > >>>>> > >>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall > >>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the > >>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still > >>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? > >>>>> > >>>>> Time does not end at all. > >>>> If Time does not end at all then > >>>> > >>>> Time has no beginning at all. > >>> > >>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... > >> [...] > >> > >> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) > > > > In another way... He has always been a timeless God... > > That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been > there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always > been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. God wasn't always there... God is a result of the evolution of the universe. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-29 11:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6521ebed-4267-44f8-934a-ba31f1d0140an@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #623509 |
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 9:37:47 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > > > On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > >> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > >>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > >>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > > >>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? > > >>>>>> How are their two times together first? > > >>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall > > >>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the > > >>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still > > >>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Time does not end at all. > > >>>> If Time does not end at all then > > >>>> > > >>>> Time has no beginning at all. > > >>> > > >>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... > > >> [...] > > >> > > >> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) > > > > > > In another way... He has always been a timeless God... > > > > That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been > > there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always > > been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. > God wasn't always there... > > God is a result of the evolution of the universe. I know a God exists...I see you playing Him... God is Math before man. > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-29 13:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <uhmg0h$27lp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #623509 |
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Time does not end at all. >>>>>> If Time does not end at all then >>>>>> >>>>>> Time has no beginning at all. >>>>> >>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>> [...] >>>> >>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>> >>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God... >> >> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been >> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always >> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. > > > God wasn't always there... > > God is a result of the evolution of the universe. So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? Fair enough?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-29 16:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <653EEB77.413F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #623524 |
Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> > >> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > >>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? > >>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? > >>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall > >>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the > >>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still > >>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Time does not end at all. > >>>>>> If Time does not end at all then > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Time has no beginning at all. > >>>>> > >>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... > >>>> [...] > >>>> > >>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) > >>> > >>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God... > >> > >> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been > >> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always > >> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. > > > > > > God wasn't always there... > > > > God is a result of the evolution of the universe. > > So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of > the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? > > Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? > > Fair enough? You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the Big Bang. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-29 17:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <uhmrt7$42st$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #623533 |
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >> On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>>>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Time does not end at all. >>>>>>>> If Time does not end at all then >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Time has no beginning at all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>> >>>>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>> >>>> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been >>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always >>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>> >>> >>> God wasn't always there... >>> >>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >> >> So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of >> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? >> >> Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >> >> Fair enough? > > You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. > > God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result > of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the > Big Bang. Afaict, that still boils down to a chicken and egg problem. So, the universe was always there to solve it?
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-29 17:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <uhmrv3$42st$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #623533 |
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >> On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>>>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Time does not end at all. >>>>>>>> If Time does not end at all then >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Time has no beginning at all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>> >>>>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>> >>>> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been >>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always >>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>> >>> >>> God wasn't always there... >>> >>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >> >> So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of >> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? >> >> Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >> >> Fair enough? > > You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. > > God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result > of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the > Big Bang. > > > > He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-29 17:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <653EFDD8.68CA@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #623535 |
Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> > >> On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > >>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? > >>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? > >>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall > >>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the > >>>>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still > >>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Time does not end at all. > >>>>>>>> If Time does not end at all then > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Time has no beginning at all. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... > >>>>>> [...] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) > >>>>> > >>>>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God... > >>>> > >>>> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been > >>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always > >>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. > >>> > >>> > >>> God wasn't always there... > >>> > >>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. > >> > >> So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of > >> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? > >> > >> Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? > >> > >> Fair enough? > > > > You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. > > > > God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result > > of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the > > Big Bang. > > > > > > > > > > He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he > always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evoled. God wasn't always there... and neither were you. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-29 20:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <uhn8f7$9sim$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #623537 |
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >> On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>>>>>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Time does not end at all. >>>>>>>>>> If Time does not end at all then >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Time has no beginning at all. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>> >>>>>> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been >>>>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always >>>>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> God wasn't always there... >>>>> >>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >>>> >>>> So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of >>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? >>>> >>>> Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >>>> >>>> Fair enough? >>> >>> You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>> >>> God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the >>> Big Bang. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he >> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... > > God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evoled. > > God wasn't always there... > > and neither were you. > How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-29 23:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <653F4E8B.10D8@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #623540 |
Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> > >> On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > >>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? > >>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? > >>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall > >>>>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the > >>>>>>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still > >>>>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Time does not end at all. > >>>>>>>>>> If Time does not end at all then > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Time has no beginning at all. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... > >>>>>>>> [...] > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been > >>>>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always > >>>>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> God wasn't always there... > >>>>> > >>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. > >>>> > >>>> So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of > >>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? > >>>> > >>>> Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? > >>>> > >>>> Fair enough? > >>> > >>> You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. > >>> > >>> God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result > >>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the > >>> Big Bang. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he > >> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... > > > > God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evoled. > > > > God wasn't always there... > > > > and neither were you. > > > > How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak? forever and a day. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-30 13:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <uhp3nc$k6ng$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #623542 |
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >> On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>>>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>>>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Time does not end at all. >>>>>>>>>>>> If Time does not end at all then >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Time has no beginning at all. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been >>>>>>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always >>>>>>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> God wasn't always there... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of >>>>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> Fair enough? >>>>> >>>>> You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>>>> >>>>> God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the >>>>> Big Bang. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he >>>> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... >>> >>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evoled. >>> >>> God wasn't always there... >>> >>> and neither were you. >>> >> >> How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak? > > forever and a day. > > :^D Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-11-01 13:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6542AEDE.3AD@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #623562 |
Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> > >> On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall > >>>>>>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still > >>>>>>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Time does not end at all. > >>>>>>>>>>>> If Time does not end at all then > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Time has no beginning at all. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... > >>>>>>>>>> [...] > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been > >>>>>>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always > >>>>>>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> God wasn't always there... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of > >>>>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fair enough? > >>>>> > >>>>> You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. > >>>>> > >>>>> God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result > >>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the > >>>>> Big Bang. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he > >>>> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... > >>> > >>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved. > >>> > >>> God wasn't always there... > >>> > >>> and neither were you. > >>> > >> > >> How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak? > > > > forever and a day. > > > > > > :^D > > Was God ever truly alone? Humm... Before God came into play...so to speak, .. the universe had plenty of time to figure out how to create a universe with everything IN IT. The universe needed a God to create it. But in the process, of the big bang God would be...dispersed. E=Mc^2 Enrico Fermi when he was 21 years old: Enrico Fermi was intensively involved with Einstein's theory of relativity and traced the hidden power of atomic nuclei. In 1923, he wrote that it would probably not be possible to release this energy in the near future, "because the first effect would be an explosion so terrible that it would tear the physicist who tried it to pieces". God is...everywhere. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-11-01 13:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <uhub6q$1p2jm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #623625 |
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >> On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time does not end at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Time does not end at all then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time has no beginning at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been >>>>>>>>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always >>>>>>>>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> God wasn't always there... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of >>>>>>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fair enough? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the >>>>>>> Big Bang. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he >>>>>> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... >>>>> >>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved. >>>>> >>>>> God wasn't always there... >>>>> >>>>> and neither were you. >>>>> >>>> >>>> How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak? >>> >>> forever and a day. >>> >>> >> >> :^D >> >> Was God ever truly alone? Humm... > > Before God came into play...so to speak, .. > > the universe had plenty of time to figure out > how to create a universe with everything IN IT. > > The universe needed a God to create it. [...] So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem? God was before the universe, right?
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