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  Length contraction cannot cease "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-19 09:57 -0700
    Re: Length contraction cannot cease Maria Haritonenko <omtk@oiaramnh.ei> - 2023-07-19 21:13 +0000
      Re: Length contraction cannot cease "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-19 14:37 -0700
        Re: Length contraction cannot cease Marlon Bulakov <airn@urmnmmin.nu> - 2023-07-19 21:50 +0000
          Re: Length contraction cannot cease "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-19 16:52 -0700
            Re: Length contraction cannot cease Doulgas Bazulev <laeb@ludllvgg.sd> - 2023-07-20 08:15 +0000
              Re: Length contraction cannot cease Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-20 01:24 -0700
                Re: Length contraction cannot cease Michial Yushkevich <iyci@ylkclcyv.yl> - 2023-07-20 08:46 +0000
                  Re: Length contraction cannot cease "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-20 10:33 -0700
                    Re: Length contraction cannot cease Nicky Hazanovich <aahk@cihnvnhc.ao> - 2023-07-20 20:55 +0000
    Re: Length contraction cannot cease Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-20 13:14 +1000
      Re: Length contraction cannot cease Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-19 20:38 -0700
        Re: Length contraction cannot cease The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-19 22:21 -0700
          Re: Length contraction cannot cease Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-19 23:09 -0700
        Re: Length contraction cannot cease Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-20 15:36 +1000
          Re: Length contraction cannot cease Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-19 23:08 -0700
            Re: Length contraction cannot cease Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-07-20 17:14 +1000
              Re: Length contraction cannot cease whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-20 02:23 -0500
                Re: Length contraction cannot cease "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-07-20 00:46 -0700
                Re: Length contraction cannot cease Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-20 00:51 -0700
              Re: Length contraction cannot cease Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-20 00:34 -0700
          Re: Length contraction cannot cease patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-07-20 17:37 -0700
            Re: Length contraction cannot cease "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-20 18:10 -0700
              Re: Length contraction cannot cease patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-07-20 18:27 -0700
                Re: Length contraction cannot cease "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-20 18:41 -0700
                  Re: Length contraction cannot cease patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-07-20 19:07 -0700
                    Re: Length contraction cannot cease "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-20 19:26 -0700
    Re: Length contraction cannot cease Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-07-22 11:33 -0700
      Re: Length contraction cannot cease "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-22 13:00 -0700
        Re: Length contraction cannot cease Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2023-07-23 13:31 -0700
          Re: Length contraction cannot cease "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-24 09:17 -0700

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#615682 — Length contraction cannot cease

because there is no absolute rest...
So where does it begin?

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#615706

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> because there is no absolute rest... So where does it begin?

which one? There are two kinds of length contraction. That  assoc with 
gravity has nothing to do with light, but with space. What is the name of 
your teacher?

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#615708

On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:13:11 PM UTC-7, Maria Haritonenko wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> > because there is no absolute rest... So where does it begin?
> which one? There are two kinds of length contraction. That assoc with 
> gravity has nothing to do with light, but with space. What is the name of 
> your teacher?

How does space go away approaching the event horizon?
Where then is the volume of a BH?
And What about motion could take away dimension?
Both do not belong in physics.... never have.

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#615710

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:13:11 PM UTC-7, Maria Haritonenko
> wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> > because there is no absolute rest... So where does it begin?
>> which one? There are two kinds of length contraction. That assoc with
>> gravity has nothing to do with light, but with space. What is the name
>> of your teacher?
> 
> How does space go away approaching the event horizon?
> Where then is the volume of a BH?
> And What about motion could take away dimension?
> Both do not belong in physics.... never have.

I'm not sure, but the length contraction associated with gravity, has 
nothing to do with speed. It's kind of 2nd order effect direct into the 
space, whereas no speed is required. Yes, dimensions might disappear at 
blackholes, since the quantum domain is entered. But I can't explain it, 
nor imagine. Good post, thank you. I look forward to collaborate. Which 
country are we talking about?

