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| Started by | "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2023-03-06 10:52 -0800 |
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Can science prove time is not real? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-03-06 10:52 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-06 11:50 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-03-07 14:02 +1100
Re: Can science prove time is not real? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-03-06 22:27 -0600
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-03-06 20:16 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-03-07 15:48 +1100
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-03-06 23:07 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-03-07 11:14 +0100
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-03-07 02:29 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-08 17:40 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-03-08 20:52 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-08 23:53 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-09 11:58 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-07 11:37 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-03-07 12:25 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-09 01:41 -0500
Re: Can science prove time is not real? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-03-07 20:18 -0600
Re: Can science prove time is not real? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-03-08 10:33 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Bill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co> - 2023-03-09 00:04 +0000
Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-08 22:23 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Bill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co> - 2023-03-09 15:31 +0000
Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-09 11:51 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-09 15:33 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 11:48 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Bill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co> - 2023-03-09 23:11 +0000
Re: Can science prove time is not real? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-03-09 15:54 -0800
Re: Can science prove time is not real? Bill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co> - 2023-03-10 00:41 +0000
Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-07 01:09 -0800
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| From | "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-06 10:52 -0800 |
| Subject | Can science prove time is not real? |
| Message-ID | <ecf53248-c8e7-4a12-90e9-1be48e8bed7cn@googlegroups.com> |
why are you using a clock? Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-06 11:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <64064422.3FDB@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #603147 |
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > why are you using a clock? > > Mitchell Raemsch Okay, help me with my Time problem... If you got one twin on earth.. and his watch sez 12:00pm... and the other twin is on the Moon...and his watch sez 1200:pm and he walks to the otherside of the moom.. What time does his watch sez? I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter what time zone he is on the Moon? I mean, is it still the same time whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-03-07 14:02 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <k6nnqfFen5eU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #603152 |
On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: > mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> why are you using a clock? >> >> Mitchell Raemsch > > > Okay, help me with my Time problem... > > If you got one twin on earth.. > and his watch sez 12:00pm... > and the other twin is on > the Moon...and his watch > sez 1200:pm > > and he walks to > the otherside > of the moom.. > What time does his watch sez? > > I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter > what time zone he is on the Moon? > > I mean, is it still the same time > whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? > > Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? > > > > > Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of some parts of China). Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns the base. Sylvia.
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-06 22:27 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k6nsosFh524U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #603178 |
On 3/6/2023 9:02 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: >> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> why are you using a clock? >>> >>> Mitchell Raemsch >> >> >> Okay, help me with my Time problem... >> >> If you got one twin on earth.. >> and his watch sez 12:00pm... >> and the other twin is on >> the Moon...and his watch >> sez 1200:pm >> >> and he walks to >> the otherside >> of the moom.. >> What time does his watch sez? >> >> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter >> what time zone he is on the Moon? >> >> I mean, is it still the same time >> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? >> >> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? >> >> >> >> >> > > Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock > shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle > regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of > some parts of China). > > Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense > will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set > their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity > owns the base. > > Sylvia. "Starmaker" does not comprehend the difference of elapsed time between events and the human usage of locally assigned time. Most of the questions he raises in these newsgroups are based on common word applications without any ability to appreciate the essential nuances implicit in specific usages. It gets even worse because he apparently cannot fathom the specifics associated with words i.e. "two," "to," and "too." One can easily see his consistent use of the wrong version of words in his postings. Initially I thought he was just trying to be funny but eventually the true nature of his handicap in these regards became apparent. As a result I've stopped reading his input because he clearly intends to avoid achieving any progress while clearly demonstrating his intention to remain the clown in the back of a classroom while also clearly often demonstrating an inebriated state when posting. Where it comes to wasting my time I have much better ways to achieve that.