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#615714

On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:50:12 PM UTC-7, Marlon Bulakov wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> > On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 2:13:11 PM UTC-7, Maria Haritonenko 
> > wrote: 
> >> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> >> 
> >> > because there is no absolute rest... So where does it begin? 
> >> which one? There are two kinds of length contraction. That assoc with 
> >> gravity has nothing to do with light, but with space. What is the name 
> >> of your teacher? 
> > 
> > How does space go away approaching the event horizon? 
> > Where then is the volume of a BH? 
> > And What about motion could take away dimension? 
> > Both do not belong in physics.... never have.
> I'm not sure, but the length contraction associated with gravity, has 
> nothing to do with speed. It's kind of 2nd order effect direct into the 
> space, whereas no speed is required. Yes, dimensions might disappear at 
> blackholes, 
Dimension disappear approaching the event horizon. What is the BH volume?

> since the quantum domain is entered. But I can't explain it, 
> nor imagine. Good post, thank you. I look forward to collaborate. Which 
> country are we talking about?

If both motion and gravity can length contract then how do they both  for a single length?

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#615744

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dimension disappear approaching the event horizon. What is the BH
> volume?

thereafter, not approaching before.

>> since the quantum domain is entered. But I can't explain it,
>> nor imagine. Good post, thank you. I look forward to collaborate. Which
>> country are we talking about?
> 
> If both motion and gravity can length contract then how do they both 
> for a single length?

superpositioning. However, I am an American and have been so my entire 
life. 50 plus years on this earth ha taught me to study carefully the 
presence of evil in our midst. I conclude that our leaders lie constantly 
and that our government has been thoroughly corrupted. We have no right to 
be meddling in Ukraine. In any event we have zero chance of changing the 
inevitable outcome. Russia has effectively taken the most valuable ground 
and has effectively isolated the rest from any possible hope of relief. 
All of NATO needs to return to their home countries and beg their citizens 
for forgiveness. They will never do so however, and I fear they will only 
escalate. I am ashamed for my nation.

us and uk has nothing to do in Black Sea. They are provable 
𝗶𝗻𝗯𝗿𝗲𝗲𝗱_𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗿𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝘀. Tell them to fuck off. Tell them I sent you to say that.

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#615745

On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 10:16:01 UTC+2, Doulgas Bazulev wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> > Dimension disappear approaching the event horizon. What is the BH 
> > volume?
> thereafter, not approaching before.
> >> since the quantum domain is entered. But I can't explain it, 
> >> nor imagine. Good post, thank you. I look forward to collaborate. Which 
> >> country are we talking about? 
> > 
> > If both motion and gravity can length contract then how do they both 
> > for a single length?
> superpositioning. However, I am an American 

No, nymshifting troll, you're not.

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#615749

Maciej Wozniak wrote:

> On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 10:16:01 UTC+2, Doulgas Bazulev wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> > Dimension disappear approaching the event horizon. What is the BH
>> > volume?
>> thereafter, not approaching before.
>> >> since the quantum domain is entered. But I can't explain it,
>> >> nor imagine. Good post, thank you. I look forward to collaborate.
>> >> Which country are we talking about?
>> > 
>> > If both motion and gravity can length contract then how do they both
>> > for a single length?
>> superpositioning. However, I am an American
> 
> No, nymshifting troll, you're not.

you suck our american dicks, then, you stinking polaker swines. You soon 
will be raped by the free people of europe. You nazis always ends up 
fucking the ass of each other.

the mighty usa cant do nothing about it but sell you some weapons and 
watch you die using them.

Finally Russia is winning. Finally, Moscow is talking/acting as it should.

khazar goym NATO Expansion = War, poverty and hunger.

At last. Weapons deliveries to Odessa on arriving grain vessels, 
uncovered. Was this part of the West's grain deal or another betrayal by 
the West.

It seems Russian intelligence knows of those weapons shipments to Odessa 
coming out of the Port of Constanta and other ports in Romania but did the 
Romanian government know or did USA and NATO just do whatever they 
pleased ? If not the Romanian government needs to wake up. Even a humble 
civilian like myself monitors AIS, ADS-B and MLAT and the problem with 
Americans is they are so noisy you can hear them on the other side of the 
planet.