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| From | Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> |
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| Date | 2023-03-06 20:16 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <pdqidj-vtjc.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> |
| In reply to | #603178 |
In sci.physics Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote: > On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: >> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> why are you using a clock? >>> >>> Mitchell Raemsch >> >> >> Okay, help me with my Time problem... >> >> If you got one twin on earth.. >> and his watch sez 12:00pm... >> and the other twin is on >> the Moon...and his watch >> sez 1200:pm >> >> and he walks to >> the otherside >> of the moom.. >> What time does his watch sez? >> >> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter >> what time zone he is on the Moon? >> >> I mean, is it still the same time >> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? >> >> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? >> >> >> >> >> > > Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock > shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle > regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of > some parts of China). > > Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense > will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set > their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity > owns the base. > > Sylvia. > That is what has been done to date, but see this: https://scitechdaily.com/what-time-is-it-on-the-moon-advancing-a-new-lunar-timezone/
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-03-07 15:48 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <k6nu17Fen5eU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #603183 |
On 07-Mar-23 3:16 pm, Jim Pennino wrote: > In sci.physics Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote: >> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> why are you using a clock? >>>> >>>> Mitchell Raemsch >>> >>> >>> Okay, help me with my Time problem... >>> >>> If you got one twin on earth.. >>> and his watch sez 12:00pm... >>> and the other twin is on >>> the Moon...and his watch >>> sez 1200:pm >>> >>> and he walks to >>> the otherside >>> of the moom.. >>> What time does his watch sez? >>> >>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter >>> what time zone he is on the Moon? >>> >>> I mean, is it still the same time >>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? >>> >>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock >> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle >> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of >> some parts of China). >> >> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense >> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set >> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity >> owns the base. >> >> Sylvia. >> > > That is what has been done to date, but see this: > > https://scitechdaily.com/what-time-is-it-on-the-moon-advancing-a-new-lunar-timezone/ > > A common reference time is clearly useful, but at this point it probably makes more sense to use Earth based atomic time. But even then, there's no reason for wall clocks on the Moon to track that exactly. They'll probably still be based on the local time of the terrestrial owner. Sylvia.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-06 23:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <24a357d0-dc8d-4f03-b877-58114b133607n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #603184 |
On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 05:48:43 UTC+1, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 07-Mar-23 3:16 pm, Jim Pennino wrote: > > In sci.physics Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote: > >> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> why are you using a clock? > >>>> > >>>> Mitchell Raemsch > >>> > >>> > >>> Okay, help me with my Time problem... > >>> > >>> If you got one twin on earth.. > >>> and his watch sez 12:00pm... > >>> and the other twin is on > >>> the Moon...and his watch > >>> sez 1200:pm > >>> > >>> and he walks to > >>> the otherside > >>> of the moom.. > >>> What time does his watch sez? > >>> > >>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter > >>> what time zone he is on the Moon? > >>> > >>> I mean, is it still the same time > >>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? > >>> > >>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock > >> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle > >> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of > >> some parts of China). > >> > >> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense > >> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set > >> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity > >> owns the base. > >> > >> Sylvia. > >> > > > > That is what has been done to date, but see this: > > > > https://scitechdaily.com/what-time-is-it-on-the-moon-advancing-a-new-lunar-timezone/ > > > > > A common reference time is clearly useful, but at this point it probably > makes more sense to use Earth based atomic time. But even then, there's > no reason for wall clocks on the Moon to track that exactly. They'll > probably still be based on the local time of the terrestrial owner. For sure no serious clocks will ever rely on the nonsense invented by Your insane gurus.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2023-03-07 11:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1q77w7w.1gueqyn1crgmm5N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #603178 |
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote: > On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: > > mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> why are you using a clock? > >> > >> Mitchell Raemsch > > > > > > Okay, help me with my Time problem... > > > > If you got one twin on earth.. > > and his watch sez 12:00pm... > > and the other twin is on > > the Moon...and his watch > > sez 1200:pm > > > > and he walks to > > the otherside > > of the moom.. > > What time does his watch sez? > > > > I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter > > what time zone he is on the Moon? > > > > I mean, is it still the same time > > whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? > > > > Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? > > > > > > > > > > > > Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock > shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle > regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of > some parts of China). > > Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense > will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set > their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns > the base. As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica. Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter. Nothing deep there, just practicalities, Jan
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-07 02:29 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d7a6df9a-a2b3-443c-8ab8-2ed60ad299fen@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #603210 |
On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 11:14:35 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote: > As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica. > Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter. > Nothing deep there, just practicalities, No Lorentz transforms, no "Laws of Nature" mumbo jumbo, just clocks and time.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-08 17:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9c06556f-7661-4ea2-8641-6d2a8e5f1e23n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #603211 |
On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:29:38 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 11:14:35 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica. > > Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter. > > Nothing deep there, just practicalities, > No Lorentz transforms, no "Laws of Nature" mumbo > jumbo, just clocks and time. Yes, time is absolute and universal. Time is real because change is real. There is no block universe with the past present and future existing at once because there is only three dimensions. So, no science cannot prove time is real. Relativity is pseudo-scientific nonsense.
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| From | Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-08 20:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <3ec742ae-721d-498e-b8e4-fa9fe38d5c81n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #603383 |
On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 5:40:24 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:29:38 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 11:14:35 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > > As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica. > > > Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter. > > > Nothing deep there, just practicalities, > > No Lorentz transforms, no "Laws of Nature" mumbo > > jumbo, just clocks and time. > Yes, time is absolute and universal. Time is real because change is real. There is no block universe with the past present and future existing at once because there is only three dimensions. So, no science cannot prove time is real. Relativity is pseudo-scientific nonsense. CORRECTION: Of course, I meant "no science cannot prove time is NOT real" as you can tell. Can I blame my grammar checker? Time is distance divided by speed as in 2 hours= 60 miles/ 30 mph. A correct definition of time as applicable to physics is necessary to avoid relativity errors. Time dilation is ad hoc nonsense.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-08 23:53 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <64099071.65C5@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #603390 |
Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 5:40:24 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:29:38 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 11:14:35 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > > > > As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica. > > > > Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter. > > > > Nothing deep there, just practicalities, > > > No Lorentz transforms, no "Laws of Nature" mumbo > > > jumbo, just clocks and time. > > Yes, time is absolute and universal. Time is real because change is real. There is no block universe with the past present and future existing at once because there is only three dimensions. So, no science cannot prove time is real. Relativity is pseudo-scientific nonsense. > CORRECTION: Of course, I meant "no science cannot prove time is NOT real" as you can tell. Can I blame my grammar checker? Time is distance divided by speed as in 2 hours= 60 miles/ 30 mph. A correct definition of time as applicable to physics is necessary to avoid relativity errors. Time dilation is ad hoc nonsense. You can blame your iphone checker. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-09 11:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <640A3A7B.2CBA@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #603410 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 5:40:24 PM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:29:38 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 11:14:35 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > > > > > > As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica. > > > > > Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter. > > > > > Nothing deep there, just practicalities, > > > > No Lorentz transforms, no "Laws of Nature" mumbo > > > > jumbo, just clocks and time. > > > Yes, time is absolute and universal. Time is real because change is real. There is no block universe with the past present and future existing at once because there is only three dimensions. So, no science cannot prove time is real. Relativity is pseudo-scientific nonsense. > > CORRECTION: Of course, I meant "no science cannot prove time is NOT real" as you can tell. Can I blame my grammar checker? Time is distance divided by speed as in 2 hours= 60 miles/ 30 mph. A correct definition of time as applicable to physics is necessary to avoid relativity errors. Time dilation is ad hoc nonsense. > > You can blame your iphone checker. > pretending to be a anti-einstein, dats a good one.. in your excitement in getting back you make mistakes... but you're still...Odd. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-07 11:37 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6407926D.604@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #603210 |
whodat wrote: > > On 3/7/2023 9:53 AM, Timothy Golden wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:14:38 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >> Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote: > >> > >>> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> why are you using a clock? > >>>>> > >>>>> Mitchell Raemsch > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Okay, help me with my Time problem... > >>>> > >>>> If you got one twin on earth.. > >>>> and his watch sez 12:00pm... > >>>> and the other twin is on > >>>> the Moon...and his watch > >>>> sez 1200:pm > >>>> > >>>> and he walks to > >>>> the otherside > >>>> of the moom.. > >>>> What time does his watch sez? > >>>> > >>>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter > >>>> what time zone he is on the Moon? > >>>> > >>>> I mean, is it still the same time > >>>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? > >>>> > >>>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock > >>> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle > >>> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of > >>> some parts of China). > >>> > >>> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense > >>> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set > >>> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns > >>> the base. > >> As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica. > >> Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter. > >> Nothing deep there, just practicalities, > >> > >> Jan > > > > Isn't moon time about 28 Earth days per moon day? That's 672 Earth hours per moon day. > > Got to mod the dial on your Earth watch a bit. Might need an extra hand too. > > Probably better just to use unix time. > > You know, this the one instance where scifi could set the newsgroup > reader's mind at ease. Over the years the various TV series have made it > clear that wherever the "mission" was in space an arbitrary 24 hour > artificial day could be successfully established since that is what the > human being evolved in and an environment we successfully survived in > from a protohuman state right through to and including homo sapiens. > > Attempting to relegate some sort of a day to local conditions is a > fools errand. Consider the success of the human being to live north of > the arctic circle where extremely long periods are of effective daylight > and similarly long nights. > > "Starmaker" sent those willing to pay attention to him on this fools > errand. Shame on those who fell for it. Please ignore him in the future. So your M.O. is..."Do as I say, not as I do.' ...hypocrite. tsk, tsk. shame on you. You're evil. a bad bad boy. Despicable! -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-07 12:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <550dff1d-7599-43c6-b7c8-a60c1fc583b2n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #603256 |