Messing with Russian intelligence gathering abilities is not very 
intelligent to be honest. If we even go back to the days of the USSR and 
Stalin they were so up to date on Project Manhattan when it was announced 
to the world USA had this mighty atomic weapon Stalin didn't even blink at 
the news.


https://%72t.com/news/579990-us-ukraine-ports-russian-warning/

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#615768

On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:46:10 AM UTC-7, Michial Yushkevich wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> 
> > On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 10:16:01 UTC+2, Doulgas Bazulev wrote: 
> >> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> >> 
> >> > Dimension disappear approaching the event horizon. What is the BH 
> >> > volume? 
> >> thereafter, not approaching before. 
> >> >> since the quantum domain is entered. But I can't explain it, 
> >> >> nor imagine. Good post, thank you. I look forward to collaborate. 
> >> >> Which country are we talking about? 
> >> > 
> >> > If both motion and gravity can length contract then how do they both 
> >> > for a single length? 
> >> superpositioning. However, I am an American 
> > 
> > No, nymshifting troll, you're not.
> you suck our american dicks, then, you stinking polaker swines. You soon 
> will be raped by the free people of europe. You nazis always ends up 
> fucking the ass of each other. 
> 
> the mighty usa cant do nothing about it but sell you some weapons and 
> watch you die using them. 
> 
> Finally Russia is winning. Finally, Moscow is talking/acting as it should. 
> 
> khazar goym NATO Expansion = War, poverty and hunger. 
> 
> At last. Weapons deliveries to Odessa on arriving grain vessels, 
> uncovered. Was this part of the West's grain deal or another betrayal by 
> the West. 
> 
> It seems Russian intelligence knows of those weapons shipments to Odessa 
> coming out of the Port of Constanta and other ports in Romania but did the 
> Romanian government know or did USA and NATO just do whatever they 
> pleased ? If not the Romanian government needs to wake up. Even a humble 
> civilian like myself monitors AIS, ADS-B and MLAT and the problem with 
> Americans is they are so noisy you can hear them on the other side of the 
> planet. 
> 
> Messing with Russian intelligence gathering abilities is not very 
> intelligent to be honest. If we even go back to the days of the USSR and 
> Stalin they were so up to date on Project Manhattan when it was announced 
> to the world USA had this mighty atomic weapon Stalin didn't even blink at 
> the news. 
> 
> 
> https://%72t.com/news/579990-us-ukraine-ports-russian-warning/

If there is no absolute rest how can length contraction cease?
At the BB beginning there was first length. So how was it contracted
at the initial condition? What was the beginning length contraction?
and if there are two sources how does it double...? together?

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#615786

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> https://%72t.com/news/579990-us-ukraine-ports-russian-warning/
> 
> If there is no absolute rest how can length contraction cease?
> At the BB beginning there was first length. So how was it contracted at
> the initial condition? What was the beginning length contraction?
> and if there are two sources how does it double...? together?

big bangs are not blackholes. You mix shit together. A blackhole likely 
panificates or spaghettifies at its surface, before entering the horizon.

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#615719

On 20-July-23 2:57 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> because there is no absolute rest...
> So where does it begin?

The length of things does not change, so your supposed problem does not 
exist.

Sylvia.

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#615724

On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 05:14:55 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 20-July-23 2:57 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > because there is no absolute rest... 
> > So where does it begin?
> The length of things does not change

Do You think that the Holy Measurement
Results are lying, lady?

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#615729

Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 05:14:55 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > On 20-July-23 2:57 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > because there is no absolute rest...
> > > So where does it begin?
> > The length of things does not change
> 
> Do You think that the Holy Measurement
> Results are lying, lady?


lady???? isn't Sylvia a ...trans?? (1'm 100 percent sure)


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#615733

On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 07:20:53 UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > 
> > On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 05:14:55 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: 
> > > On 20-July-23 2:57 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > > because there is no absolute rest... 
> > > > So where does it begin? 
> > > The length of things does not change 
> > 
> > Do You think that the Holy Measurement 
> > Results are lying, lady?
> lady???? isn't Sylvia a ...trans?? (1'm 100 percent sure) 

Don't give a damn to things you're 100% sure.
Sorry.

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#615730

On 20-July-23 1:38 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 05:14:55 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 20-July-23 2:57 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> because there is no absolute rest...
>>> So where does it begin?
>> The length of things does not change
> 
> Do You think that the Holy Measurement
> Results are lying, lady?
> 

The measurement of length is frame dependent. A measurement doesn't 
affect the proper length of the thing being measured.

Sylvia.

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#615732

On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 07:36:38 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 20-July-23 1:38 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 05:14:55 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote: 
> >> On 20-July-23 2:57 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> >>> because there is no absolute rest... 
> >>> So where does it begin? 
> >> The length of things does not change 
> > 
> > Do You think that the Holy Measurement 
> > Results are lying, lady? 
> >
> The measurement of length is frame dependent. A measurement doesn't 
> affect the proper length of the thing being measured. 