On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 11:37:18 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > whodat wrote: > > > > On 3/7/2023 9:53 AM, Timothy Golden wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:14:38 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > >> Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote: > > >> > > >>> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> why are you using a clock? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Mitchell Raemsch > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Okay, help me with my Time problem... > > >>>> > > >>>> If you got one twin on earth.. > > >>>> and his watch sez 12:00pm... > > >>>> and the other twin is on > > >>>> the Moon...and his watch > > >>>> sez 1200:pm > > >>>> > > >>>> and he walks to > > >>>> the otherside > > >>>> of the moom.. > > >>>> What time does his watch sez? > > >>>> > > >>>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter > > >>>> what time zone he is on the Moon? > > >>>> > > >>>> I mean, is it still the same time > > >>>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? > > >>>> > > >>>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock > > >>> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle > > >>> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of > > >>> some parts of China). > > >>> > > >>> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense > > >>> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set > > >>> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns > > >>> the base. > > >> As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica. > > >> Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter. > > >> Nothing deep there, just practicalities, > > >> > > >> Jan > > > > > > Isn't moon time about 28 Earth days per moon day? That's 672 Earth hours per moon day. > > > Got to mod the dial on your Earth watch a bit. Might need an extra hand too. > > > Probably better just to use unix time. > > > > You know, this the one instance where scifi could set the newsgroup > > reader's mind at ease. Over the years the various TV series have made it > > clear that wherever the "mission" was in space an arbitrary 24 hour > > artificial day could be successfully established since that is what the > > human being evolved in and an environment we successfully survived in > > from a protohuman state right through to and including homo sapiens. > > > > Attempting to relegate some sort of a day to local conditions is a > > fools errand. Consider the success of the human being to live north of > > the arctic circle where extremely long periods are of effective daylight > > and similarly long nights. > > > > "Starmaker" sent those willing to pay attention to him on this fools > > errand. Shame on those who fell for it. Please ignore him in the future. > > > So your M.O. is..."Do as I say, not as I do.' ...hypocrite. tsk, tsk. shame on you. You're evil. a bad bad boy. Despicable! > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. Science has its clock. What is hyper fine transition? How do we watch one atom? Why does an atomic clock need more than one atom?
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| From | Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-03-09 01:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tubv28$1b2vo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #603258 |
On 3/7/2023 3:25 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > What is hyper fine transition? Do you need help using Google, Roy? > How do we watch one atom? > Why does an atomic clock need > more than one atom? Looks like you do.
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-07 20:18 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k6q9kfFsmnuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #603256 |
On 3/7/2023 1:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > whodat wrote: >> >> On 3/7/2023 9:53 AM, Timothy Golden wrote: >>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:14:38 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>>> Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> why are you using a clock? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay, help me with my Time problem... >>>>>> >>>>>> If you got one twin on earth.. >>>>>> and his watch sez 12:00pm... >>>>>> and the other twin is on >>>>>> the Moon...and his watch >>>>>> sez 1200:pm >>>>>> >>>>>> and he walks to >>>>>> the otherside >>>>>> of the moom.. >>>>>> What time does his watch sez? >>>>>> >>>>>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter >>>>>> what time zone he is on the Moon? >>>>>> >>>>>> I mean, is it still the same time >>>>>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock >>>>> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle >>>>> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of >>>>> some parts of China). >>>>> >>>>> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense >>>>> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set >>>>> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns >>>>> the base. >>>> As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica. >>>> Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter. >>>> Nothing deep there, just practicalities, >>>> >>>> Jan >>> >>> Isn't moon time about 28 Earth days per moon day? That's 672 Earth hours per moon day. >>> Got to mod the dial on your Earth watch a bit. Might need an extra hand too. >>> Probably better just to use unix time. >> >> You know, this the one instance where scifi could set the newsgroup >> reader's mind at ease. Over the years the various TV series have made it >> clear that wherever the "mission" was in space an arbitrary 24 hour >> artificial day could be successfully established since that is what the >> human being evolved in and an environment we successfully survived in >> from a protohuman state right through to and including homo sapiens. >> >> Attempting to relegate some sort of a day to local conditions is a >> fools errand. Consider the success of the human being to live north of >> the arctic circle where extremely long periods are of effective daylight >> and similarly long nights. >> >> "Starmaker" sent those willing to pay attention to him on this fools >> errand. Shame on those who fell for it. Please ignore him in the future. > > > So your M.O. is..."Do as I say, not as I do.' ...hypocrite. tsk, tsk. shame on you. You're evil. a bad bad boy. Despicable! ibid.