Seems it doesn't give the proper value of  the
measured property as well.
Of course, making measurements corresponding
to the measured  values is just another common sense
prejudice, refuted by Your insane gurus. Why not?
Refuting common sense prejudices is cool. And
the believers will buy anything.

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#615737

On 20-July-23 4:08 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 07:36:38 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 20-July-23 1:38 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 05:14:55 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 20-July-23 2:57 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> because there is no absolute rest...
>>>>> So where does it begin?
>>>> The length of things does not change
>>>
>>> Do You think that the Holy Measurement
>>> Results are lying, lady?
>>>
>> The measurement of length is frame dependent. A measurement doesn't
>> affect the proper length of the thing being measured.
> 
> Seems it doesn't give the proper value of  the
> measured property as well.

By that, I assume you mean the value that would actually be measured if 
one did the measuring.

This is not something that can be determined other than by experiment. I 
doubt that you have done such a measurement.

Sylvia.

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#615739

On 7/20/2023 2:14 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 20-July-23 4:08 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>> On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 07:36:38 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 20-July-23 1:38 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 05:14:55 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>> On 20-July-23 2:57 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> because there is no absolute rest...
>>>>>> So where does it begin?
>>>>> The length of things does not change
>>>>
>>>> Do You think that the Holy Measurement
>>>> Results are lying, lady?
>>>>
>>> The measurement of length is frame dependent. A measurement doesn't
>>> affect the proper length of the thing being measured.
>>
>> Seems it doesn't give the proper value of  the
>> measured property as well.
> 
> By that, I assume you mean the value that would actually be measured if 
> one did the measuring.
> 
> This is not something that can be determined other than by experiment. I 
> doubt that you have done such a measurement.
> 
> Sylvia.

It is clear from the reply to my posting by Dolan that neither
individual believes in or lives in Euclidean space. I had
previously killfiled Maciej and tonight am killfiling Dolan
because with neither of them inhabiting the same Euclidean
space I live in we have absolutely nothing to discuss.

Personally I don't care where they live or what universe they
think they're discussing. I am here in this one and it is
defined as understood by the human race, the three dimensi0nal
space defined by Euclid, sometimes 4 if we consider it to
consist of space-time.

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#615742

On 7/20/2023 12:23 AM, whodat wrote:
> On 7/20/2023 2:14 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 20-July-23 4:08 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 07:36:38 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 20-July-23 1:38 pm, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 05:14:55 UTC+2, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>> On 20-July-23 2:57 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> because there is no absolute rest...
>>>>>>> So where does it begin?
>>>>>> The length of things does not change
>>>>>
>>>>> Do You think that the Holy Measurement
>>>>> Results are lying, lady?
>>>>>
>>>> The measurement of length is frame dependent. A measurement doesn't
>>>> affect the proper length of the thing being measured.
>>>
>>> Seems it doesn't give the proper value of  the
>>> measured property as well.
>>
>> By that, I assume you mean the value that would actually be measured 
>> if one did the measuring.
>>
>> This is not something that can be determined other than by experiment. 
>> I doubt that you have done such a measurement.
>>
>> Sylvia.
> 
> It is clear from the reply to my posting by Dolan that neither
> individual believes in or lives in Euclidean space. I had
> previously killfiled Maciej and tonight am killfiling Dolan
> because with neither of them inhabiting the same Euclidean
> space I live in we have absolutely nothing to discuss.
> 
> Personally I don't care where they live or what universe they
> think they're discussing. I am here in this one and it is
> defined as understood by the human race, the three dimensi0nal
> space defined by Euclid, sometimes 4 if we consider it to
> consist of space-time.
> 

Still not sure how time can be considered a dimension when it exists in 
all dimensions?

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#615743

On Thursday, 20 July 2023 at 09:23:30 UTC+2, whodat wrote:

> Personally I don't care where they live or what universe they 
> think they're discussing. I am here in this one and it is 
> defined as understood by the human race, the three dimensi0nal 
> space defined by Euclid, sometimes 4 if we consider it to 
> consist of space-time.

What a surprise. I always believed you're an obedient
follower  of your idiot guru and his magnificient discoveries,
Now I see you're an ordinary antirelativistic crank. Nice.

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