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| From | "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-08 10:33 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f6066d01-98ec-4fef-9c08-7d07fa44eacdn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #603292 |
On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 6:19:00 PM UTC-8, whodat wrote: > On 3/7/2023 1:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > whodat wrote: > >> > >> On 3/7/2023 9:53 AM, Timothy Golden wrote: > >>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:14:38 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote: > >>>> Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> why are you using a clock? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Okay, help me with my Time problem... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you got one twin on earth.. > >>>>>> and his watch sez 12:00pm... > >>>>>> and the other twin is on > >>>>>> the Moon...and his watch > >>>>>> sez 1200:pm > >>>>>> > >>>>>> and he walks to > >>>>>> the otherside > >>>>>> of the moom.. > >>>>>> What time does his watch sez? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter > >>>>>> what time zone he is on the Moon? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I mean, is it still the same time > >>>>>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock > >>>>> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle > >>>>> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of > >>>>> some parts of China). > >>>>> > >>>>> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense > >>>>> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set > >>>>> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns > >>>>> the base. > >>>> As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica. > >>>> Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter. > >>>> Nothing deep there, just practicalities, > >>>> > >>>> Jan > >>> > >>> Isn't moon time about 28 Earth days per moon day? That's 672 Earth hours per moon day. > >>> Got to mod the dial on your Earth watch a bit. Might need an extra hand too. > >>> Probably better just to use unix time. > >> > >> You know, this the one instance where scifi could set the newsgroup > >> reader's mind at ease. Over the years the various TV series have made it > >> clear that wherever the "mission" was in space an arbitrary 24 hour > >> artificial day could be successfully established since that is what the > >> human being evolved in and an environment we successfully survived in > >> from a protohuman state right through to and including homo sapiens. > >> > >> Attempting to relegate some sort of a day to local conditions is a > >> fools errand. Consider the success of the human being to live north of > >> the arctic circle where extremely long periods are of effective daylight > >> and similarly long nights. > >> > >> "Starmaker" sent those willing to pay attention to him on this fools > >> errand. Shame on those who fell for it. Please ignore him in the future. > > > > > > So your M.O. is..."Do as I say, not as I do.' ...hypocrite. tsk, tsk. shame on you. You're evil. a bad bad boy. Despicable! > ibid. What can count 9 billion times a second? It is known that the atomic clock drifts instead... Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | Bill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co> |
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| Date | 2023-03-09 00:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tub7pl$14vkd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #603346 |
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > What can count 9 billion times a second? > It is known that the atomic clock drifts instead... are you *_the_first_lady_* of the united states, by chance?? amazing, what happens when you are not hanging these terrorist nazis immediately. Polish president claims Nord Stream blasts were ‘beneficial’ for Europe *_Andrzej_Duda_* has claimed https://%72%74.com/news/572660-poland-nord-stream-sabotage-beneficial/ Duda also called for Ukrainian pilots to be trained to operate the US-made F-16 fighter jets, arguing that Kiev’s Armed Forces would like to be “up to NATO standards” anyway. “The training of Ukrainian pilots is important and it is quite necessary,” he said.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-08 22:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <64097B7D.31DF@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #603378 |
Bill Monti Pavoni wrote: > > mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > > What can count 9 billion times a second? > > It is known that the atomic clock drifts instead... > > are you *_the_first_lady_* of the united states, by chance?? > > amazing, what happens when you are not hanging these terrorist nazis > immediately. > > Polish president claims Nord Stream blasts were ‘beneficial’ for Europe > *_Andrzej_Duda_* has claimed > https://%72%74.com/news/572660-poland-nord-stream-sabotage-beneficial/ > Duda also called for Ukrainian pilots to be trained to operate the US-made > F-16 fighter jets, arguing that Kiev’s Armed Forces would like to be “up > to NATO standards†anyway. “The training of Ukrainian pilots is important > and it is quite necessary,†he said. Come on already, every kid in USA can fly F-16 fighter jets Microsoft Flight Simulator...the same that is being used to train Ukraine soliders on flight simulators. F-16 fighter jets Flight Simulators is the closest a Ukraine guy will ever get to a F-16 fighter jets. The question is..are the Ukrainians using an Xbox or Windows PC? The only good commie is A DEAD COMMIE!!!! I love the smell of dead commies in the morning...it smells like...victory. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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